View Full Version : Oakland's stable of RB's
BroncoMan4ever
06-02-2008, 06:42 PM
With the addition of McFadden to an already pretty deep stable of RB's in Oakland i got to wondering about possible cuts from their roster, and Michael Bush caught my attention.
Had Bush been 100% by last seasons draft he would have been picked ahead of AP i believe or at least in the 1st round.
Of all the RB's that have come out in the last 3 or so years, he and Jonathon Stewart were the 2 i would have loved Denver to get.
Bush is a tank, 6'2" 250lbs of ripped muscle. Given a real shot and a decent offense to play on and this guy is a definite pro bowler.
Now figure Oakland will probably keep 3 RB's on their roster for this upcoming season
1)McFadden
2)Fargas
3)?
Echemandu, Adimchinobi, Justin Griffith, Lamont Jordan and Michael Bush will compete for the 3rd and last spot.
If Oakland keeps any of those guys over Bush, Denver had better have his agent on speed dial about 10 seconds after he is cut, because this guy would give us another awesome weapon that would take a ton of pressure off of Cutler, and also give us a weapon that can carry the ball 20+ times a game, and allow Young and Hall to be used as the change of pace backs they are.
Blueflame
06-02-2008, 06:46 PM
With the addition of McFadden to an already pretty deep stable of RB's in Oakland i got to wondering about possible cuts from their roster, and Michael Bush caught my attention.
Had Bush been 100% by last seasons draft he would have been picked ahead of AP i believe or at least in the 1st round.
Of all the RB's that have come out in the last 3 or so years, he and Jonathon Stewart were the 2 i would have loved Denver to get.
Bush is a tank, 6'2" 250lbs of ripped muscle. Given a real shot and a decent offense to play on and this guy is a definite pro bowler.
Now figure Oakland will probably keep 3 RB's on their roster for this upcoming season
1)McFadden
2)Fargas
3)?
Echemandu, Adimchinobi, Justin Griffith, Lamont Jordan and Michael Bush will compete for the 3rd and last spot.
If Oakland keeps any of those guys over Bush, Denver had better have his agent on speed dial about 10 seconds after he is cut, because this guy would give us another awesome weapon that would take a ton of pressure off of Cutler, and also give us a weapon that can carry the ball 20+ times a game, and allow Young and Hall to be used as the change of pace backs they are.
Many Fadefans are wondering why Lamont Jordan is even still on their roster. I'd be very surprised if they even considered releasing Bush.
Atwater His Ass
06-02-2008, 06:49 PM
Greasebag will do whatever he can in his power to prevent cutting guys if he thinks Denver wants to sign them. Personally, I think we should show interested in every single one of them wether we are or not, just in an attempt to **** with greasy and to what extremes he's willing to go to deny us.
BroncoMan4ever
06-02-2008, 06:50 PM
I am not thinking too much that they'd keep Jordan over Bush, i am more curious of them keeping Griffith over Bush
Tombstone RJ
06-02-2008, 06:53 PM
If Bush is so great, the faiders will keep him and cut Jordon.
elsid13
06-02-2008, 06:58 PM
Who does the Zombie owe more money to? That who he is keeping.
Maximus
06-02-2008, 07:10 PM
Griffin plays Fullback along with Oren O'Neal Bush Fargas and McFadden will be on the roster... Jordan will be released at some point in time. Long story short Bush has looked great in OTA's and mini's Jordan is toast soon!
SoDak Bronco
06-02-2008, 07:38 PM
they still don't have an o-line...this is a pretty girl with no brains and a STD....looks good, but man is she going to screw you over.
Maximus
06-02-2008, 07:42 PM
they still don't have an o-line...this is a pretty girl with no brains and a STD....looks good, but man is she going to screw you over.
No offensive line and we finished 6th in rushing... I'll take that. The truth is you're hoping and praying that the line doesn't continue to improve.
DenverBrit
06-02-2008, 07:59 PM
No offensive line and we finished 6th in rushing... I'll take that. The truth is you're hoping and praying that the line doesn't continue to improve.
Playing 4 games against KC and Denver last year padded that stat. ;D
Maximus
06-02-2008, 08:03 PM
Playing 4 games against KC and Denver last year padded that stat. ;D
Touche :D However, the line did improve and we do have one of the best coaches for the ZBS. Adding McFadden will only improve the running game.
epicSocialism4tw
06-02-2008, 10:58 PM
Oakland has much more talent at the position than Denver does...and that's why its all the more hilarious that we will still outgain them on the ground again this season.
SoDak Bronco
06-02-2008, 11:36 PM
i'm glad you guys got McFadden and not long from michigan...
Arkie
06-02-2008, 11:49 PM
i'm glad you guys got McFadden and not long from michigan...
Be careful what you wish for. McFadden was the best college player.
watermock
06-03-2008, 12:22 AM
I'm not a big McFadden fan. I think Felix the cat and particularly Hillis, because of his versatility ar better pick as far as where they were selected.
I dont see McFaddens running style lasting long...unless he's a new Dickerson or AP. So he can play the wid hog o...Felix and Hillis games are better suited for the NFL. Also, McFadden doesnt kmow how to stay out of trouble.
Some of McFaddens softness was due to his ribs, but still...till he took control of the LSU game, he didnt impress me that much.
Rausch 2.0
06-03-2008, 12:25 AM
I wouldn't wet my trousers just yet. For as much talent as the Fade have they've essentially got 2 rookies and Jordan...
Rausch 2.0
06-03-2008, 12:27 AM
McFadden was the best college player.
...
Ugly Duck
06-03-2008, 12:29 AM
they still don't have an o-line...
One of several over-simplistic takes that are easy to repeat but maybe should be thought out a bit more. Oakland's O-line sucks at pass blocking, but made great strides on the run side after hiring line coach Tom Cable from Atlanta. The O-line cut sacks allowed in half (still allowed too many), but made marked improvement in run blocking (from #29 to #6).
Another over-simplistic assessment is that Oakland is so stacked at RB that it was stoopid to draft McFadden. Last year's success on the ground was not so much that our RBs are so good, its that our O-line was run-blocking well. Jordan was unreliable due recurring back spasms. Fargas has a running style that lends itself to injury as evidenced by his history - missed the last part of the season with yet another injury don'tcha know. Its unknown that Bush can come back from having his leg bone Theisman-ed in half.
Given the shakey injury status of Jordan, Bush & Fargas.... it wasn't stoopid to shore up the situation by drafting McFadden. Some pundits say Dorsey was the best player in the draft, others say McFadden. Oh hell ya we cudda used Dorsey... problem was, our RB situation was unreliable. Not nearly as stacked as consensus opinion would lead one to believe.
Rausch 2.0
06-03-2008, 12:43 AM
Some pundits say Dorsey was the best player in the draft, others say McFadden. Oh hell ya we cudda used Dorsey... problem was, our RB situation was unreliable. Not nearly as stacked as consensus opinion would lead one to believe.
Exactly.
Some say McFadden was the most productive and perhaps talented.
Others say Dorsey, or that he's the best NFL prospect out of the gate.
Fact is it's all irrelevant until both have a year or two behind them. Look back to how everyone thought it was stupid to take LJ when KC had Priest coming back...
Popps
06-03-2008, 03:13 AM
We should have left woman-beater Pittman alone and waited for Jordan to be released. He'd be a nice fit with us in a reserve role. Instead, we get to replace one ass-bag with another.
We should have left woman-beater Pittman alone and waited for Jordan to be released. He'd be a nice fit with us in a reserve role. Instead, we get to replace one ass-bag with another.
I don't think the release of Henry signifies that Pittman has a job locked up by any means.
I wouldn't be surprised if we go with an RB stable of Young, Torain, Hall, Hillis, and Sapp. It depends on what the coaches think of Hillis' and Sapp's ability to step in at HB if needed, and I think both will get a positive answer to that question.
Pittman is an older guy on a one year deal, he's by no means a lock for our regular season roster.
As for the Raiders RB corps, we'll see how it all pans out. You would think the bigger power back in Bush would get the job over Jordan, but Al Davis is prone to a whole lot of stupid. Either way their offense isn't going to get off the ground well until they get some legitimate OLs. I know, 6th in rush offense last year, ZBS, blah blah. They have a roster full of busts, scrubs, and retreads. Carlisle and Green are two former Broncos who couldn't hang on to (former) or even reach (the later) a starting job for us, and both are getting older. Harris got Alex Smith killed basically every Sunday. Gallery might seriously be their best OL and he's an average OG at best. They'll run a solid ZBS as long as the current bunch of guys stay healthy and they don't need to swap in guys who haven't developed chemistry with the starting unit, but they'll still suck at pass blocking and so teams can stack the line and rush all damn day, knowing that their DBs don't need to contain for very long to end the down.
Raider Bill
06-03-2008, 08:11 AM
but Al Davis is prone to a whole lot of stupid.
You mean something like releasing a guy signed just last year?
TheReverend
06-03-2008, 08:27 AM
You mean something like releasing a guy signed just last year?
I think he means doing something like... I dunno... say, spending a 4th overall pick on someone into your strongest and deepest position when there are many, MANY glaring weaknesses present to address.
cmhargrove
06-03-2008, 08:38 AM
They won't release Bush, keep dreaming...
We have the talent in our run game, that is not in question. The question is, will we remain healthy (in the backfield and on the O-line)?
We really don't need another tailback if the ones we have stay relatively healthy. I don't understand why people are so worried here.
Oh well, I guess people will be pretty excited again when they see our guys run in the preseason. The competition should elevate everyone's game.
Two dark horses everyone is looking past here - Andre Hall and Cecil Sapp. I don't expect either one to be "the starter," but I believe both these guys can really contribute to the team. Hall had a good YPC average, and showed us his speed against the Titans. The reports are so far that Cecil has really bulked up, and you know the coaches have always liked him. We have the firepower in the backfield - how's the O-line????
Raider Bill
06-03-2008, 11:16 AM
I think he means doing something like... I dunno... say, spending a 4th overall pick on someone into your strongest and deepest position when there are many, MANY glaring weaknesses present to address.
Best player available.
TheReverend
06-03-2008, 11:27 AM
Best player available.
If you really believe that, I'd consider checking into rehab asap.
bronco militia
06-03-2008, 11:33 AM
they're going to need all those RB's with that fat kid tossing the rock to Javon "ouch my knee hurts" walker
Mountain Bronco
06-03-2008, 11:34 AM
I have said this all along and believe it although I get slammed for saying it, but I bet McFadden does not have a great NFL career. His legs are so skinny and lanky and he runs so up right. Just don't see it translating into a great NFL career.
elsid13
06-03-2008, 02:15 PM
I have said this all along and believe it although I get slammed for saying it, but I bet McFadden does not have a great NFL career. His legs are so skinny and lanky and he runs so up right. Just don't see it translating into a great NFL career.
You are not the only one that think he might struggle in translating his game to the NFL. He really needs to learn to be grind out the tough yards, and understand he not going to beat folks to the outside.
Flex Gunmetal
06-03-2008, 02:50 PM
You mean something like releasing a guy signed just last year?
More like owning an absolutely terrible joke of a football team that hasn't produced a winning season in 6 years.
Ugly Duck
06-03-2008, 02:54 PM
spending a 4th overall pick on someone into your strongest and deepest position
Fargas, Jordan and Bush all have injury problems. Gotta have at least one (1) healthy starter.
Ugly Duck
06-03-2008, 03:31 PM
that fat kid tossing the rock
Maybe not as fat as you wish he was....
http://www.sbreport.net/OTA/JaMarcus_Russell.jpg
bronco militia
06-03-2008, 03:34 PM
Maybe not as fat as you wish he was....
http://www.sbreport.net/OTA/JaMarcus_Russell.jpg
your pic obviously photoshopped !Booya!
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7670/78881486lj8.png
Ugly Duck
06-03-2008, 05:01 PM
your pic obviously photoshopped !Booya!
Read it & weep, me bucko!
http://www.sbreport.net/OTA/JaMarcus_Russell.jpg
Doggcow
06-03-2008, 05:08 PM
Hahahahaha Broncos Militia, Fat Kid Russel always owns.
Oh and Raider Bill, Glenn McDorseystein was still available, and arguably the best pick in the draft.
Ugly Duck
06-03-2008, 07:19 PM
Hahahahaha Fat Kid Russel always owns.
Until you see that he's actually not fat....
http://www.sbreport.net/OTA/JaMarcus_Russell.jpg
Los Broncos
06-03-2008, 07:23 PM
Oakland cant get any worse, how many times can they pick in the top ten and play so bad.
Tombstone RJ
06-03-2008, 07:42 PM
One of several over-simplistic takes that are easy to repeat but maybe should be thought out a bit more. Oakland's O-line sucks at pass blocking, but made great strides on the run side after hiring line coach Tom Cable from Atlanta. The O-line cut sacks allowed in half (still allowed too many), but made marked improvement in run blocking (from #29 to #6).
Another over-simplistic assessment is that Oakland is so stacked at RB that it was stoopid to draft McFadden. Last year's success on the ground was not so much that our RBs are so good, its that our O-line was run-blocking well. Jordan was unreliable due recurring back spasms. Fargas has a running style that lends itself to injury as evidenced by his history - missed the last part of the season with yet another injury don'tcha know. Its unknown that Bush can come back from having his leg bone Theisman-ed in half.
Given the shakey injury status of Jordan, Bush & Fargas.... it wasn't stoopid to shore up the situation by drafting McFadden. Some pundits say Dorsey was the best player in the draft, others say McFadden. Oh hell ya we cudda used Dorsey... problem was, our RB situation was unreliable. Not nearly as stacked as consensus opinion would lead one to believe.
You guys still had Dominic Rhodes on the team, before you drafted McFadden. Fact is, the crypt keeper likes the sexy draft picks and McFadden gave the old man a boner. The Faid should have drafted Dorsey, end of story.
Ugly Duck
06-03-2008, 07:52 PM
You guys still had Dominic Rhodes on the team, before you drafted McFadden. The Faid should have drafted Dorsey, end of story.
Nope... Here's the end of the story..... When we traded Fabian Washington to Baltimore we took a $1.093,750 cap hit, putting us over the salary cap. Rhodes only had one (1) year left on his contract & asked to be released if he was not going to be the #1 RB. He was not going to be the #1. Rhodes had a $1.75 million salary, enough to put us back under the cap once he was released. His release made sense for both the team and the player. But don't let the facts disuade you from believing that Oakland stoopidly stumbled & bumbled into an idiotic horrific mistake....
Tombstone RJ
06-03-2008, 08:11 PM
Nope... Here's the end of the story..... When we traded Fabian Washington to Baltimore we took a $1.093,750 cap hit, putting us over the salary cap. Rhodes only had one (1) year left on his contract & asked to be released if he was not going to be the #1 RB. He was not going to be the #1. Rhodes had a $1.75 million salary, enough to put us back under the cap once he was released. His release made sense for both the team and the player. But don't let the facts disuade you from believing that Oakland stoopidly stumbled & bumbled into an idiotic horrific mistake....
Wow, justifying letting Rhodes go because of the freaking salary cap? You know and I know that the crypt keeper is spending like crazy to get that last lombardi before he bites the dust.
You just keep on believing that crap, if it makes you sleep better at night.:spit:
Your defense sucks, period. Dorsey should have been the pick. But, don't let the facts disuade you from believing that... yadda, yadda, yadda.
Inkana7
06-03-2008, 08:29 PM
Touche :D However, the line did improve and we do have one of the best coaches for the ZBS. Adding McFadden will only improve the running game.
McFadden is anything BUT a cutback runner.
BroncosinDC
06-03-2008, 08:51 PM
Until you see that he's actually not fat....
Janikowski is fat enough for the entire team
Raider Bill
06-03-2008, 09:30 PM
If you really believe that, I'd consider checking into rehab asap.
I bet you can't find me a single 2008 prospect ranking that has McFadden ranked lower than 4th. I've looked and it doesnt exist, son.
Inkana7
06-03-2008, 09:34 PM
I bet you can't find me a single 2008 prospect ranking that has McFadden ranked lower than 4th. I've looked and it doesnt exist, son.
McFadden plays defense?!?! Wow! He IS good!
Raider Bill
06-03-2008, 09:39 PM
I'll type slow for the dopey donkey fan... B E S T P L A Y E R A V A I L A B L E .
azbroncfan
06-03-2008, 09:41 PM
One of several over-simplistic takes that are easy to repeat but maybe should be thought out a bit more. Oakland's O-line sucks at pass blocking, but made great strides on the run side after hiring line coach Tom Cable from Atlanta. The O-line cut sacks allowed in half (still allowed too many), but made marked improvement in run blocking (from #29 to #6).
Another over-simplistic assessment is that Oakland is so stacked at RB that it was stoopid to draft McFadden. Last year's success on the ground was not so much that our RBs are so good, its that our O-line was run-blocking well. Jordan was unreliable due recurring back spasms. Fargas has a running style that lends itself to injury as evidenced by his history - missed the last part of the season with yet another injury don'tcha know. Its unknown that Bush can come back from having his leg bone Theisman-ed in half.
Given the shakey injury status of Jordan, Bush & Fargas.... it wasn't stoopid to shore up the situation by drafting McFadden. Some pundits say Dorsey was the best player in the draft, others say McFadden. Oh hell ya we cudda used Dorsey... problem was, our RB situation was unreliable. Not nearly as stacked as consensus opinion would lead one to believe.
But next year you will have a chance to draft a RB high but there is no guarantee that there will be a DT with the talent of Dorsey. Fade had good enough RB's to take Dorsey and then get a good back in the 2nd if they wanted. Keep making excuses for dirt bag AL's boner for McFadden.
Ugly Duck
06-03-2008, 09:50 PM
Wow, justifying letting Rhodes go because of the freaking salary cap?
I think you missed it... Rhodes & Al had an agreement that he would be released in his last year of the contract if he was not going to be the #1 RB. Its really not that complicated. That agreement was honored, salary cap advantages to the team were secondary. Its OK, though... I understand that its more fun to think the Raiders are fat & stoopid. We're rival AFCW fans.... thats the way we are!
Raider Bill
06-03-2008, 09:52 PM
LOL Where the heck was Glen Dorsey when McFadden was breaking a foot off in LSU's ass (3 TD's 200 yards)?
azbroncfan
06-03-2008, 10:15 PM
I think you missed it... Rhodes & Al had an agreement that he would be released in his last year of the contract if he was not going to be the #1 RB. Its really not that complicated. That agreement was honored, salary cap advantages to the team were secondary. Its OK, though... I understand that its more fun to think the Raiders are fat & stoopid. We're rival AFCW fans.... thats the way we are!
I don't think releasing Rhodes is that big of a deal because he isn't that good and was a product of teams fearing Manning and the WR's. Every RB that Indy has plugged in has been effective.
Ugly Duck
06-03-2008, 10:18 PM
LOL Where the heck was Glen Dorsey when McFadden was breaking a foot off in LSU's ass (3 TD's 200 yards)?
Here's a great clip of Dorsey lumbering off the field while watching McFadden celebrate in the end zone after busting off a 74-yd TD:
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Rausch 2.0
06-03-2008, 10:33 PM
But next year you will have a chance to draft a RB high but there is no guarantee that there will be a DT with the talent of Dorsey. Fade had good enough RB's to take Dorsey and then get a good back in the 2nd if they wanted. Keep making excuses for dirt bag AL's boner for McFadden.
So which is it?
Is Dorsey a bust and a stupid pick for KC or Jesus-in-a-Jockstrap and stupid for the Raiders not to take him?...
Tombstone RJ
06-03-2008, 10:58 PM
I think you missed it... Rhodes & Al had an agreement that he would be released in his last year of the contract if he was not going to be the #1 RB. Its really not that complicated. That agreement was honored, salary cap advantages to the team were secondary. Its OK, though... I understand that its more fun to think the Raiders are fat & stoopid. We're rival AFCW fans.... thats the way we are!
No, I think you missed it... the ONE GOOD POINT ON THE ENTIRE FAIDERS FOOTBALL TEAM IS THEIR RUNNING GAME WHICH HAD PLENTY OF RBs TO CHOOSE FROM, ALREADY ON THE ROSTER. ONE OF THOSE RBs HAPPENED TO BE DOMINIC RHODES WHO HAD PROVED HIS MEDDLE BY WINNING A SB CHAMPIONSHIP WITH THE COLTS. You wanted to justify Al's questionable decision take McFadden over Dorsey by claiming the stable of RBs the faiders had was not healthy or injury prone.
You say Rhodes and Al had some kind of agreement about his being released if he was not the #1 RB in the "last year of his contract."
Um, wasn't he only with the team for one year to begin with?
The reason he was let go is because the crypt keeper drafted McFadden. As you like to say "It's really not that complicated."
My point is that Al could have kept Rhodes, drafted Dorsey, and the team would have been better for the move.
And, as another poster pointed out, Al could have drafted another RB later if he felt the team was lacking in that department.
But what does he do? He takes the sexy pick. He takes the glamour position. Fine.
Actually, it's pointless to argue the point with you because the faiders are gonna suck ballz again this year. And next year, and probably the year after that too. Which, is actually great. Wow, what am I saying? I changed my mind, your right, TAKING MCFADDEN WAS A GREAT MOVE!
Ahh, I feel better now knowing that the faiders and their ignorant fans are gonna suffer a bit longer....Hilarious! :sunshine: :wave: Hilarious!
azbroncfan
06-03-2008, 11:17 PM
So which is it?
Is Dorsey a bust and a stupid pick for KC or Jesus-in-a-Jockstrap and stupid for the Raiders not to take him?...
I don't know how Dorsey will pan out as DT is as hard as QB to predict. I liked him and would of taken him over McFadden based on it's not too hard to get a decent back out of the draft. Yes in my opinion it was stupid for Oakland to pass on him.
Ugly Duck
06-04-2008, 12:02 AM
I changed my mind, your right, TAKING MCFADDEN WAS A GREAT MOVE!
There ya go! Ya'll also gotta consider that a big reason Oakland's offense sucked bad was because there were no real playmakers on the team. Zero. Not one homerun hitter in the whole bunch. And this year the zillion dollar man will be taking the snaps. If he doesn't do well the huge gamble could hurt the team for a long time. It was very important for the team long-term to get a playmaker with the potential to take some pressure off of Russell. So they drafted the guy with the biggest homerun-hitting playmaker potential.
Maximus
06-04-2008, 01:19 AM
Well... Lamont "You Slow Fat Dummy" is now available
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders_rebuild/ci_9470547
Rausch 2.0
06-04-2008, 01:22 AM
Well... Lamont "You Slow Fat Dummy" is now available
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders_rebuild/ci_9470547
Has been for a while...
Bladerunner
06-04-2008, 12:12 PM
There ya go! Ya'll also gotta consider that a big reason Oakland's offense sucked bad was because there were no real playmakers on the team. Zero. Not one homerun hitter in the whole bunch. And this year the zillion dollar man will be taking the snaps. If he doesn't do well the huge gamble could hurt the team for a long time. It was very important for the team long-term to get a playmaker with the potential to take some pressure off of Russell. So they drafted the guy with the biggest homerun-hitting playmaker potential.
I think that this is really the only rational argument for the pick. I wasn't surprised that Davis chose Mcfadden, but I honestly believe that the best move would have been Dorsey. Oakland had bigger need at DT than RB as you have good RB depth and hadn't even gotten a look at Bush, and it's arguable that Dorsey was the BPA.
Furthermore, taking Dorsey would have passed Mcfadden to KC, they couldn't have taken him, probably would have taken the dude from Ohio State, leaving D-line as a problem. I think Oakland taking Mcfadden really set up the Chief's draft.
I do hear the playmaker argument though. It has some logic, but I don't think that good teams are built that way.
There ya go! Ya'll also gotta consider that a big reason Oakland's offense sucked bad was because there were no real playmakers on the team. Zero. Not one homerun hitter in the whole bunch. And this year the zillion dollar man will be taking the snaps. If he doesn't do well the huge gamble could hurt the team for a long time. It was very important for the team long-term to get a playmaker with the potential to take some pressure off of Russell. So they drafted the guy with the biggest homerun-hitting playmaker potential.
Yes, they lacked home run hitters, it had nothing to do with their entire offensive line ranging from slightly below average to street FA replacement level.
But hey, I'm sure that's fixed now. I mean, they got Kwame Harris. That's a step in the right direction.
Raider Bill
06-04-2008, 07:24 PM
McFadden was the #1 guy on just about everyone's board.
Best player available, suck it Donk fan!
BroncosinDC
06-04-2008, 07:33 PM
To bad for McFadden he will have to try and run through the massive holes produced by:
70 Jesse Boone C 26 6-5 305 R Utah
64 Jake Grove C 28 6-4 300 5 Virginia Tech
51 Chris Morris C 25 6-4 305 3 Michigan State
76 John Wade C 33 6-5 299 11 Marshall
66 Cooper Carlisle G 30 6-5 295 9 Florida
63 Mark Wilson OL 27 6-6 318 3 California
76 Robert Gallery OT 27 6-7 325 5 Iowa
74 Cornell Green OT 31 6-6 315 9 UCF
77 Kwame Harris OT 26 6-7 322 6 Stanford
75 Mario Henderson OT 23 6-7 308 2 Florida State
79 Paul McQuistan OT 25 6-6 315 3 Weber State
61 Jonathan Palmer OT 24 6-4 336 1 Auburn
72 Seth Wand OT 28 6-7 327 6 Northwest Missouri State
All future HOF'ers
elsid13
06-04-2008, 07:35 PM
McFadden was the #1 guy on just about everyone's board.
Best player available, suck it Donk fan!
Expect Maylock from NFL Channel who know what he talking about unlike 99% of the internet nfl mock draft boards. Maylock had him in the 20s, and wasn't impressed with him.
Inkana7
06-04-2008, 07:35 PM
McFadden was the #1 guy on just about everyone's board.
Best player available, suck it Donk fan!
Congrats on earning the 4th pick?
ward63
06-04-2008, 08:21 PM
To bad for McFadden he will have to try and run through the massive holes produced by:
70 Jesse Boone C 26 6-5 305 R Utah
64 Jake Grove C 28 6-4 300 5 Virginia Tech
51 Chris Morris C 25 6-4 305 3 Michigan State
76 John Wade C 33 6-5 299 11 Marshall
66 Cooper Carlisle G 30 6-5 295 9 Florida
63 Mark Wilson OL 27 6-6 318 3 California
76 Robert Gallery OT 27 6-7 325 5 Iowa
74 Cornell Green OT 31 6-6 315 9 UCF
77 Kwame Harris OT 26 6-7 322 6 Stanford
75 Mario Henderson OT 23 6-7 308 2 Florida State
79 Paul McQuistan OT 25 6-6 315 3 Weber State
61 Jonathan Palmer OT 24 6-4 336 1 Auburn
72 Seth Wand OT 28 6-7 327 6 Northwest Missouri State
All future HOF'ers
Cooper might be their best lineman is what's funny...
Bronx33
06-04-2008, 08:34 PM
The fade with without a doubt **** up this perfect opportunity (book it) the boney fingers will meddle.
Bronx33
06-04-2008, 08:35 PM
Has been for a while...
That's what max means by slow. :approve:
DarkHorse30
06-05-2008, 01:01 AM
Fargas, coming off a season ending knee injury, signed for 6M guaranteed next season. Gotta love the way Davis unintentionally drives up the contract demands of his franchise RB.