Selvin's Goal: 2,000 Yard Season

[Memento]

More power to him for believing it... he has the skills, but the durability?

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sports/article.aspx?articleID=20080525_223_B8_spancl43158 6

Selvin sees 2,000: Denver Broncos running back Selvin Young dreams big. Even though he was
an undrafted free agent last season and has never rushed for 1,000 yards, Young's goal is to become only the sixth 2,000-yard rusher.

"People call me crazy," Young said in a telephone interview. "I got a lot of laughs, too, but I really think it's in me. I feel comfortable. I've gotten adjusted to this altitude. With that alone, I should be able to take more snaps a game. And it seems like they want to do a lot more things with me."

Young didn't exactly come out of nowhere last season. He did play at Texas, where he rushed for 1,713 yards and 25 touchdowns. But he went undrafted a year ago.

So he signed with the Broncos, who have a history of turning low-round and undrafted free agents into 1,000-yard rushers in their zone blocking scheme. Young started eight games and led the team with 729 yards, becoming only the sixth undrafted rookie since 1967 to rush for at least 500 yards. He averaged 5.2 yards per carry, and he caught 35 passes.

The Broncos plan to use Young in more ways this season, but he won't necessarily get the ball more. Broncos coach Mike Shanahan said earlier this offseason that he sees Young as 10-to-15-touches-a-game back. Thus, the Broncos will continue to rotate their backs.

"Selvin played very well when he played," Shanahan said at the NFL owners meetings. "He will wear down. He's not a big guy."

The Bucs said the same thing about Warrick Dunn when he first came into the league. Eleven years later, Dunn — who, at 5-foot-9, 187 pounds, is even smaller than Young — has averaged 17.7 touches per game in his career. In 2005 and '06, he averaged 19.3 touches per game and played in all 16 games.

Young, like Dunn, believes in himself. He believes he can beat out Travis Henry for the starting job; he believes, too, that he can be an every-down back, holding up under the strain of 20, 25 or even occasionally 30 touches a game.

"I really feel like last year was just the tip of the iceberg," Young said. "This off-season I put a lot of work in to be healthy and to be able to maintain my health throughout the season. I hope expectations are higher from the coaches. I hope that it wasn't expected last season, but I hope now it is expected of me."

[thumpc]

I have a good feeling about this season. Even if its only a 9-7 year, all the young ones will gel and give us a taste of the next 10 of Broncos dominance.

[FireFly]

Was there a particular reason that Young didn't get drafted? like injury or what not? Or was it that he just wasn't seen as a draftable talent

[footstepsfrom#27]

Will he even beat out Henry? I don't see what the big deal is over this guy. He looks like any other system back we've had in here...no TD.

[thumpc]

Will he even beat out Henry? I don't see what the big deal is over this guy. He looks like any other system back we've had in here...no TD.

He's one more improving young player, creeping up on you with his thoughts on the future of the Broncos offense. This article alone will crank up predictions by one win.

[Greybeard]

MHR said that Young has put 15 more pounds on his shoulders and legs. If that
is true, that would bring him up to 220 lbs. . . . no longer a "small guy."

Is it possible we have a bruiser with speed here?

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[thumpc]

The paper said 5 lbs, legs and shoulders. Still, his stamina is better, 13 to 18 carry a game guy, 20 on a holiday.

[Greybeard]

Here's where I got mine: "Young's workouts have added 15 pounds of muscle,
mostly in his legs and shoulders, and is working on running with more purpose,
something that seemed to be lacking, especially in the Red Zone."

http://www.milehighreport.com/2008/5/22/533975/denver-broncos-quarterback

One or the other must be a typo. ???

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[thumpc]

I'm having trouble retracing my steps. I hope MHR is right anyway.

[Drek]

Was there a particular reason that Young didn't get drafted? like injury or what not? Or was it that he just wasn't seen as a draftable talent

Yeah. X-rays of his legs make you thing he's the bionic man. He's got more pins and screws in his legs than a hardware store.

Not to mention that the various injuries that made those pins and screws necessary basically robbed him of 90% of his athletic ability. Entering college he was a top prospect and compared athletically to Reggie Bush. He's lost a ton of that speed and agility. He might be able to work back to that level, but its a big maybe.

He also needs to prove that he can start, and that he isn't as fragile as he seemed to be in college.

I personally don't think he will. I think his career is going to be as a scat back/return man and that he'll quickly lose out to Ryan Torain as our backup in case of another Henry incident of some kind. Sad when the guy coming back from a Lisfranc is probably our least injury prone RB.

[rbackfactory80]

Here we go again. Champ and Dre won't allow a pass, Selvin will rush for 2500, Cutler will not throw and interception, and Shanahan will not use the saying "we have a chance to do something special". Oh thats right, its the offseason.

[Ziggy]

I hope Young improves with the added strength, and becomes a bit more durable. I still don't see him as anything more than a complimentary back though.

[elsid13]

I hope Young improves with the added strength, and becomes a bit more durable. I still don't see him as anything more than a complimentary back though.

I have a feeling both Shanahan and Turner have that same feeling.

[Inkana7]

I just have a feeling he'll be a starter this year.

[DarkHorse30]

since the NFL has drifted toward the 2-back system, Young has lot of potential in our system. He has proven he can break long ones, (8 20+yd. carries puts him in a pretty short list). He would be a perfect change of pace back, since he has the experience of starting when Henry got injured, AND he caught 35 balls....not bad for an undrafted rook.

Of all the backs I've seen Denver draft in the last 5 years, Young is the most impressive so far, IMO. He can break for big gains and often gets something out of nothing. He makes Tatum Bell look like a chump....yet lots of fans were thinking Bell was the deal, only because of his high draft position. Look at his stats from last year and notice that Denver's running scheme made him look better than he is......ditto for Portis (look at how he USED to break long ones in Denver....no more).

If Selvin can't carry the rock 30 times a game, he joins a big club; only 4 RBs averaged more than 20 carries (Marshawn Lynch tops @ 21.5) per game. Most backs were around 12-18 carries (including Travis Henry @ 13.9) per game.

[BABronco]

I just have a feeling he'll be a starter this year.

I hope so. Already tired of seeing old man Henry back there.

[TheReverend]

Here's where I got mine: "Young's workouts have added 15 pounds of muscle,
mostly in his legs and shoulders, and is working on running with more purpose,
something that seemed to be lacking, especially in the Red Zone."

http://www.milehighreport.com/2008/5/22/533975/denver-broncos-quarterback

One or the other must be a typo. ???

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He needs every pound he can get in his hips, not his shoulders.

[broncofan7]

words of advice for Selvin--STFU , gain the starting RB position and rush for simply 1000 yards before you start making proclamations along the lines of Adrian Peterson.

[broncs2bowl]

i agree Young its good to be confident but dont make a fool of youself. Putting yourself in the company of Faulk, TD Sanders and others is just plain stupid. Win a starting job and have a good full healthy starting season before you evn think of making proclomations like this.

[Northman]

MHR said that Young has put 15 more pounds on his shoulders and legs. If that
is true, that would bring him up to 220 lbs. . . . no longer a "small guy."

Is it possible we have a bruiser with speed here?

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Hopefully.

[Inkana7]

For Christ's sake. He's not saying he WILL rush for 2,000. He's saying that it's a goal and he feels like he can do it one day.

[BroncoMan4ever]

For Christ's sake. He's not saying he WILL rush for 2,000. He's saying that it's a goal and he feels like he can do it one day.

I AGREE.

And we as fans should all be happy that we have a RB on the roster who has aspirations as high as Selvin does.
He doesn't just want to start in the league he wants to start and be great. Henry just wants to make a few more checks to pay for his 25 kids, Hall is happy to make the roster, and i don't know about Torain. He dreams big, but at least he has the desire to want to do something great.

[BroncoBuff]

MHR said that Young has put 15 more pounds on his shoulders and legs. If that
is true, that would bring him up to 220 lbs. . . . no longer a "small guy."

Is it possible we have a bruiser with speed here?
Bulk and toughness can only enhance his awesome promise ... injuries are the only thing that can stop him. I've said this before, but didn't get much response: Selvin's quickness and darting elusiveness reminds me of Portis. Even TD wasn't a darter like that .... before Portis, I think you gotta go all the way back to Otis Armstrong to find a fulltime quick, scat-back darter like Selvin.

I might be the most bullish guy on Selvin ... he's a supernova set to burst. His rookie year reminds me of B-Marsh's rookie year, in that we should brace ourselves for a monstrous break-out sophomore campaign. I dunno why that feeling isn't more widespread, maybe the 7-9 season left people underwhelmed for the future.

[Gcver2ver3]

2,000 yds?

lets get real....

he just needs to focus on trying to earn the starting job....i'm not sure he will but he's a decent back so he has a shot i guess...

i think Torrain will be in the mix if not starting by mid season anyway...

[broncofan7]

and my 'goal' is to develop a novel drug therapy that can 'turn off' cancer cells........and my goal is to become president of the united states and make subjects of the USA every beautiful woman on planet earth .....It is unfortunate that tulsaworld.com went ahead and posted such an outlandish statement from someone who has not even gained a starting position in hte NFL. I certainly hope that he is able to obtain his lofty 'goal' for the betterment of our franchise---this article simply gives us some insight into the maniacal lunacy that pervades Selvin's little mind.

[Greybeard]

Bulk and toughness can only enhance his awesome promise ... injuries are the only thing that can stop him. I've said this before, but didn't get much response: Selvin's quickness and darting elusiveness reminds me of Portis. Even TD wasn't a darter like that .... before Portis, I think you gotta go all the way back to Otis Armstrong to find a fulltime quick, scat-back darter like Selvin.

I might be the most bullish guy on Selvin ... he's a supernova set to burst. His rookie year reminds me of B-Marsh's rookie year, in that we should brace ourselves for a monstrous break-out sophomore campaign. I dunno why that feeling isn't more widespread, maybe the 7-9 season left people underwhelmed for the future.

You're not the only one to make comparisons to Portis. Some of Young's
teammates last year said they haven't seen quickness and moves like that
since Portis.

I also heard separate, unrelated comments about how Young could make
others on the field look as if they're moving in "slow motion," from Shanny to
a couple different color commentators. The comments on his speed and
quickness seemed many.

I think what bothers many on these boards is that he remained undrafted.
"There's a reason he went undrafted," they say, while I remind them that
there must be a reason why Rod Smith and Matt Lepsis went undrafted, and
why Mecklenburg and Tyrone Braxton each went in the 12th round . . .
beyond free agent by today's standards.

So someone else pipes up and says he's tired of hearing how the others went
undrafted. My response is, fine, then don't make me keep bringing them up.

Young went undrafted, IMO, because of his ankle injury, which stymied his
entire collegiate career. It was held together with pins at one time, and it
kept him out of action for a couple years . . . he was still recovering during
his senior year, and by then a gentleman by the name of Charles had taken
over the primary RB duties.

Which brings up another argument by the other side: How come he couldn't
beat out Charles if he's so good? Well, how come TD couldn't take over the
starting position at Georgia?

Young has displayed significant talents and abilities beyond his stablemates.
Add to that his tremendous heart. If you study his history in college, I believe
his injury would have put most RBs out of football. So now, he has set the
lofty goal of not only starting but going for the 2,000-yard mark.

Not saying he will do that. We'll have to see. But I'm glad to see winnng
attitudes such as that on the team. They need them.

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[elsid13]

Right now Young may have the greatest moves in open field, but can he get you the constaint 4 to 5 yards to move the ball and keep chains moving. I don't think he has the ability to do that with breaking down. That why I am excited about Torain, a kid I been pimping for long time. He the kinda runner that bring physical presence to the RB spot that we been missing since TD/MA/OG left.

[Kaylore]

::) Gee, that's nice Selvin...

[Florida_Bronco]

Will he even beat out Henry? I don't see what the big deal is over this guy. He looks like any other system back we've had in here...no TD.

I disagree entirely. He showed some very impressive moves last year that I haven't seen from any of our backs lately.

[Cito Pelon]

words of advice for Selvin--STFU , gain the starting RB position and rush for simply 1000 yards before you start making proclamations along the lines of Adrian Peterson.

He said it is his "goal". Give the kid a break, jeez. He didn't make a "proclamation".

[BroncoBuff]

I don't see what the big deal is over this guy. He looks like any other system back we've had in here...
This is exactly what I'm saying, topscribe. Footsteps knows what he's talking about, but like alotta other guys here, he doesn't see what I see. I don't get it. Selvin's at the very least the most TALENTED back we've had since Portis, and he reminds me totally of Portis ... if not, Otis Armstrong.


You're not the only one to make comparisons to Portis. Some of Young's teammates last year said they haven't seen quickness and moves like that since Portis.

I also heard separate, unrelated comments about how Young could make others on the field look as if they're moving in "slow motion," from Shanny to a couple different color commentators.
Thanks for that, topscribe. I AM NOT ALONE! :strong:

[Greybeard]

This is exactly what I'm saying, topscribe. Footsteps knows what he's talking about, but like alotta other guys here, he doesn't see what I see. I don't get it. Selvin's at the very least the most TALENTED back we've had since Portis, and he reminds me totally of Portis ... if not, Otis Armstrong.



Thanks for that, topscribe. I AM NOT ALONE! :strong:

Can we touch tongues?

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[Killericon]

This is exactly what I'm saying, topscribe. Footsteps knows what he's talking about, but like alotta other guys here, he doesn't see what I see. I don't get it. Selvin's at the very least the most TALENTED back we've had since Portis, and he reminds me totally of Portis ... if not, Otis Armstrong.

???

http://www.denverautographs.com/images/GRIFFIN16X20.jpg

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42022000/jpg/_42022112_pod.jpg

ROFL! It's good to be back.

[BroncoBuff]

I'll give you maybe Tatum is close, but no way Griffin. I'm talking raw talent, not production.

[Killericon]

I'll give you maybe Tatum is close, but no way Griffin. I'm talking raw talent, not production.

I'M KIDDING!

Meinen Gott!

I'm making fun of how we seem to find a savior running back every offseason...And there's always one who shows up in the regular season, but it's never the one we think it'll be.

[Los Broncos]

Way to aim high Selvin but, 2,000 yards is pretty tough.

[BroncoBuff]

I'M KIDDING!

Meinen Gott!

I'm making fun of how we seem to find a savior running back every offseason...And there's always one who shows up in the regular season, but it's never the one we think it'll be.
You have a good point though - however quick and elusive Selvin is, he's probably just a third-down back, part of a 1-2 RB punch. Tatum and Griffin were both just tandem guys too. What Portis adds is toughness and durability, something even I'm not prepared to bet on for Selvin.

[Greybeard]

You have a good point though - however quick and elusive Selvin is, he's probably just a third-down back, part of a 1-2 RB punch. Tatum and Griffin were both just tandem guys too. What Portis adds is toughness and durability, something even I'm not prepared to bet on for Selvin.

Well, maybe not. But that is something Selvin apparently has worked very hard
at this offseason, so we'll have to see. I know Selvin certainly does not mind
hitting people, and, if he indeed has put on those reported 15 pounds, he is now
bigger than Portis.

So, while I'm not prepared to hand him the mantle (as if it were mine to give),
I'm not prepared to count him out, either. Especially with his attitude.

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[azbroncfan]

Selvin will get 2000 yards if you count both last year and the upcoming year.

[Inkana7]

I can see 2,000 all-purpose yards this season.

[Punisher]

"People call me crazy," Young said in a telephone interview. "I got a lot of laughs, too, but I really think it's in me. I feel comfortable. I've gotten adjusted to this altitude. With that alone, I should be able to take more snaps a game. And it seems like they want to do a lot more things with me."


Peolpe called Albert Einstein crazy too :)

[Bob]

and my 'goal' is to develop a novel drug therapy that can 'turn off' cancer cells........and my goal is to become president of the united states and make subjects of the USA every beautiful woman on planet earth .....It is unfortunate that tulsaworld.com went ahead and posted such an outlandish statement from someone who has not even gained a starting position in hte NFL. I certainly hope that he is able to obtain his lofty 'goal' for the betterment of our franchise---this article simply gives us some insight into the maniacal lunacy that pervades Selvin's little mind.

Hmmm, if you are good enough to make the NFL, I think shoot for the stars, just dont turn into a head-case like TO. He does not seem like an ego maniac to me -- and it might just help him if he works just as hard.

[JLesSPE]

I like it that he wants to be successful, and what better way to be successful as a RB than to get 2,000 yards? Sure he probably won't get it, but if he runs all year like he's running towards 2k then it's gonna be a good year. I'm excited to see either Henry or Torain running over defenses and tiring them out, then watch Selvin dance around a bunch of sleeping linebackers for a long gain. I think a talented FB in Peyton Hillis and a healthy OL will make this an interesting season for offensive production.

[Bob]

You have a good point though - however quick and elusive Selvin is, he's probably just a third-down back, part of a 1-2 RB punch. Tatum and Griffin were both just tandem guys too. What Portis adds is toughness and durability, something even I'm not prepared to bet on for Selvin.

I like him in a role position myself -- if Henry can get his burst back, or if we can get something out of our big back we drafted this year -- it would be a nice combo punch. Put the bigger back in there for a while loosen them up, and then start sprinkling Selvin in.

[broncofan2438]

All the power to the man. If he thinks he can do it, so be it

[peacepipe]

LOL,You guys are killing me T. Bell,Griffin,Young are nowhere near as talented as portis or TD.

[BroncoBuff]

Peolpe called Albert Einstein crazy too :)

LOL Classic

[cmhargrove]

For once, i would like a RB that wanted 20 TD's and stopped talking about yards. We need points.

I'll say that again, we need points.

I've told you three times already, we need points.

I want an RB than can score, not just run.



Go get us some points Selvin!

[Taco John]

In an interesting coincidence, it's my goal to make $200 million dollars this year.

[Natedogg]

Bulk and toughness can only enhance his awesome promise ... injuries are the only thing that can stop him. I've said this before, but didn't get much response: Selvin's quickness and darting elusiveness reminds me of Portis. Even TD wasn't a darter like that .... before Portis, I think you gotta go all the way back to Otis Armstrong to find a fulltime quick, scat-back darter like Selvin.

I might be the most bullish guy on Selvin ... he's a supernova set to burst. His rookie year reminds me of B-Marsh's rookie year, in that we should brace ourselves for a monstrous break-out sophomore campaign. I dunno why that feeling isn't more widespread, maybe the 7-9 season left people underwhelmed for the future.

Think you're right buff.

btw, first post since the crash. thank heavens.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

How cute.

If Selvin Young rushes for 2,000 yards I'll become a broncos fan.

[Greybeard]

Peolpe called Albert Einstein crazy too :)

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." - Einstein

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[Bob's your Information Minister]

This really is amusing. Young is a decent back, but he's small. You have to be built like a tank to run for 2,000 yards.

[Greybeard]

This really is amusing. Young is a decent back, but he's small. You have to be built like a tank to run for 2,000 yards.

How small do you think he is?

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[SoCalBronco]

How cute.

If Selvin Young rushes for 2,000 yards I'll become a broncos fan.

So basically nothing is going to change.

[Vegas_Bronco]

I really don't care how many yards he gets...I'd rather have a TD inside the red zone for each trip than a Bronco RB who/that reaches 2,000.

Let's get our damn offense to score some points!!! When you're successful at everything, the stats will be just a simple part of the success.

[Inkana7]

How cute.

If Selvin Young rushes for 2,000 yards I'll become a broncos fan.

Didn't you make a Selvin Young prediction last year, too? Something about him not scoring a TD in the NFL?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

How small do you think he is?

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Small enough that carrying the ball 350 times would land him on IR.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Didn't you make a Selvin Young prediction last year, too? Something about him not scoring a TD in the NFL?

I said I'd be shocked if he scored one.

He scored one in 175 touches. Consider me shocked.

[Florida_Bronco]

I was wondering what that smell was. Sure enough, Bobo is back.

[Greybeard]

Small enough that carrying the ball 350 times would land him on IR.

That's not very specific. You said he was small. How small is he? Specifically?


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[BroncoBuff]

Think you're right buff.

btw, first post since the crash. thank heavens.
This is your first post since the crash? Well then, perhaps the rumors are true. I heard throught the grapevine that the whole site crashed when Natedog hit 1000 posts. Dunno if it's true, but that rumor is making the rounds ;D

[Cito Pelon]

Selvin is a pretty good back. Shanny can get 1500 APY out of Selvin. Dude may start. He's a smart kid, whatever Shanny throws at him he can handle, that's probably his strong point.

[OOJack]

Young's not effing around this year...let's hope it does it! 20 more pounds should help a lot.

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Mike Klis, of the Denver Post, reports Denver Broncos RB Selvin Young has set 2,000 rushing yards as his goal for the 2008 season. Young said, "The key to that to me is staying healthy. Everything else, I believe in wholeheartedly. It's not like I said something to try to get a laugh or to smile or to get people to pay attention to me. It's something I believe is in me."

2008-05-28 01:05:07

For additional NFL information, please view KFFL's NFL Hot off the Wire.

[TheReverend]

That is definitely "Hot off the wire"

[Old Dude]

This was in the local paper this AM.

Shanny's response was basically that he's happy to see his players work hard toward high goals.

[TheReverend]

This was in the local paper this AM.

Shanny's response was basically that he's happy to see his players work hard toward high goals.

Anyone know if we landed on the moon?

[bronco militia]

i'll be surprised if Selvin Young gets 2000 yards in his NFL career.

[tsiguy96]

wow...for being "bronco fans" you are all a bunch of haters.

why not support him considering hes the best back we have? his 5.2 ypc was one of the top in the league and no one is even close to him as far as recieving skills in the backfield.

[TheReverend]

wow...for being "bronco fans" you are all a bunch of haters.

why not support him considering hes the best back we have? his 5.2 ypc was one of the top in the league and no one is even close to him as far as recieving skills in the backfield.

Tatum Bell put that to shame.

Look up some threads on his concensus opinion.

[bronco militia]

I don't think anyone here is doubting his ability. It's the reality of playing RB in the NFL and for the denver broncos that we are factoring in.

his 5.2 ypc was one of the top in the league and no one is even close to him as far as recieving skills in the backfield.

just say no to Tatum Bell

[bronco militia]

Tatum Bell put that to shame.

Look up some threads on his concensus opinion.

LOL

beat me to it

[TheReverend]

LOL

beat me to it

Eh. I actually wish he were still here. He can't handle the load, that was apparent with his play-through-injury final season here, but at 10 carries a game, he was pretty special. There's several games in that AFCC run that we wouldn't have won without some incredible plays by him.

[Old Dude]

Anyone know if we landed on the moon?

Okee dokee. Saw the other thread and I'll merge them!

[Greybeard]

Young's not effing around this year...let's hope it does it! 20 more pounds should help a lot.

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Mike Klis, of the Denver Post, reports Denver Broncos RB Selvin Young has set 2,000 rushing yards as his goal for the 2008 season. Young said, "The key to that to me is staying healthy. Everything else, I believe in wholeheartedly. It's not like I said something to try to get a laugh or to smile or to get people to pay attention to me. It's something I believe is in me."

2008-05-28 01:05:07

For additional NFL information, please view KFFL's NFL Hot off the Wire.

Twenty more pounds? Where did you see that?

As I mentioned elsewhere, MHR reported 15 more, but I haven't seen 20.

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[Kaylore]

wow...for being "bronco fans" you are all a bunch of haters.

why not support him considering hes the best back we have? his 5.2 ypc was one of the top in the league and no one is even close to him as far as recieving skills in the backfield.

I guess I'd like to see a back say something like this:

"This year I want to make all the right reads in pass protection. I want to follow my line and find the hole. I want to protect my quarterback and protect the ball when the offense entrusts it to me. I want to stay in my lane on special teams and warp up my tackles. I want to work hard for my team to to win games, make the playoffs and beyond."

That would be preferable to unrealistic numbers.

[TheReverend]

I guess I'd like to see a back say something like this:

"This year I want to make all the right reads in pass protection. I want to follow my line and find the hole. I want to protect my quarterback and protect the ball when the offense entrusts it to me. I want to stay in my lane on special teams and warp up my tackles. I want to work hard for my team to to win games, make the playoffs and beyond."

That would be preferable to unrealistic numbers.

True, but half the stuff should go without saying, and 2000 yards would certainly be helping the team win games and make the playoffs.

Besides, you're talking about the maturity of a vet.

[broncosteven]

I guess I'd like to see a back say something like this:

"This year I want to make all the right reads in pass protection. I want to follow my line and find the hole. I want to protect my quarterback and protect the ball when the offense entrusts it to me. I want to stay in my lane on special teams and warp up my tackles. I want to work hard for my team to to win games, make the playoffs and beyond."

That would be preferable to unrealistic numbers.

YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME

[cmhargrove]

Do they count practices in 2000 yards?






Really, 1,200 yards would be a tremendous year for Selvin. Especially if that was 1200 yards and 10 TD's.

[TheReverend]

Do they count practices in 2000 yards?






Really, 1,200 yards would be a tremendous year for Selvin. Especially if that was 1200 yards and 10 TD's.

To hit 1,000 he'll need Jesus.

[BroncoBuff]

To hit 1,000 he'll need Jesus.

That's where you come in, Reverend.

[BlaK-Argentina]

I sure hope he gets at least 1500 and shuts all you guys up.
I don't understand what's so wrong about this. He's setting his goals high.

All this time the Mane was down I was waiting for it to come back to hear from all you guys but now I'm not too sure if this is what I wanted.

[Greybeard]

I sure hope he gets at least 1500 and shuts all you guys up.
I don't understand what's so wrong about this. He's setting his goals high.

All this time the Mane was down I was waiting for it to come back to hear from all you guys but now I'm not too sure if this is what I wanted.

So . . . you didn't read many posts before the Mane went down? :laugh:

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[TheReverend]

I sure hope he gets at least 1500 and shuts all you guys up.
I don't understand what's so wrong about this. He's setting his goals high.

All this time the Mane was down I was waiting for it to come back to hear from all you guys but now I'm not too sure if this is what I wanted.

Well I know I was waiting with baited breath to hear about how Selvin Young thinks he can get 2000 yards in a crowded backfield where he'll be lucky to see 10 touches a game.

[Taco John]

wow...for being "bronco fans" you are all a bunch of haters.

why not support him considering hes the best back we have? his 5.2 ypc was one of the top in the league and no one is even close to him as far as recieving skills in the backfield.



Because right now he's a nobody. I hope he's the next big thing, but when some nobody who only Broncos fans even know about start spouting garbage about rushing for 2,000 yards, in my opinion it disrespects us and it disrespects the game.

I didn't see Terrell Davis out there spouting off every year about breaking the 2,000 yard mark. He just went out with the attitude that he's going to do his best in *this* particular game, and let the yards take care of themselves.

I hope that Selvin breaks 2,000 yards. I also hope I don't hear another word about it until about week 15 when he's got almost 1,700 yards and it's actually realistic to talk about the possibility.

[TheReverend]

Because right now he's a nobody. I hope he's the next big thing, but when some nobody who only Broncos fans even know about start spouting garbage about rushing for 2,000 yards, in my opinion it disrespects us and it disrespects the game.

I didn't see Terrell Davis out there spouting off every year about breaking the 2,000 yard mark. He just went out with the attitude that he's going to do his best in *this* particular game, and let the yards take care of themselves.

I hope that Selvin breaks 2,000 yards. I also hope I don't hear another word about it until about week 15 when he's got almost 1,700 yards and it's actually realistic to talk about the possibility.

Or in most cases that year, half of that particular game :thumbsup:

[Greybeard]

Because right now he's a nobody. I hope he's the next big thing, but when some nobody who only Broncos fans even know about start spouting garbage about rushing for 2,000 yards, in my opinion it disrespects us and it disrespects the game.

I didn't see Terrell Davis out there spouting off every year about breaking the 2,000 yard mark. He just went out with the attitude that he's going to do his best in *this* particular game, and let the yards take care of themselves.

I hope that Selvin breaks 2,000 yards. I also hope I don't hear another word about it until about week 15 when he's got almost 1,700 yards and it's actually realistic to talk about the possibility.

To the contrary, I respect someone who sets high goals and believes in himself.
The highest achievers in society are those who set specific goals and can
crystallize them in their minds. The guy has the guts to stick his neck out and
publicly proclaim his goals, put himself on the spot.

The late, great Earl Nightingale once asked a very wealthy man when it was
that he considered himself rich. The man answered, "I was rich before I ever
earned a penny." It happens upstairs first, and only then can one bring it to
fruition.

IMO, we need more of that . . . and more than just on the team we root for.

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[TheReverend]

To the contrary, I respect someone who sets high goals and believes in himself.
The highest achievers in society are those who set specific goals and can
crystallize them in their minds. The guy has the guts to stick his neck out and
publicly proclaim his goals, put himself on the spot.

The late, great Earl Nightingale once asked a very wealthy man when it was
that he considered himself rich. The man answered, "I was rich before I ever
earned a penny." It happens upstairs first, and only then can one bring it to
fruition.

IMO, we need more of that . . . and more than just on the team we root for.

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Wow, this is a really good point!

After all, where would we as Americans be had George Washington not abolished the Continental Congress, assumed the mantle of Warlord of the Americas, and soundly beaten any competitive checks and balances into submission so he could solely possess personal glory?

[Greybeard]

Wow, this is a really good point!

After all, where would we as Americans be had George Washington not abolished the Continental Congress, assumed the mantle of Warlord of the Americas, and soundly beaten any competitive checks and balances into submission so he could solely possess personal glory?

Is this supposed to be a display of intellect or something?

Nice try . . .

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[TheReverend]

Is this supposed to be a display of intellect or something?

Nice try . . .

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Yes, that's exactly the point I was trying to make... Spot on!

[Greybeard]

Yes, that's exactly the point I was trying to make... Spot on!

Boy, Rev, when you set out to make an ass of yourself, you stick with it until
you have completed your goals, don't you?

In a way, you are a shining example of the point I was trying to make. ;)

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[TheReverend]

Boy, Rev, when you set out to make an ass of yourself, you stick with it until
you have completed your goals, don't you?

In a way, you are a shining example of the point I was trying to make. ;)

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The discussion on this thread is too good to end up in the Butt, troll, so I'll ignore any inflamatory attempts at arguing your weak little mind can make. I'd suggest re-reading the other post until you can finally start wrapping some shred of understanding around how silly your original post is... especially in a team oriented sense.

[Greybeard]

The discussion on this thread is too good to end up in the Butt, troll, so I'll ignore any inflamatory attempts at arguing your weak little mind can make. I'd suggest re-reading the other post until you can finally start wrapping some shred of understanding around how silly your original post is... especially in a team oriented sense.

I rest my case. http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh256/AZDynamics/Smilies/coffee.gif

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[lex]

Part of me is glad to see this because its nice to see someone not concede the job to Travis Henry. But part of me wants him to just shut up about it and not draw attention to himself. I dont really see it as not being pro-team as much as I see it making it harder.

[BroncoBuff]

Because right now he's a nobody. I hope he's the next big thing, but when some nobody who only Broncos fans even know about start spouting garbage about rushing for 2,000 yards, in my opinion it disrespects us and it disrespects the game.To the contrary, I respect someone who sets high goals and believes in himself.
The highest achievers in society are those who set specific goals and can
crystallize them in their minds.
You're both right. It's admirable for a young man to set goals for himself, and to expect nothing less than to meet and exceed what others have accomplished in the same position. But he might've been better off not publicicing them ... I realize it was the just the "Tulsa World," but word travels in the NFL.

I will say this, he's putting his money where his mouth is. Adding 15 pounds of upper-body muscle in four months is not easy.

[bowtown]

I get exhausted by the people on this board who start screaming everytime a player says anything to the press at all. It's part of their jobs and part of why you are entertained by it. If it's something negative you all cry sour grapes or treason, and if it's possitive or competitive, you all tell them to shut up and prove it.

All the kid did was set some lofty goals for himself and then up the stakes for himself by making it public. He didn't throw any teamates under the bus or guarantee any victories. He didn't criticize the coaches. He didn't get into a car and drive drunk. He didn't put anyone on the line but himself and his reputation when he said that, so maybe we owe him the chance to actually go out and work to live up to that. These are competitive football players, they aren't perfect and they don't always say the right thing. But jesus, Selvin didn't even say or do the wrong thing and half of you are all over him. Settle down and give the kid a chance.

PS. It's good to have the Mane back

[broncosteven]

Doesn't LT say the same thing every year only to sit out the Pre-season and end up with a slow start for the 1st 2-4 games?

I like Selvin and was hoping last year he would beat out THC (henry), hopefully he can prove it in TC and Preseason.

[Mountain Bronco]

So the kid thinks highly of himself. Its probably why he is in the NFL and you deuchbags argue on the internet. Get out of grandma's basement, get a life and stop trying to be the first to a million posts.

I am sure vets do talk about making the right blocks and such, but the media would never report that, so stop dreaming.

[broncosteven]

So the kid thinks highly of himself. Its probably why he is in the NFL and you deuchbags argue on the internet. Get out of grandma's basement, get a life and stop trying to be the first to a million posts.

I am sure vets do talk about making the right blocks and such, but the media would never report that, so stop dreaming.

REP

But I think you meant Douchebag...though if one was German you could call them an Eine Grosse Deutsches Tasche or Der Verspater Deutsches Tasche

[Taco John]

I have no problem with the kid setting lofty goals for himself. I just don't want to hear about 2,000 yard seasons until about week 14 or 15 from superstars, let alone someone who still needs to put up his first 1,000 yard season.

[sixtimeseight]

So the kid thinks highly of himself. Its probably why he is in the NFL and you deuchbags argue on the internet. Get out of grandma's basement, get a life and stop trying to be the first to a million posts.

Nothing quite as funny as someone on an internet message board criticizing other people for posting on internet message boards.

Anyways, it is about a thousand times more likely that Young fails to get 200 yards than get 2000.

[Mountain Bronco]

^^^ Touche (probably misspelled that also). What I was really getting at is that some people have way to much time on their hands and get rilled up over something so small as evidenced by those with billions of posts and congrats on posting 8 gagillion times, you wasted your life on a broncos board.

[TheReverend]

I have no problem with the kid setting lofty goals for himself. I just don't want to hear about 2,000 yard seasons until about week 14 or 15 from superstars, let alone someone who still needs to put up his first 1,000 [all purpose] yard season.

Fixed it for ya, TJ

[chaz]

Not to mention that the various injuries that made those pins and screws necessary basically robbed him of 90% of his athletic ability. Entering college he was a top prospect and compared athletically to Reggie Bush. He's lost a ton of that speed and agility.

:bs: 90%? the guy can still play...you're right about all the injuries, but he's got something left too.

[Memento]

As I said at the beginning of this thread, more power to the kid. I vaguely remember reading about his story and the incredible odds he's overcome just to get where he is. He's afraid of the dark -- literally -- from a traumatic childhood where he grew up piss poor. This link (http://cbs4denver.com/broncos/Denver.Broncos.NFL.2.562462.html) tells some of it, but I remember reading more.

Then the shattered ankle, the wheelchair, failing out of UT, being completely overlooked in the draft and breaking his favorite coffee mug (?).

Okay, fine, so cue the violin music. Just keep the lights on super-bright and the kid will be fine (maybe the brighter the stadium lights, the better he plays:notworthy ). I guess cloudy day-games will be his Kryptonite, and other teams would be wise to dim the bleacher lights during road-night games.

Anyhow, he shows up at our camp last year with a list of goals, and, yes, back then everyone thought he was nutty. Who was he to say he though he could be a starter? But he was soon checking those goals off right and left.

A few preseason games later and Dave Logan is saying Selvin Young looks like the fastest player on the field -- bar far -- and he's making all the other guys look like they're playing in sand. These are all guys who were actually drafted.

This carries into the regular season... as some of his mid-season games were quite impressive (until the injury bug bit).

Not saying he's gonna even smell 2K, but I like the list of goals, I like the drive, I like the determination, I like the added muscle/weight and he seems to have the heart for the game and the will to do it (oh crap, this is beginning to sound like a Nike commercial meets some weird Seinfeldian man crush... better bail out now).

Anyhow, I like the kid's story and I'm pulling for him.

Crank those stadium lights up extra bright. Go for it SY!

[Inkana7]

Like I said before, 2,000 all-purpose yards is very attainable for him.

[TheReverend]

Like I said before, 2,000 all-purpose yards is very attainable for him.

If he were at the top of the depth chart.
If we didn't do RBBC.
If he could somehow hold-up over the course of the season under that workload.

Then sure, why not? I could also have a four-way with Scarlett Johannson, Kate Beckinsale and Elisha Cuthbert.

[2KBack]

Then sure, why not? I could also have a four-way with Scarlett Johannson, Kate Beckinsale and Elisha Cuthbert.

Well, Selvin is at least in the right league for his fantasy

[sixtimeseight]

Like I said before, 2,000 all-purpose yards is very attainable for him.

Uhhh... no.

[Kaylore]

Like I said before, 2,000 all-purpose yards is very attainable for him.

If he returned kicks and starts then maybe.

[TheReverend]

Well, Selvin is at least in the right league for his fantasy

Nice dig, that made me smile.

[Greybeard]

breaking his favorite coffee mug (?).


That would do it for me. I couldn't take that . . .

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[Beantown Bronco]

That would do it for me. I couldn't take that . . .

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At least it wasn't a bed post. ;)

[2KBack]

Nice dig, that made me smile.

I want to have fun too :)

[Cito Pelon]

Because right now he's a nobody. I hope he's the next big thing, but when some nobody who only Broncos fans even know about start spouting garbage about rushing for 2,000 yards, in my opinion it disrespects us and it disrespects the game.

I didn't see Terrell Davis out there spouting off every year about breaking the 2,000 yard mark. He just went out with the attitude that he's going to do his best in *this* particular game, and let the yards take care of themselves.

I hope that Selvin breaks 2,000 yards. I also hope I don't hear another word about it until about week 15 when he's got almost 1,700 yards and it's actually realistic to talk about the possibility.

Dream on. You thought writers wouldn't follow up on this?

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_9434748

"I feel totally different," Young said. "I feel like more of a, if I can use the word, beast. I feel I can do a lot more than last year. Now I know I can do it. It's not, 'Wow, I really did it.' I knew I could do it before. Now I expect to do it."

Ok, Selvin, that's enough.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I'm beginning to loathe this little pipsqueak.

[Greybeard]

I'm beginning to loathe this little pipsqueak.

How little is he, Bob?

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[Florida_Bronco]

I'm beginning to loathe this little pipsqueak.

Understandable. I mean he did make your defense look like a peewee league squad.

[Greybeard]

How little is he, Bob?

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Well, Bob?

You know, this is at least the second time I've seen you allude to Selvin's size.
I would like to know if you know how tall he is and how much he weighs.

BTW, I might add a little footnote that Priest Holmes is 5'9", 213 lbs.

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[Los Broncos]

I remember him freaking someone out of their shoes in that game.

[DenverBrit]

'Shanahan said during last season that Young, at 205 pounds, wasn't big enough to handle a steady workload. But the coaching staff's view of Young, along with his weight, has changed. He's weighing 212, the same number, give or take, that Davis and Clinton Portis once carried.

"Some guys can't handle more than 10 carries a game, but Selvin can," Shanahan said. "He's going to have to get himself in excellent shape, but I'd like to see him handle it and get it done. When you're averaging over 5 yards a carry, we'd be crazy to take him out."

Young ran for 729 yards and 5.2 yards per carry after taking over for Henry. How confident is he that he can be The Man in the Broncos' backfield?

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_9434748


I see a kid doing all he can to be the starter for the Broncos.
I like his commitment and confidence. Time will tell if he's the man and can carry the load, but he's trying and has a good base to work from. 5.2 yds a carry will get it done.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

lol...yes Davis and Portis were totally comparable

[Greybeard]

lol...yes Davis and Portis were totally comparable

Yes, you're right, of course.

I'm tired of hearing about all them there little pipsqueaks.

TD, Portis, Holmes . . . Young. http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh256/AZDynamics/Smilies/coffee.gif

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[DenverBrit]

lol...yes Davis and Portis were totally comparable

Yes, they were both 212 pounds.
Does everything, except food, sail right over your head??

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Yes, they were both 212 pounds.
Does everything, except food, sail right over your head??

I don't care about weight.

Davis was durable.

Portis...is not.

[Florida_Bronco]

Yes, they were both 212 pounds.
Does everything, except food, sail right over your head??

You should know the answer to this by now. :rofl:

[sixtimeseight]

I'm beginning to loathe this little pipsqueak.

That "little pipsqueak" outran Larry Johnson last year. For about 1/20th the price.

Oops.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

You can find backs like Selvin Young every year in undrafted free agency. I bet he's not even on your roster in five years - if that.

[sixtimeseight]

Yea, I highly doubt he's on the roster in 5 years. I doubt he's even on the roster for two. However, the <$1,000,000 guaranteed he's getting for 700+ yards is quite a bit better yards/dollar than the $19,000,000 KC is paying LJ for 500 yards.

[DenverBrit]

You should know the answer to this by now. :rofl:

It was rhetorical, but that didn't stop Boob responding and proving my point. Ha!

[SoCalBronco]

I'm not sure why Selvin is getting flack in this thread. He's worked hard in the offseason, he's gained weight, he seems like he is working very hard to better himself for our benefit and he thinks he feels great going into this season. So what if he thinks he can get 2k yards? He did a nice job last year, put alot of effort into this game this summer and feels like he can be a big time player. I'm not sure what the problem is here. It's as if he shouldnt feel confident about himself or shouldn't believe he can meet really big goals, or shouldn't feel like he has taken a big step in his development due to his offseason work. Why are we ragging on this kid? So he thinks he is a "beast" now. Good for him. He'll have a chance to prove it.

Remember, this kid was dissed by our coach not too recently as a guy who can't handle the full time load. He has a chip on his shoulder. He obviously is working his ass off to prove that he can be the man. He thinks he can be. Is he not allowed to respond when these kinds of comments are made about him....especially when it seems he has worked really hard this summer to prove his doubters wrong?

[BlaK-Argentina]

I'm not sure why Selvin is getting flack in this thread. He's worked hard in the offseason, he's gained weight, he seems like he is working very hard to better himself for our benefit and he thinks he feels great going into this season. So what if he thinks he can get 2k yards? He did a nice job last year, put alot of effort into this game this summer and feels like he can be a big time player. I'm not sure what the problem is here. It's as if he shouldnt feel confident about himself or shouldn't believe he can meet really big goals, or shouldn't feel like he has taken a big step in his development due to his offseason work. Why are we ragging on this kid? So he thinks he is a "beast" now. Good for him. He'll have a chance to prove it.

Remember, this kid was dissed by our coach not too recently as a guy who can't handle the full time load. He has a chip on his shoulder. He obviously is working his ass off to prove that he can be the man. He thinks he can be. Is he not allowed to respond when these kinds of comments are made about him....especially when it seems he has worked really hard this summer to prove his doubters wrong?


FINALLY someone makes some sense! I should have known it was going to be you. Thanks SoCal.

[DivineLegion]

I thought Selvin looked like a perfect fit for our system last season. He had the Vision and the cutback ability that drives our running game. I would like everyone to take a moment and think back to how god awful our offensive line was last season...now think 5.2 YPC. What makes you think a Kid with Selvins skill set and added mass cant dominate?

I cant wait to see everyones reactions when hes starting out of camp and proves he can be an NFL running back.

[TheReverend]

I'm not sure why Selvin is getting flack in this thread. He's worked hard in the offseason, he's gained weight, he seems like he is working very hard to better himself for our benefit and he thinks he feels great going into this season. So what if he thinks he can get 2k yards? He did a nice job last year, put alot of effort into this game this summer and feels like he can be a big time player. I'm not sure what the problem is here. It's as if he shouldnt feel confident about himself or shouldn't believe he can meet really big goals, or shouldn't feel like he has taken a big step in his development due to his offseason work. Why are we ragging on this kid? So he thinks he is a "beast" now. Good for him. He'll have a chance to prove it.

Remember, this kid was dissed by our coach not too recently as a guy who can't handle the full time load. He has a chip on his shoulder. He obviously is working his ass off to prove that he can be the man. He thinks he can be. Is he not allowed to respond when these kinds of comments are made about him....especially when it seems he has worked really hard this summer to prove his doubters wrong?

I don't think that's the issue here... at least not in my case. Maybe he has increased his body mass and added a lot of weight into his hips to help himself become a "full time" RB. If so, great for him.

Why make the comments now before he's even proven himself for the top of the depth chart?

Why not take a look at a role player in a RBBC spot like Jones-Drew (who, himself, was not NEAR 2,000 APY when you discount kick returns) and set a goal to be a team-mate and large contributor like that.

Regardless, it's grating to hear a guy who not only isn't topping the depth chart at his respective spot, also isn't even a "lock" for a roster spot, and also has had HIS position addressed 2x via the draft and again in FA, make a claim that he's going to do something done only a couple times in history... by much, much more durable human beings in an era where backs carried the load.

[TheReverend]

In summation, we've all heard a LOT of BETTER running backs make the same claim to fall extremely short of the goal.

[Inkana7]

I don't think that's the issue here... at least not in my case. Maybe he has increased his body mass and added a lot of weight into his hips to help himself become a "full time" RB. If so, great for him.

Why make the comments now before he's even proven himself for the top of the depth chart?

Why not take a look at a role player in a RBBC spot like Jones-Drew (who, himself, was not NEAR 2,000 APY when you discount kick returns) and set a goal to be a team-mate and large contributor like that.

Regardless, it's grating to hear a guy who not only isn't topping the depth chart at his respective spot, also isn't even a "lock" for a roster spot, and also has had HIS position addressed 2x via the draft and again in FA, make a claim that he's going to do something done only a couple times in history... by much, much more durable human beings in an era where backs carried the load.

Once again, he never said he WILL. He said he feels like he COULD. Big difference

[TheReverend]

Once again, he never said he WILL. He said he feels like he COULD. Big difference

They all say they could. None of them that did even bothered with that.

Regardless, his chances just got much better.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

36 yards for Selvin so far. Great start.

[azbroncfan]

36 yards for Selvin so far. Great start.

Fatass has been waiting all year to bring this up. I'm sure there are some homers on this thread but who in the hell would even consider him a threat for 2000yds? He won't have 2000 yds after 2 years in the league combined.

[sixtimeseight]

36 yards for Selvin so far. Great start.

About half as many yards as LJ, for about 1/20th the cost. Works for me.

[Florida_Bronco]

About half as many yards as LJ, for about 1/20th the cost. Works for me.

Larry Johnson - 3.4 yards per carry

Selvin Young - 5.1 yards per carry

Winner? Selvin Young.

[broncosteven]

It is pretty clear Young is a change of pace back.

I don't have too much trouble with a 3 headed Monster, I watched some games from 77-81 recently they were using 4-5 guys to run the ball.

I say give it to Hillis on FB dives or draws. See what he has. Shanny gave Sapp the ball a couple times over last 2 years with some success.

[Taco John]

You can find backs like Selvin Young every year in undrafted free agency. I bet he's not even on your roster in five years - if that.

That's a good bet with any running back in the league.

I'll bet that Larry Johnson isn't on your roster in 5 years.

[Greybeard]

36 yards for Selvin so far. Great start.

I don't think Selvin minded so much. He was looking at yet another statistic:



41-14



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[Bob's your Information Minister]

That's a good bet with any running back in the league.

I'll bet that Larry Johnson isn't on your roster in 5 years.

LOL you're comparing a second-year player to someone who was drafted in 2003?

Suffice it to say Selvin Young's career won't begin to approach LJ's.

[sixtimeseight]

LOL you're comparing a second-year player to someone who was drafted in 2003?

Suffice it to say Selvin Young's career won't begin to approach LJ's.

I'd say it remains to be seen whether Selvin can put up one great year, get a huge contract and then completely break down like LJ.

[Los Broncos]

Frigging trolls I tell ya.

[Sir Mawn]

I'd say it remains to be seen whether Selvin can put up one great year, get a huge contract and then completely break down like LJ.

In all fairness, however, he's still above Selvin. I'd trade Selvin for Diaper Boy any day.

[sixtimeseight]

Not with that albatross contract I wouldn't.

[broncofan2438]

Selvin better get some better yards on Sunday or that 2000 will be well out of reach

[MO<1>]

I'm not sure why Selvin is getting flack in this thread. He's worked hard in the offseason, he's gained weight, he seems like he is working very hard to better himself for our benefit and he thinks he feels great going into this season. So what if he thinks he can get 2k yards? He did a nice job last year, put alot of effort into this game this summer and feels like he can be a big time player. I'm not sure what the problem is here. It's as if he shouldnt feel confident about himself or shouldn't believe he can meet really big goals, or shouldn't feel like he has taken a big step in his development due to his offseason work. Why are we ragging on this kid? So he thinks he is a "beast" now. Good for him. He'll have a chance to prove it.

Remember, this kid was dissed by our coach not too recently as a guy who can't handle the full time load. He has a chip on his shoulder. He obviously is working his ass off to prove that he can be the man. He thinks he can be. Is he not allowed to respond when these kinds of comments are made about him....especially when it seems he has worked really hard this summer to prove his doubters wrong?

:thumbs:

Selvin Young's swagger and postitive attitude are a GOOD thing. I appreciate someone who gives thier all every down. A lot of posters seem to want him to forecast less than the best posssible.

[Florida_Bronco]

Larry Johnson - 22 yards in the game

Selvin Young - 49 yards (more than double for the mathematically impared Chief fans) on 1 carry.

Winner? Selvin Young.

Nevermind the strength (or lack thereof) of the defense Johnson faced.

[Wes Mantooth]

I just can't wait for a 100 yard game. This throwing is fun, but I miss the clock-control running game.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

114 yards in two weeks for Selvin Young.

He is almost on track for 1,000 yards at this juncture. Better pick up the pace!

[broncofan2438]

Dont think this goal is happening

[Rock Chalk]

I dont care what you people say, I like Selvin, I think he is a good fit for this team and I hope Shanny gives him more chances to prove himself.

All the guy has ever done on the field is succeed in Denver. That's it. Last year he came in and succeeded. This year to date he has run better than anyone here has given him credit for in his limited chances.

The only words that come out of this guys mouth after the game are the team. He will take the RBBC approach. Point is, the guy wants to be a Bronco, and so far has done everything to merit being a Bronco.

This is no knock on Andre Hall who I also think is a great RB and very worthy of wearing the Blue and Orange-highlights. But for me, Selvin has proven time and time again in his short time here that he is definately worth keeping around.

[Odysseus]

Portis is one of the top running backs this year.

Sevin needs to pop for 200 yards this Sunday or a steady 125 per week. I don't see that happening.

I guess defensive teams have been gearing up their run defense all years because "it's the Broncos."

[Florida_Bronco]

Selving Young: On pace for 912 yards this season

Larry Johnson: On pace for 680 yards this season

Winner: Selvin Young

[azbroncfan]

114 yards in two weeks for Selvin Young.

He is almost on track for 1,000 yards at this juncture. Better pick up the pace!

I don't know why this is even a discussion as the only person who mentioned 2000 yds is selvin himself.

[Greybeard]

I don't know why this is even a discussion as the only person who mentioned 2000 yds is selvin himself.

Ah, give Bob a break, AZ. He's just depressed. He's not having a good year.

The only time the squaws won't lose in the first seven weeks will be the bye. :~ohyah!:



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Ah, give Bob a break, AZ. He's just depressed. He's not having a good year.

The only time the squaws won't lose in the first seven weeks will be the bye. :~ohyah!:



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well Im gonna put money down that bye squeaks a win out there.

[Florida_Bronco]

Ah, give Bob a break, AZ. He's just depressed. He's not having a good year.

The only time the squaws won't lose in the first seven weeks will be the bye. :~ohyah!:



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I disagree. The Chiefs will find a way to come out of the bye week as losers.