Obama has to denounce racist Rev again and strongly this time

[Bronco Jamus]

Good for him. He should totally distance himself from this guy.

http://news.aol.com/story/_a/obama-strongly-denounces-former-pastor/n20080429143009990054


""Whatever relationship I had with Reverend Wright has changed as a consequence of this," Obama said."

[Spider]

Meh this entire thing has been a freak show .Has nothing to do with Issues .... I am paying 4.12 cents a gallon for diesel , really dont give a rats ass what Obamas preacher has to say ....I want to hear what Obama and Hillary will do to help with fuel prices , cost of food etc .......

[Dudeskey]

Meh this entire thing has been a freak show .Has nothing to do with Issues .... I am paying 4.12 cents a gallon for diesel , really dont give a rats ass what Obamas preacher has to say ....I want to hear what Obama and Hillary will do to help with fuel prices , cost of food etc .......

No ****ing ****. I hate how the media's letting the debate go away from the issues that actually affect people.

[Bronco Jamus]

There is nothing the President or Congress can do about fuel prices. They have little to no control over the supply or demand. The only thing they or the states could do is get rid of the tax on gas.

[BABronco]

There is nothing the President or Congress can do about fuel prices. They have little to no control over the supply or demand. The only thing they or the states could do is get rid of the tax on gas.

AND invest heavily in alternative fuels .... and allow drilling up in Alaska and wherever we can drill until we have a good alternative fuel.

[Smiling Assassin27]

So you don't think that a person's judgment should be taken into account for the highest office in the land? How 'modern day American' of you. Hell, get David Duke on the ticket and just try to ignore his separatist past. Obama has demonstrated utterly poor judgment in a) hanging at this church of division for 20 years; b) carrying the divisive message with him for 20 years until he finally understands that people don't vote for black separatists; c) continuing to rationalize and justify his divisive statements ultimately ending in the crap he pulled yesterday--pulling the rip cord and sacrificing a long time friend and confidante for the sake of politics. This is poor judgement, plain and simple.

Dude's character is showing and it ain't worthy of the highest office in the land. Bush haters, please save your breath--that guy ain't worthy either. If you don't think character is an issue, then ask yourself why you lock up criminals, rip politicians for lying, and insist on being treated fairly and not ripped off at the local watering hole. Obama's a waste of space.

If a guy was known to be a compulsive liar, why would you even ask about is policy on education? By the way, it's not the media, it's Obama who continues to rant about oppression, fairness, and gun toting, God fearin' lemmings who are too dumb to realize that they're useless.

[Spider]

There is nothing the President or Congress can do about fuel prices. They have little to no control over the supply or demand. The only thing they or the states could do is get rid of the tax on gas.

Look I been in the oil patch awhile now , bull**** someone else ...... supply a demand my ass ....... I dont know why you ****s insist on getting in here and trying to bull**** ever Opec has cut production an 800,000 barrels a day , meanwhile we got enough mother ****ing oil in North Dakota , and Colorado .. oh **** it no need to go through all of this again , you be a dumb ass believe what you want .......

[broncofan7]

you guys are WAY off base--it has EVERYTHING to do with "the issues"--the issue being---why would Barack associate himself with such a raving racist , lunatic? This was not just a family friend, but a person who baptized his 2 children, the head pastor at a church that he attended. It was shocking to most of us when it came out that Barack was a member of a church that describes itself as "unapologetically black"--this is no different than if John McCain was a member of Amren.com and was a supporter, or close friend of Jared Taylor-----and if you think that the media would NOT focus on McCain's relationship with Taylor and NOT the issues then you would be dead wrong. Quite honestly I want to know if ANY of our presidential candidates had been members of groups that stand for hate and division rather than 'normal' churches or other civic groups that are not so blatantly divisive. that being said--It was about time that Obama spoke out in defiance of that race bating maggot who uder the guise of the cloth, has parlayed his hateful speech into a 10 room , multimillion dollar mansion in the Illinois burbs........

[Spider]

AND invest heavily in alternative fuels .... and allow drilling up in Alaska and wherever we can drill until we have a good alternative fuel.
Un ****ing believable .......drill up Alaska ... ****ing brilliant , Meanwhile your monkey ass is sitting on a Instu plant and over 8 million barrel a a day production out of Garfield county ...... and you want to drill up Alaska ....... Pure ****ing genius

[Smiling Assassin27]

spider prefers a communist state in which prices for the things he and only he cares about should be artificially controlled while not giving a **** about anything else. selective communism--join the cause! let the damn market do its job and quit screeching about how damn unfair it is to you.

[Spider]

So you don't think that a person's judgment should be taken into account for the highest office in the land? How 'modern day American' of you. Hell, get David Duke on the ticket and just try to ignore his separatist past. Obama has demonstrated utterly poor judgment in a) hanging at this church of division for 20 years; b) carrying the divisive message with him for 20 years until he finally understands that people don't vote for black separatists; c) continuing to rationalize and justify his divisive statements ultimately ending in the crap he pulled yesterday--pulling the rip cord and sacrificing a long time friend and confidante for the sake of politics. This is poor judgement, plain and simple.

Dude's character is showing and it ain't worthy of the highest office in the land. Bush haters, please save your breath--that guy ain't worthy either. If you don't think character is an issue, then ask yourself why you lock up criminals, rip politicians for lying, and insist on being treated fairly and not ripped off at the local watering hole. Obama's a waste of space.

If a guy was known to be a compulsive liar, why would you even ask about is policy on education? By the way, it's not the media, it's Obama who continues to rant about oppression, fairness, and gun toting, God fearin' lemmings who are too dumb to realize that they're useless.

Need to see proof Obama sat his ass in church week after week for 20 years .....

[Spider]

spider prefers a communist state in which prices for the things he and only he cares about should be artificially controlled while not giving a **** about anything else. selective communism--join the cause! let the damn market do its job and quit screeching about how damn unfair it is to you.

**** you , I dont like taking it in the ass like you do ....... so I dont like getting ****ed on fuel prices makes me a communist ? you ****ing retard......you dont have the first clue as to what you are talking about .....

[Spider]

spider prefers a communist state in which prices for the things he and only he cares about should be artificially controlled while not giving a **** about anything else. selective communism--join the cause! let the damn market do its job and quit screeching about how damn unfair it is to you.

you ****ing Idiot , do you even grasp how much fuel prices have ****ed up the economy already ?
for what ?
who in the hell do you think is profiting off of this ?

[Dudeskey]

spider prefers a communist state in which prices for the things he and only he cares about should be artificially controlled while not giving a **** about anything else. selective communism--join the cause! let the damn market do its job and quit screeching about how damn unfair it is to you.

If the market's job is to **** on the working class, they're doing a great job at it.

[Spider]

If the market's job is to **** on the working class, they're doing a great job at it.
Smiling while being assholin 27 , is a freaking Idiot ......

[BABronco]

Un ****ing believable .......drill up Alaska ... ****ing brilliant , Meanwhile your monkey ass is sitting on a Instu plant and over 8 million barrel a a day production out of Garfield county ...... and you want to drill up Alaska ....... Pure ****ing genius

Bad reading spider eh? I also said wherever the hell we can freaking drill. Take a ****ing chill pill.

[Rohirrim]

The last couple of elections in the U.S. were dominated by talk of "gay marriage" and "flag burning." Is anybody surprised by this? In the future, American elections will be a reality game show hosted by Ryan Seacrest. "Hey, yo, dawg. I found that last speech a little pitchy."

[Spider]

Bad reading spider eh? I also said wherever the hell we can freaking drill. Take a ****ing chill pill.

No why in the **** drill up ANWAR when it cost so much to ship it down here ?
Cost so much to set up ...... think

[broncofan7]

The last couple of elections in the U.S. were dominated by talk of "gay marriage" and "flag burning." Is anybody surprised by this? In the future, American elections will be a reality game show hosted by Ryan Seacrest. "Hey, yo, dawg. I found that last speech a little pitchy."

LOL--I have no doubt--it would get a higher voter turnout for sure;)

[BABronco]

No why in the **** drill up ANWAR when it cost so much to ship it down here ?
Cost so much to set up ...... think

Well if it came to it, probably be cheaper than dealing with ****ing OPEC.

[cutthemdown]

There is nothing the President or Congress can do about fuel prices. They have little to no control over the supply or demand. The only thing they or the states could do is get rid of the tax on gas.

removing that tax would do too much harm for govt revenue that goes for road repairs etc. IMO it won't be happening. I understand people are strapped right now but I agree with you Congress will never go along with a removal of the fed tax on gas.

On a state level who knows but I wouldnt expect it.

[cutthemdown]

Meh this entire thing has been a freak show .Has nothing to do with Issues .... I am paying 4.12 cents a gallon for diesel , really dont give a rats ass what Obamas preacher has to say ....I want to hear what Obama and Hillary will do to help with fuel prices , cost of food etc .......

If a man says hey this guy is my mentor and then that mentor has views people find repugnant, then it most certainly is an issue.

[BABronco]

No why in the **** drill up ANWAR when it cost so much to ship it down here ?
Cost so much to set up ...... think

Well if it came to it, probably be cheaper than dealing with ****ing OPEC.

[BABronco]

If a man says hey this guy is my mentor and then that mentor has views people find repugnant, then it most certainly is an issue.

It is an issue... but not one of the ones we should be focusing on. I think the media is feeding us this crap because none of the candidates truly have an answer for the issues that really need answers.

[BABronco]

removing that tax would do too much harm for govt revenue that goes for road repairs etc. IMO it won't be happening. I understand people are strapped right now but I agree with you Congress will never go along with a removal of the fed tax on gas.

On a state level who knows but I wouldnt expect it.

Heard on the radio that Oklahoma pays just about what everyone else pays in gas tax at the pump ... but we only use 2.5% on the roads. Not too sure if it was accurate.

[loborugger]

The last couple of elections in the U.S. were dominated by talk of "gay marriage" and "flag burning." Is anybody surprised by this? In the future, American elections will be a reality game show hosted by Ryan Seacrest. "Hey, yo, dawg. I found that last speech a little pitchy."

LOL

Can I phone in my vote for my favorite candidate all night???

[Spider]

I had an long thing printed out about opec , but I am doing some on line training ..

[Rohirrim]

LOL

Can I phone in my vote for my favorite candidate all night???

You have to wait until the candidates have completed the all-important, "Who Would You Most Like to Have a Beer With?" contest. ;D

[Bronco Jamus]

removing that tax would do too much harm for govt revenue that goes for road repairs etc. IMO it won't be happening. I understand people are strapped right now but I agree with you Congress will never go along with a removal of the fed tax on gas.

On a state level who knows but I wouldnt expect it.

No doubt. Our government can't fix the market anymore.

[cutthemdown]

Heard on the radio that Oklahoma pays just about what everyone else pays in gas tax at the pump ... but we only use 2.5% on the roads. Not too sure if it was accurate.

right so let's say they remove like 50 cents a gallon from the price of gas buy eliminating a tax. A person using 50 gallons a week would save 25 bucks. Not really enough to make a huge huge difference. The govt however loses a ton of revenue from that. I don't feel the advantage is there for the people on that one. Better to use that tax money to build high speed trains to solve the problem.

Better idea is to just make Americans buckle down, carpool, etc etc. In the end that will be good for the country. Also it wouldn't hurt to do what Bush just mentioned in a speech and set a goal to pump more oil. Say to world America because oil is in such high demand is going to pump 5 million barralls a day more.

[spdirty]

Un ****ing believable .......drill up Alaska ... ****ing brilliant , Meanwhile your monkey ass is sitting on a Instu plant and over 8 million barrel a a day production out of Garfield county ...... and you want to drill up Alaska ....... Pure ****ing genius

YES!!!!! Drill in Alaska, drill in North Dakota, drill in Colorado, drill off the gulf coast, DRILL IN MY BACKYARD FOR CHRISTS SAKES! Drill everywhere! But we can't get the votes to do it, because the ****ing liberals and McCain vote NO every ****ing time!!!!! And do what Bush wants and turn old military bases into oil refineries!!!!!!!!!! But they won't let us!

Build Nuke plants.

But bottom line, Obamas plan, Hillary's plan, and McCains plan to lower gas prices are all ****ED! And they won't work!

Suspend the nat'l gas tax, give me a ****ing break. Your talking a temporary, short term very minor break in fuel prices, with no highway funds. Unbelievably ****ing stupid.

I tell you, its gonna take $10 a gallon which will bring this country to its knees, and force the ****ing idiots in Washington to WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or it will give them new targets to blame while taking absolutely no responsibility.

I remember one of Nancy's campaign promises in '06 to lower fuel prices. Well, I'M STILL WAITIN BLTCH! Whenever your ready to implement that plan, go right ahead!

[Spider]

YES!!!!! Drill in Alaska, drill in North Dakota, drill in Colorado, drill off the gulf coast, DRILL IN MY BACKYARD FOR CHRISTS SAKES! Drill everywhere! But we can't get the votes to do it, because the ****ing liberals and McCain vote NO every ****ing time!!!!! And do what Bush wants and turn old military bases into oil refineries!!!!!!!!!! But they won't let us!
Oh Bull**** , you make this **** as you go along huh ........


But bottom line, Obamas plan, Hillary's plan, and McCains plan to lower gas prices are all ****ED! And they won't work! and drilling up Alaska is better ?

Suspend the nat'l gas tax, give me a ****ing break. Your talking a temporary, short term very minor break in fuel prices, with no highway funds. Unbelievably ****ing stupid. I know .....

I tell you, its gonna take $10 a gallon which will bring this country to its knees, and force the ****ing idiots in Washington to WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or it will give them new targets to blame while taking absolutely no responsibility. even then yo uwill have people Like Jamus and W*GS claiming it is supply and Demand .... face it , we have stupid people here ......

I remember one of Nancy's campaign promises in '06 to lower fuel prices. Well, I'M STILL WAITIN BLTCH! Whenever your ready to implement that plan, go right ahead! Joe Lieberman jumping ship put that plan in the toilet .....

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I tell you, its gonna take $10 a gallon which will bring this country to its knees, and force the ****ing idiots in Washington to WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or it will give them new targets to blame while taking absolutely no responsibility.


They're not going to "wake up" because the huge increases in oil prices on Bush's watch aren't an accident. Everything is going according to plan: America's wealth is being vacuumed out of the middle class and transferred into the coffers of ExxonMobil, Lockheed Martin, et al. The goal is to consolidate all of the nation's wealth and power in the hands of the top 1% and to reduce the rest of us to serfs.

Bush (the MBA president) doesn't represent you or your interests - he represents the interests of the oil and defense industries, and his priority is the same as that of any other CEO: to maximize profits for the aforementioned industries and their shareholders.

[peacepipe]

AND invest heavily in alternative fuels .... and allow drilling up in Alaska and wherever we can drill until we have a good alternative fuel.Yeah,the 1 penny drop in gas prices would make drilling in anwr worth it.

[peacepipe]

There is nothing the President or Congress can do about fuel prices. They have little to no control over the supply or demand. The only thing they or the states could do is get rid of the tax on gas. There is plenty they can do it's just a matter of will they do it.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Opec has cut production an 800,000 barrels a day Where did you hear this?


http://www.mees.com/Energy_Tables/crude-oil.htm

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/3681/clipboard01cy1.jpg

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

http://www.flyingsnail.com/Dahbud/images/bushell.jpg

[footstepsfrom#27]

I've come to the conclusion that the presidential election is nothing more than the media's opportunity to bring us 12 months of reality TV crap. Unfortunately most Americans are to stupid to grasp, or to lazy to work through the real issues impacting our future so they're content to follow the Jerry Springer version of politics as usual.

[Spider]

Where did you hear this?


http://www.mees.com/Energy_Tables/crude-oil.htm

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/3681/clipboard01cy1.jpg

cute chart .......... http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DE6D91330F933A05757C0A96E9482 60

[Bronco Jamus]

There is plenty they can do it's just a matter of will they do it.


For example?

[W*GS]

Where did you hear this?

Spider heard it whilst pinching off some used-up flapjacks and bacon at the truck stop.

[Spider]

Spider heard it whilst pinching off some used-up flapjacks and bacon at the truck stop.

we already know you cant google , but you seem to have a problem reading also...http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...C0A96E9482 60
you nd Ward Churchhill have alot in common .....you both make **** up as you go along

[W*GS]

That article is from 1988, ****-fer-brains.

You're the one presenting 20-year-old non-news as relevant.

Go fluck yourself.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I've come to the conclusion that the presidential election is nothing more than the media's opportunity to bring us 12 months of reality TV crap. Unfortunately most Americans are to stupid to grasp, or to lazy to work through the real issues impacting our future so they're content to follow the Jerry Springer version of politics as usual.

The thread title/topic would certainly support that argument.

[yavoon]

and the black nationalist grievance monger gets thrown under the bus. it makes me sad, really it does. here's james cone, the founder of black liberation theology:

"Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."

and you wonder where wright gets it from.

[Hogan11]

I just love how Rev. Wright is being made into such an issue whilst other religious whackjobs supporting Juan McSame like Rev. Hagee & Pat Robertson are not. ::)

[W*GS]

Unfortunately most Americans are to stupid to grasp, or to lazy to work through the real issues impacting our future so they're content to follow the Jerry Springer version of politics as usual.

Ahhhh....

A refreshing blast of left-wing elitism and contempt for their fellow citizens is always a good way to start the day.

[Bronco Jamus]

Unfortunately most Americans are to stupid to grasp, or to lazy to work through the real issues impacting our future so they're content to follow the Jerry Springer version of politics as usual.

What an awful thing to saw about your countrymen.

[Bronco Jamus]

I just love how Rev. Wright is being made into such an issue whilst other religious whackjobs supporting Juan McSame like Rev. Hagee & Pat Robertson are not. ::)

Pat Robertson is jerk also.

I don't understand the Juan reference, and I have never heard of Hagee.

[Spider]

That article is from 1988, ****-fer-brains.

You're the one presenting 20-year-old non-news as relevant.

Go fluck yourself.

here **** for Brains one from last year also . so you go **** yourself .........
http://money.cnn.com/2007/01/30/news/international/update_saudis.dj/index.htm
and here is the one I meant to post http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/03/business/worldbusiness/03opec.html......... you still havent answered the questions I asked you boy .......

[W*GS]

here **** for Brains one from last year also . so you go **** yourself .........

Your "argument" is still ****ed, ya sheep ****ing moron.

you still havent answered the questions I asked you boy .......

It's your argument, ya pud - make your own goddamned argument.

[Spider]

Your "argument" is still ****ed, ya sheep ****ing moron.[



It's your argument, ya pud - make your own goddamned argument.

you said president didnt control oil Prices you ****ing retard ........Answer the mother ****ing question you little bitch ........you got nailed on this you little twit

[Traveler]

http://www.jabberwonk.com/flinker.cfm?cliid=13lkzo

[W*GS]

you said president didnt control oil Prices you ****ing retard ........Answer the mother ****ing question you little b**** ........you got nailed on this you little twit

If you think the ****ing president controls ****ing oil prices, make a ****ing argument that shows that, you co****cking ******.

[jhat01]

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[Spider]

If you think the ****ing president controls ****ing oil prices, make a ****ing argument that shows that, you co******ing ******.

I already did you pussy ........ you have yet to refute anything ......

[Rohirrim]

Ha! This place has gone to ****.

[Dudeskey]

http://home.cinci.rr.com/imokliel/anchorman18.jpg
LOUD NOISES!!!

[W*GS]

I already did you p***Y ........ you have yet to refute anything ......

You didn't make an argument to refute, dork.

[peacepipe]

For example? Here's one, did you know that our President along with congress can put a freeze on gas prices. How about releaseing oil from the oil reserves. there is 2 examples.

[TheDave]

FWIW....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16438329 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0)

[yavoon]

Here's one, did you know that our President along with congress can put a freeze on gas prices. How about releaseing oil from the oil reserves. there is 2 examples.

yay for socialism. because price controls have never ever turned out to be bad ideas... its frightening that people would be promoting horrifically dangerous policies like these.

[Spider]

You didn't make an argument to refute, dork.

Only if you cant google ........

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

yay for socialism.

:oyvey:

Oh great - another right-wing half-wit who thinks we're better off with big business functioning like a football game with no rules and no refs (as if we haven't already seen enough examples of the disastrous results of this kind of policy.)


because price controls have never ever turned out to be bad ideas... its frightening that people would be promoting horrifically dangerous policies like these.

:rofl:

An apologist for Bushonomics/trickle down lecturing us about "bad ideas."

Too funny.

[mhgaffney]

Bronco Jamus,

Where have you been these last 10-20 years? Asleep?

Did you the hear the talk by Rev Wright?

I did -- There was nothing racist in it. He spoke the simple and unadulterated truth. Wright was spot on when he described the US attack on Iraq as terrorism. If it wasn't terrorism -- then what was it?

Apparently you are just another hypocritical American who thinks violence is perfectly OK -- so long as it's us who is dong it.

When someone else does it -- then it's terrorism.

So sad that we live in a country where you can't apeak the truth. So saad that Obama must deny the truth due to this real-politic.

It's so sad it makes me hopping mad.
MHG

[peacepipe]

yay for socialism. because price controls have never ever turned out to be bad ideas... its frightening that people would be promoting horrifically dangerous policies like these.Is that the best you can come up with,implying that our government doing something about gas prices is "socialism". Explain how it is dangerous for our government to step in & do something about gas prices?

[Spider]

Hell make the oil companies like the utility companies .....

[W*GS]

Only if you cant google ........

I can't Google " ", asshole.

[Spider]

I can't Google " ", a-hole.

you can think either loser

[yavoon]

Is that the best you can come up with,implying that our government doing something about gas prices is "socialism". Explain how it is dangerous for our government to step in & do something about gas prices?

price caps are moronic, their idiocy is documented thoroughly and the disastrous results are hilarious. so long as they don't happen to you.

yes the government should develop longterm energy plans, on all fronts. but no we should not adopt moronic socialist policies to pander to morons who merely wish to destroy our entire economy while imagining they are chavez.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Is that the best you can come up with,implying that our government doing something about gas prices is "socialism". Explain how it is dangerous for our government to step in & do something about gas prices?

:yep:

Ironic isn't it?

Mention measures like windfall profits taxes, eliminating government subsidies, closing tax loopholes, and policing corruption in reference to Big Oil, and neocon Kool-Aid chuggers like Yvonne start bleating "socialism" (when the policy they support is the most blatant example of corporate socialism imaginable.)

Yvonne and his ilk are paradigm examples of the effects of corporate media brainwashing.