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Dedhed
04-29-2008, 05:11 AM
As I look back on the weekend that was consumed by the NFL draft, I wonder if I've learned anything. Either about myself, or the team that I love to follow. After a little consideration I think there are a couple of things that I can take from the experience.

The first thing I'll take from the weekend is humility. I went into the weekend thinking that I knew a thing or two about the players that were available, and fancied myself a knowledgable armchair draft guru because I've sifted through many of the scouting websites out there. As I sat there listening to names of players I've never heard of come of the board in the third round I began to see that the knowledge you can gain about these players from youtube and nfldraftcountdown is almost insignificant compared to paid professionals who are on the raod all year long watching these players in person, and then spending hour upon hour watching full game tapes in slow motion and stop-action.

A professional scout probably learns more about Ryan Clady before lunch than I have been able to learn in an entire off-season from my living room. As GM of the Broncos I would have been thrilled to get Josh Barrett and Wesley Woodyard, but I would have spent a 4th and a 5th rounder on them. Then I watch as every team in the league passes on them multiple times and we get both players for a grand total of a 7th round pick. I fall in love with youtube clips and then get angry as I watch the Broncos pass on a guy and I think "what am I missing here"? Well the answer to that is that I'm missing more information than I could probably ever realize unless I paked up the bus and became a scout myself.

I learned something about the Denver Broncos and Mike Shanahan this weekend also. I learned that they're tired of underachieving soft-tails in orange and blue. The over-riding attribute of every player taken in this draft is that they love to play football, and play the game with passion and heart. It's an age old adage, but one that is still often overlooked in an era where stopwatches and yard sticks can blind you.

The Broncos have lacked heart in recent memory. They flat out gave up in a few games last year, and that speaks directly to the character of the players on the field. The Broncos have gone a long way this off-season towards putting some heart back in that uniform, and I for one could not be happier about it. I don't care if there are teams out there who came away with more talent or more potential than the Broncos did. The Broncos added more heart and passion for the game this weekend than any other franchise in football, and I think in the long run that could be a greater upgrade for this franchise than all the talent in the world.

It takes heart to sit on the practice squad and scout team every day and still work to make yourself and those around you better. It takes heart to be nothing more than a special teamer and still give everything you have during those few seconds you get to see the field. It takes heart to win tough football games and Championships; well the Broncos got some heart this weekend, and I'm looking forward to seeing it on the field on Sundays.

JCMElway
04-29-2008, 09:04 AM
Outstanding post. Could not have said it better myself. Awesome job.

Anyone whining about this draft needs to read and reread this thread starter.

Rohirrim
04-29-2008, 09:12 AM
:thumbsup: Rep, Dedhed. I couldn't agree more. It is a humbling experience. I've always believed that if I was a GM, one philosophy would guide me: Get guys who would play this game for free if there was no other choice.

jonny1
04-29-2008, 09:20 AM
Rep, dedhed!!!


:thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:

socalorado
04-29-2008, 09:27 AM
REP! DEADHEAD!

"I learned something about the Denver Broncos and Mike Shanahan this weekend also. I learned that they're tired of underachieving soft-tails in orange and blue. The over-riding attribute of every player taken in this draft is that they love to play football, and play the game with passion and heart. It's an age old adage, but one that is still often overlooked in an era where stopwatches and yard sticks can blind you. "

I have been posting articles about alot of the guys we took, and the above paragraph sums up all of the players DEN drafted.

Heres a article i found on our new LB Spencer Larsen. I posted it on his thread, but for the sake of DEAHEADS excellent post.
I will post it here to sort of support his statement.

http://cle.scout.com/2/744136.html
<TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD class=storytitle colSpan=3>Sobo's Players of Interest #4: Spencer Larsen </TD></TR><TR><TD class=primaryimage vAlign=top>http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/36/365172.jpg


</TD><TD noWrap width=3></TD><TD vAlign=top><TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=4 width="60%" bgColor=#f5f5f5 border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD vAlign=center noWrap>By Brent Sobleski (http://javascript<b></b>:location.href='http://search.scout.com/a.z?s=149&p=4&c=1&search=1&sskey=%22' + escape('Brent Sobleski') + '%22&sssiteid=149';)
OBR Draft Analyst
Posted Apr 6, 2008

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Looking for a mid to late-round linebacker who will arrive ready to play? Look no further.

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Spencer Larsen (http://cle.scout.com/a.z?s=149&p=8&c=1&nid=3070458) MLB Arizona (http://arizona.scout.com/)<O:P></O:P>
SOBO SEZ: Mature. Productive. Nasty. These are words that describe the linebacker prospect Spencer Larsen. He's a player any apiring football prospect should look up to learn how things should be done “the right way”.
Off the field, Larsen is a practicing Mormon, married, and has already started a family. On the field, he plays with mean streak and makes tackle after tackle after tackle. The 6' 1", 239-pound linebacker led the Pac 10 conference this season with 131 total tackles, 15.5 of which were for a loss, and registered 4 sacks.
Ball carriers have to be wary because the former Wildcat comes to tackle with bad intentions. The strongest part of his game is his ability to diagnose a developing play and work his way downhill.
Still, the Larsen's overall athleticism could be described generously as "limited". Recently, though, Larsen displayed a 4.29 short shuttle at the Arizona pro day. The time was as good as some cornerbacks in this draft, and it is evident Larsen is quick and explosive in small areas.
The short area quickness and physical nature of his game could make him an ideal fit as a 3-4 inside linebacker. The workouts also follow a very good performance at this year’s East/West Shrine Game where Larsen was named Most Valuable Player.
The former Arizona star is a slightly older prospect than most, and is already 24 years of age. Like recent Browns offensive lineman Kirk Chambers (http://cle.scout.com/a.z?s=149&p=8&c=1&nid=3661898), Larsen spent two years away from the gridiron doing missionary work. Teams will fall in love with Larsen’s intangibles and will be pleasantly surprised by the player that completes the package even as a potential late round prospect. <O:P></O:P>

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GoHAM
04-29-2008, 09:53 AM
Awesome post Dedhed!!!!

Kaylore
04-29-2008, 10:05 AM
That was a great post. I think if people saw what scouts go through (living on the road, staying in crappy hotels and watching obscure colleges, talking to endless coaches and sifting through their BS) they would appreciate how difficult it is to get a bead on these guys. What's interesting is how guys fall - that doesn't mean that one team is "stupid" but that several teams know a certain player is only worth a certain grade and moves on.

Smelvin
04-29-2008, 10:05 AM
OUTSTANDING post!

One of the best I've read in a long time on this forum. I enjoy reading the mane, but the know-it-all arrogance many self proclaimed "draft pundits" have on this board continuously cracks me up. People feel like they know more than professionals who are paid to evaluate talent...and it's flat out comical.

Again, great post!

Northman
04-29-2008, 10:10 AM
Excellent post and right on the money. REP

broncoblue
04-29-2008, 10:19 AM
as true as it is there will ,no are people on here who know best...hahahha













or at least think they do

bronco_diesel
04-29-2008, 10:23 AM
good post!

jsco70
04-29-2008, 11:03 AM
That is a very good post with excellent points.

However, I'm not calling you or anyone else out specifically, but I have to say I don't know why an "average Joe" armed with a College Football TV Package, Youtube, a draft guide and print out of Mel Kipers Final Mock would expect to know as much as paid professional scout.

On the bright side, it leads to some seriously funny, others insanely irritating, posts from forum members who think they know it all and think they could do a better job. Which obviously leads to the question, why aren't you in the war room as opposed to the chat room on draft day?

Cmac821
04-29-2008, 11:33 AM
nice!

cmhargrove
04-29-2008, 11:43 AM
REP! DEADHEAD!

"I learned something about the Denver Broncos and Mike Shanahan this weekend also. I learned that they're tired of underachieving soft-tails in orange and blue. The over-riding attribute of every player taken in this draft is that they love to play football, and play the game with passion and heart. It's an age old adage, but one that is still often overlooked in an era where stopwatches and yard sticks can blind you. "

I have been posting articles about alot of the guys we took, and the above paragraph sums up all of the players DEN drafted.

Heres a article i found on our new LB Spencer Larsen. I posted it on his thread, but for the sake of DEAHEADS excellent post.
I will post it here to sort of support his statement.

http://cle.scout.com/2/744136.html
<TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD class=storytitle colSpan=3>Sobo's Players of Interest #4: Spencer Larsen </TD></TR><TR><TD class=primaryimage vAlign=top>http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/36/365172.jpg


</TD><TD noWrap width=3></TD><TD vAlign=top><TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=4 width="60%" bgColor=#f5f5f5 border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD vAlign=center noWrap>By Brent Sobleski (http://javascript<b></b>:location.href='http://search.scout.com/a.z?s=149&p=4&c=1&search=1&sskey=%22' + escape('Brent Sobleski') + '%22&sssiteid=149';)
OBR Draft Analyst
Posted Apr 6, 2008

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Looking for a mid to late-round linebacker who will arrive ready to play? Look no further.

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Spencer Larsen (http://cle.scout.com/a.z?s=149&p=8&c=1&nid=3070458) MLB Arizona (http://arizona.scout.com/)<O:P></O:P>
SOBO SEZ: Mature. Productive. Nasty. These are words that describe the linebacker prospect Spencer Larsen. He's a player any apiring football prospect should look up to learn how things should be done “the right way”.
Off the field, Larsen is a practicing Mormon, married, and has already started a family. On the field, he plays with mean streak and makes tackle after tackle after tackle. The 6' 1", 239-pound linebacker led the Pac 10 conference this season with 131 total tackles, 15.5 of which were for a loss, and registered 4 sacks.
Ball carriers have to be wary because the former Wildcat comes to tackle with bad intentions. The strongest part of his game is his ability to diagnose a developing play and work his way downhill.
Still, the Larsen's overall athleticism could be described generously as "limited". Recently, though, Larsen displayed a 4.29 short shuttle at the Arizona pro day. The time was as good as some cornerbacks in this draft, and it is evident Larsen is quick and explosive in small areas.
The short area quickness and physical nature of his game could make him an ideal fit as a 3-4 inside linebacker. The workouts also follow a very good performance at this year’s East/West Shrine Game where Larsen was named Most Valuable Player.
The former Arizona star is a slightly older prospect than most, and is already 24 years of age. Like recent Browns offensive lineman Kirk Chambers (http://cle.scout.com/a.z?s=149&p=8&c=1&nid=3661898), Larsen spent two years away from the gridiron doing missionary work. Teams will fall in love with Larsen’s intangibles and will be pleasantly surprised by the player that completes the package even as a potential late round prospect. <O:P></O:P>

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SureShot
04-29-2008, 11:58 AM
Word and REP!

no-pseudo-fan
04-29-2008, 12:05 PM
Great post!!!

I feel the same way. These guys know everything about these players. Injuries from the Jungle Gym are know by these teams. You can not measure a man's heart and love for the game, and that is what really matters.

I man that sacrifaces to play this game is alright with me.

dbfan21
04-29-2008, 12:26 PM
Nice work, Dedhead! I couln't have said it better myself. :thumbsup:

Go Broncos!