How does the trade effects Den draft

[llayne]

Prior to the trade I thought it was possible Denver, would surprise some people and move up to draft a DT. There seems to be an abundance of offensive tackles in the draft and not many high quality DT's. Anyway, now with a new DT on broad I look for the broncos to team him up with Thomas at DT. I think the offense will end up with Kuper at RT(Pears is better at LT then he is at RT) and I think we either draft a LT or maybe the Virginia kid. I do not see us going Defense unless Ellis or Dorsey slip into easy trading range or we trade back in the draft.

The only offensive position besides lineman I see in the 1st is a RB, and we know they considered Morroney(sp) the kid in NE. We have Henry and I think Young and Hall are great change of pace players. However, the way the Broncos burn RB's there is no such thing as enough depth.

That being said I see us taking is a lineman. Widereciver has no value and we now have depth due to our recent sighnings. We have a great TE combo. No QB need. The offesnive line needs depth because Nalan and Hamilton might not last long. I see Albert(kid from Virginia) being the pick because he could maybe play LT and he could slide into guard and be a powerhouse if Hamilton moves to C next year. Infact, the combo of Kuper, Holland, Albert, Hamilton, and perhaps Harris could be our forseeable future. If Albert is not available and Williams is, I give him the nod over clady.

Otherwise, I think focus will be on the defense in this draft. More DT depth, saftey, and maybe another DB. I think we need another LB for special teams. I see the team taking a shotgun approach with DT's and trying as many as they can. Even if we trade down, I only see us taking a k, and returner and a offensive lineman and the rest being used on the defense.

Attack away,

[NFLBRONCO]

Ha! This paves way for McFadden trade up.

[Punisher]

I think this trade won't effect the draft,Denver has been trying to make this deal go threw since the start of the offseason.I think they will go as plan for the draft whatever that plan may be...

[Gcver2ver3]

i believe we'll go either OT or RB with the #12 pick (which meaans we'll prolly go LB)...

of course i won't rule out the possibility of us trading the pick either...

in the 2nd round i think we'll go LB or OT...

2nd day i think will be devoted to defense and ST...

[SoCalBronco]

I think a DT will probably be selected with one of our 4th rounders, as Robertson and Thomas both have major questions and you still need to establish a little depth in any case to have a decent 3 or 4 man rotation.

[llayne]

I have a feeling the trade now means we have our starters at DT. We now need depth. I have a sinking feeling the Broncos draft a LB at 12, but it just defies logic at this point in time. Not after those two signings. We have singed people at almost every position of weekness, except the OL unless you count the cheif signing. Other positions we have singed multiple players to remedy the problom. We have singed...3 WRs and now might have our 5 right now. Marshall, Jackson, Collbert, Parker, Stokley.

LB needs depth, maybe the draft Mayo and let him sit a season. However, the team does not seem to be able to afford a luxary like that right now. They need impact players who can start. RB fits that mold and maybe they think one of these lineman can pull it off, or they are willing to wait on that one.

Damnit....where is Wrabbit when you need him......

[Bronco Billy]

What about DT, Trevor Laws from Notre Dame in the 2nd Round? His attributes look impressive: quick, best asset is his non-stop motor, etc. Had over 100 tackles last year and 6 blocked kicks in his career.

Analysis
Positives: Has a shorter-than-ideal frame, but has a thick bone structure with long arms, large hands, wide waist and hips, thick thighs and calves, very good chest, shoulder and arm muscle development...Has outstanding strength, evident in his hand punch, and excels at using his upper-body power to slap away reach blocks on a consistent basis...Physical bull rusher who plays with a non-stop motor...Has a sudden burst off the snap and is constantly working his hands to gain position in attempts to split double teams...Plays at a low pad level, showing the lateral range to make plays down the line...Has the functional speed to pressure the pocket and takes good angles to close once he gains penetration...Despite his size, he would be a nice fit for the three-technique due to his natural quickness flowing to the ball, hand placement and lower-body strength that he uses to get off the snap to collapse the pocket...Showed marked improvement as a pass rusher, using a quick swim move to gain advantage over the outside shoulder fo a lineman...Quick enough to slant and has a nifty spin move when locked on...Has the functional strength to anchor and is combative vs. combo blocks (just needs to keep blockers off his body to have success)...Showed better ability at left end than inside in attempts to get in the gaps and disrupt the pocket...Plays quick, not fast, but does a good job of reading and reacting to blocks and movement when he is on the move than when anchoring inside...When he locates the ball, he will flash good reaction and urgency to close on the play...Better playing on the move than when sitting and reading...Has the functional burst to catch ballcarriers from behind...As a "three" technique, he is much better controlling inside action when he keeps his pads down...Can split the double teams from the B-gap, but will struggle some in the A-gap...Uses his hands effectively to control and shed (when blockers latch on to him first, he will get washed out of the play)...When he chases from sideline to sideline, he refuses to give up on a play...Has some problems getting through traffic, but gives good chase from the back side...Does best on twists and games as a pass rusher and can generate a surge on the pocket...Does a nice job of getting his hands up to deflect passes or block kicks...Showed as a senior that he has learned how to throw a lot of motion at blockers to get a push off the snap...Likes to power through blocks, but has improved a bit with his attempts to maintain separation and get rid of the blocker with arm-over action on the pass rush...Takes dead aim on the quarterback once he beats the blocker off the line and has the burst to bend and close coming off edge (will struggle when having to shoot inside gaps and is better when on the outside shoulder of the blocker).

Negatives: Has a strong hand punch and does a good job with his swim move to slip past offensive linemen, but while he keeps his hands active, he struggles to disengage when blockers get their hands into his jersey...Plays with good field vision, but his lack of height causes him to get caught up in trash, losing sight of the ball when playing in a crowd...Size issues hurt him when playing in the gap, making him a liability at nose guard...Has a feel for pressure, but doesn't react to it all of the time...Shows only adequate ability to control the line of scrimmage and anchor (gets blocked one-on-one inside and does not shed quick enough to recover)...Doesn't use natural leverage and when he gets too narrow in his base, he shows marginal ability to defeat blocks...Is an adequate pass rusher at the "three" technique, but struggles inside as a zero- or one-tech bull rusher...Gets good hand position and uses them for leverage but, despite decent strength, he doesn't play strong enough to hold off blockers or anchor inside.

Compares To: KELLY GREGG-Baltimore...Like Gregg, Laws was a standout wrestler during his prep days and uses that physical nature and active hands to compensate for a lack of size. He will struggle to penetrate from the A-gap, but is a disruptive defender with a good feel for blocking pressure. He has the strong anchor to stack and shed and with his upper-body strength, he has become very good at driving the ballcarrier back through the rush lane. A classic overachiever, size limits Laws as a gap player, but he has the lateral range and good concept for taking angles to be disruptive once he slips into the backfield.

[Atlas]

I saw that Williams had a wonderlik score of 32 while Clady's was 17. All things being equal it might be better in the long run to draft Williams.

[Play2win]

I wonder if they go Mayo, and make a real good push at ceasing up the run D.

I still hope it is the MendingHaus...

[Play2win]

I saw that Williams had a wonderlik score of 32 while Clady's was 17. All things being equal it might be better in the long run to draft Williams.

amen

[footstepsfrom#27]

Williams is the clear choice IMO IF he is still there at 12, and I'm not sure he will be. I could live with a true franchise back at this spot if Williams and Clady are both gone, though I wouldn't mind Brandon Albert to much. As long as we don't reach for the BC tackle that high, draft Keith Rivers or pick a receiver like D. Jackson I'll probably be content. If I had my way, we'd get Williams and then move up higher in the early 2nd in order to get Mayo if he's there. He's rising fast so he may actually be gone as early as 15 or so. The worst mistake we could make is Rivers though. That guy has Mike Croel written all over him.

[chickennob2]

I likethe idea of Laws in the second. Thomas and Robertson both have a lot of question marks. We don't need a Pat Simms "great potential" type, we need a guy with a lower ceiling who will give 100% every play. Basically, with all these question marks, we need a sure thing. Thats what Laws is, not physically gifted, but a motor guy who will give you consistent effort.

[NFLBRONCO]

I'd expect MLB S WR KR type before DT now at 42.

[llayne]

I really hope we get Willaims if we stay at 12. The wonderlick score makes me really nervous about Clady. I also really like how that pick lets us put Kuper at RT. I could deal with a franchise running back, but I think if we can address the O line a bid then we could really afford Culter sometime. Our problom last year was that Pears was playing out of position(he was fine at LT the year prior...not jaw drowing exceptional but good) and that Lepsis just never came back to his old self. The other pick I really like is the Albert pick for reasons already discussed.

For DT depth, I think they still take at least 2 if not 3 DT from this draft. Injuries happen. Depth is needed. The ND kid Bronco Billy mentioned seems like he would be a great guy to have. He would push the other DT and him and the Chowder kid seem like "blue collar lunch pill" type guys. Always good to have one or two for depth.

Mayo would be awsome in the second. If we could get another second, without givng up too much we could really benifit. maybe Conner and a retruner. or a DT and retruner.

[montrose]

I hope the Broncos still draft at least two DT's. If we can learn anything from the Giants, Patriots, Chargers, Colts, etc. - it's that you need to consistently draft OL and DL every year regardless of how much talent you have at the position. This is for a number of reasons including: 1) OL and DL play generally dictates who wins the game 2) Talent at those positions is scarce and valuable 3) Injuries nearly always occur at those spots 4) Teams will pay so much for those positions, it's difficult to keep the same group together.

Considering the question marks surrounding Robertson and Thomas, and the lack of talent behind them at a critical position - it would be wise to bring in an influx of new talent in the hopes fortifying the position as a strength. While Robertson's arrival completely eliminates the chances of going with a DT in round 1, I hope the Broncos still consider taking a DT in round 2 if Jackson or Phillips hasn't slipped. My personal preference would be for the Broncos to take a DT in round 2, and possibly 2 more later in the draft using the team's influx of 2nd day picks. If we could hit on 2 of the 3 DT's, we'd actually have a serviceable rotation with Robertson, Thomas, McKinley and the rookies.

As far as how the trade will likely effect the draft, I believe it narrows the Broncos 1st round options to OT, RB or LB. I would love to believe all of the talk that the Broncos are actually going to take an OT in round 1 but still have the sneaking suspicion it's a smokescreen and we'll be going OT later in the draft. As far as taking a DT, my guess is we'll take one in the 4th round but I hope we invest more into the position despite the arrival of Robertson.

[Dukes]

One note about Chris Williams. He was on ESPN radio yesterday and is really well spoken, no surprise seeing his high wonderlik score. He's also married, that tells me two things. He's much more mature than most his age, and will not be out at 4am like some on the team. I was hoping we take Mendenhall, but after hearing Williams speak he's my guy.

[socalorado]

Just my gut feeling, but i think Shanny is going to go Mendenhall or Stewart. I think he wants a big time playmaker and he knows he can get the OT/OL in the 2nd.
I see Sam Baker or as much as i hate to admit it, Carl Nicks coming to town. Shanny could care less about his off field issues, which i also have read were waay overboard. This approach still gets DEN a big time superstar in the making, and addresses the o-line as well.

[llayne]

Dukes...the team could use a solid guy like Williams. Someone who will be makng the news for the RIGHT reasons. He just seems like a guy you can not go wrong with. I think he his becoming my top choice. Plus I like the fact he played in the SEC. The maturity makes it seem likley he could become a leader on this team, and this team rightnow needs all the leadership it can get. Then the fact that Nalan will be gone soon and the importance of offenie line leadership really compounds itself.

Montose, I would love Philips in the second if possible or Jackson. Barring that I just want lineman. I could not agree more on your point of OL and DL. You never know what you are going to get there, and you are never really set. With free agency, you always need guys who are able to step in and replace the guys you loose. Of course it would be nice to keep some of our DL. Lets hope the Broncos do not just keep playing the let the DE walk away game....how is Haywood and Berry doing these days anyway?

[Merlin]

Please say no to a RB at 12. It is a deep draft and Denver does quite well picking them. There will be good picks in the 4th. OL or move down pick safety or Mike. If he really wants Desean, move to the bottom third of the first and get a third and a fourth to use for another OL and DT.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Carl Nicks coming to town. Shanny could care less about his off field issues, .

I think (hope) that trend might be ending. Bowlen has been very outspoken about character and problems in the locker room. Rod Smith, Champ and Cutler have also spoken out in public about that problem. Even Shanahan has been mentioning it in his press conferences since last year.

[rugbythug]

I still think williams is the guy in the first with Chris Johnson in the 2nd. Johnson has Shanny dreaming up game plans already.

[NaptownChief]

I would say it only effects it for 2009 when you guys give up a late round pick for this big turd. ;D

[lex]

I think this trade means we are far less likely to draft a DT at 42. I think you will see come combination of OL, RB, or MLB in the first two rounds. I can see us taking a WR, MLB, or DT with our first pick in the 4th. Tough to say though. I have a bad feeling there are going to be a few WTF moments.

[cmhargrove]

I still think williams is the guy in the first with Chris Johnson in the 2nd. Johnson has Shanny dreaming up game plans already.

Please, please call Shanahan and tell him this.

We need OT depth, Williams is that guy.

Chris Johnson is no "power back," but we already have that. Line him up in the slot, as a wideout, in the backfield, put him in motion. throw him screens, have him return kicks. He could be a poor man's Reggie Bush, and in the second round the price is right. Plus, he's ass-chappin' fast!

[mattob14]

I hope the Broncos still draft at least two DT's. If we can learn anything from the Giants, Patriots, Chargers, Colts, etc. - it's that you need to consistently draft OL and DL every year regardless of how much talent you have at the position. This is for a number of reasons including: 1) OL and DL play generally dictates who wins the game 2) Talent at those positions is scarce and valuable 3) Injuries nearly always occur at those spots 4) Teams will pay so much for those positions, it's difficult to keep the same group together.

Considering the question marks surrounding Robertson and Thomas, and the lack of talent behind them at a critical position - it would be wise to bring in an influx of new talent in the hopes fortifying the position as a strength. While Robertson's arrival completely eliminates the chances of going with a DT in round 1, I hope the Broncos still consider taking a DT in round 2 if Jackson or Phillips hasn't slipped. My personal preference would be for the Broncos to take a DT in round 2, and possibly 2 more later in the draft using the team's influx of 2nd day picks. If we could hit on 2 of the 3 DT's, we'd actually have a serviceable rotation with Robertson, Thomas, McKinley and the rookies.

As far as how the trade will likely effect the draft, I believe it narrows the Broncos 1st round options to OT, RB or LB. I would love to believe all of the talk that the Broncos are actually going to take an OT in round 1 but still have the sneaking suspicion it's a smokescreen and we'll be going OT later in the draft. As far as taking a DT, my guess is we'll take one in the 4th round but I hope we invest more into the position despite the arrival of Robertson.

This is pretty much right on, imo. We don't HAVE to focus on WR, DT, S, or LB early now, leaving OT as the one big area of need. I think we'll address that early, then go BPA in round 2 as the team looks to add a playmaker (Jackson, Phillips, Chris Johnson, or possibly Hardy fill the bill). In the later rounds, I think we'll grab multiple DT's and hope one works out. Kicker/Punter, RB, and a LB will likely be addressed on day 2 as well (although I wouldn't be surprised to see a LB in round 2 either).