Broncos need to come away with three starters from Draft

[dragondawg]

Broncos need strength in numbers
By Jim Armstrong
The Denver Post

Enough already with speculating about the identity of the Broncos' first-round draft choice.

Sure, it's fun. But, far more often than not, it's an exercise in futility. I quit trying the year the Broncos selected George Foster in Round One, sending media types scurrying through draft guides to figure out who he was.

In case you hadn't noticed, the Broncos' track record in the first round is, to be kind, spotty. Or maybe the names Willie Middlebrooks and Marcus Nash don't ring a bell.

It isn't about the first round. It's about the entire draft, from top to bottom. To wit: Brandon Marshall, the Broncos' best wide receiver, was a fourth-rounder. And Tom Nalen, a future Ring of Famer, if not Hall of Famer, was a seventh-rounder.

Don't focus on the first round. It's those other rounds, the mid-to-late rounds, that separate the great teams from the ordinary ones. And the Broncos have plenty of those kinds of picks. Denver owns nine picks, one in the first, second and sixth rounds, and two in the fourth, fifth and seventh rounds.

It's just an opinion, but, for this draft to be successful, the Broncos need to come away with three starters out of those nine selections. Three starters, three impact players, three fixtures in the lineup for years to come.

Anything more than that would be a bonus.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_9015334

[TheReverend]

Sooooo... he's expecting a 100% success rate and anything else would be a bonus?

Is a 150% success rate bonus..?

[tsiguy96]

Sooooo... he's expecting a 100% success rate and anything else would be a bonus?

Is a 150% success rate bonus..?

no, hes expecting a 33% success rate..

[CHANGSTER]

Oh no...do starting kickers and punters count?

[TheReverend]

no, hes expecting a 33% success rate..

"Three starters, three impact players, three fixtures in the lineup for years to come."

That's hitting on every pick, actually...

Oh wait, I read that wrong.

They only want three...

Lol, I thought that read three starters, three rotational impact players and three developmental projects.

Nevermind. Nothing to see here, move along.

[Taco John]

Well hell, Jim! Why stop at three?

The Broncos should get at least 8 starters from this draft, two servicable veterans (trades), and at least one new hot cheerleader...

TWO. Two new hot cheerleaders.

[Taco John]

Remember when Kiszla wanted Shanahan to trade the entire draft for Roy Williams... LMAO

[footstepsfrom#27]

Three starters isn't much to expect. A 1st and 2nd round pick ought ot both start and that leaves the rest of the draft to find just one sleeper. I'd say I want 4 or more starters. It's not like there aren't holes to fill here.

[cutthemdown]

I'd be happy with one good starter, on avg starter, one great special teamer and 1 good bkup.

[cutthemdown]

Three starters isn't much to expect. A 1st and 2nd round pick ought ot both start and that leaves the rest of the draft to find just one sleeper. I'd say I want 4 or more starters. It's not like there aren't holes to fill here.

if we ever got 4 good players per draft we wouldn't be in this hole.

[cutthemdown]

Remember when Kiszla wanted Shanahan to trade the entire draft for Roy Williams... LMAO

So who did we draft that yr?

DJ Williams-avg nfl linebacker
Tatum Bell-journeyman 1000 yrd yr
Jeremy Lesuer- yeah don't get too excited about 3rd round picks KC lol
Jeff Shoat- STRIIIIIKE 2
Triandos Luke- Cool name, bad football player
Josh Sewell- Hmmmmm who? I guess he played center
Matt Mauk-meh
Brandon Miree-got injured if i rem right

[cutthemdown]

like I said I wouldn't hope for 4 starters lol.

[TheReverend]

So who did we draft that yr?

DJ Williams-avg nfl linebacker
Tatum Bell-journeyman 1000 yrd yr
Jeremy Lesuer- yeah don't get too excited about 3rd round picks KC lol
Jeff Shoat- STRIIIIIKE 2
Triandos Luke- Cool name, bad football player
Josh Sewell- Hmmmmm who? I guess he played center
Matt Mauk-meh
Brandon Miree-got injured if i rem right

Don't forget the great Bradlee Van Pelt

[TheReverend]

like I said I wouldn't hope for 4 starters lol.

Last year saw only 4 selections and within 2 years all 4 will probably be starters.

[cutthemdown]

Don't forget the great Bradlee Van Pelt

Not to mention I left off the immortal Darius Watts.

[cutthemdown]

Last year saw only 4 selections and within 2 years all 4 will probably be starters.

I'm not holding my breath but I agree last couple of Broncos drafts were a lot better. Hopefully that means we will be getting better.

I'm not sure though that all 4 of them will be starters. We will know a lot more this yr about Crowder and Moss, Thomas and Harris. At this point none of them are sure fire good starters in the NFL. I said good nfl starters not just guys we start because we have no one else.

We will see though I hope you are right. If all 4 of those guys played will this yr Broncos would probably be good.

[TheReverend]

I'm not holding my breath but I agree last couple of Broncos drafts were a lot better. Hopefully that means we will be getting better.

I'm not sure though that all 4 of them will be starters. We will know a lot more this yr about Crowder and Moss, Thomas and Harris. At this point none of them are sure fire good starters in the NFL. I said good nfl starters not just guys we start because we have no one else.

We will see though I hope you are right. If all 4 of those guys played will this yr Broncos would probably be good.

Moss played much better than I expected while healthy last year. I think he has a very good chance to leave camp starting RDE putting Ekuban in rotation with him and Engleberger and Dumervil in pass rushing spots. I also think Crowder will be making a big push for LDE. Marcus Thomas already has several starts under his belt. If the articles on Harris aren't the annual off-season fluff, there's a good chance he's starting the season whether we draft depth at T or not.

Nine picks... I figure I can get excited about the first two rounds immediately (minus one year if any are offensive line) and any special teamers on the second day. The rest of the picks won't be contributing until mid-season at the earliest (even standouts Marshall and Elvis took that long on average), and will look forward to them pitching in regularly in 2010.

[peacepipe]

So who did we draft that yr?

DJ Williams-avg nfl linebacker
Tatum Bell-journeyman 1000 yrd yr
Jeremy Lesuer- yeah don't get too excited about 3rd round picks KC lol
Jeff Shoat- STRIIIIIKE 2
Triandos Luke- Cool name, bad football player
Josh Sewell- Hmmmmm who? I guess he played center
Matt Mauk-meh
Brandon Miree-got injured if i rem right
He was better than average his rookie year when he was playing WLB,which is his natural spot.

[TheReverend]

He was better than average his rookie year when he was playing WLB,which is his natural spot.

Please define "natural spot" in regards to DJ Williams.

[Popcorn Sutton]

Don't forget the great Bradlee Van Pelt

He did score that infamous TD against KC.... !Booya!

[Broncojef]

So who did we draft that yr?

DJ Williams-avg nfl linebacker
Tatum Bell-journeyman 1000 yrd yr
Jeremy Lesuer- yeah don't get too excited about 3rd round picks KC lol
Jeff Shoat- STRIIIIIKE 2
Triandos Luke- Cool name, bad football player
Josh Sewell- Hmmmmm who? I guess he played center
Matt Mauk-meh
Brandon Miree-got injured if i rem right

I would have rather had Roy Williams than that list, matter of fact most years adding one or two top shelf starters would have been a better strategy than the guys we got. We could spend our cap on drafts instead of the FA parade of non-performers.

[fdf]

if we ever got 4 good players per draft we wouldn't be in this hole.

Succinct and right.

[BroncoFiend]

At first I wanted to say the article was ridiculous. Three NFL starters in a draft is a tall order. But the last two years we have done that and more.

With Cutler, Scheffler, Marshall, Dumervill and Kuper all starting (and darn good starters at that) from '06 and Moss, Crowder, Harris, and Thomas either starters or likely soon-to-be starters the bar is set pretty high for this class.

Whatever happens this year though, that '06 class is the type of draft championship teams are made of. That is a fantastic group of players to come from one class.

[no-pseudo-fan]

3 starters is a realistic expectation, IMO.

1st round- J-Stewart RB (Starter)
2nd round- Gosder Cherilus RT (Starter)
4th Round- Beau Bell MLB (potential Starter)
4th Round- Owen Schmitt FB (Starter)
5th Round- Frank Okam DT (potential Starter)
5th Round- Durant Brooks P (Starter)
6th Round- Tommy Blake DE/OLB(Beast, if gets it together)
7th Round- Taylor Meklhaff K (Potential Starter)
7th Round- Davone Bess WR

I think we can address some positions that are good that could be better, and add a lot more talent in the draft. I don't like mock drafts, so this is not one, just an example of how 3 starters is very realistic.

[socalorado]

3 starters is a realistic expectation, IMO.

1st round- J-Stewart RB (Starter)
2nd round- Gosder Cherilus RT (Starter)
4th Round- Beau Bell MLB (potential Starter)
4th Round- Owen Schmitt FB (Starter)
5th Round- Frank Okam DT (potential Starter)
5th Round- Durant Brooks P (Starter)
6th Round- Tommy Blake DE/OLB(Beast, if gets it together)
7th Round- Taylor Meklhaff K (Potential Starter)
7th Round- Davone Bess WR

I think we can address some positions that are good that could be better, and add a lot more talent in the draft. I don't like mock drafts, so this is not one, just an example of how 3 starters is very realistic.

Oooohhh. Davone with a 7th. Thats a sweet move right there.
I think he will be a very good KR/PR guy at the least.
SLEEPER PICK! Smooth, very smooth.
I'd rather have DT Trevor Laws in the 2nd, but i like it.

[oubronco]

ugh

[Ziggy]

I don't see anything wrong with wanting 3 starters out of your draft when you have 9 picks and a team with this many holes. If Denver is going to fight thier way out of mediocrity, it has to start with the draft.

[TheDave]

So who did we draft that yr?

DJ Williams-avg nfl linebacker
Tatum Bell-journeyman 1000 yrd yr
Jeremy Lesuer- yeah don't get too excited about 3rd round picks KC lol
Jeff Shoat- STRIIIIIKE 2
Triandos Luke- Cool name, bad football player
Josh Sewell- Hmmmmm who? I guess he played center
Matt Mauk-meh
Brandon Miree-got injured if i rem right


Wrong Roy Williams... Think: Dallas Cowboys

[TallyBronco]

I'm guessing that 3 starters is probably the average haul for a team's draft class. But I doubt that most teams draft three who actually start on opening day.

I don't expect more than two first-game starters from this draft. What's important is what positions those guys fill.

[SonOfLe-loLang]

He was better than average his rookie year when he was playing WLB,which is his natural spot.

Oh stop, he's been better than "average" his entire career. He might not be a superstar, but he's better than average

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Wrong Roy Williams... Think: Dallas Cowboys

I cannot believe it took mulitple posts before someone pointed that out. No wait, I actually can.

That trade meant at a minimum, no Lelie and Portis, and therefore no Champ.

[CBF1]

"Three starters, three impact players, three fixtures in the lineup for years to come."

That's hitting on every pick, actually...

Oh wait, I read that wrong.

They only want three...

Lol, I thought that read three starters, three rotational impact players and three developmental projects.

Nevermind. Nothing to see here, move along.

:thumbsup: ROFL!

[no-pseudo-fan]

We need some guys that will start, doesn't need to be from day one.

[NFLBRONCO]

I wish people would focus on today. We all want more BM TD and Nalen's every year. It doesn't happen often.

I'd love to come out of the draft with

OT DT RB KR/PR P K

I know we need more but, its a start. This is why I really want to trade down.

[Smiling Assassin27]

i'd take one pro bowler over 3 marginal starters...

[no-pseudo-fan]

I wish people would focus on today. We all want more BM TD and Nalen's every year. It doesn't happen often.

I'd love to come out of the draft with

OT DT RB KR/PR P K

I know we need more but, its a start. This is why I really want to trade down.

Trading down is only effective if the talent is about the same, or if we have a high pick that will net us a lot of picks. i think we should stay at 12. If we can not fill every hole that is fine, but if we trade down that might cost us filling a hole. If you really like a player at 12, take him. Plan and simple.

[Peoples Champ]

Well hell, Jim! Why stop at three?

The Broncos should get at least 8 starters from this draft, two servicable veterans (trades), and at least one new hot cheerleader...

TWO. Two new hot cheerleaders.



I second the hot cheerleaders

[no-pseudo-fan]

i'd take one pro bowler over 3 marginal starters...

That is the truth. Elite players are hard to come by, and if you pass up on them, you kick yourself for years.

[Doggcow]

We should trade all our picks for Hixon, IMO

[Punisher]

3 starters is a realistic expectation, IMO.

1st round- J-Stewart RB (Starter)
2nd round- Gosder Cherilus RT (Starter)
4th Round- Beau Bell MLB (potential Starter)
4th Round- Owen Schmitt FB (Starter)
5th Round- Frank Okam DT (potential Starter)
5th Round- Durant Brooks P (Starter)
6th Round- Tommy Blake DE/OLB(Beast, if gets it together)
7th Round- Taylor Meklhaff K (Potential Starter)
7th Round- Davone Bess WR

I think we can address some positions that are good that could be better, and add a lot more talent in the draft. I don't like mock drafts, so this is not one, just an example of how 3 starters is very realistic.

Schmitt!!! Schmitt!! Schmitt!!

[oubronco]

That is the truth. Elite players are hard to come by, and if you pass up on them, you kick yourself for years.

Ed Reed comes to mind ;D

[OABB]

Ed Reed comes to mind ;D

oh no you di'int!

[socalorado]

Schmitt!!! Schmitt!! Schmitt!!

Schmitt opening holes for Stewart......wonder if those "red zone" issues would get resolved..

[nickademus]

3 starters is a realistic expectation, IMO.

1st round- J-Stewart RB (Starter)
2nd round- Gosder Cherilus RT (Starter)
4th Round- Beau Bell MLB (potential Starter)
4th Round- Owen Schmitt FB (Starter)
5th Round- Frank Okam DT (potential Starter)
5th Round- Durant Brooks P (Starter)
6th Round- Tommy Blake DE/OLB(Beast, if gets it together)
7th Round- Taylor Meklhaff K (Potential Starter)
7th Round- Davone Bess WR



Switch Stewart with Mendenhall and I would love this draft. the only thing I think we would be missing is a returner so throw in a Foxworth trade for a 3rd or fourth and grab a return guy. but I absolutely love Tommy Blake and that is a pick that is right up Shanny's alley he would either be a pro-bowl type guy or an absolute waste of space dude has all the tools in the world just got to question the 6 inches between his ears.

[nickademus]

Oooohhh. Davone with a 7th. Thats a sweet move right there.
I think he will be a very good KR/PR guy at the least.
SLEEPER PICK! Smooth, very smooth.
I'd rather have DT Trevor Laws in the 2nd, but i like it.

I am not sold on Davone I think we should make a trade and attemp to get a 3rd or 4th out of Foxy and grab a more polished product than Davone. But two potential return guys would be better than one!

[PLOWHORSE]

3 starters is a realistic expectation, IMO.

1st round- J-Stewart RB (Starter)
2nd round- Gosder Cherilus RT (Starter)
4th Round- Beau Bell MLB (potential Starter)
4th Round- Owen Schmitt FB (Starter)
5th Round- Frank Okam DT (potential Starter)
5th Round- Durant Brooks P (Starter)
6th Round- Tommy Blake DE/OLB(Beast, if gets it together)
7th Round- Taylor Meklhaff K (Potential Starter)
7th Round- Davone Bess WR

I think we can address some positions that are good that could be better, and add a lot more talent in the draft. I don't like mock drafts, so this is not one, just an example of how 3 starters is very realistic.

This would be a great draft! I love the Bess pick too. Schmitt would krush in our system, plus he can catch.

[footstepsfrom#27]

Oh stop, he's been better than "average" his entire career. He might not be a superstar, but he's better than average
I believe DJ finished runner up for NFL ROY or defensive ROY that year. Why we messed with success and moved the guy is a real head scratcher. Hopefully he returns to that form now that he's back there again...IF he stays back there and Shanahan doesn't do something crazy like draft Keith Rivers to be Ian Gold II.

[Kaylore]

Sooooo... he's expecting a 100% success rate and anything else would be a bonus?

Is a 150% success rate bonus..?

Exactly. 3 starters are the minimum and any hall of famers is a bonus.

[rubaiyat]

if we ever got 4 good players per draft we wouldn't be in this hole.

Well it seems to be turning around, though the jury is out on the batch from last year. Clearly, the year before hit 4 good players.

[no-pseudo-fan]

Switch Stewart with Mendenhall and I would love this draft. the only thing I think we would be missing is a returner so throw in a Foxworth trade for a 3rd or fourth and grab a return guy. but I absolutely love Tommy Blake and that is a pick that is right up Shanny's alley he would either be a pro-bowl type guy or an absolute waste of space dude has all the tools in the world just got to question the 6 inches between his ears.

Not sure on Mendenhall. I have looked at a lot of his post season workouts, and he looks bored. I don't know what to think about that. If you go back and look you will see the same thing

[dreasher54]

Oh no...do starting kickers and punters count?

hmmm...

[cutthemdown]

At first I wanted to say the article was ridiculous. Three NFL starters in a draft is a tall order. But the last two years we have done that and more.

With Cutler, Scheffler, Marshall, Dumervill and Kuper all starting (and darn good starters at that) from '06 and Moss, Crowder, Harris, and Thomas either starters or likely soon-to-be starters the bar is set pretty high for this class.

Whatever happens this year though, that '06 class is the type of draft championship teams are made of. That is a fantastic group of players to come from one class.

Scheffler wasn't the starter on the depth chart. Kyper only because of injuries last yr, Harris hasn't started, Thomas hasn't, Moss hasn't. Crowder only because Ekuban got hurt but im not sure he even was on depth chart as a starter.

If all those dudes become good starters then Broncos will be looking good. I find it humorous though how fast some of them get elevated to great player and starter in fans minds.

[Punisher]

Schmitt opening holes for Stewart......wonder if those "red zone" issues would get resolved..

I'll be so happy if the Broncos Select Owen Schmitt.Also if they pick Williams,Mendenhall or Stewart it will be a great Draft....

[DBroncos4life]

I'm on board with the first two rounds should end up being starters I don't think thats too much to ask for.

[kmonty]

We pretty much need a rotation of DT's out of this draft. Use the 2nd rounder on a guy like Sims or Laws. Trade for D-Rob. Then I wouldn't even mind if we throw another pick at another guy in the 5th/6th. Pray two of 'em stick.

[Bigdawg26]

I would rather get Curtis Lufton in the second or Johanaton Goff in the fourth into of Beau Bell. And I would swap and get Okam(who I think is going to be a GOOD starter in the league, and I'm dying for the broncos to get) in the 4th and and Schmitt in the 5th.
1st-Mendenhall or Stewart
2nd-Curtis Lofton
4th-Oniel Cousins
4th-Frank Okam
5th-Owen Schitt
5th-Duran Brooks
6th-Taylor Meklhaff

[Bigdawg26]

But I do have a feeling that the broncos want Dan Connor in the second i have a feeling

[TheReverend]

Scheffler wasn't the starter on the depth chart. Kyper only because of injuries last yr, Harris hasn't started, Thomas hasn't, Moss hasn't. Crowder only because Ekuban got hurt but im not sure he even was on depth chart as a starter.

If all those dudes become good starters then Broncos will be looking good. I find it humorous though how fast some of them get elevated to great player and starter in fans minds.

Thomas HAS in fact started, and Moss was certainly on his way.

I find it humorous when fans don't support and expect good things from their own players. Considering the growth we saw ON THE FIELD last season from rookies and 2nd year players alike, this has the potential of being a GREAT season.

No one was expecting "scrawny and skinny" (which is far from true if you watch his figure in pads on gameday), pass rushing Jarvis Moss to play the run, but by week 2 he was doing a damn fine job sniffing plays out and blowing them up in the backfield.

No one was expecting stout run stuffing LDE Tim Crowder to rush the passer, but he managed a few multi sack games and even let fortune bounce a ball into his hands for a TD run back.

[TheReverend]

Check that, Jarvis actually did start a game before injury.

3 down, 1 to go.

[kmonty]

Check that, Jarvis actually did start a game before injury.

3 down, 1 to go.

Wasn't that the Colts game where we put Sam Adams on the inactives and put a bunch of DE's inside?

Worked for a quarter :strong:

[TheReverend]

But I do have a feeling that the broncos want Dan Connor in the second i have a feeling

I still have an extremely hard time believing he'll last to the second round no matter what the "mock draft experts" have to say.

Paul Posluszny slipped last year as well, yet he played immediately and was lights out before his injury. Dan Connor is much better. It's a terrible crime these kids commit... how dare they play pro football when they're white and not QBs or OL and still expected to be drafted appropriately!

[TheReverend]

Wasn't that the Colts game where we put Sam Adams on the inactives and put a bunch of DE's inside?

Worked for a quarter :strong:

For a half, actually. !Booya!

Edit: I'm pretty sure Jarvis was standing up as a 3-4 OLB too.

[no-pseudo-fan]

I think that the Broncos have to weigh their options well. There should be a plan or 2 in place. We should target certain players for sure, but then you have to weigh value for the pick. If you can get a OL in the 2nd or 4th that is comparable to the top guys in the 1st you hold off. If you think that DL or WR is weak and value in these spots can be found all thru the draft. You want impact in the first 2 rounds, then you see what you got and what is left and you make a plan to get the best combination of players possible.

That is why I like a Jonathan Stewart Oscar Schmitt draft, along with Curtis Lofton and Frank Okam. We have speed to the corners, but we need strength up the middle. These 4 picks alone will go a long way to fix our issues.

Then you got to take a least 1 roll of the dice, not high, but somewhere in the latter rounds let those dice roll. Tommy Blake is the gamble that could be a high reward pick, or just another 6th or 7th round cut. Either way, not alot gambled. Just my opinion.

[TheReverend]

I think that the Broncos have to weigh their options well. There should be a plan or 2 in place. We should target certain players for sure, but then you have to weigh value for the pick. If you can get a OL in the 2nd or 4th that is comparable to the top guys in the 1st you hold off. If you think that DL or WR is weak and value in these spots can be found all thru the draft. You want impact in the first 2 rounds, then you see what you got and what is left and you make a plan to get the best combination of players possible.

That is why I like a Jonathan Stewart Oscar Schmitt draft, along with Curtis Lofton and Frank Okam. We have speed to the corners, but we need strength up the middle. These 4 picks alone will go a long way to fix our issues.

Then you got to take a least 1 roll of the dice, not high, but somewhere in the latter rounds let those dice roll. Tommy Blake is the gamble that could be a high reward pick, or just another 6th or 7th round cut. Either way, not alot gambled. Just my opinion.

Oscar Schmitt, huh?

[no-pseudo-fan]

Oscar Schmitt, huh?

Owen. I like the name Oscar better, but not as much as the name Attilla.
I was going to name my son Attilla but my wife overruled me.

Imagine. Attilla is killing them out there today. Attilla is devestating the defense. They have no plan that will stop Attilla.

[TheReverend]

Owen. I like the name Oscar better, but not as much as the name Attilla.
I was going to name my son Attilla but my wife overruled me.

Imagine. Attilla is killing them out there today. Attilla is devestating the defense. They have no plan that will stop Attilla.

Thank God your wife has some sense... my ex wanted to name our daughter Jake... we're divorced now.

[Kaylore]

Check that, Jarvis actually did start a game before injury.

3 down, 1 to go.

Whatever dude. Don't you know that players on the team right now can't get better from year one to year two? Don't you realize that the draft, specifically the first round selection, is the only hope this team has of getting better? Haven't you figured out that if we don't draft Ryan Clady that all three phases of our football team will collapse on itself like a neutron star and Roger Goodell will be so embarrassed for the Broncos that he'll ban them from the NFL?!?!

Moss is done. We know that after six games. Yes he got better, but that means nothing! So what if Dumervil improved? He was an anomaly! I ask you how many players get better from the their rookie year to year two? It's common knowledge concerning players that if you don't go to the pro-bowl your rookie season then you're a bust. Moss = Bust. Crowder = Bust. Ryan Harris = Bust.

Only one player can save us and that's Ryan Clady (and maybe Dwayne Robinson). Without those players on our team, we won't win any games EVER again!

Get a clue, dude.

[no-pseudo-fan]

Thank God your wife has some sense... my ex wanted to name our daughter Jake... we're divorced now.

Didn't like Attilla? How about Hannibal?

http://s3.amazonaws.com/scorereviewsCovers/attila.jpg

[no-pseudo-fan]

Whatever dude. Don't you know that players on the team right now can't get better from year one to year two? Don't you realize that the draft, specifically the first round selection, is the only hope this team has of getting better? Haven't you figured out that if we don't draft Ryan Clady that all three phases of our football team will collapse on itself like a neutron star and Roger Goodell will be so embarrassed for the Broncos that he'll ban them from the NFL?!?!

Moss is done. We know that after six games. Yes he got better, but that means nothing! So what if Dumervil improved? He was an anomaly! I ask you how many players get better from the their rookie year to year two? It's common knowledge concerning players that if you don't go to the pro-bowl your rookie season then you're a bust. Moss = Bust. Crowder = Bust. Ryan Harris = Bust.

Only one player can save us and that's Ryan Clady (and maybe Dwayne Robinson). Without those players on our team, we won't win any games EVER again!

Get a clue, dude.

:~ohyah!:

[TheReverend]

Whatever dude. Don't you know that players on the team right now can't get better from year one to year two? Don't you realize that the draft, specifically the first round selection, is the only hope this team has of getting better? Haven't you figured out that if we don't draft Ryan Clady that all three phases of our football team will collapse on itself like a neutron star and Roger Goodell will be so embarrassed for the Broncos that he'll ban them from the NFL?!?!

Moss is done. We know that after six games. Yes he got better, but that means nothing! So what if Dumervil improved? He was an anomaly! I ask you how many players get better from the their rookie year to year two? It's common knowledge concerning players that if you don't go to the pro-bowl your rookie season then you're a bust. Moss = Bust. Crowder = Bust. Ryan Harris = Bust.

Only one player can save us and that's Ryan Clady (and maybe Dwayne Robinson). Without those players on our team, we won't win any games EVER again!

Get a clue, dude.

I just spent a few minutes banging my head against the wall for not realizing this sooner.

I'm starting a petition to send into Goodell and fully intend to protest the NFL draft until they cut it down to the first round. The rest of those players never amount to **** in Madden!!!!!!!!!!!!111

OMG! CLADY, WILLIAMS AND ED REEEEEEEEEEED!

[TheReverend]

Bad news everyone: I hear Ryan Clady and Chris Williams are so awesome they're actually going to be drafted by the Justice League of America.

[wabbit]

I'm fairly content if the Broncos can lasso a starter or two and some depth.

I'd be even happier if we DON'T draft several positions...DE for example.

Another CB & we can be the first team in the league running the dollar defensive coverage.

and, who needs Safeties (Safetys...Safety's??). I mean, we don't stop anyone at the line anyway, so we need plenty of little fast guys to chase everyone down.

Oh, and by all means, lets draft another couple of RBs...need that FB too, because once Cutler goes down and Ramsey starts throwing the thing with such abandon that even the fans have to duck for cover, Denver will need to keep opponent time of possession under two minutes a game.

Ah, the wonder.

[TheReverend]

I'm fairly content if the Broncos can lasso a starter or two and some depth.

I'd be even happier if we DON'T draft several positions...DE for example.

Another CB & we can be the first team in the league running the dollar defensive coverage.

and, who needs Safeties (Safetys...Safety's??). I mean, we don't stop anyone at the line anyway, so we need plenty of little fast guys to chase everyone down.

Oh, and by all means, lets draft another couple of RBs...need that FB too, because once Cutler goes down and Ramsey starts throwing the thing with such abandon that even the fans have to duck for cover, Denver will need to keep opponent time of possession under two minutes a game.

Ah, the wonder.

How passive aggressive... I think Kiszla's waiting for his hot oil massage, better get right on it.

[no-pseudo-fan]

Bad news everyone: I hear Ryan Clady and Chris Williams are so awesome they're actually going to be drafted by the Justice League of America.

JLA! Not the Super Friends.

[Kaylore]

I'm fairly content if the Broncos can lasso a starter or two and some depth.

I'd be even happier if we DON'T draft several positions...DE for example.

Another CB & we can be the first team in the league running the dollar defensive coverage.

and, who needs Safeties (Safetys...Safety's??). I mean, we don't stop anyone at the line anyway, so we need plenty of little fast guys to chase everyone down.

We cut Ian Gold! duh!

[TheReverend]

We cut Ian Gold! duh!

Ahhh the cause of every Bronco problem since Griese left town...

It was so nice winning the superbowl that one season he was in Tampa... then he gets brought back and we were right back to mediocrity in the AFCCG. Of course he had to ruin our run D last year... nevermind the completely selfish gap integrity and rampant freelancing in the front seven.

He sucks so bad he was an FA for almost like a day. That stupid Bill Parcells signed him! What a moron! What does he know about building defenses?!?!

Oh, and Courtney Brown had single digit sacks getting double teamed every play! Nevermind disruption and stuffs... He sucks!

[kmonty]

He sucks so bad he was an FA for almost like a day. That stupid Bill Parcells signed him! What a moron! What does he know about building defenses?!?!

Nope. He never actually signed, he's still a FA.

[TheReverend]

Nope. He never actually signed, he's still a FA.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/teams/transactions?team=mia

"March 1, 2008 Acquired defensive tackle Jason Ferguson from the Dallas Cowboys for undisclosed future draft picks; signed wide receiver Ernest Wilford, linebacker Ian Gold and tight end Sean Ryan. "

[kmonty]

Yeah but I heard that was a typo. It wouldn't be the first time ESPN was just plain wrong.

No mention from any mainstream reports and all the old player pages still list him as a Bronco. It's just weird.

ESPN MIA roster:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/teams/roster?team=mia&sort=pos

And they do update at ESPN; you look at the Broncos roster and they have DJack and Parker.

[TheReverend]

Yeah but I heard that was a typo. It wouldn't be the first time ESPN was just plain wrong.

No mention from any mainstream reports and all the old player pages still list him as a Bronco. It's just weird.

ESPN MIA roster:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/teams/roster?team=mia&sort=pos

And they do update at ESPN; you look at the Broncos roster and they have DJack and Parker.

I suppose we'll know when we play em. If he's a dolphin that week I hope Henry breaks him in half.

[wabbit]

I suppose we'll know when we play em. If he's a dolphin that week I hope Henry breaks him in half.

Henry??

You mean Stewart, then Henry followed by Young, Hall, Bell, Schmidt and Sapp.

As a matter of fact, the Broncos should design a cha-cha line so the occassional TDs can be entertaining. A little music. Maybe a marching step...I mean, they could be so rare.

[iforgotmypassword]

wuts wabbit want? if we stay at 12 that is

[wabbit]

wuts wabbit want? if we stay at 12 that is


OT...big, heavy set fellow that keeps your franchise QB from becoming a memorial plaque at mid-field.

[TheReverend]

Henry??

You mean Stewart, then Henry followed by Young, Hall, Bell, Schmidt and Sapp.

As a matter of fact, the Broncos should design a cha-cha line so the occassional TDs can be entertaining. A little music. Maybe a marching step...I mean, they could be so rare.

This post is much more appreciable than your previous one.

Criticizing Saturdays draft before it even happens seems just as dirty as banging your sister... no matter how acceptable both avenues are in KC.

[wabbit]

I only saw my sister naked once, and it was an accident...kind of.

I decided at that time that others could have her...I moved on...to criticizing Bronco drafts.

[Kaylore]

OT...big, heavy set fellow that keeps your franchise QB from becoming a memorial plaque at mid-field.

Could you be more specific please?