View Full Version : McCain ....... I cant believe people are going to vote for this turd
Spider
04-21-2008, 10:06 PM
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/04/expensive_taste.html
April 21, 2008
Expensive Taste
$2,546.56
That's how much cashola John McCain's campaign spent March 2 at Barney's New York in Beverly Hills. (That's 90212, in case anyone was wondering.)
According to McCain's latest FEC report, the charges were "credited back" April 2.
(JENNIFER SKALKA)
UPDATE: McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds said the campaign's card was stolen.
Posted at 12:59 PM
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Comments
The campaign's card was stolen? Quick, let's put John McCain in charge of national security!
emily | 04.21.08 03:22 PM
cutthemdown
04-21-2008, 10:50 PM
yeah you are right that totally excludes him from being Presidential. I mean Obama only snorted coke and Hilliary dodges sniper fire. They are much better choices.
Spider
04-21-2008, 11:11 PM
yeah you are right that totally excludes him from being Presidential. I mean Obama only snorted coke and Hilliary dodges sniper fire. They are much better choices.
Dont get ****ing drama queen with me , if the ****er cant keep track of a credit card , or the people he has around him, what in the **** makes you think ( I know I see the irony here ) he can keep track of the ****ing country? ....... for the love of pete man use your ****ing head for something besides a hat rack
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
04-21-2008, 11:34 PM
....... I cant believe people are going to vote for this turd
The same thing was said re: Disaster Boy in 2000 and 2004.
Voting while stupid should be a crime.
http://www.bartcop.com/wn-shop.jpg
Bronco Jamus
04-22-2008, 12:10 AM
The man was a POW. Show him some respect.
Spider
04-22-2008, 12:13 AM
The man was a POW. Show him some respect.
**** you ...... he is trying to win the job of running my country ... We have enough **** ups from Bush to last a life time ..... Besides McCain lost all of my respect when he caved in to Bush over that black child thing .... McCain wants respect , then he had better act like it
The man was a POW. Show him some respect.
Respect; Well Maybe.
Worthy & capable of being a good president; not a chance in hell. He would finish this nation off.
Bronco Jamus
04-22-2008, 12:20 AM
Respect; Well Maybe.
Worthy & capable of being a good president; not a chance in hell. He would finish this nation off.
Congress has to do the heavy lifting. I don't really find a big difference between the three. I am just waiting until we get past the nomination stage and get to some debates.
Florida_Bronco
04-22-2008, 12:22 AM
I'm not big on McCain, but I really don't see what the problem is with this.
<b>Congress has to do the heavy lifting.</b> I don't really find a big difference between the three. I am just waiting until we get past the nomination stage and get to some debates.
You mean like the last eight years?
Bronco Jamus
04-22-2008, 12:24 AM
I mean taking the steps to cut massive amounts of spending and taxing.
They haven't managed to keep Bush from huge tax cuts for the top incomes while emptying the coffers to Halaberton & Black water and the rest of the Industrial military complex.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
04-22-2008, 12:27 AM
The man was a POW. Show him some respect.
Like the jackals on your side respected John Kerry?
Riiiiight.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
04-22-2008, 12:30 AM
They haven't managed to keep Bush from huge tax cuts for the top incomes while emptying the coffers to Halaberton & Black water and the rest of the Industrial military complex.
The only president who has ever cut taxes on the rich during wartime.
Talk about stuck on stupid, eh?
cutthemdown
04-22-2008, 12:42 AM
Dont get ****ing drama queen with me , if the ****er cant keep track of a credit card , or the people he has around him, what in the **** makes you think ( I know I see the irony here ) he can keep track of the ****ing country? ....... for the love of pete man use your ****ing head for something besides a hat rack
So you don't think Obama has ever misplaced something? And what makes you think McCain pays for this with a card out of his wallet? Isn't it probably just some aid who left it behind somewhere? I don't think any of the things I listed are that big a deal, but this isn't either. I guess I can understand how people on the other side of the fence find it ironic and feel the need to point it out. Really though it's a stupid issue.
cutthemdown
04-22-2008, 12:44 AM
I'm not big on McCain, but I really don't see what the problem is with this.
This is what it has come to. The issues are Obama is a racist coke snorting elitist. Hilliary is a lying bitch that will say anything to get into office. McCain is an old fool who can't run the country by evidence of his campaign losing a credit card, oh yeah and he has a bad temper.
Spider
04-22-2008, 12:50 AM
So you don't think Obama has ever misplaced something? And what makes you think McCain pays for this with a card out of his wallet? Isn't it probably just some aid who left it behind somewhere? I don't think any of the things I listed are that big a deal, but this isn't either. I guess I can understand how people on the other side of the fence find it ironic and feel the need to point it out. Really though it's a stupid issue.
My stance on Obama and Hillary are clear..........
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
04-22-2008, 12:50 AM
Obama is a racist coke snorting elitist.
Hearing this from a Bush water carrier is absolutely hilarious. :rofl:
http://bartblog.bartcop.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/cannon-fodder.jpg
Bronco Jamus
04-22-2008, 08:46 AM
They haven't managed to keep Bush from huge tax cuts for the top incomes while emptying the coffers to Halaberton & Black water and the rest of the Industrial military complex.
Those top incomes still pay larger amounts of money. If they are taxed higher they'll just take the money elsewhere.
Bronco Jamus
04-22-2008, 08:50 AM
Like the jackals on your side respected John Kerry?
Riiiiight.
If it wasn't right then, why would it be right now?
TailgateNut
04-22-2008, 08:57 AM
The man was a POW. Show him some respect.
So was my grandfather in law, but it doesn't automatically qualify him for the precidency.
Spider
04-22-2008, 09:13 AM
Those top incomes still pay larger amounts of money. If they are taxed higher they'll just take the money elsewhere.
you are full of **** .......why do people insist on bull****ting their way through issues ?
I know for a fact the top income bracket dont pay the taxes I do cause I cant afford 225K for a top notch tax lawyer
Bronco Jamus
04-22-2008, 09:16 AM
So was my grandfather in law, but it doesn't automatically qualify him for the precidency.
Right, but we should still show your grandfather respect and not call him names.
Those top incomes still pay larger amounts of money. If they are taxed higher they'll just take the money elsewhere.
If they can "take the money elsewhere" and save a nickel they will, so don't try the argument that they will pay a little but not a lot. You talk as if they are doing the USA a favor by paying taxes and as long as the government doesn't over do it they will benevolently pay a token amount.
Right, but we should still show your grandfather respect and not call him names.
When a person is seeking to be president of the USA the gloves come off kid. We as citizens have a right and a duty to assess the person and that means asking some tough questions that may appear disrespectful.
Bronco Jamus
04-22-2008, 01:17 PM
If they can "take the money elsewhere" and save a nickel they will, so don't try the argument that they will pay a little but not a lot. You talk as if they are doing the USA a favor by paying taxes and as long as the government doesn't over do it they will benevolently pay a token amount.
They still pay more dollars and if you tax them to death they'll take their money elsewhere. It's fact. Then the economy of where ever will suffer. The answer is to stop spending.
Spider
04-22-2008, 01:20 PM
They still pay more dollars and if you tax them to death they'll take their money elsewhere. It's fact. Then the economy of where ever will suffer. The answer is to stop spending.
Hilarious!
Bronco Jamus
04-22-2008, 01:23 PM
When a person is seeking to be president of the USA the gloves come off kid. We as citizens have a right and a duty to assess the person and that means asking some tough questions that may appear disrespectful.
You still have to be civil and show respect for the people that put their life and family on the line to fight for our country whether you believe it to be a just csuse or not. Criticism is fine, but name calling is uncalled for kid.
Spider
04-22-2008, 01:28 PM
You still have to be civil and show respect for the people that put their life and family on the line to fight for our country whether you believe it to be a just csuse or not. Criticism is fine, but name calling is uncalled for kid.
you are a ****ing Idiot , people put their lives on the line in many different ways for this country and their fellow country men ........ Doesnt mean they are all salt of the earth people .......
cutthemdown
04-22-2008, 03:42 PM
Hearing this from a Bush water carrier is absolutely hilarious. :rofl:
http://bartblog.bartcop.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/cannon-fodder.jpg
dude you really need to start reading all the posts in the thread. If you had you would see that I felt all of that is none sense. Go ahead though and poison the well.
cutthemdown
04-22-2008, 03:44 PM
Hearing this from a Bush water carrier is absolutely hilarious. :rofl:
http://bartblog.bartcop.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/cannon-fodder.jpg
please just quote my whole post if you are going to do it. That way people can see the point I was really trying to make. The fact you cry about strawman this, and poison the well that makes the fact you misrepresent peoples posts a joke. How do you misrepresent? by taking things out of context and only quoting a portion of someones statement.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
04-22-2008, 04:24 PM
If it wasn't right then, why would it be right now?
The right-wing jackals on your side tried to disparage John Kerry's military service. (Remember that infantile, idiotic purple Band-Aid thing? How about the Swift Boat Liars?) I don't see anyone here doing the same thing to McCain.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
04-22-2008, 04:26 PM
please just quote my whole post if you are going to do it. That way people can see the point I was really trying to make. The fact you cry about strawman this, and poison the well that makes the fact you misrepresent peoples posts a joke. How do you misrepresent? by taking things out of context and only quoting a portion of someones statement.
Riiiiiiight.
As if the context changes anything about your statement.
Bronco Jamus
04-22-2008, 04:29 PM
The right-wing jackals on your side tried to disparage John Kerry's military service. (Remember that infantile, idiotic purple Band-Aid thing? How about the Swift Boat Liars?) I don't see anyone here doing the same thing to McCain.
I don't know what side you are talking about and I am not familar with what situatio you are refering to. However, it still doesn't change the fact that calling a POW a turd is unacceptable.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
04-22-2008, 04:33 PM
I don't know what side you are talking about and I am not familar with what situatio you are refering to. However, it still doesn't change the fact that calling a POW a turd is unacceptable.
Huh?
You don't remember the Swift Boat Vets?
You don't remember the '04 GOP convention in NYC?
At any rate, you might have a point if someone was disrespecting or attacking McCain's military service, but such is not the case.
I, for one, cannot stand the man, and I shudder at the thought of a McCain presidency, but I have always acknowledged that I respect his military service.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
04-22-2008, 04:35 PM
Do right-wingers really have short memories, or is BJ just not old enough to remember?
http://www.projo.com/blogs/shenews/photos/purpleheart.jpg
http://www.rantical.com/rantpix-02/bandaid.jpg
Bronco Jamus
04-22-2008, 04:42 PM
Do right-wingers really have short memories, or is BJ just not old enough to remember?
http://www.projo.com/blogs/shenews/photos/purpleheart.jpg
http://www.rantical.com/rantpix-02/bandaid.jpg
Who actually pays attention to that kind of garbage?
Spider
04-22-2008, 04:42 PM
Huh?
You don't remember the Swift Boat Vets?
You don't remember the '04 GOP convention in NYC?
At any rate, you might have a point if someone was disrespecting or attacking McCain's military service, but such is not the case.
I, for one, cannot stand the man, and I shudder at the thought of a McCain presidency, but I have always acknowledged that I respect his military service.
LOL Jamus is an idiot ....
Hotrod
04-22-2008, 04:50 PM
Well I aint gonna do no votin for that muslim guy or that woman.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
04-22-2008, 04:50 PM
Who actually pays attention to that kind of garbage?
You can't be serious with this question? :crazy:
Hint: Those Band-Aids were being handed out and worn by people at the 2004 GOP convention in New York.
If you are serious with your question, then it works both ways: when someone disrespects McCain's service, his opponents have every right to ask you "who actually pays attention to that kind of garbage?"
elsid13
04-22-2008, 04:53 PM
OK I really don't understand what the issue is. From what I understand advance teams and select members for both campaign get access to credit cards to get things for the campaign. Like getting rooms for the staff, buying food, etc. Very rarely to individual candidates buy anything.In fact I am sure about 99% of the time it's a staffer that putting down the card. So this non-story.
Bronco Jamus
04-22-2008, 04:53 PM
You can't be serious with this question? :crazy:
Hint: Those Band-Aids were being handed out and worn by people at the 2004 GOP convention in New York.
If you are serious with your question, then it works both ways: when someone disrespects McCain's service, his opponents have every right to ask you "who actually pays attention to that kind of garbage?"
Why waste time watching a convention for an incumbant?
I, for one, cannot stand the man, and I shudder at the thought of a McCain presidency, but I have always acknowledged that I respect his military service.
How can an illegal war confer legitimacy on those who were in it?
elsid13
04-22-2008, 04:54 PM
Well I aint gonna do no votin for that muslim guy or that woman.
What if they offered to upgrade your pink riding mower with a special beer cup holder made in good old US of A ???
Hotrod
04-22-2008, 04:57 PM
What if they offered to upgrade your pink riding mower with a special beer cup holder made in good old US of A ???
I'd still have to vote against'em since everyone knows I never EVER put my beers down while mowing the lawn. Now some pink flamingos and maybe I could be bought........American made of course.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
04-22-2008, 05:03 PM
Why waste time watching a convention for an incumbant?
Even if you didn't watch the convention, the stories I mentioned were all over the news and the web for weeks.
Either you are too young to remember them or you were living in a cave.
Bronco Jamus
04-22-2008, 05:13 PM
Even if you didn't watch the convention, the stories I mentioned were all over the news and the web for weeks.
Either you are too young to remember them or you were living in a cave.
I am in my mid 30's so that settles that portion of the question. I don't watch a bunch of TV outside of sports. And in the summers I spend my time outside. I work hard, and I play hard.
Spider
04-22-2008, 05:16 PM
I am in my mid 30's so that settles that portion of the question. I don't watch a bunch of TV outside of sports. And in the summers I spend my time outside. I work hard, and I play hard.
Bull**** .......
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
04-22-2008, 05:42 PM
I don't watch a bunch of TV outside of sports.
So you are saying you are uninformed when it comes to politics?
(BTW, the stories I mentioned were not just on TV - they were all over the web as well.)
How can an illegal war confer legitimacy on those who were in it?
Is there anything you do not stand in aloof judgement of W*GS?
Is there anything you do not stand in aloof judgement of W*GS?
Things I don't know much about.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
04-22-2008, 06:28 PM
Is there anything you do not stand in aloof judgement of W*GS?
He's a regular poster child for grandiosity, isn't he?
cutthemdown
04-22-2008, 07:18 PM
When a person is seeking to be president of the USA the gloves come off kid. We as citizens have a right and a duty to assess the person and that means asking some tough questions that may appear disrespectful.
I have to agree with this. It's ok to ask McCain is your health good enough to be President. Does your mind still work sharply. How is your memory now that you are 70 plus yrs old. That isn't disrespectful only what has to be asked.
Just like Obama will have to be asked if he ever sold drugs to a friend. What do you feel about Rewv Wrights comments? do you think America gave aids to black people etc etc
Just like Hilliary has to be asked why do you make up stories.
It's just a way to see how the respond to adversity. If you can't handle some tough questions I don't want you in the white house.
Any one see Hillary on Larry King last night? I caught pieces of the show but what I saw from her was impressive.
cutthemdown
04-22-2008, 07:54 PM
Any one see Hillary on Larry King last night? I caught pieces of the show but what I saw from her was impressive.
She doesn't give up I will give her that. I think if she was President she would be a really tireless worker. Sometimes that isn't good though. Do you think she might be too much a control freak? President needs to delegate a lot of authority.
My issue with Hillary is i have no clue what her real plan is for America should she find herself president. I am beginning to think she has a better chance to beat mcCain than Obama would.
I think we'll see another attack (false flag) about a month before the election and the sheepal will flock to cast their votes for Mccain the war hero to save them and the "time for a change" guy Obama will be left out in the cold. Carl Rove knows how to win elections and he will use fear to grab this one for McCain. Hillary might be a monkey wrench in the plan though. That's why the Murdock driven media is trying to anoint Obama so badly. They know one nasty incident and the election is theirs if Obama is the other choice..
Spider
04-22-2008, 08:09 PM
Hillary delieved a beat down in PA
spdirty
04-22-2008, 08:18 PM
Pretty sad state of affairs in a country of 300 million when these 3 turds are the best we can come up with to lead this country. :(
Spider
04-22-2008, 08:41 PM
Pretty sad state of affairs in a country of 300 million when these 3 turds are the best we can come up with to lead this country. :(
I have to agree .......you know who I like ? Pat Buchanon , I would never vote for him , but I like him
cutthemdown
04-22-2008, 08:45 PM
Pretty sad state of affairs in a country of 300 million when these 3 turds are the best we can come up with to lead this country. :(
I said in another thread maybe we need to pay more? I mean politicians in Singapore make more then our President. I think to get people to want to like the sort of life it takes to be clean enough for Pres would should offer more.
I say a country as rich as we are could pay the President 3 million. How stupid is it we waste millions on advertising to elect a guy to a job that doesn't pay well.
Maybe if we made the money better, better and brighter would apply?
spdirty
04-22-2008, 08:50 PM
I said in another thread maybe we need to pay more? I mean politicians in Singapore make more then our President. I think to get people to want to like the sort of life it takes to be clean enough for Pres would should offer more.
I say a country as rich as we are could pay the President 3 million. How stupid is it we waste millions on advertising to elect a guy to a job that doesn't pay well.
Maybe if we made the money better, better and brighter would apply?
Maybe get rid of campaign finance reform so candidates don't have to spend so much ****ing time trying to raise money.
I dont care about salaries. They make their bones elsewhere, like the post-presidency speech tour, etc.
spdirty
04-22-2008, 08:51 PM
I have to agree .......you know who I like ? Pat Buchanon , I would never vote for him , but I like him
Why wouldn't you?
Spider
04-22-2008, 08:55 PM
Why wouldn't you?
His policies .... just cant go for the isolationist stance
epicSocialism4tw
04-22-2008, 10:47 PM
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/04/expensive_taste.html
April 21, 2008
Expensive Taste
$2,546.56
That's how much cashola John McCain's campaign spent March 2 at Barney's New York in Beverly Hills. (That's 90212, in case anyone was wondering.)
According to McCain's latest FEC report, the charges were "credited back" April 2.
(JENNIFER SKALKA)
UPDATE: McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds said the campaign's card was stolen.
Dude you are living in an alternative universe if you dont understand the money at these folks' disposal.
Bills like this are the norm, not the exception.
Spider
04-22-2008, 11:03 PM
Dude you are living in an alternative universe if you dont understand the money at these folks' disposal.
Bills like this are the norm, not the exception.
I understand , but it is our tax dollars ..... some here made excuses , but I never lost anyone elses money , and when I get running money on my card , I spend it only for that , I dont go out and buy CB's , treat myself to steak , or other fancy things , I should expect the same thing from someone who is running for office
epicSocialism4tw
04-23-2008, 12:13 AM
I understand , but it is our tax dollars ..... some here made excuses , but I never lost anyone elses money , and when I get running money on my card , I spend it only for that , I dont go out and buy CB's , treat myself to steak , or other fancy things , I should expect the same thing from someone who is running for office
Well Spider, their world is quite different. When they are given money, it is with the understanding that big-money schmooze will take place.
Its the way of business. Its a show of good faith of sorts. A shared gift for the schmoozee.
In your case, these guys would rather you not spend money on yourself so that they can ensure that they have a little bit more for "important" things like this. Which may seem unfair, but thats the way that jobs are created and big deals are done. Its the way that partnerships are born, etc. These guys have extremely high stress lifestyles and give up their family lives in the process. This is part of the way that they provide a comfortable environment for themselves and their associates.
One just hopes that that side of au gratin potatoes that you bought with your contribution helps in advancing your own cause.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
04-23-2008, 03:08 AM
Quotes
"They went off the rails. That's it. They took a majority
that took 16 years to build and they destroyed it."
-- Snoot Gingrich, on how Bush and the GOP destroyed themselves, Link (http://www.politicalwire.com/)
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
04-23-2008, 03:12 AM
Bush Approval Remains at Record Low (http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/04/22/bush_approval_remains_at_record_low.html)
President Bush's approval rating is just 22%, according to the latest American Research Group survey (http://americanresearchgroup.com/economy/).
Key finding: "A total of 54% of Americans say their personal financial situations are getting worse, up from 46% in March and up from 31% a year ago."
spdirty
04-23-2008, 10:04 AM
Quotes
"They went off the rails. That's it. They took a majority
that took 16 years to build and they destroyed it."
-- Snoot Gingrich, on how Bush and the GOP destroyed themselves, Link (http://www.politicalwire.com/)
Id agree with this. And Id go so far as to say that they are continuing to destroy themselves.
DenverBrit
04-23-2008, 06:21 PM
Sometimes it takes a neutral view to put life in perspective. ;D
From Denmark - an incisive analysis of the US 2008 election
"We in Denmark cannot figure out why you are even bothering to hold an election.'
On one side, you have a b**** who is a lawyer, married to a lawyer. She opposes a lawyer who is married to a b**** who is a lawyer.
On the other side, you have a true war hero married to a woman with a huge chest who owns a beer distributorship.
Is there a contest here?"