Anubis Mock Rds 1-5

[Northman]

This is who i would like to see us draft. I use a mock site for my basis which is updated pretty frequently with what teams are interested in who. The first group of selections are who i would like and according to this site i use who is still available. The second group of selections is what this site predicted we would choose at those picks. Unfortuantely, this site only has the first 5 rounds done so i just stuck with those rounds.

#12- Chris Williams, OT, Vanderbilt
#42- Dre Moore, DT, Maryland
#108- Darius Reynaud, WR, West Virginia
#119- Mike Hart, RB, Michigan
#139- Peyton Hillis, FB, Arkansas
#148- Frank Okam, DT, Texas

Hypotheticals:

6th pick- Jamie Silva, S, Boston College
7th pick- Jason Reda, K, Illinois

Now, keep in mind that all the players i have selected here so far were available when i chose them. Some were taken a few picks behind us and the list below is the original picks on the mock that i was going by.


The original picks:

#12- Ryan Clady, OT, Boise State
#42- Earl Bennett, WR, Vanderbilt
#108- Marcus Harrison, DT, Arkansas
#119- Wesley Woodyard, OLB Kentucky
#139- Beau Bell, ILB, UNLV
#148- David Roach, S, TCU

No 6th or 7th Rounds available.

[ICON]

Solid job!:thumbs:

[Northman]

Solid job!:thumbs:

I dont think it will play out that way even if they are available but man, i would love to have those players. :sunshine:

[Triplelefthook]

i really like the second group of picks. love the prospect of OT/DT in rounds 1 and 2, and especially the Owen Schmidt pick. WR for depth and a decent RB late. would prefer to lay off the safeties from this class and grab some more OL/DL/LB.

[SureShot]

Wow I would take either one! Good job.

[CBF1]

I love your choices.... Which means we will get none of them. I did not see where our new kicker was picked :ROFL!:

[Northman]

I love your choices.... Which means we will get none of them. I did not see where our new kicker was picked :ROFL!:

LOL

Well, i believe we still have rounds 6 and 7 so we could get one then. ;)

[socalorado]

i'd be doing back flips for either of those drafts!
NICE!

[Kaylore]

That would be nice. Some of those I really like and the others I could totally live with. No one that I think will suck.

[no-pseudo-fan]

Quite solid. I can definately live with those choices.

[cmhargrove]

This is who i would like to see us draft. I use a mock site for my basis which is updated pretty frequently with what teams are interested in who. The first group of selections are who i would like and according to this site i use who is still available. The second group of selections is what this site predicted we would choose at those picks. Unfortuantely, this site only has the first 5 rounds done so i just stuck with those rounds.

#12- Chris Williams, OT, Vanderbilt
#42- Dre Moore, DT, Maryland
#108- Dexter Jackson, WR, Appalachian State
#119- Owen Schmitt, FB, West Virginia
#139- Tachard Choice, RB, Georgia Tech
#148- Jamie Silva, S, Boston College

Now, keep in mind that all the players i have selected here so far were available when i chose them. Some were taken a few picks behind us and the list below is the original picks on the mock that i was going by.


The original picks:

#12- Ryan Clady, OT, Boise State
#42- Earl Bennett, WR, Vanderbilt
#108- Marcus Harrison, DT, Arkansas
#119- Wesley Woodyard, OLB Kentucky
#139- Beau Bell, ILB, UNLV
#148- David Roach, S, TCU

No 6th or 7th Rounds available.

We are now giving you the title of "Director of Internet Football Operations." That would be a dream draft. The only thing I see is that the Broncos just don't believe in a true FB any more. I think that if they got creative, they could use Schmidt in a Cooley (Redskins) fashion as well, but I think the Broncos are committed to TE's instead of FB's. Hell, we resigned Nate Jackson didn't we?

If that happened, I would like to see the 119 pick go to another DT pick like Rubin, or some other big run stuffing sumo. I just think that we need to stockpile DT and see what shakes out. Thomas is no guarantee, and who will we be placing next to him if the season were to start now? I would actually be most excited to see Mallard in that spot (if we are out for a penetrating, run stopping style). We need lots of DT depth - maybe in the later rounds?

[Northman]

We are now giving you the title of "Director of Internet Football Operations." That would be a dream draft. The only thing I see is that the Broncos just don't believe in a true FB any more. I think that if they got creative, they could use Schmidt in a Cooley (Redskins) fashion as well, but I think the Broncos are committed to TE's instead of FB's. Hell, we resigned Nate Jackson didn't we?

If that happened, I would like to see the 119 pick go to another DT pick like Rubin, or some other big run stuffing sumo. I just think that we need to stockpile DT and see what shakes out. Thomas is no guarantee, and who will we be placing next to him if the season were to start now? I would actually be most excited to see Mallard in that spot (if we are out for a penetrating, run stopping style). We need lots of DT depth - maybe in the later rounds?


Im not opposed to any of what you say. You could make an argument to even grab another Olineman. But i really do think Denver needs to find another great FB like we once had in Howard Griffith. I know he isnt really using that system anymore but when we had that system no one could stop us on defense. I think Shanny has try to become to creative for his own good and needs to get back to what helped him win two rings. Obviously, Elway and TD were a big part of that but the system was in place that helped them even more. But, considering that all those players were available at the time of my picks i went with (IMO) best player available. I kinda wished that they had done the last 2 rounds on that mock because i may have been able to push Choice and Silva back because neither of them was listed in the first 5 rounds. Then we probably could have gone in the direction you were talking about. Maybe if they end up doing the last 2 rounds i can update this.

[Requiem]

Those are okay mocks, I think we could do much better.

[cmhargrove]

Im not opposed to any of what you say. You could make an argument to even grab another Olineman. But i really do think Denver needs to find another great FB like we once had in Howard Griffith. I know he isnt really using that system anymore but when we had that system no one could stop us on defense. I think Shanny has try to become to creative for his own good and needs to get back to what helped him win two rings. Obviously, Elway and TD were a big part of that but the system was in place that helped them even more. But, considering that all those players were available at the time of my picks i went with (IMO) best player available. I kinda wished that they had done the last 2 rounds on that mock because i may have been able to push Choice and Silva back because neither of them was listed in the first 5 rounds. Then we probably could have gone in the direction you were talking about. Maybe if they end up doing the last 2 rounds i can update this.

I agree with you, I would love Schmidt. I look at it from pass-pro also. If we are going to be suspect (or inexperienced) at both O-tackle positions, we could do a lot worse than to have a bad-a$$ blocker back there picking up blitzes from 3-4 defenses. I think Henry is a pretty good blocker, but thinking of a two-wide set with Graham and Schmidt to block makes me feel better about Cutler's long term health.

I think for at least the past four years, we have had a very difficult time fielding a "max protect" set from blitzing 3-4 teams. I just think back to the AFC championship against the Steelers. They could pick up the blitz, we couldn't. It's been the same story every since.

[Northman]

I agree with you, I would love Schmidt. I look at it from pass-pro also. If we are going to be suspect (or inexperienced) at both O-tackle positions, we could do a lot worse than to have a bad-a$$ blocker back there picking up blitzes from 3-4 defenses. I think Henry is a pretty good blocker, but thinking of a two-wide set with Graham and Schmidt to block makes me feel better about Cutler's long term health.

I think for at least the past four years, we have had a very difficult time fielding a "max protect" set from blitzing 3-4 teams. I just think back to the AFC championship against the Steelers. They could pick up the blitz, we couldn't. It's been the same story every since.

Agreed.

[Northman]

So i went back to the Mock Draft that i was using for my basis and expanded on what players were available and when. In Bold are my selections. So even if you dont agree with what i chose you can look as see if someone you think would be better or just as good would have been available going by this mock. Obviously, because there was no mock for the last 2 rounds i dont know how it would have played out so i personally took Silva and Choice. But as you can see, there were still many players you could have taken depending on how you would draft. Now, the players listed as available are ones that were selected by either Denver or other teams. Ive actually found out that Choice was gone before our #139 selection so i have adjusted my draft accordingly to reflect that.

#12- Chris Williams, OT, Vanderbilt
#42- Dre Moore, DT, Maryland
#108- Darius Reynaud, WR, West Virginia
#119- Mike Hart, RB, Michigan
#139- Peyton Hillis, FB, Arkansas
#148- Frank Okam, DT, Texas

Hypotheticals:

6th pick- Jamie Silva, S, Boston College
7th pick- Jason Reda, K, Illinois


#12 (Players still available) (All 1st Round Selections)

OT,G- Ryan Clady, Branden Albert, Jeff Otah, Gosder Cherilus, Anthony Collins
S- Kenny Phillips
DT- Kentwan Balmer
RB- Rashard Mendenhall, Jonathan Stewart
WR- Devin Thomas, Limas Sweed, Desean Jackson,

#42 (Players Available) (All 2nd Round Selections)

OT- Carl Nicks, Duane Brown, Sam Baker,
LB- Dan Connor, Jerod Mayo, Curtis Lofton, Xavier Adibi,
DT- Pat Sims, Trevor Laws, Dre Moore
WR- James Hardy, Earl Bennett, Malcolm Kelly, Early Doucet,
RB- Jamaal Charles, Felix Jones, Chris Johnson,
S- Tyrell Johnson,

(3rd Round selections based upon our needs.)

OT- Tony Hillis, Oniel Cousins, John Greco,
WR- Mario Manningham, Jordy Nelson, Andre Caldwell, Eddie Royal, William Franklin, Donnie Avery
RB- Matt Forte, Tashard Choice, Ray Rice,
S- Quintin Demps, DaJuan Morgan, Josh Barrett, Tom Zbikowski,
DT- Red Bryant, Ahtyba Rubin,
LB- Marcus Howard, Tavares Gooden, Erin Henderson, Phillip Wheeler,

#108 & #119 (Players Available) (All 4th Round Selections)

OT- Breno Giacomini, Jeremy Zuttah, Barry Richardson, Kirk Barton
WR- Paul Hubbard, Keenan Burton, Darius Reynaud, Jerome Simpson, Dexter Jackson
LB- Beau Bell, Shawn Crable, Ezra Butler, Wesley Woodyard, Jonathan Goff
S- Craig Steltz, Thomas DeCoud, Jamar Adams,
RB- Kevin Smith,
DT- Marcus Harrison

#139 & #148 (Players Available) (All 5 Round Selections)

LB- Ali Highsmith, Geno Hayes, Bruce Davis, Jameel McClain, Jeremy Leman
WR- Marcus Monk, Dj Hall, Arman Shields, Ernie Wheelwright, Steve Johnson, Lavelle Hawkins
DT- DeMario Pressley, Frank Okam, Carlton Powell, Frank Morton,
FB- Peyton Hillis,
S- David Roach, Caleb Campbell, Marcus Griffin,
OT- Chad Rinehart

[cmhargrove]

Ok Anubis, I'll use your "available picks" for my draft.

I'll agree at the top - #12 Chris Williams OT, Vanderbilt. He proved himself at LT for two very solid years against great competition. This kid is big and smart.

For our second pick - #42 Trevor Laws DT, Notre Dame. If I remember correctly, he had over 100 tackles in 2007 (that's insane for a DT - you can't coach that). Love his motor, sign Laws now - if he even falls to the second.

I sure wish we had a third...

#108 - Work with me here, this is actually a brilliant pick. This guy was the leading tackler in the SEC. He is fast as hell and can flat out play football. He has one year to learn the switch from OLB to SS so he can take over for Lynch next year. He could make an immediate impact on ST this year. Our #108 pick - Wesley Woodyard LB/SS, Kentucky.

#119 - Kevin Smith RB, UCF. Over 2500 yards rushing and 30 Td's in one season? Are you ****tin' me? This kid kept a 5.7 yard rushing average, and 10.1 receiving average. Red zone problems are over. We just found our new late round superstar, let him have #30, Bell is done.

#139 - Give it up for the big bone-on-bone boy, Dwayne Robertson. He's better than any other guy we could land here. First round talent on a two year knee rental.

#148 - Lavelle Hawkins Wr, Cal. Desean Jackson got all the limelight, but Hawkins got more done. He is probably a better receiver than Desean, and makes very acrobatic catches. Had a great Senior bowl with lots of big plays. 1800 all purpose yards last season. Had a 22 yard average as a kick returner (over 900 yards worth of returns in 2007). Has the skills to compete for #2 WR, kick return specialist.

Get kickers late or UDFA. We can always fill in late with O-line.

What 'ya think?

[Northman]

Ok Anubis, I'll use your "available picks" for my draft.

I'll agree at the top - #12 Chris Williams OT, Vanderbilt. He proved himself at LT for two very solid years against great competition. This kid is big and smart.

For our second pick - #42 Trevor Laws DT, Notre Dame. If I remember correctly, he had over 100 tackles in 2007 (that's insane for a DT - you can't coach that). Love his motor, sign Laws now - if he even falls to the second.

I sure wish we had a third...

#108 - Work with me here, this is actually a brilliant pick. This guy was the leading tackler in the SEC. He is fast as hell and can flat out play football. He has one year to learn the switch from OLB to SS so he can take over for Lynch next year. He could make an immediate impact on ST this year. Our #108 pick - Wesley Woodyard LB/SS, Kentucky.

#119 - Kevin Smith RB, UCF. Over 2500 yards rushing and 30 Td's in one season? Are you ****tin' me? This kid kept a 5.7 yard rushing average, and 10.1 receiving average. Red zone problems are over. We just found our new late round superstar, let him have #30, Bell is done.

#139 - Give it up for the big bone-on-bone boy, Dwayne Robertson. He's better than any other guy we could land here. First round talent on a two year knee rental.

#148 - Lavelle Hawkins Wr, Cal. Desean Jackson got all the limelight, but Hawkins got more done. He is probably a better receiver than Desean, and makes very acrobatic catches. Had a great Senior bowl with lots of big plays. 1800 all purpose yards last season. Had a 22 yard average as a kick returner (over 900 yards worth of returns in 2007). Has the skills to compete for #2 WR, kick return specialist.

Get kickers late or UDFA. We can always fill in late with O-line.

What 'ya think?


I still dont want Robertson but i could live with what you have chosen here. Nice job. ^5

[ColoradoBuff]

Solid job!

[RocBronc]

I don't like the Silva pick... He was a heck of a college outside linebacker but he's too small to play OLB in the pros and doesn't have the agility or speed to play S at the pro level.

[Northman]

I don't like the Silva pick... He was a heck of a college outside linebacker but he's too small to play OLB in the pros and doesn't have the agility or speed to play S at the pro level.


I disagree. He may not have a lot of speed but he has a nose and instinct for the ball. Ill take that anyday of the week. His play and hitting remind me of John Lynch. The guy just knows how to be at the right place. Speed isnt everything when it comes to the safety position and i would never put him at LB, he just isnt big enough for that. I wouldnt be surprised if he is one of the better safeties to come out of this class.

[Drek]

If I was to pluck talent from those lists for each pick I'd probably do this:

#12 - Rashard Mendenhall - I'm not really feeling OT this year. We still need to see what we have in Harris and Kuper (as an OT), and next year's class is looking to be at least as strong as this one with Oher, Boone, Monroe, etc.. We can afford to wait on OT. While I'd prefer to trade up and get one of the top DTs or trade down and select someone later if we're locked in at #12 Mendenhall is the best value we can get for a player who can contribute immediately.

#42 - Trevor Laws - Tears me up to pass on Hardy, but Laws will be a rock solid run stopping DT. We need both positions badly but we can get a solid WR in the later rounds, the same can't be said for DT.

#108 - Shawn Crable - If Crable is available in the 4th it strikes me as an aboslute no brainer. Great combination of size, speed, and strength. Groom him for a season or two on special teams then let him take over at strong side linebacker.

#119 - Jeremy Zuttah - Should be a solid RT in a year or two, for a 4th rounder he's excellent protection/competition for whomever we put out of Harris and Kuper at RT. Puts us in position to focus on a franchise LT next year to have the lines fully sorted.

#139 - Marcus Monk - Way too much upside to pass on here. Might not be able to stay healthy but he's exceptionally talented and makes plays when on the field.

#148 - Frank Okam - For a 5th round pick its worth taking a shot. He's smart enough to be a better technical player than he is, maybe the glamour and riches that the NFL offer will be enough to convince him its worth giving 100% every play.

I'd then love to see us move a 6th or 7th for Robertson, and grab BPA with the last two picks.

[Northman]

If I was to pluck talent from those lists for each pick I'd probably do this:

#12 - Rashard Mendenhall - I'm not really feeling OT this year. We still need to see what we have in Harris and Kuper (as an OT), and next year's class is looking to be at least as strong as this one with Oher, Boone, Monroe, etc.. We can afford to wait on OT. While I'd prefer to trade up and get one of the top DTs or trade down and select someone later if we're locked in at #12 Mendenhall is the best value we can get for a player who can contribute immediately.

#42 - Trevor Laws - Tears me up to pass on Hardy, but Laws will be a rock solid run stopping DT. We need both positions badly but we can get a solid WR in the later rounds, the same can't be said for DT.

#108 - Shawn Crable - If Crable is available in the 4th it strikes me as an aboslute no brainer. Great combination of size, speed, and strength. Groom him for a season or two on special teams then let him take over at strong side linebacker.

#119 - Jeremy Zuttah - Should be a solid RT in a year or two, for a 4th rounder he's excellent protection/competition for whomever we put out of Harris and Kuper at RT. Puts us in position to focus on a franchise LT next year to have the lines fully sorted.

#139 - Marcus Monk - Way too much upside to pass on here. Might not be able to stay healthy but he's exceptionally talented and makes plays when on the field.

#148 - Frank Okam - For a 5th round pick its worth taking a shot. He's smart enough to be a better technical player than he is, maybe the glamour and riches that the NFL offer will be enough to convince him its worth giving 100% every play.

I'd then love to see us move a 6th or 7th for Robertson, and grab BPA with the last two picks.


Im still not super crazy about taking a RB in the 1st but you have a pretty solid list there. I wouldnt cry over it. ^5

[Drek]

Im still not super crazy about taking a RB in the 1st but you have a pretty solid list there. I wouldnt cry over it. ^5

Assuming this source mock played out perfectly, I'd sacrifice a 1000 kittens for Ellis or Dorsey to slide down to #12, that or somehow trade up to get one of them without losing #42.

If we could bring in Dorsey or Ellis AND James Hardy we'd see this draft go down in history as an all time great for any franchise.

[Northman]

Assuming this source mock played out perfectly, I'd sacrifice a 1000 kittens for Ellis or Dorsey to slide down to #12, that or somehow trade up to get one of them without losing #42.

If we could bring in Dorsey or Ellis AND James Hardy we'd see this draft go down in history as an all time great for any franchise.


Anything can happen thats for sure. I saw one commentator (lombardi i think his name was) had Cincy taking McFadden, Jets taking Matt Ryan, and the Saints taking Ellis. If those players can drop that far there are a lot of possibilities if it played out like that.

[Dedhed]

Given that Board, I'd draft the following:

#12- Branden Albert, OT, Virginia
#42- Pat Sims, DT, Auburn
#108- Jonathan Goff, LB, Vanderbilt
#119- Wesley Woodyard, LB, Kentucky
#139- Dwayne Robertson, DT, NY Jets
#148- Lavelle Hawkins, WR, Cal

[Northman]

Given that Board, I'd draft the following:

#12- Branden Albert, OT, Virginia
#42- Pat Sims, DT, Auburn
#108- Jonathan Goff, LB, Vanderbilt
#119- Wesley Woodyard, LB, Kentucky
#139- Dwayne Robertson, DT, NY Jets
#148- Lavelle Hawkins, WR, Cal



Pretty nice although i would have passed on Woodyard and gone with another OT, WR, or RB there. I dont think we need that much depth at LB and Goff is the best out of those two.

[cmhargrove]

Pretty nice although i would have passed on Woodyard and gone with another OT, WR, or RB there. I dont think we need that much depth at LB and Goff is the best out of those two.

Woodyard is right around 220. The projection os 50/50 on whether he should be a strong safety or OLB in the pros. I think he could be a future pro bowl safety if he chooses to switch over. Led the SEC in tackles.

He would be an awesome replacement for Lynch at SS, and would have a year to learn his spot.

[Northman]

Woodyard is right around 220. The projection os 50/50 on whether he should be a strong safety or OLB in the pros. I think he could be a future pro bowl safety if he chooses to switch over. Led the SEC in tackles.

He would be an awesome replacement for Lynch at SS, and would have a year to learn his spot.


Well, if he moved to safety than it wouldnt be so bad i guess.

[TheReverend]

Woodyard is right around 220. The projection os 50/50 on whether he should be a strong safety or OLB in the pros. I think he could be a future pro bowl safety if he chooses to switch over. Led the SEC in tackles.

He would be an awesome replacement for Lynch at SS, and would have a year to learn his spot.

Anyone know how that Thomas Davis kid did at Carolina? Is he playing OLB now? Is he doing well?

[Dedhed]

Pretty nice although i would have passed on Woodyard and gone with another OT, WR, or RB there. I dont think we need that much depth at LB and Goff is the best out of those two.

I think Woodyard projects well to safety in the NFL, which is why I would go that direction. However, I agree with the LB take.