DP: Brandon Marshalls cast removed, comments on Cutler calling him out

[rovolution]

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_8833651

Marshall has cast removed
But rehab still month away
By Mike Klis
The Denver Post
Article Last Updated: 04/06/2008 10:58:20 PM MDT

Brandon Marshall: "I just want to get this behind me and get back on the field." (Post file)

The 102-catch forearm is healing.

Broncos receiver Brandon Marshall was in Florida during the weekend getting the heavy cast off his surgically repaired right forearm.

"The doctor said it looks good," Marshall said. "All we have to do now is wait for the artery to come around, but everything else is healing well."

Quarterback Jay Cutler last week expressed both support of Marshall and disappointment in the receiver's off-field mishap. Marshall's response?

"I'm fine. I don't want to talk about this situation anymore," Marshall said. "I don't even know all that was said. I just want to get this behind me and get back on the field."

Coming off a breakout season in which his 102 receptions ranked fifth in the NFL, Marshall was on a family vacation in Orlando, Fla., the morning of March 22, when a horseplay wrestling match ended with his arm going through an entertainment system.

Marshall, 24, was immediately whisked to a nearby hospital where he underwent emergency surgery to repair lacerations to an artery, a vein, a nerve, two tendons and three muscles in the forearm and elbow area. Although the cast has been removed, Marshall will remain in a sling for another four weeks, after which he can start rehabilitation.

Marshall's doctor in Florida and the Broncos' medical staff are optimistic Marshall will be ready for the start of training camp in late July. The question then will be how Marshall's arm will function while catching Cutler's high-velocity passes.

"The injury was a little scary, but the good thing about it is I'll be able to fully recover from it," Marshall said. "I'm feeling good."

[Northman]

"I'm fine. I don't want to talk about this situation anymore," Marshall said. "I don't even know all that was said. I just want to get this behind me and get back on the field."


Good answer.

[24champ]

"The injury was a little scary, but the good thing about it is I'll be able to fully recover from it," Marshall said. "I'm feeling good."

http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2007/10/01/topper-marshall.jpg

[CBF1]

Looks like Brandon knows who has the keys to the offense.

[fdf]

""The doctor said it looks good," Marshall said. "All we have to do now is wait for the artery to come around, but everything else is healing well.""

Well, thank God it's only the artery. They are so unimportant.

[Killericon]

Awesome.

[Kaylore]

Good. Now Marshall, actually move on - and grow up.

[BroncoBuff]

"All we have to do now is wait for the artery to come around."

Well, thank God it's only the artery. They are so unimportant.
That was my first thought ... if there's any chronic blood flow restriction, or permanent nerve damage or both, we might just have another "Claw" on the team. An A+ talent with a perma-numb wing :nono:

[Vegas_Bronco]

http://media.dailycamera.com/bdc/content/img/photos/2006/12/03/BRONCOS_SEAHAWKS_COBOU101_04_t120.jpg

Sounds like he watched General Conference today...I, too, feel like humble pie and can't wait to get to work! Good job Brandon!!! Hug it out b...!

[DukeWoody]

Hopefully the dark cloud has lifted and nothing but smooth sailing remains for him...Oh and plenty of pro bowls and championships to come...

[cutthemdown]

Hopefully the dark cloud has lifted and nothing but smooth sailing remains for him...Oh and plenty of pro bowls and championships to come...

I wouldn't hold your breath.

[Dr. Broncenstein]

"All we have to do is wait for the artery to come around"

Wait, what?

[Drek]

""The doctor said it looks good," Marshall said. "All we have to do now is wait for the artery to come around, but everything else is healing well.""

Well, thank God it's only the artery. They are so unimportant.

Its a hell of a lot better than him saying the exact same phrase with "nerve" in the place of "artery".

Arteries are put back together pretty regularly. Suicide attempts intentionally tear that **** up and almost none of them suffer life time disability for it. If the nerve wasn't too bad then we don't have nearly as much to worry about as we could have.

[Hogan11]

Good. Now Marshall, actually move on - and grow up.

His comments read like this episode gave him a little dose of needed humility.

Yup, now it's all up to him to live up to his own words.....hopefully he can.

[no-pseudo-fan]

I hope Brandon is OK. The team needs him, and he is the only person that can stop him from being the cream of the crop in the NFL. Brandon is the man, can not wait until the season starts.

[DarkHorse]

We'll see.

[Dr. Broncenstein]

http://dunamai.com/Humor/BagdadBob/images/bagdad_bob_large.gif

We are only waiting on the artery to come around. Brandon will be 100% by the time training camp starts. There is nothing to be concerned about.

[TailgateNut]

http://dunamai.com/Humor/BagdadBob/images/bagdad_bob_large.gif

We are only waiting on the artery to come around. Brandon will be 100% by the time training camp starts. There is nothing to be concerned about.


:spit:


DISCLAIMER: "this is just an opinion"

I think this little "accident" will be a story for years to come.

[cmhargrove]

Once, while in a bar fight, Chuck Norris pulled out his arteries and choked a man to death with them. Then he jump roped with them for a workout and put them back in.

True story, a friend of mine's dad was there.

[Dr. Broncenstein]

It must have been a Sharp TV...

/bud-a-dum-dum...

[Popcorn Sutton]

"I'm fine. I don't want to talk about this situation anymore," Marshall said. "I don't even know all that was said. I just want to get this behind me and get back on the field."

Atta boy... :thumbsup:

[Kaylore]

It must have been a Sharp TV...

/bud-a-dum-dum...

Hey, what's your professional opinion on slicing the crap out of your arm, nerve, artery and muscle tissue? What's reasonable to expect from an injury like that for a person who uses their hands to make their money?

[broncofan2438]

Yea, good thin he didn't fire back at Cutler. He was good about just moving on

[montrose]

Yea, good thin he didn't fire back at Cutler. He was good about just moving on

They're boys, I doubt it's a big deal. BMarsh is great, but he realizes this is Jay's team.

[Ratboy]

Hey, what's your professional opinion on slicing the crap out of your arm, nerve, artery and muscle tissue? What's reasonable to expect from an injury like that for a person who uses their hands to make their money?


Hand? I was under the impression it was his forearm.

[Kaylore]

Hand? I was under the impression it was his forearm.

Right, but the nerve runs down the arm to his hand. I suspect that everything from the injury out will be affected. At least that's what I'm hoping the Broncostein will tell me...

[Dr. Broncenstein]

Hey, what's your professional opinion on slicing the crap out of your arm, nerve, artery and muscle tissue? What's reasonable to expect from an injury like that for a person who uses their hands to make their money?

I would estimate that in 1 year with extensive rehab he might get 90% of his original function back... if things go really well...

[crowebomber]

I would estimate that in 1 year with extensive rehab he might get 90% of his original function back... if things go really well...

Wow. I know Dr. B doesn't have all the details on Marshall's situation, but he knows better than any of us. That doesn't sound real promising for this season.

[DarkHorse]

Wow. I know Dr. B doesn't have all the details on Marshall's situation, but he knows better than any of us. That doesn't sound real promising for this season.


What has looked/sounded promising from this off season so far?

[Northman]

Wow. I know Dr. B doesn't have all the details on Marshall's situation,

He doesnt so you have to take it with a grain of salt.

[alkemical]

I had cut my hand pretty bad, and it took about 2 years for it to "feel" normal - but overall the functionality was good.

[bpc]

I love all the people that think he is going to be back to normal by camp. The kid basically severed his arm at the forearm minus the bone. He could have died.

Yet hey, BMarsh and the Broncos officials say he'll be back in time for camp and everything will be great... just like Willie Middlebrooks broken leg, Tatum Bell's finger, Rod Smith's hip and TD's knee.

You all keep drinking this koolaid where BMarsh didn't do anything real stupid and he'll be back at peak form next year. KEEP dreaming. One of the only brightspots this team truly had just shat himself in yet another stupid, off the field incident.

[Punisher]

"I'm fine. I don't want to talk about this situation anymore," Marshall said. "I don't even know all that was said. I just want to get this behind me and get back on the field."


A Rod Smith type Response

[~Crash~]

I love all the people that think he is going to be back to normal by camp. The kid basically severed his arm at the forearm minus the bone. He could have died.

Yet hey, BMarsh and the Broncos officials say he'll be back in time for camp and everything will be great... just like Willie Middlebrooks broken leg, Tatum Bell's finger, Rod Smith's hip and TD's knee.

You all keep drinking this koolaid where BMarsh didn't do anything real stupid and he'll be back at peak form next year. KEEP dreaming. One of the only brightspots this team truly had just shat himself in yet another stupid, off the field incident.

well he could be dead there is always a bright spot . I wish brandon well and am still glad he is with us in the land of the breathing . the doctors in florida said TD would be fine by training camp???























LOL:wiggle:

[oubronco]

I'll tell you this my wife had to have surgery on her wrist and elbow because of the Ulnar nerve and carpal tunnel, it's been six months and she still doesn't have all feeling and strength back 100% after rehab so to think he will just come right back after his ordeal to me is obsurd it will take longer than he thinks

just my two cents

[theAPAOps5]

He could have lost an arm, bled out, bashed his head through instead, or dislocate his wrist.

There are a lot worse things that could have happened. We just have to wait and see how things progress.

[Dr. Broncenstein]

http://dunamai.com/Humor/BagdadBob/images/bagdad_bob_large.gif

It was only an accident. A simple mishap involving a television and a rogue food wrapper. It could have happened to anyone. His arm is fine. Brandon will be good as new in July. Severed muscles, tendons, nerves, and arteries take 3 months to heal. It was really really sharp glass...

[theAPAOps5]

We are stomping the Americans out severed arm nerves, arteries, and muscle one by one!

[SureShot]

http://dunamai.com/Humor/BagdadBob/images/bagdad_bob_large.gif

It was only an accident. A simple mishap involving a television and a rogue food wrapper. It could have happened to anyone. His arm is fine. Brandon will be good as new in July. Severed muscles, tendons, nerves, and arteries take 3 months to heal. It was really really sharp glass...

Good one Doc!:~ohyah!:

[footstepsfrom#27]

Cripes...does Shanny ever wonder why this crap keeps happening to the guys he drafts or brings in here via trade/free agency? The only positive I see in this mess is that we're going to see Jay get happy with throwing to Tony Scheffler. Maybe we'll see him move outside now.

[cmhargrove]

I saw this earlier on the internet, is this really Brandon Marshall's arm? If so, we're screwed...

[Conklin]

I saw this earlier on the internet, is this really Brandon Marshall's arm? If so, we're screwed...

it wasnt a break, it was a sever cut, had it been a break of that magnitude, he'd definately still be in a cast

[broncs2bowl]

I saw this earlier on the internet, is this really Brandon Marshall's arm? If so, we're screwed...

dude NO that is so obvious. He didnt crack his bones. That is just a gay joke or they were being sarcastic.

[cmhargrove]

dude NO that is so obvious. He didnt crack his bones. That is just a gay joke or they were being sarcastic.

Sorry, it's my "gay joke." I just can't stand picking this apart any more, it called for some levity.

Can't the draft get here already?

[Doggcow]

Good. Ill still draft him in fantasy.

[Kaylore]

http://dunamai.com/Humor/BagdadBob/images/bagdad_bob_large.gif

It was only an accident. A simple mishap involving a television and a rogue food wrapper. It could have happened to anyone. His arm is fine. Brandon will be good as new in July. Severed muscles, tendons, nerves, and arteries take 3 months to heal. It was really really sharp glass...

LOL

Here is an artists rendering of the rogue wrapper:
http://www.tacticaledge.co.uk/assets/ROS016.gif

[Los Broncos]

http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2007/10/01/topper-marshall.jpg

Dam, Sam Adams is a big dude.

[rubaiyat]

""The doctor said it looks good," Marshall said. "All we have to do now is wait for the artery to come around, but everything else is healing well.""

Well, thank God it's only the artery. They are so unimportant.

I suppose short term or in terms of making sure the tissue isn't necrotic...but long term, I would think the tendons, muscle or god help him the nerve being the more important, given the recuperative properties of blood vessels as compared to soft or nervous tissues.

[SureShot]

LOL

Here is an artists rendering of the rogue wrapper:
http://www.tacticaledge.co.uk/assets/ROS016.gif

That is totally incorrect. This is the true rendering.

21328

[Ratboy]

I would estimate that in 1 year with extensive rehab he might get 90% of his original function back... if things go really well...

I'm not his doctor, but again NEITHER are you.

[cutler_to_marshall]

Hey Doc Broncostein what kind of doctor are you ? Surgeon Im guessing ? Im going to be starting medical school and was wondering if you had any advice about getting a top notch residency ?

[Dr. Broncenstein]

I'm not his doctor, but again NEITHER are you.

I kind of figured that was understood....

Did you have to un-bury your head from the sand to point that out?

[Merlin]

The one thing that must be considered, elite athletes in many cases heal faster and better than your avg couch potato. So general stats for recovery are probably not applicable in this case, but then again 3 months for arteries, tendons and muscles sounds way too quick for any reasonable estimate.

[worm]

Every dropped pass next year will be chalked up to this injury.

[azbroncfan]

All talk so far and no show about not being a SH@THEAD.

[Spider]

Nrandon needs to quit milking it

[Ratboy]

I kind of figured that was understood....

Did you have to un-bury your head from the sand to point that out?

I'm not dissing you or trying to discredit what you know, but having not been checked out by you, there is no real estimate on how fast his arm can heal.

[BroncoMan4ever]

:spit:


DISCLAIMER: "this is just an opinion"

I think this little "accident" will be a story for years to come.

hopefully in around 15 years it is a little joke of a story that is remembered by real fans when he is getting inducted into the ring of fame after a hall of fame career comes to an end.

[Dr. Broncenstein]

Hey Doc Broncostein what kind of doctor are you ? Surgeon Im guessing ? Im going to be starting medical school and was wondering if you had any advice about getting a top notch residency ?

I'm 3 months away from finishing my surgery residency. I do general surgery, peripheral vascular surgery, trauma, bariatrics, and endoscopy (except ERCP).

Getting a certain residency is such a variable thing. The easiest way to make yourself competitive is to rank highly in your class. But that isn't always the key.... they have to like you. Rotate electively at the programs you are seriously considering, and work your ass off... and be cool. Remember that residents from different programs talk to each other all of the time, so don't dog it on peds or IM even if it sucks.

[Spider]

Come on ........every one knows Brandon is milking this for everything it is worth .... hell I ripped my arm wide open , very deep with a piece of scrape metal while loading my truck .. took a sock put it over the wound and used black tape to hold the sock in place . couldnt use my arm for a week but now it is just fine .......didnt even get a tetanus shot

[kmartin575]

Hand? I was under the impression it was his forearm.

And the hands are attached to the forearm, hence why this could affect his hands. Ha!

[Florida_Bronco]

Come on ........every one knows Brandon is milking this for everything it is worth .... hell I ripped my arm wide open , very deep with a piece of scrape metal while loading my truck .. took a sock put it over the wound and used black tape to hold the sock in place . couldnt use my arm for a week but now it is just fine .......didnt even get a tetanus shot

That's because you're a ****in badass! :strong:

[Spider]

That's because you're a ****in badass! :strong:

;D thinking of getting a first aid kit in my truck ....... I constantly cutting my self , or spraining an ankle ,wrist or something .then there is that slight temper problem i have ;D

[Inkana7]

And the hands are attached to the forearm, hence why this could affect his hands. Ha!

They're also attached to his legs. Could it affect them?

[cutler_to_marshall]

I'm 3 months away from finishing my surgery residency. I do general surgery, peripheral vascular surgery, trauma, bariatrics, and endoscopy (except ERCP).

Getting a certain residency is such a variable thing. The easiest way to make yourself competitive is to rank highly in your class. But that isn't always the key.... they have to like you. Rotate electively at the programs you are seriously considering, and work your ass off... and be cool. Remember that residents from different programs talk to each other all of the time, so don't dog it on peds or IM even if it sucks.

Thanks for the info man. I actually wanted to go to IM and then invasive cardiology so i woudldnt be dogging it on IM at all ! (or i hope not ).

Do you find that you work all the time as a surgical resident ?

[Dr. Broncenstein]

Thanks for the info man. I actually wanted to go to IM and then invasive cardiology so i woudldnt be dogging it on IM at all ! (or i hope not ).

Do you find that you work all the time as a surgical resident ?

Not this year.... but I just about lost my mind years 1-3. It got a little better last year. Its been cake this year. All I do is operate. No clinic. Very little call..... and I'm backing up the PGY1's when I am on call. Its good to be chief.

[SureShot]

That's because you're a ****in badass! :strong:

Yeah he may still be able to load a truck like Spider, but he probably can't catch a cold.:wiggle:

[Spider]

Yeah he may still be able to load a truck like Spider, but he probably can't catch a cold.:wiggle:

;D it is much harder then it looks

[minibronco]

"All we have to do is wait for the artery to come around"

Wait, what?

Hahahahaha. My thoughts exactly.


Good answer, anyway.

[Hogan11]

I'm surprised no one has photoshopped the Forgetting Sarah Marshall flyer yet

[Beantown Bronco]

I'm not dissing you or trying to discredit what you know, but having not been checked out by you, there is no real estimate on how fast his arm can heal.

I don't have to examine my wife's friend to know that her pregnancy is most likely going to last around 9 months.

To say that estimates aren't used in the medical profession, with a good degree of accuracy, is crazy.

[Kaylore]

I don't have to examine my wife's friend to know that her pregnancy is most likely going to last around 9 months.

To say that estimates aren't used in the medical profession, with a good degree of accuracy, is crazy.

I think your analogy is flawed. Billions of women get pregnant and there are thousands of years of history and experience with pregnancy to understand how it works. How many people do you know that have failed their savings throw against a McDonald's wrapper and suffered 1D12 + 3 points of damage to their arm from a vorpal entertainment center?

[Beantown Bronco]

I think your analogy is flawed. Billions of women get pregnant and there are thousands of years of history and experience with pregnancy to understand how it works. How many people do you know that have failed their savings throw against a McDonald's wrapper and suffered 1D12 + 3 points of damage to their arm from a vorpal entertainment center?

Your analogy is overly specific. Look at it this way:

How many women do you know that were impregnated by me? Just because a woman wasn't impregnated by me doesn't mean I don't know how long the average pregnancy lasts....the circumstances around that pregnancy don't matter. Just the end results matter.

The same goes for his injury. Sure, I don't know anyone else who has hurt themselves in exactly the manner he did; but the end result of that odd chain of events was a specific injury that is not unique to most practicing doctors and has a predictable recovery time.

[alkemical]

I think your analogy is flawed. Billions of women get pregnant and there are thousands of years of history and experience with pregnancy to understand how it works. How many people do you know that have failed their savings throw against a McDonald's wrapper and suffered 1D12 + 3 points of damage to their arm from a vorpal entertainment center?


I dunno - i've had many accidents that are "freak" accidents.....

I fell into a camp fire (not drunk, the chair pushed me in)

I slipped and fell on the bumper of a car, and got cut clear to my stomach....

I had a stress facture in my foot from missing a step....

I broke my arm falling off of a tree stump....i then later knocked myself out with my own broken arm falling down a flight of steps.....

so.... i dunno - i've seen wierd accidents...

[Kaylore]

Your analogy is overly specific.
What analogy?

How many women do you know that were impregnated by me? Just because a woman wasn't impregnated by me doesn't mean I don't know how long the average pregnancy lasts....the circumstances around that pregnancy don't matter. Just the end results matter.

The same goes for his injury. Sure, I don't know anyone else who has hurt themselves in exactly the manner he did; but the end result of that odd chain of events was a specific injury that is not unique to most practicing doctors and has a predictable recovery time.
No, that doesn't work. I would bet that there aren't a lot of athletes that use their hands like him who have had their nerve, artery and tendons sliced up. We have no idea how this will affect his ability to play the game. Saying it's like a pregnancy is fallacious (http://www.tektonics.org/guest/fallacies.html#950).

[Kaylore]

I dunno - i've had many accidents that are "freak" accidents.....

I fell into a camp fire (not drunk, the chair pushed me in)

I slipped and fell on the bumper of a car, and got cut clear to my stomach....

I had a stress facture in my foot from missing a step....

I broke my arm falling off of a tree stump....i then later knocked myself out with my own broken arm falling down a flight of steps.....

so.... i dunno - i've seen wierd accidents...

I think you totally missed my point.

[Dr. Broncenstein]

I think your analogy is flawed. Billions of women get pregnant and there are thousands of years of history and experience with pregnancy to understand how it works. How many people do you know that have failed their savings throw against a McDonald's wrapper and suffered 1D12 + 3 points of damage to their arm from a vorpal entertainment center?

http://themot.org/gallery/d/33727-1/SpockWin.jpg

[Spider]

everyone turned into Marcus Welby MD on this thread

[TailgateNut]

What analogy?


No, that doesn't work. I would bet that there aren't a lot of athletes that use their hands like him who have had their nerve, artery and tendons sliced up. We have no idea how this will affect his ability to play the game. Saying it's like a pregnancy is fallacious (http://www.tektonics.org/guest/fallacies.html#950).

Maybe there aren't a lot of athletes who have damaged their limbs as severely as Brandon managed to "accomplish" with the "assistance of a fast food chain", but the damage done is not as rare and surgeons can and do use historical data to predict the time it will take for mormal range of motion and feeling to return to the damaged tissue (muscle, nerve and tendons).

[Beantown Bronco]

No, that doesn't work. I would bet that there aren't a lot of athletes that use their hands like him who have had their nerve, artery and tendons sliced up. We have no idea how this will affect his ability to play the game. Saying it's like a pregnancy is fallacious (http://www.tektonics.org/guest/fallacies.html#950).

If it were that rare an injury for an athlete that relies on their hands, I think it would be safe to assume he'd be on a plane seeing specialists every day and not relying solely on the first doctor to see him after the injury. The fact that he is not tells me all I need to know.

[alkemical]

I think you totally missed my point.

it's possible - this brandon marshall thing is really f'n dumb. He got in a knife fight, no he got hurt wrestling alligators, wait no -

[Meck77]

None of us really know what happened and we certainly don't know the extent of the injury.

Based on the articles I've read I'm more concerned about the nerve damage yet this latest news seems to focus on the artery.

Either way I don't expect the same level of production out of him and don't expect him to be on the field at the beginning of the season. If he does play I don't expect to see him stiff arming DBs like rag dolls like he use to.

It could take a couple years to work thru that nerve damage. Having suffered just a cut nerve in my foot I can't see how that arm will function properly in a couple months.

It took me more than a year to even walk properly from a small cut that effected the feeling in several toes. Walker's injury sounds much worse. I guess he does have another hand and can trap the ball with his claw.

[Beantown Bronco]

It took me more than a year to even walk properly from a small cut that effected the feeling in several toes. Walker's injury sounds much worse. I guess he does have another hand and can trap the ball with his claw.

There's a slip up if ever I saw one. :)

[Kaylore]

It took me more than a year to even walk properly from a small cut that effected the feeling in several toes. Walker's injury sounds much worse. I guess he does have another hand and can trap the ball with his claw.
Oh no....

The CLAW 2

Son of the CLAW!

http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/96/28/23182896.jpg

[Merlin]

so.... i dunno - i've seen wierd accidents...
:spit: Talk about an understatement. Sorry, not trying to make light of your misfortune, but :rofl: Sometimes, that is all you can do. Hope your fortunes have changed since ;)

[kappys]

Hey Doc Broncostein what kind of doctor are you ? Surgeon Im guessing ? Im going to be starting medical school and was wondering if you had any advice about getting a top notch residency ?

Personally I think the real key to residency is to make yourself competitive via grades and board scores, that way you'll have your pick. I honestly wouldn't worry about it too much for your first 2 years, just focus on doing well in classes. Once you are into your third year you'll figure out what you like. I read something that the average person switched his mind 3-4 times during med school, which was my experience.

[gunns]

They're also attached to his legs. Could it affect them?

Hands attached to his leg? Oh yeah, Cutler gave it to him in the a**

[Spider]

Hands attached to his leg? Oh yeah, Cutler gave it to him in the a**

my entire image of you has been shattered princess ...... not that is a bad thing ;D

[alkemical]

:spit: Talk about an understatement. Sorry, not trying to make light of your misfortune, but :rofl: Sometimes, that is all you can do. Hope your fortunes have changed since ;)

no, please laugh. I have too - it's the only way i can cope. :)

I've been alright since then, but i did drop a whole cup of coffee @ the convience store this AM.

[SJ Bronco]

Once, while in a bar fight, Chuck Norris pulled out his arteries and choked a man to death with them. Then he jump roped with them for a workout and put them back in.

True story, a friend of mine's dad was there

LMAO!