View Full Version : Broncos 1st Round Selection will be...
Traveler
03-30-2008, 04:20 PM
Make predictions here....(mods can sticky if need be)
Punisher
03-30-2008, 04:26 PM
Vandy's Chris Williams
Traveler
03-30-2008, 04:32 PM
Although I'd prefer the team to solidify the trenches, my guess is that they'll select Illinois RB Rashard Mendenhall.
peacepipe
03-30-2008, 04:42 PM
An OT or a RB? Ah hell, I'll say they go OL Brandon Albert.
Punisher
03-30-2008, 04:45 PM
An OT or a RB? Ah hell, I'll say they go OL Brandon Albert.
Yea I'm starting to lean on Brandon Albert as well it's a seesaw battle between
Albert and Williams for me :approve:
NFLBRONCO
03-30-2008, 05:03 PM
I can understand
Mendenhall
Albert
Williams selections at 12
My sleeper at 12-17 if we move down: Devin Thomas WR
montrose
03-30-2008, 05:07 PM
Here's a gut prediction for everyone: the Broncos won't make a 1st round selection this year! They'll deal their first rounder for a 1st rounder next year and some mid-round picks. I'm thinking similar to the trade made with Washington in 2005 when Denver dealt their 2005 1st rounder to Washington for their 2005 3rd rounder, 2006 1st rounder and 2006 4th rounder. Obviously that was for the #25 overall pick and this is #12, so it would require more value. Call it a hunch or strange feeling...
JCMElway
03-30-2008, 05:12 PM
Traveler, you ought to take this thread down and repost it as a poll question! You could have 6 or so obvious choices and then the choice of "other."
This thread is a good idea, the data will be easier to see if a poll is attached.
Punisher
03-30-2008, 05:24 PM
Traveler, you ought to take this thread down and repost it as a poll question! You could have 6 or so obvious choices and then the choice of "other."
This thread is a good idea, the data will be easier to see if a poll is attached.
I think the Thread is fine i kind of don't like polls because your forced to make a choice as for this thread you can just make up your own opinion
JCMElway
03-30-2008, 05:39 PM
I think the Thread is fine i kind of don't like polls because your forced to make a choice as for this thread you can just make up your own opinion
I don't see the difference. If your choice is there, you click on it. If it's not there you click the "other" option, and then explain your option in your post.
broncos-rock
03-30-2008, 06:27 PM
I think Sedrick Ellis slides or we go up after him but the selection will be Sedrick Ellis DT.
Rohirrim
03-30-2008, 06:43 PM
Let's see... an injured LB from some school nobody has ever heard of, like Illinois Polytech or something, who would have been available as a UDFA and has "tons of upside" once the cast comes off. ;D
peacepipe
03-30-2008, 07:14 PM
Here's a gut prediction for everyone: the Broncos won't make a 1st round selection this year! They'll deal their first rounder for a 1st rounder next year and some mid-round picks. I'm thinking similar to the trade made with Washington in 2005 when Denver dealt their 2005 1st rounder to Washington for their 2005 3rd rounder, 2006 1st rounder and 2006 4th rounder. Obviously that was for the #25 overall pick and this is #12, so it would require more value. Call it a hunch or strange feeling...Not that what your saying won't happen but considering that this draft has a top heavy supply of OL,meaning that after Long,clady,albert & williams there's a big drop in talent. One thing that sticks out to me is that the NFL is a copycat league. The one thing every team is trying to copy is the protection Brady got from his OL & the pressure that NY giants were able to give with their front four. In the SB we saw which side won but this draft you can expect from my point of view that DL & OL are going to go quick & often. Would hate to see the Broncos trade themselves out of a great pick.
Let's see... an injured LB from some school nobody has ever heard of, like Illinois Polytech or something, who would have been available as a UDFA and has "tons of upside" once the cast comes off. ;D
ROFL!
Traveler
03-30-2008, 07:48 PM
Traveler, you ought to take this thread down and repost it as a poll question! You could have 6 or so obvious choices and then the choice of "other."
This thread is a good idea, the data will be easier to see if a poll is attached.
I thought about it but didn't want to limit anyone's choices
BroncoBuff
03-30-2008, 08:00 PM
If we're stuck at 12, I will PREDICT Branden Albert.
Either he or Kuper will be RTOTF, the other starts at LG.
orinjkrush
03-30-2008, 09:27 PM
Im thinkin Obama in the first round.
mattob14
03-30-2008, 09:31 PM
Here's a gut prediction for everyone: the Broncos won't make a 1st round selection this year! They'll deal their first rounder for a 1st rounder next year and some mid-round picks. I'm thinking similar to the trade made with Washington in 2005 when Denver dealt their 2005 1st rounder to Washington for their 2005 3rd rounder, 2006 1st rounder and 2006 4th rounder. Obviously that was for the #25 overall pick and this is #12, so it would require more value. Call it a hunch or strange feeling...
I actually mentioned the same thing earlier. I'm not sure we'll get a ton of extra value out of #12, but I'd love an early-mid 2nd and a 1st next year. If we could pick up Nicks or Cherilus and one of Sims, Laws, Harrison, or Moore on the 1st day while adding a 1st next year, I'd consider it a success.
montrose
03-31-2008, 12:43 PM
Not that what your saying won't happen but considering that this draft has a top heavy supply of OL,meaning that after Long,clady,albert & williams there's a big drop in talent. One thing that sticks out to me is that the NFL is a copycat league. The one thing every team is trying to copy is the protection Brady got from his OL & the pressure that NY giants were able to give with their front four. In the SB we saw which side won but this draft you can expect from my point of view that DL & OL are going to go quick & often. Would hate to see the Broncos trade themselves out of a great pick.
Oh I agree. That's why the Broncos should stay at the pick until their selection is up. If the guy they like on the OL or DL is there, great. If not, moving out of the round all together makes sense too.
I actually mentioned the same thing earlier. I'm not sure we'll get a ton of extra value out of #12, but I'd love an early-mid 2nd and a 1st next year. If we could pick up Nicks or Cherilus and one of Sims, Laws, Harrison, or Moore on the 1st day while adding a 1st next year, I'd consider it a success.
I'm not so sure we'll get great value either, but it gets us off the hook for paying big money to a player that may not want to. Picking at #12 is just an awkward place where we're looking at paying a lot of money but there doesn't appear to be a guy whose going to be a big time difference maker. Through all of these threads we're discussing RT's and #2 WR's, hell we're even throwing out RB's just to get good value. Getting out of the round, picking up some extra selections this year and having two firsts next year is very appealing. The Broncos can bring in the influx of cheaper talent in the mid-rounds this year, following their pattern of strong budgeting, and next year have two firsts to play with when they should have a stronger idea of their weaknesses (is LB fixed?, Harris a LT? need a safety?, etc.).
dbfan21
03-31-2008, 01:20 PM
Just to stir things up a bit, I think we will buck the trend and trade up. Then we will select McFadden who will be our franchise RB for the next 10 years.
Flame away! :welcome:
Rohirrim
03-31-2008, 01:57 PM
Chris Williams.
oubronco
03-31-2008, 02:47 PM
after watching them try to trade for Robertson and other DT's I think that shanny will take the best available DT thats left at 12
cmhargrove
03-31-2008, 02:58 PM
Just to stir things up a bit, I think we will buck the trend and trade up. Then we will select McFadden who will be our franchise RB for the next 10 years.
Flame away! :welcome:
How about we trade up for Adrian Peterson... Oh crap, wrong year.
As I said before, get used to McFadden wearing silver and black unless Chris Long falls to their spot.
mattob14
03-31-2008, 03:01 PM
I'm not so sure we'll get great value either, but it gets us off the hook for paying big money to a player that may not want to. Picking at #12 is just an awkward place where we're looking at paying a lot of money but there doesn't appear to be a guy whose going to be a big time difference maker. Through all of these threads we're discussing RT's and #2 WR's, hell we're even throwing out RB's just to get good value. Getting out of the round, picking up some extra selections this year and having two firsts next year is very appealing. The Broncos can bring in the influx of cheaper talent in the mid-rounds this year, following their pattern of strong budgeting, and next year have two firsts to play with when they should have a stronger idea of their weaknesses (is LB fixed?, Harris a LT? need a safety?, etc.).
My thoughts exactly. I don't know that there will be a big difference in the talent at either OT or DT between the 12th pick and even the 42nd pick (unless Clady falls to #12). Given that, save money and add a pick or 2 next year. This year we can add depth and hopefully a couple of players emerge, filling long-term holes. Next year the Safety and MLB classes should be much stronger, at least at the top, if Niko and the Safeties don't look to be the answer down the road.
There will be a trade with the Texans as they move up to grab Mendenhall.
The Broncs will then select Otah.
SoDak Bronco
04-01-2008, 11:41 PM
Ryan Clady or Chris Williams
SureShot
04-02-2008, 03:22 AM
Desean Jackson
oubronco
04-02-2008, 09:48 AM
Brandon Albert or Chris Williams
MO<1>
04-03-2008, 02:36 PM
Chris Williams will be the 12th pick, but will it be to Denver or Houston? Only Kubiak and Shanahan know. Cutler wants Williams.
Kaylore
04-03-2008, 05:37 PM
I want it to be Brandon Albert but we'll probably reach for someone lame like DeSean Jackson or Kenny Phillips.
SpringStein
04-03-2008, 07:28 PM
I believe Williams would be the leading candidate at 12.
DBroncos4life
04-03-2008, 08:35 PM
I'm warming up to the Jackson pick.
peacepipe
04-03-2008, 08:40 PM
I want it to be Brandon Albert but we'll probably reach for someone lame like DeSean Jackson or Kenny Phillips. Don't know if this has been posted but Kiper has Albert going at pick #5 to KC
montrose
04-03-2008, 09:08 PM
I'm warming up to the Jackson pick.
I am as well, this pending that Denver doesn't like any of the LT's available at the time more than Kuper/Harris. I've been a huge proponent that our OL is our biggest weakness, and I also hate the thought of taking Jackson (or anyone else for that matter) at #12. But if we can't move down and the FO doesn't see Williams, Clady or Albert as a franchise LT, I won't see taking Jackson as the end of the world. The way I look at it is, at the least, we'd bringing in a potentially explosive return guy which has been lacking since Darrien Gordon.
Cris Carter was breaking down Jackson today and said he was the best WR in the draft because he gets separation at the line has the rare speed to beat any coverage. He also said that a team with a good run game could make Jackson even more dangerous off playaction. He compared Jackson's skill set to Steve Smith, but mentioned he didn't know if Jackson and Smith's toughness.
I fully understand that WR's often take a while to develop in the NFL, but if there's no franchise LT available - Jackson brings an immediate impact in the return game and has a skill set that compliments Marshall better than any of the other 1st round WR's, IMO. If Jackson can use his speed to threaten secondaries, it would take a tremendous amount of pressure off Marshall, Stokley and Scheffler to work the intermediate area of the field. While a liked the Keary Colbert pickup as an inexpensive option, I don't see him as a long-term answer at WR because he quite simply doesn't scare defenses into altering coverages which was a problem at times last year when Javon went out. It reminded me of the our offense during the Griese years (although that was more of a problem of lack of QB arm strength, similar to the Jets) when teams were able to play defense without a true fear of being beaten deep. It was a large reason why Lelie was brought in, and although Plummer didn't have a rocket by any means, the Broncos offense was able to improve despite Plummer playing with arguably less talented weapons. While Plummer himself was an upgrade, which certainly helped, the presence of Lelie - a true deep threat played a role as well.
My personal first preference is to obviously move down. Player wise, I like Chris Williams the more I see of him and truly believe he could be our franchise LT for years to come with Harris on the right side. My second choice is Brenden Albert and third is Kentwan Balmer. I believe #12 is high for Balmer as he's projected in the early 20's I believe and high for Albert as he's going to be a G or RT which would make him vastly overpaid. With that, I think those three guys could help tremendously in the short and long terms. If we don't go OL or DL, my next choice would be... gulp... Jackson because of my reasons listed above.
DBroncos4life
04-03-2008, 09:24 PM
I am as well, this pending that Denver doesn't like any of the LT's available at the time more than Kuper/Harris. I've been a huge proponent that our OL is our biggest weakness, and I also hate the thought of taking Jackson (or anyone else for that matter) at #12. But if we can't move down and the FO doesn't see Williams, Clady or Albert as a franchise LT, I won't see taking Jackson as the end of the world. The way I look at it is, at the least, we'd bringing in a potentially explosive return guy which has been lacking since Darrien Gordon.
Cris Carter was breaking down Jackson today and said he was the best WR in the draft because he gets separation at the line has the rare speed to beat any coverage. He also said that a team with a good run game could make Jackson even more dangerous off playaction. He compared Jackson's skill set to Steve Smith, but mentioned he didn't know if Jackson and Smith's toughness.
I fully understand that WR's often take a while to develop in the NFL, but if there's no franchise LT available - Jackson brings an immediate impact in the return game and has a skill set that compliments Marshall better than any of the other 1st round WR's, IMO. If Jackson can use his speed to threaten secondaries, it would take a tremendous amount of pressure off Marshall, Stokley and Scheffler to work the intermediate area of the field. While a liked the Keary Colbert pickup as an inexpensive option, I don't see him as a long-term answer at WR because he quite simply doesn't scare defenses into altering coverages which was a problem at times last year when Javon went out. It reminded me of the our offense during the Griese years (although that was more of a problem of lack of QB arm strength, similar to the Jets) when teams were able to play defense without a true fear of being beaten deep. It was a large reason why Lelie was brought in, and although Plummer didn't have a rocket by any means, the Broncos offense was able to improve despite Plummer playing with arguably less talented weapons. While Plummer himself was an upgrade, which certainly helped, the presence of Lelie - a true deep threat played a role as well.
My personal first preference is to obviously move down. Player wise, I like Chris Williams the more I see of him and truly believe he could be our franchise LT for years to come with Harris on the right side. My second choice is Brenden Albert and third is Kentwan Balmer. I believe #12 is high for Balmer as he's projected in the early 20's I believe and high for Albert as he's going to be a G or RT which would make him vastly overpaid. With that, I think those three guys could help tremendously in the short and long terms. If we don't go OL or DL, my next choice would be... gulp... Jackson because of my reasons listed above.
I saw that on espn as well.
Billy Clyde Puckett
04-03-2008, 09:53 PM
Don't waste the pick on Jackson. In the 4th or 5th take the most un-talked about receiver in the draft. Kenny Moore of Wake Forest. Not a blazer, but never drops anything, is a crafty runner after the catch (including punt return experience) and runs perfect routes. A Marvin Harrison style player who loves to return punts.
s0phr0syne
04-03-2008, 09:58 PM
What I would be most EXCITED by (in order of preference):
D. Thomas
B. Albert
C. Williams
J. Otah
What I think the team NEEDS most (in order):
C.Williams/J. Otah
B. Albert
D. Thomas
I could be totally wrong on this, but I think Devin Thomas is going to be the best WR in the 1st round. He could immediately contribute in the return game, and even push Colbert to be better. By next year he could be our #2, assuming that BMarsh learns how to use his right arm again.
bap454
04-03-2008, 10:31 PM
The shocker of the draft...... WE DRAFT WR AT TWELVE! Just havent decided if its going to be Desean J., M. Kelly, or Devin Thomas. No Safety pickup in the draft. Then some how... some way Ali Highsmith - LSU will be a Denver Bronco. Just gut feelings here.... bank on it!
cmhargrove
04-03-2008, 11:41 PM
Wait on WR.
Trade down and pick up a third - take Earl Bennett. Cutler can already throw to this kid with his eyes closed.
Double dip with the second pick in the fourth round - Dexter Jackson. Now you have your KR / deep threat.
You get both those guys for a better price than a receiver at #12.
First round Williams, Albert, or Clady.
Mediator12
04-03-2008, 11:55 PM
Don't waste the pick on Jackson. In the 4th or 5th take the most un-talked about receiver in the draft. Kenny Moore of Wake Forest. Not a blazer, but never drops anything, is a crafty runner after the catch (including punt return experience) and runs perfect routes. A Marvin Harrison style player who loves to return punts.
We think so alike on players! Wasn't it you who liked Mark Anderson a few years ago with me?
Kenneth Moore is going to be my sleeper pick this year and I was waiting to draft him in the OM draft.
Here is a good Bio:
Name: Kenneth Moore
College: Wake Forest Number: 21
Height: 5-11 Weight: 195
Position: WR Pos2: RB/CB/KR
Class/Draft Year: rSr/2008
40 Time: 4.47
Overview: An all-purpose player who made a name for himself as a receiver and return man in 2007 after stepping in at running back as a junior to make up for various injuries at the position. A first-team All-ACC selection, Moore had 98 catches for 1,011 yards and five touchdowns - including two games with 15 catches each. He also gained 316 yards on 44 carries (three touchdowns) and 355 yards on 34 punt returns (one score). He may get looks at all three spots in a team's training camp.
Analysis
Positives: Solid build and is difficult to bring down in the open field. ... Eludes the first man consistently with a bit of shiftiness. ... Good vision to find the hole when running and in the open field in space as a receiver. ... Solid concentration, snatching the ball and adjusting to poor throws in the open or in traffic. ... Lined up all over the field in 2007, using his shiftiness to make plays on short screens, reverses and quick passes into the flat. ... Solid, but not explosive, punt returner who runs upfield and doesn't dance. ... Excellent effort in all aspects of his game, even blocking downfield.
summerdenver
04-03-2008, 11:59 PM
My dream scenario would be for either of Dorsey, Ellis or Jake Long available at 12 but I doubt that will happen.
I think Broncos will try to move down and use the additional pick for drafting Earl Bennet (if he is avilable). If we can't trade down, they will take BPA irrespective of needs as I truly believe we are building for the long haul. IMO the BPA at 12 will be a RB (Mendenhall or Stewart)
CHANGSTER
04-04-2008, 12:01 AM
It would be great if we could trade back just a couple picks and still get a top OT. Depends how it plays out I suppose. I'm going with Chris Williams.
wabbit
04-04-2008, 01:49 AM
In discussions with some pretty knowledgeable people today, I learned that the Denver staff has developed a real liking for LB Keith River from USC.
It would seem the staff likes OT Jake Long so much that if they can't have him...and they can't, they very possibly could pass on, what some are labeling 'second stringer' OTs.
Frankly, depressed the hell out of me, but, these folks...as a group, have been right on the money in years past...with one big, big exception...Jay Cutler...'won't happen' they said right up to draft day...and that is a huge whiff, so take it for what it's worth.
Long shots I would love:
1. Glenn Dorsey
2. Sed Ellis (basically anybody who could walk in and start at DT)
3. Chris Long
Guys that make sense:
1. Chris Williams
2. Ryan Clady
BPA:
1. Branden Albert
2. Rashad Mendenhall
What the FO and Shanny will do:
1. Keith Rivers
2. Kenny Phillips
3. A CB, any CB.
My personal selection, I feel like I would extremely happy with Williams or Albert. I think both players are going to be in the league performing at a high level for the next 10 years.
Killericon
04-04-2008, 03:16 AM
Chris Williams...Which I'm fine with.
s0phr0syne
04-04-2008, 11:00 AM
To me, it seems that if we got Rivers, that there's no way we'll be able to resign DJ at the end of this year because of the huge contract that you have to dole out to someone at #12.
That's obviously a bit of a gamble if Rivers doesn't work out and if DJ returns to his rookie year form back at WILL.
Do you think DJ will command a top tier FA salary by the end of this by the end of this year, and if so do you think we're better off to pay him or get someone else?
Beantown Bronco
04-04-2008, 11:10 AM
If the Broncos draft a WR at #12, how long before Brandon Marshall starts b*tching about making 10% of the money the rookie makes this season?
s0phr0syne
04-04-2008, 11:30 AM
I think that if Marshall has another season like last year, there's no way that we don't try to extend or sign him to a real contract. I think that happens regardless of who else we have on the team because we're paying him basically nothing as a 4th round pick right now. It's also to our advantage to try and secure him to a long term deal before he wants real FA money.
Kaylore
04-04-2008, 11:32 AM
In discussions with some pretty knowledgeable people today, I learned that the Denver staff has developed a real liking for LB Keith River from USC.
:bomb: :garcia: :notthissh
It would seem the staff likes OT Jake Long so much that if they can't have him...and they can't, they very possibly could pass on, what some are labeling 'second stringer' OTs.
Frankly, depressed the hell out of me, but, these folks...as a group, have been right on the money in years past...with one big, big exception...Jay Cutler...'won't happen' they said right up to draft day...and that is a huge whiff, so take it for what it's worth.
That should surprise no one. It could be disinformation, but regardless it's not out of sorts with how the Broncos roll. We don't take offensive linemen early. We don't start rookie linemen. These two facts about our draft practices justify each other and should prepare people for us not taking an offensive lineman early. If we pass on a Clady for Keith Rivers I'll go Orange 4 Life on this place! http://wtfdetroit.com/forums/images/smilies/icon_melt.gif
mattob14
04-04-2008, 03:13 PM
In discussions with some pretty knowledgeable people today, I learned that the Denver staff has developed a real liking for LB Keith River from USC.
It would seem the staff likes OT Jake Long so much that if they can't have him...and they can't, they very possibly could pass on, what some are labeling 'second stringer' OTs.
Frankly, depressed the hell out of me, but, these folks...as a group, have been right on the money in years past...with one big, big exception...Jay Cutler...'won't happen' they said right up to draft day...and that is a huge whiff, so take it for what it's worth.
wabbit, you just ruined my day. Hopefully Rivers goes #10 or #11 so the FO isn't even tempted, but that'd be a horrible pick, imo. I could probably live with passing on an OT for someone like Mendenhall, but we just don't need an OLB.
MABroncoFan
04-04-2008, 06:17 PM
With DJ moving back outside and B. Bailey coming in, why would they take another OLB in Rivers? He could be gone anyway.
I'd guess a WR like Jackson or RB Rashard Mendenhall if we stay at 12. J. Long should be gone, and so should Dorsey and Ellis.
RocBronc
04-04-2008, 06:34 PM
I just can't see Rivers with them already saying D.J. is moving back outside and bringing in Bailey and the kid from Seattle. Why would you draft a LB that can only play the position of your strongest player (in that position grouping)? I know Williams is a FA next year but you don't have alot of money locked up in this position, why not keep him and he isn't some superstar that's going to command a unmatchable salary either. I could understand using a couple of late round picks on LB's for depth's sake but please no Rivers in the first!!!!
BTW... I'm going off the table with...
A trade down and Kentwan Balmer.
Billy Clyde Puckett
04-04-2008, 08:09 PM
A trade down and Kentwan Balmer.
Go watch some real games before you make that wish. He's not as good as the two slugs the squaws drafted last year.
Billy Clyde Puckett
04-04-2008, 09:44 PM
If you want a DT before the 4th round and Dorsey is gone, you better think about moving Harvey, Merling or Campbell inside.
Paladin
04-05-2008, 12:13 AM
I am made to think that Mendenhall will be the 12 pick.....
Cito Pelon
04-05-2008, 12:19 PM
Maybe Mendenhall at 12 and Baker at 42.
p7superfly
04-07-2008, 02:39 PM
We're gonna take a tackle.
Paladin
04-07-2008, 04:02 PM
We're gonna take a tackle.
Says who?????
crowebomber
04-07-2008, 04:13 PM
Says who?????
This guy on the lightrail.
I would be dissapointed if we went with Mendenhall just because that's not a huge need. Pick up a runningback who has some potential in the middle rounds.
I'm all for taking Williams, Clady if he falls to us, but it's not looking good. Cutler is going to be the franchise so they need to protect him now.
If we dont take a tackle, the value is with Mendenhall or possibly Alberts.
oubronco
04-07-2008, 05:10 PM
would 2 #7's move them up to the 3rd round ?
LonghornBronco
04-07-2008, 07:22 PM
What about Coverting a DE to play inside ala Treavor Price. Maybe Merling...
Popcorn Sutton
04-10-2008, 04:33 PM
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Traveler
04-14-2008, 08:41 AM
Bump!
Northman
04-14-2008, 10:02 AM
I would be dissapointed if we went with Mendenhall just because that's not a huge need. Pick up a runningback who has some potential in the middle rounds.
I'm all for taking Williams, Clady if he falls to us, but it's not looking good. Cutler is going to be the franchise so they need to protect him now.
Totally agree.
RocBronc
04-14-2008, 01:14 PM
Go watch some real games before you make that wish. He's not as good as the two slugs the squaws drafted last year.
This isn't a wish... This is a prediction of what I think will happen...