architect Richard Gage: "the WTC was demolished"

[mhgaffney]

This is one of the better presentations about 9/11 you will find on the internet. It's a very thorough and persuasive deconstruction of the official story -- by a professional architect.

I should mention that Gage also cites other structural engineers and scientists, increasing numbers of whom now reject the official story that plane impacts and fires brought down the WTC on 9/11.

I'd like -- for once -- to see some intelligent discussion here of the evidence. Most of what we've seen to date is ranting and personal attacks by folks who've been hypnotized by too many hours staring at the boooob toobe. They don't call it that for nuthing'.
MHG

http://www.911blogger.com/node/10025

[W*GS]

Info on Richard Gage:

http://www.ae911truth.info/index.html

The dude is yet another troofer flake.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I'd like -- for once -- to see some intelligent discussion here of the evidence. Most of what we've seen to date is ranting and personal attacks by folks who've been hypnotized by too many hours staring at the boooob toobe.

Speaking of those very folks...

[W*GS]

Yep, gaffney is one of those folks who've spent too many hours in a very dark room, mesmerized by DVD after DVD of troofer bullcrap. I wonder just how much money he's wasted on those charlatans and frauds...

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

So much for that intelligent discussion of the evidence, eh? ;)

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Info on Richard Gage:
http://www.ae911truth.info/index.html
The dude is yet another troofer flake.More than that he's an outright liar. One preposterous claim he made was that insurance companies raised rates 2000% after 9-11.........what an idiot.

"They've raised their premiums 2000 percent on buildings and this payout (to Silverstein) is peanuts compared to this--those premium profits."

[orinjkrush]

i heard Abe lincoln had a step daughter named Pleasant Kennedy who was born on a grassy knoll that was owned by Jewish Bilderburgs who wanted twin towers destroyed in the future predicted by Nostradamus who was an offspring of the Merivingians who came from southern France where Mother Mary was impregnated by tall dark grey Aliens who visited Atlantis where they had invented the power of pyramids that were used to survey the streets in Springfield Illinois. Who woulda known?

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Richard Gage begging for dollars, good stuff!

I especially like the part of people signing up on Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice with no credentials and still being listed. :)

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[Breaker]

This is one of the better presentations about 9/11 you will find on the internet. It's a very thorough and persuasive deconstruction of the official story -- by a professional architect.

I should mention that Gage also cites other structural engineers and scientists, increasing numbers of whom now reject the official story that plane impacts and fires brought down the WTC on 9/11.

I'd like -- for once -- to see some intelligent discussion here of the evidence. Most of what we've seen to date is ranting and personal attacks by folks who've been hypnotized by too many hours staring at the boooob toobe. They don't call it that for nuthing'.
MHG

http://www.911blogger.com/node/10025

Wait you want a "intelligent" discussion of the facts and post stuff from 911bloggers.com and decided that the evidence from Popular Mechanics was all bs ...?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Wait you want a "intelligent" discussion of the facts and post stuff from 911bloggers.com and decided that the evidence from Popular Mechanics was all bs ...?

Instead of intelligent discussion of the facts and evidence, he gets more of the usual "attack the messenger and pretend you've discredited the message" from you.

Go figure.

[Rohirrim]

It's nice to have a hobby. ;)

[mhgaffney]

Well - - I must say I'm not surprised by the response.

Knee jerks are at work -- as usual.

Not one poster mentioned anything of substance. No one mentioned (probably because they didn't watch the film) that the leading structural engineers in Switzerland are now on record agreeing with Gage and Steven Jones (and me).

No mention that several physicists have also signed onto Steven Jones' latest paper about the high temperatures and evidence for thermate at the WTC --- see the latest at the scholars journal
http://www.journalof911studies.com/

And you Rohirrim are a pathetic creature to mock the honest pursuit of 9/11 truth. Your comfort zone is obviously threatened. Like with the rest -- and so you resort to mockery.

Evidently you have forgotten what Yeats wrote about it. Well, allow me to refresh your memory. Those who mock in turn will be mocked:

Come let us mock at the great
That had such burdens on the mind
and toiled hard and late
to leave some monument behind,
nor thought of the leveling wind.

Come let us mock at the wise;
with all those calendars whereon
they fixed old aching eyes,
they never saw how seasons run,
and now but gape at the sun.

Come let us mock at the good
that fancied goodness might be gay,
and sick of solitude
might proclaim a holiday:
Wind shrieked --- and where are they?

Mock mockers after that
that would not lift a hand maybe
to help good, wise, or great
to bar that foul storm out, for we
traffic in mockery.

--WB Yeats
Meditations in a time of civil war (1928)

[W*GS]

So Switzerland has flakes, too. Wadda shocker!

[Arkie]

There are 150,000 licensed architects in this country and you found one to support your view.

[Rohirrim]

And you Rohirrim are a pathetic creature to mock the honest pursuit of 9/11 truth. Your comfort zone is obviously threatened. Like with the rest -- and so you resort to mockery.


Mockery? Moi? Geez, why do you single me out? At least I said something positive.

[mhgaffney]

The best part of the film -- though -- IMO -- was where the chief NIST scientist said "I know of no witnesses who saw molten steel..."

The vid then cuts to two NYC firemen -- both of whom describe seeing molten iron in the WTC ruins -- flowing "like in a foundry..."

[epicSocialism4tw]

We all know who Gaffney thinks it is:
http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/wp-content/uploads/jewface.jpg

[Hotwheelz]

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html

http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html

[TDmvp]

The best part of the film -- though -- IMO -- was where the chief NIST scientist said "I know of no witnesses who saw molten steel..."

The vid then cuts to two NYC firemen -- both of whom describe seeing molten iron in the WTC ruins -- flowing "like in a foundry..."

friction moron ...

[ElwayMD]

When I see mhgaffney start a thread I know I'm going to be laughing by the end of it. Thank you for my daily dose of humor :)

[W*GS]

Richard Gage begging for dollars, good stuff!

I especially like the part of people signing up on Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice with no credentials and still being listed.

I saw an "automotive technician". Ooooh.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

I saw an "automotive technician". Ooooh.I wonder how many "structural engineers" have their name on that list and how many really are one.

[mhgaffney]

Tomorrow I will post the names of the structural engineers from Switzerland. They teach at the Swiss equivalent of MIT

[mhgaffney]

Red Rocket,

You'll have to do a lot better than Popular Mechanics. A high school physics student could see through this scam.

The same goes for your other links. They don't even rate a reply.
MHG

[W*GS]

You'll have to do a lot better than Popular Mechanics. A high school physics student could see through this scam.

Coming from someone with a nursery-school level of understanding of physics, chemistry, metallurgy...

[mhgaffney]

Actually, Richard Gage makes a minor couple of mistakes in the film. He incorrectly states that the core box columns at the base were 4 inches thick.

Not so. They were almost double that -- 7 inches thick.

This number is mentioned in the NIST Report, which is almost always gets the details right-- though is wrong about the big picture -- and its conclusions.

The 7 inch figure is also supported by photographic evidence. Check out the photos of the box columns in Joel Meyerowitz's book AFTERMATH. They are obviously much thicker than four inches.

OR check out the photo (on page 23) in Eric Hufschmid's 2002 book PAINFUL DECEPTIONS. You get a good look at the box columns on end -- and you can gauge scale because of the workers in the picture.

Hufschmid was one of the first to challenge the official stpry -- and his book is still one of the best.

The 7 inch figure is obviously correct -- tho the perimeter columns may well have been 4 inches thick at the base. They were smaller than the core columns. (The designers compensated by using high strength heat treated steel in the perimeter wall. Which was not used in the case of the core columns.)

In short, these were monster columns. No way the official story can possibly be right.

[The Lone Bolt]

When I see mhgaffney start a thread I know I'm going to be laughing by the end of it. Thank you for my daily dose of humor :)

Me too! I live for this sh-t!:thumbsup:

[Rohirrim]

Actually, I'm beginning to think the Gaffer might be right. There's no way the official story could be true. After all, they lied to us about Iraq.

[mhgaffney]

That's the first smart thing you have said on this thread, Rohirrim.

Congratulations!

[Rohirrim]

That's the first smart thing you have said on this thread, Rohirrim.

Congratulations!

April Fools. :welcome:

[Florida_Bronco]

April Fools. :welcome:

LMFAO!

LOL

[The Lone Bolt]

April Fools. :welcome:

I saw this one coming but I didn't want to ruin it.:~ohyah!: