View Full Version : Clady scored a 16 on wonderlic
broncos-rock
03-23-2008, 01:31 PM
Should read a 13!! Do we really want this guy if hes that low! Don't you get a 10 for just getting your name right. Discuss!!!
2 points lower and he would be a rock
Billy Clyde Puckett
03-23-2008, 01:58 PM
Where is the link to the scores? They were going to keep as a state secret after the Vince Young fiasco.
Tombstone RJ
03-23-2008, 02:12 PM
At least provide a link to substantiate this score...
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/cs-080322-nfl-draft-wonderlic-test,1,4563566.story
One of the many variables NFL teams are factoring into their draft grades are scores from the Wonderlic tests given at the scouting combine. Wonderlic tests are given to help gauge the intelligence of prospects.
NFL teams expect most prospects will score well because players can prepare for the tests. When a player has an unusually low score, it sets off alarms.
A person of average intelligence is supposed to score a 20. NFL teams like to see quarterbacks, offensive linemen, middle linebackers and safeties score higher than that because those positions can be mentally demanding.
At the quarterback position, none of the top prospects laid a Wonderlic egg. Boston College'sMatt Ryan, he of the off-the-charts intangibles, scored an impressive 32. And his score was matched by Lousiville's Brian Brohm, who is the second-highest-rated quarterback after Ryan on most boards.
Joe Flacco of Delaware scored a 27 and Chad Henne of Michigan scored a 22. Both are considered second-round prospects.
Most of the top offensive linemen also tested well. Michigan'sJake Long scored a 26. Pittsburgh's Jeff Otah scored a 28. Southern California's Sam Baker scored a 27. Vanderbilt's Chris Williams scored a 32. Boston College's Godser Cherilus scored a 25. Virginia's Brandon Albert scored a 23.
Boise State offensive tackleRyan Clady had the only disappointing score from the top group of blockers, a 13.
At the linebacker position there are two players who look like surefire first-rounders, but one tested better than the other. Tennessee'sJerod Mayo scored a 26 while USC's Keith Rivers scored a 16. Rivers' test probably won't hurt his stock because most teams consider him an outside linebacker.
Kenny Phillips of Miami, the only safety expected to go in the first round, did not help himself with a 16 test score.
Where is the link to the scores? They were going to keep as a state secret after the Vince Young fiasco.
Here's a link about discipline for leaked Wonderlic scores
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2007-04-24-goodell-leaks_N.htm
Broncojef
03-23-2008, 04:00 PM
Well in most recent mock drafts I've seen Clady is gone before our 12 pick anyway so if we stay at 12 and can't trade down I get the feeling Shanny is going to do something crazy. A 13...yeah Shanny won't draft that.
Rohirrim
03-23-2008, 04:08 PM
A LT who scores a 13? Pass.
Do we really want a smart guy on this team??? I do, Chris Williams is looking better and better.
That One Guy
03-23-2008, 08:25 PM
Oh come on, Vince Young was to be the poster child for how low scores would indicate poorly grasping the NFL game but he's come along just... oh, wait...
I think George Foster got a 26 on the test? But anyways the OL position's (as a whole) generally scores higher than all other positions on the field. I think scouts look at these scores more for OL and QBs since they're the ones who have to read defenses and pick up different blitz packages.
Triplelefthook
03-23-2008, 08:47 PM
I think George Foster got a 26 on the test? But anyways the OL position's (as a whole) generally scores higher than all other positions on the field. I think scouts look at these scores more for OL and QBs since they're the ones who have to read defenses and pick up different blitz packages.
did he get a 26 on the test? or do you think he got a 26 on the test? or did he really get a 17 on the test?
did he get a 26 on the test? or do you think he got a 26 on the test? or did he really get a 17 on the test?LOL Do ya have a link becuz i don't , That's why i ended that statement with a ? mark ...But thanks for your insite.
Ray Finkle
03-23-2008, 09:06 PM
During half the superbowl blow fest, they spoke about the scores of the Pats and Cowboys (to really good olines) and they average score was in the 30's.....I think there is a direct corelation to scores and performance for olines.
http://www.sportsline.com/print/nfl/story/6295740
George Foster Georgia T 6-5 3/8 338 26
This link is saying 26 are they wrong Triplelefthook?Are is that 17 score your posting ?
Punisher
03-23-2008, 09:16 PM
Vince Young scored a six on the Wonderlic test LOL
Triplelefthook
03-23-2008, 09:38 PM
http://www.sportsline.com/print/nfl/story/6295740
George Foster Georgia T 6-5 3/8 338 26
This link is saying 26 are they wrong Triplelefthook?Are is that 17 score your posting ?
i think my post came across the wrong way - i didnt know what he scored... i was just throwing a number out there cuz that's what it seemed like you were doing. 26 it is - thanks for the link i wasn't able to find the wonderlic sccores
footstepsfrom#27
03-23-2008, 09:39 PM
I've been thinking that in the unlikely scenario Shanahan decides to finally invest a high 1st round pick in an offensive lineman, that Williams will be his pick because he's been exposed to SEC competition as opposed to playing Boise State's schedule. Denver values intelligence in their offensive lineman...frankly I think they should value size/strength and a nasty attitude but be that as it is...Williams probably gets the nod over Clady when they take this into consideration. Plus...might not Jay be an influence here? I could live with Williams...he's got the talent to pass block and that's what we need most over there.
Punisher
03-23-2008, 09:44 PM
I had a feeling clady might drop but This makes him a top ten pick
Kaylore
03-23-2008, 10:23 PM
Plus...might not Jay be an influence here? I could live with Williams...he's got the talent to pass block and that's what we need most over there.
Williams was a sophomore when Jay was a senior and I'm sure Jay would rather have the best player at left tackle regardless of what school they went to.
Billy Clyde Puckett
03-23-2008, 10:36 PM
I still say Williams is the safest pick in this entire draft. Not the best player, but the safest pick. Baring injury, he will play in the league at a high level 15 years.
I think George Foster got a 26 on the test? But anyways the OL position's (as a whole) generally scores higher than all other positions on the field. I think scouts look at these scores more for OL and QBs since they're the ones who have to read defenses and pick up different blitz packages.
He might have gotten a 26 on the wonderlic, but he got a big fat zero on the heart test.
Elway777
03-24-2008, 12:33 AM
This could put Chis Williams ahead of Clady on Broncos Draft board. If Mendenhall is still their at 12 I could see alot of teams trying to trade up for him. That could mean the Broncos trading down a little to get Chis Williams or Desean Jackson.
Vince Young scored a six on the Wonderlic test LOL
VY is stupid. You can see it on the football field. It may take his brain a tad bit longer to comprehend something that someone like Peyton, Brady, Garrard, Elway, Favre can all make 2/10ths faster. That comprehension makes or breaks a HOF QB to an average QB.
An actual copy of Vince Young's Wonderlic Test:
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c222/TommyD420/youngwonderlicjb3.jpg
Punisher
03-24-2008, 12:42 AM
Lmao
Wonderlic scores are one of the dumb things I've always been interested in and collected. Enjoy!
Steve Young 33
Elway 30
Troy Aikman 29
Mark Brunell 22
Brett Favre 22
Trent Dilfer 22
Vinny Testeverde 18
Jeff Blake 17
Dan Marino 16
Elvis Grbac 16
Randall Cunningham 15
Neil O'Donnell 13
Kordell Stewart 12
Jeff George 10
1999 rookies
Kevin Daft 32
Brock Huard 25
Shawn King 25
Joe Germaine 25
Tim Couch 22
Daunte Culpepper 21
Donavan McNabb 16
Michael Bishop 10
Akili Smith 16, 37, 28 (scored 16, agent hired tutor, tested at 37, test again 28)
Sebastian Janikowski reportedly got a 9
Brian Griese is said to have scored a 39
Drew Bledsoe 37
Cade McNown 28
Trent Dilfer
Jesse Palmer is said to have scored a 32
LaDainian Tomlinson only had a 13
The average score for an NFL prospect is 19. The average score overall -- hundreds of corporations use the Wonderlic -- is 21.
Only one person in 100,000 scores a perfect 50. The only NFL player to do it was former Cincinnati Bengals punter and Harvard grad Pat McInally, which explains why he chose to be a punter and not, say, a punt returner.
In 1998, the average score on the Wonderlic Personnel Test for 48 of 53 Denver players was 20.4.
Last year (1997), the average score on the Wonderlic for 43 of 53 Green Bay players was 19.6.
Byron Leftwich=25
Brandon Green=29
Brett Romberg=20
Rashean Mathis=18
Vince Manuwai=28
LaBrandon Toefield=10
George Wrighster=25
In general, says Wonderlic, "The closer you are to the ball, the higher your score."
This assessment roughly corresponds to the averages revealed, according to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, by an NFL personnel man in Paul Zimmerman's "The New Thinking man's Guide to Pro Football," which are:
Offensive tackles: 26
Centers: 25
Quarterbacks: 24
Guards: 23
Tight Ends: 22
Safeties: 19
Middle linebackers: 19
Cornerbacks: 18
Wide receivers: 17
Fullbacks: 17
Halfbacks: 16
The average scores in other professions look like this:
Chemist: 31
Programmer: 29
Newswriter: 26
Sales: 24
Bank teller: 22
Clerical Worker: 21
Security Guard: 17
Warehouse: 15
Akin Ayodele 18
John Henderson 8
Marcus Stroud 23
Rick Mirer, a failure in the NFL, scored a 31
McNown scored 28
Couch had 22.
Culpepper, who was administered the test three times, had a high of 21 and a low of 15.
McNabb, who holds a degree in speech communications and has completed some master's level courses, has had scores of 16 and 12.
Green Bay's Brett Favre, had 22 in 1991.
Vick, with a 40-yard dash time of about 4.48 seconds, is faster than McNabb (4.57). His score of 20 on the Wonderlic intelligence test was eight better than McNabb's as well.
Tee Martin 11
Tom Brady 33
Garrard – 14
2004 DRAFT CLASS:
WRs
Larry Fitzgerald, Pittsburgh - 18
Roy Williams, Texas - 17
Rashaun Woods, Oklahoma State - 21
Reggie Williams, Washington - 17
Lee Evans, Wisconsin - 27
Michael Clayton, LSU - 19
Michael Jenkins, Ohio State - 20
Devery Henderson, LSU - 17
Keary Colbert, Southern Cal - 21
Ernest Wilford, Virginia Tech - 19
Bernard Berrian, Fresno State - 20
QBs
Eli Manning, Mississippi - 39
Ben Roethlisberger, Miami (OH) - 25
Philip Rivers, North Carolina State - 30
J.P. Losman, Tulane - 31
Cody Pickett, Washington - 19
Matt Schaub, Virginia - 30
John Navarre, Michigan - 24
Josh Harris, Bowling Green - 25
Casey Clausen, Tennessee - 20
Jeff Smoker, Michigan State - 23
Jason Fife, Oregon - 26
Matt Mauck, LSU - 30
Eli Roberson, Kansas State - 11
B.J. Symons, Texas Tech - 22
Jared Lorenzen, Kentucky - 28
Bradlee Van Pelt, Colorado State - 25
Rod Rutherford, Pittsburgh - 17
TEs
Ben Watson, Georgia - 41
Kellen Winslow, Miami - 12
Ben Troupe, Flordia - not listed
Ben Utecht, Minnesota - 22
Ben Hartsock, Ohio State - 32
Jason Peters, Arkansas - 9
Jeff Dugan, Maryland - 24
Sean Ryan, Boston College - 35
Chris Cooley, Utah State - 32
Tim Euhus, Oregon State - 34
RBs
Steven Jackson, Oregon State - 28
Kevin Jones, Virginia Tech - 15
Chris Perry, Michigan - 20
Greg Jones, Florida State - 25
Tatum Bell, Oklahoma State - 18
Julius Jones, Notre Dame - 16
Michael Turner, Northern Illinois - 35
Maurice Clarett, Ohio State - 20
Kelly Butler, Purdue - 29 Fred Russell, Iowa - 9
Mewelde Moore, Tulane - 19
Cedric Cobbs, Arkansas - 14
Jarrett Payton, Miami (FL) - 12
Guards
Vernon Carey, Miami (FL) - 18
Chris Snee, Boston College - 19
Steve Peterman, LSU - 20
Justin Smiley, Alabama - 21
Sean Locklear, North Carolina State - 19
Adrien Clarke, Ohio State - 24
Shannon Snell, Florida - 28
Alan Reuber, Texas AM (T) - 24
Jacob Bell, Miami (OH) - 22
Anthonly Herrera, Tennessee - 23
Antonio Hall, Kentucky - 20
Tackles
Robert Gallery, Iowa - 23
Shawns Andrews, Arkansas - 20
Nat Dorsey, Georgia Tech - 35
Jacob Rogers, Southern Cal - 29
Carlos Joseph, Miami (FL) - 7
Tony Pape, Michigan - 23
Mark Wilson, California - 30
Kirk Chambers, Stanford - 29
Max Starks, Florida (OG) - 35
Travelle Wharton, South Carolina - 12
Sean Bubin, Illinois - 24
Shane Olivea, Ohio State - 18
Brian Rimpf, East Carolina - 35
Adrian Jones, Kansas - 17
Stacey Andrews, Mississippi - 15
LBs
D.J. Williams Miami (FL) - 21
Karlso Dansby, Auburn - 15
Daryl Smith, Georgia Tech - 13
Teddy Lehman, Oklahoma - 39
Dontarrious Thomas, Auburn - 24
Michael Boulware, Florida State - 24
Kendyll Pope, Florida State - 18
Keyaron Fox, Georgia Tech - 16
Demorrio Williams, Nebraska - 12
Courtney Watson, Notre Dame - 24
Bryan Hickman, Kansas State - 16
Jonathan Vilma, Miami (FL) - 23
Niko Koutouvides, Purdue - 28
Rod Davis, Southern Miss - 18
CBs
DeAngelo Hall, Virginia Tech - 23
Chris Gamble, Ohio State - 9
Dunta Robinson, South Carolina - 13
Will Poole, Southern Cal - 14
Ahmad Carroll, Arkansas - 17
Derrick Strait, Oklahoma - 15
Ricardo Colclough, Tusculum - 11
Joey Thomas, Montana State - 19
Nathan Vasher, Texas - 13
Keiwan Ratliff, Florida - 18
Jeremy LeSueur, Michigan - 16
Keith Smith, McNeese State - 17
Vontez Duff, Notre Dame - 16
FS
Sean Taylor, Miami (FL) - 10
Matt Ware, UCLA - 22
Stuart Schweigert, Purdue - 28
Jason Shivers, Arizona State - 14
Sean Jones, Georgia - 18
Brandon Everage, Oklahoma - 15
Will Allen, Ohio State - 13
Sean Taylor, Miami (FL) - 10
DEs
Will Smith, Ohio State - 23
Kenechi Udeze, Southern Cal - 18
Marquise Hill, LSU - 13
Antwan Odom, Alabama - 10
Darrion Scott, Ohio State - 12
Jason Babin, Western Michigan - 22
Isaac Hilton, Hampton - 23
Uyi Osunde, Connecticut - 21
Travis Laboy, Hawaii - 29
Shaun Phillips, Purdue - 17
Bo Schobel, TCU - 27
Andrew Shull, Kansas State - 21
Dave Ball, UCLA - 25
Bobby McCray, Florida - 14
Gabe Nyenhuis, Colorado - 7
DTs
Tommie Harris, Oklahoma - 11
Vince Wilfork, Miami (FL) - 10
Marcus Tubbs, Texas - 21
Randy Starks, Maryland - 20
Darnell Dockett, Florida State - 17
Donnell Washington, Clemson - 8
Dwan Edwards, Oregon State - 29
Chad Lavalais, LSU - 10
Igor Olshansky, Oregon - 29
Isaac Sopoaga, Hawaii - 8
Matthias Askew, Michigan State - 10
Tank Johnson, Washington - 16
Darrell Campbell, Notre Dame - 21
Junior Siavii, Oregon - 15
Tim Anderson, Ohio State - 25
http://gunslingers.blogspot.com/2005_04_01_gunslingers_archive.html ( April 21, 2005 section)
According to the info on this site, Joey Harrington's score was 32 ( I recall it being around that number ), David Carr's score was 24, Kyle Boller 27, and Philip Rivers 30. They listed Byron Leftwich at 25 and Carson Palmer at 26 but that was on their first attempt.
Caldrac, you are apparently correct about Eli Manning having a high score. He scored a 39 according to this site. They didn't list Peyton Manning's score. Drew Henson scored a 42.
Terry Bradshaw... 15
Dan Marino..... 15 All kinds of records, hall of fame one day.
Randall Cunningham......... 15 Led teams into the playoffs, pro bowl QB
Donovan McNabb..... 12 Led team to super bowl, 3 NFC Championship games
Steve Mcnair.... 15 Led team to super bowl, won MVP.
Tony Banks.... 26 Can you say SUCK
Rick Mirer...31 Where is he now?
Kerry Collins....30 How many teams has he been on?
Drew Bledsoe...37 Benched for Tony Romo
Brian Griese....39 Benched for Rexie and Kyle Orton
Daunte Culpepper 15* some say he couldn't even get into a 4 year College with his grades and yet he was amazing until his knee injury.
Tim Couch... 23 can you say BUST
Shuan King...26 and where is he now. On espn
David Garrard...14 Benched for most of his career. Now look where he is.
Jesse Palmer....33 Mr. Bachelor and with that high school he didn't do Squat
Tom Brady..... 34 and all it got him was a 7th round pick and now 3 super bowls
Michael Vick...21 in jail
A.J Feely....19 and he is on the bench
Chris Wenike........29 and has he done anything?
Quincy Carter......30 all that got him was a career in AA.
David Carr....25 First pick my foot
Josh McCown........30 Who?
Patrick Ramsey...... 32 Such a high score for a terrible QB
Bryon Leftwich........ 25 First round bust!!!
Kyle Boller....27 Hasn't done squat
Tony Romo... 30 Yet he wasn't even drafted and now look at him
Drew Henson..........43
Jim Sorgi...... 12 This guy is the back up to Manning?
Alex Smith .... 40 All that money he got and where is he now?
Compiled from various sources
Matt Ryan 28/32
Brian Brohm 32/45
Joe Flacco 27/24/30
Matt Flynn 26/38
Josh Johnson 15/24
Andre Woodson 14/20
Chad Henne 22
Sam Keller 21/34
Chris Johnson 10/29
Tashard Choice 21/27
Justin Forsett 21/35
Lex Hilliard 24/50
Danny Woodhead 29/38
Matt Forte 18/25
Owen Schmitt 24/30
Jerome Felton 28/41
Andre Caldwell 8/14
Josh Morgan 19/26
Early Doucet 20/28
Keenan Burton 14/30
Harry Douglas 11/28
D.J. Hall 15/24
Luke Swan 25/34
Arman Shields 14/25
Donnie Avery 14/33
Jerome Simpson 17/23
Lavelle Hawkins 17/23
Tim Bugg 28/40
Joey Haynos 23/26
Martin Rucker 23/28
Jacob Tamme 34/34
Jake Long 26
Duane Brown 29/32
Devin Clark 11/29
Roy Schuening 26/45
Steve Justice 19/27
Jeff Otah 28/16/35
John Greco 28/36
Mike McGlynn 19/32
Chad Rinehart 35/42
Kory Lichtensteiger 29/36
Sam Baker 27
Chris Williams 32/31/37
Heath Benedict 28/39
Godser Cherilus 25/50
Brandon Albert 23
Mike Pollak 24/34
Ryan Clady 13
Quentin Groves 25/38
Darrell Robertson 30/33
Brian Johnston 16/31
Kenny Iwebema 22/28
Chris Ellis 14/22
Chris Long 34/45
Wallace Gilberry 17/50
Glenn Dorsey 21/26
Red Bryant 17/20
Carlton Powell 34/43
Kendall Langford 17/33
Xavier Adibi 13/20
JoLonn Dunbar 20/32
Spencer Larsen 25/33
Jerod Mayo 26
Vince Hall 14/23
Keith Rivers 16
Beau Bell 14/18
J Leman 31/34
Ezra Butler 17/26
Ali Highsmith 7/13
Philip Wheeler 29/42
Antoine Cason 16/28
Tracy Porter 4/23
Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie 19/38
Leodis McKelvin 13/34
Chevis Jackson 15/30
Charles Godfrey 11/28
D.J. Parker 13/28
DeJuan Tribble 18/33
Travis Williams 4/19
Terrence Wheatley 21/38
Simeon Castille 19/30
Jamie Silva 29/37
Corey Lynch 31/41
Thomas DeCoud 24/36
Kenny Phillips 16
Jermaine Moye 15/32
Taylor Mehlhaff 27/45
Punisher
03-24-2008, 12:55 AM
Damn what did cutler scored AND PLEASE find Philip Rivers Wonderlic score
26 for MR.CUTLER 16 for the other guy.
Punisher
03-24-2008, 01:05 AM
26 for MR.CUTLER 16 for the other guy.
Cutler 26:0-0 Playoffs games///06-07SEA-20TDs/14INTS/3,497YDS/88.1 QB RAT
Rivers 30:2-2 Playoffs games///06-07SEA-21TDs/15INTS/3,152YDS/82.4 QB RAT
Philip Rivers 30 I had to fix my last post.
Punisher
03-24-2008, 01:13 AM
Damn rivers did better than cutler on the wonderlic :(
Cutler 26:0-0 Playoffs games///06-07SEA-20TDs/14INTS/3,497YDS/88.1 QB RAT
Rivers 30:2-2 Playoffs games///06-07SEA-21TDs/15INTS/3,152YDS/82.4 QB RAT
Wonderlic doesn't guarantee that a QB would be great or even good. But I'd bet that none of those guys that scored in the hi twenties & thirties will never be living in a cardboard box like Vince Young would be if some people in the NFL hadn't bought into the hype.
Punisher
03-24-2008, 01:22 AM
Wonderlic doesn't guarantee that a QB would be great or even good. But I'd bet that none of those guys that scored in the hi twenties & thirties will never be living in a cardboard box like Vince Young would be if some people in the NFL hadn't bought into the hype.
:~ohyah!: :~ohyah!: :~ohyah!: Classic
Kaylore
03-24-2008, 02:43 AM
Damn rivers did better than cutler on the wonderlic :(
Who cares? Look at the stats you put up. Rivers has been in the league almost five years and has a team full of pro-bowlers and he basically is putting up the same numbers as Cutler who just finished his first full season as a starter.
Punisher
03-24-2008, 02:48 AM
Who cares? Look at the stats you put up. Rivers has been in the league almost five years and has a team full of pro-bowlers and he basically is putting up the same numbers as Cutler who just finished his first full season as a starter.
I feel better after that post :)
footstepsfrom#27
03-24-2008, 05:33 AM
At the linebacker position there are two players who look like surefire first-rounders, but one tested better than the other. Tennessee'sJerod Mayo scored a 26 while USC's Keith Rivers scored a 16.
I like this Mayo kid. If he's there in the late 1st I try to trade back up to get him cause I don't think he makes it to the 2nd round.
Hulamau
03-24-2008, 06:08 AM
I cant believe this is the same test (in the other thread) the players take and so many got such low scores on average!
The official test must be a more difficult version, or they must give them even less time to have so many guys scoring below 25 or so ...
What is the scoring system? How many points for each right answer from the 15 questions?
Hulamau
03-24-2008, 06:10 AM
The second set of number s from ICON's posted list of scores seems more plausible for the test we all just took in the other thread.
Where did you get those ICON?
However, having a top score of 50 from a test with only 15 questions seems like an odd division ... there must be more like 25 questions at a score of 2 per question, otherwise at 15 questions out of a top score of 50 gives roughly 3.33 points per question. Doesn't make any sense.
footstepsfrom#27
03-24-2008, 07:25 AM
The second set of number s from ICON's posted list of scores seems more plausible for the test we all just took in the other thread.
Where did you get those ICON?
However, having a top score of 50 from a test with only 15 questions seems like an odd division ... there must be more like 25 questions at a score of 2 per question, otherwise at 15 questions out of a top score of 50 gives roughly 3.33 points per question. Doesn't make any sense.
None of it makes any sense...it's got squat to do with whether you can play or not. I'd rather see a test that predicts whether you'll beat women or drive around with weed in your car at 3:00 am.
That One Guy
03-24-2008, 08:13 AM
From the ESPN article on the other thread:
The Wonderlic is an IQ test with only 50 questions -- it's a short version of the longer test routinely given to kids. Players have just 12 minutes to take it, and most don't finish. But, in fact, the average NFL test-taker scores a little above average.
Billy Clyde Puckett
03-24-2008, 09:14 AM
The Wonderlic is just a quick screen. It means nothing by itself. If the team feels intelligence is important and a player doesn't score well, they just dig deeper to see if the test was an aberation. It's like going to the doctor for a physical and he has you read an eye chart. If you can't read it he sends you to an eye doctor.
Mediator12
03-24-2008, 09:41 AM
The Wonderlic is just a quick screen. It means nothing by itself. If the team feels intelligence is important and a player doesn't score well, they just dig deeper to see if the test was an aberation. It's like going to the doctor for a physical and he has you read an eye chart. If you can't read it he sends you to an eye doctor.
That is it in a nutshell.
The wonderlic is just a tool to see if the player can learn well quickly. If they can not, then they have to spend more time working on things like a complicated playbook.
As BCP put it, it is a outside the norm relative test. If someone falls outside the 80% major curve, teams want to know more about WHY?
footstepsfrom#27
03-24-2008, 10:21 AM
Gabe Nyenhuis, Colorado - 7
Nice to see CU represent eh? :rofl: Lemme go out on a limb and suggest somebody did some homework & took some tests for this guy so he could stay eligible. Basically he's a tomato.
Merlin
03-24-2008, 01:10 PM
They should include some psychological tests. Here are a few of examples:
1. If you saw a turtle on its back and beside it a recipe for the best soup (turtle soup) ever created, do you flip the turtle or do you start boiling a pot of water?
2. If someone breaks into your house, but gives-up right away when he sees you, do you give him a good whack just for good measure?
3. If you get a chance (when you are guaranteed to not be seen), do you give the opposing player an extra hit as a friendly reminder?
4. When you notice the opposing player looks injured, do you still throttle them on the next play, or do you give them a break?
elsid13
03-24-2008, 06:22 PM
They should include some psychological tests. Here are a few of examples:
1. If you saw a turtle on its back and beside it a recipe for the best soup (turtle soup) ever created, do you flip the turtle or do you start boiling a pot of water?
2. If someone breaks into your house, but gives-up right away when he sees you, do you give him a good whack just for good measure?
3. If you get a chance (when you are guaranteed to not be seen), do you give the opposing player an extra hit as a friendly reminder?
4. When you notice the opposing player looks injured, do you still throttle them on the next play, or do you give them a break?
Well Here are my answer to the you questions. (come everyone needs to answer to....)
1. Boil the pot of water, and start looking for the bowl
2. Smack them upside the head
3. Better to do them before they do it to you.
4. I throttle him and make sure all four my buddies are along for the ride.
That One Guy
03-24-2008, 09:19 PM
Well Here are my answer to the you questions. (come everyone needs to answer to....)
1. Boil the pot of water, and start looking for the bowl
2. Smack them upside the head
3. Better to do them before they do it to you.
4. I throttle him and make sure all four my buddies are along for the ride.
If you'll eat the soup for me, I'll agree with every one of your answers. Some may consider me country folk but I'm not eating anyone's turtles.
elsid13
03-24-2008, 09:21 PM
If you'll eat the soup for me, I'll agree with every one of your answers. Some may consider me country folk but I'm not eating anyone's turtles.
Dude in France that soup going cost you cool 100.00 to 150.00. It ain't country it called fine dining.
Bump..It's funny reading some of your post now .I made a thread before the 2006 NFL draft called Fact or fiction i can recall some of the mane calling JC a bust...ROFL!
Bob's your Information Minister
06-13-2008, 09:27 PM
So it's official. Our left tackle is smarter than your left tackle.
Bigger and more physical, too. And better looking.
Bronco_Beerslug
06-13-2008, 10:06 PM
The Wonderlic is just a quick screen. It means nothing by itself. If the team feels intelligence is important and a player doesn't score well, they just dig deeper to see if the test was an aberation. It's like going to the doctor for a physical and he has you read an eye chart. If you can't read it he sends you to an eye doctor.I have to disagree on that point. It's a very simple measure of basic knowledge (education). If a person that has attended college (higher education) doesn't even know basic math or how to reason then I'm betting they probably didn't belong there in the first place.
Sassy
06-13-2008, 11:55 PM
Clady's foot skills were obvious on film. Very talented and smart, has picked up things quickly. Takes pride in his work. Be surprised if he doesn't play well as a rookie.
From Shanahan's interview on CBS4.
Los Broncos
06-13-2008, 11:58 PM
Clady's foot skills were obvious on film. Very talented and smart, has picked up things quickly. Takes pride in his work. Be surprised if he doesn't play well as a rookie.
From Shanahan's interview on CBS4.
That video of him was impressive.
Will be solid for years to come.
ol number 7
06-16-2008, 08:17 AM
So it's official. Our left tackle is smarter than your left tackle.
Bigger and more physical, too. And better looking.
What would CP score on the wonderlick ?? That's your REAL PROBLEM in KC.
bronco militia
06-17-2008, 12:25 PM
So it's official. Our left tackle is smarter than your left tackle.
Bigger and more physical, too. And better looking.
ahhhhhhhh how cute :slapsilly
BroncoBuff
06-18-2008, 08:40 PM
So it's official. Our left tackle is smarter than your left tackle. Bigger and more physical, too.
I'll tell you one thing that's official: Your left tackle is actually a guard.
Square pegs, Bobo. Square pegs.
Bob's your Information Minister
06-19-2008, 08:52 PM
I'll tell you one thing that's official: Your left tackle is actually a guard.
Square pegs, Bobo. Square pegs.
Your head coach is actually an offensive coordinator.
BroncoBuff
06-19-2008, 08:55 PM
Your head coach is actually an offensive coordinator.
You really believe that? There's been alotta head coaches who were really glorified coordinators, but I can't see Shanahan as such. If Mike were to leave the Broncos, teams would be lining up....
Kaylore
06-19-2008, 11:23 PM
I'm excited about him. :)
sixtimeseight
06-20-2008, 03:57 PM
Your head coach is actually an offensive coordinator.
And yours is a defensive coordinator. At least ours has a couple rings as a head coach.
Doggcow
06-20-2008, 04:05 PM
And yours is a defensive coordinator. At least ours has a couple rings as a head coach.
BOOOOOSH!
cmhargrove
12-02-2008, 11:20 AM
Bump.
I thought this thread was pretty entertaining. We thought Clady was too dumb and played against inferior competition.
I was also reminiscing about all of us wanting Owen Schmitt. How do we feel about the Hillis / Schmitt thing now?
Pretty funny...
Kaylore
12-02-2008, 11:52 AM
That Vince Young test is still hilarious.
theAPAOps5
12-02-2008, 11:53 AM
So it's official. Our left tackle is smarter than your left tackle.
Bigger and more physical, too. And better looking.
Fat Boy wrong as ever! What does he actually get right?
SureShot
12-02-2008, 03:44 PM
I have to give props to Bob I think Albert will be a really good guard for years to come in this league.
theAPAOps5
12-02-2008, 04:55 PM
I have to give props to Bob I think Albert will be a really good guard for years to come in this league.
Yeah they just need to stop playing him out of position where he is absolutely terrible.
gyldenlove
12-03-2008, 07:31 PM
Yeah they just need to stop playing him out of position where he is absolutely terrible.
Hey, if they keep him there Robert Gallery still has hope of not being the biggest offensive lineman bust in the AFC West.