Croyle is the KC QB of the future right.....

[elsid13]

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2008/03/pro_day_feel.html

CHESTNUT HILL -- Chiefs coach Herm Edwards, Chiefs general manager Carl Peterson, Panthers general manager Marty Hurney, and Vikings vice president of player personnel Rick Spielman are a few of the top NFL officials in attendance today for Boston College's Pro Day.

The Chiefs, who pick fifth, have sent the largest NFL contingent, a group that also includes offensive coordinator Chan Gailey.That leads to an interesting thought: Would Kansas City, which seemingly has its quarterback of the future in Brodie Croyle, consider selecting Matt Ryan at No. 5?

In all, 23 teams are scheduled to have NFL officials in attendance.

The Patriots are represented by scouts DeJuan Daniels and Brian Flores.

Now why would the Chef do that if Croyle is the man???

[Bob's your Information Minister]

He's the QB of the present, but he's not proven enough, nor do the Chiefs have enough invested in him to disregard other QB prospects.

[oubronco]

If they had half a brain they would select Ryan cause Crodie Boil isn't jack **** !!

[elsid13]

Come on bobo stand by your man. You came to this site for the last 2 years telling us how great Croyle is. Now that the brain trust of KC is looking for his replacement you jump ship faster then a Norwegian Rat looking for cheese.

[broncs2bowl]

if they selected Matt Ryan man look out for the AFC West..........Cutler, Rivers, Russell, Ryan GOOD GOD

[Florida_Bronco]

Croyle is a poor man's Jake Plummer. He's not as talented or mobile as Jake was, but can be just as erratic. If the Chiefs built a really solid offense he might be able to run it well, but if they attempt to rely on him he will crumble with the rest of the offense.

[400HZ]

I hope they don't go after Ryan. I'd much rather see them try and build around Croyle. Hahahaha.

[boltaneer]

It's definitely in their best interest to be scouting him now because

a) If they choose him, he would be an instant upgrade to Croyle IMO

b) If they decide to pass on him come draft dady, they definitely don't want to show their hand now.

[elsid13]

It's definitely in their best interest to be scouting him now because

a) If they choose him, he would be an instant upgrade to Croyle IMO

b) If they decide to pass on him come draft dady, they definitely don't want to show their hand now.

They have the 5th pick in the draft, it not like they have folks ahead that might steal thier guy, or folks that will trade up.

[BMF Bronco]

He's the QB of the present, but he's not proven enough, nor do the Chiefs have enough invested in him to disregard other QB prospects.

Retracting past comments on the douche now? Ha! ROFL! LOL

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Croyle is a poor man's Jake Plummer. He's not as talented or mobile as Jake was, but can be just as erratic. If the Chiefs built a really solid offense he might be able to run it well, but if they attempt to rely on him he will crumble with the rest of the offense.

Poor comparison on your part. Croyle and Plummer are quite different in terms of talent and mental makeup. Plummer got rattled pretty easy. Croyle has poise.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Retracting past comments on the douche now? Ha! ROFL! LOL

I've never once stated that Brodie Croyle was ever going to amount to anything. You folks have this erroneous impression that I'm a complete homer on anything and everything Chiefs related.

[boltaneer]

They have the 5th pick the draft, it not like they have folks ahead that might steal thier guy, or folks that will trade up.

Well, it's certainly looking like they're either going QB or OT. If the Falcons pass on Ryan, the Chiefs are the next logical team to take him so a team might jump up to the Raiders spot to take Ryan if they really wanted him. I don't think Jake Long will be there at five but if he is and that's the guy the Chiefs really want, then everything works out for them.

Still, I do agree that nothing crazy will probably happen but it's better to be the poker player just in case. I think they're legitimately interested in Ryan because despite what Chief fans think, their front office knows Croyle isn't the answer.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Well, it's certainly looking like they're either going QB or OT. If the Falcons pass on Ryan, the Chiefs are the next logical team to take him so a team might jump up to the Raiders spot to take Ryan if they really wanted him. I don't think Jake Long will be there at five but if he is and that's the guy the Chiefs really want, then everything works out for them.


We could take almost anyone to be honest. DT is a need, too, and Ellis is a stud.

The front office does not "know" Croyle is a bust. They are going to give him every chance to prove himself.

[brncs_fan]

Croyle is a poor man's Jake Plummer

How dare you say that. Plummer won a game!

[elsid13]

We could take almost anyone to be honest. DT is a need, too, and Ellis is a stud.

The front office does not "know" Croyle is a bust. They are going to give him every chance to prove himself.

Then why was everyone and anyone on the offense staff in Boston??? Plus the GM. That a sign that they are interested in someone big and Ryan is the only one that fits that profile. The BC right tackle is projected as late first/second isn't goint to get that attention.

[boltaneer]

We could take almost anyone to be honest. DT is a need, too, and Ellis is a stud.

The front office does not "know" Croyle is a bust. They are going to give him every chance to prove himself.

In a way, the best thing to do is to pass on Ryan and let Croyle crap out another 4-12 season, get another high pick, then you can find your franchise QB next year.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

In a way, the best thing to do is to pass on Ryan and let Croyle crap out another 4-12 season, get another high pick, then you can find your franchise QB next year.

Who is coming out next year? Anyone good?

[boltaneer]

Who is coming out next year? Anyone good?

I'm not sure.

I am getting the impression that this year's draft class for QBs is weak though.

[RodInCanton]

I could see the Chiefs trading down and selecting Brohm around 17-22. Get more picks and a QB w/ some upside. I don't think he's going to be an all pro but I think he can be serviceable w/ a supporting cast. Too many needs on that team to not at least think about this...

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I could see the Chiefs trading down and selecting Brohm around 17-22. Get more picks and a QB w/ some upside. I don't think he's going to be an all pro but I think he can be serviceable w/ a supporting cast. Too many needs on that team to not at least think about this...

We're not going to draft for need.

I don't see anything in any of these quarterbacks that makes them more attractive than Croyle. Most of them have good to average arms (apart from Flacco). At least Croyle has a cannon.

If I'm gonna pick a QB at 5, he better be a Cutler-esque prospect. Matt Ryan strikes me as a guy who would go in the 2nd round in a good QB class.

[KCStud]

Herm and co are doing this to strengthen their trade bait. Herm likes Croyle and so does our front office. I see this as a smoke screen. I think they are looking hard at RT Gosder Cherilus as an option in round 2 if he is still there.

I think Croyle will be the starter and is proving what he wants it. Ryan is overrated IMO. He doesn't have anything more than Croyle.

Ryan weighs in at 218 lbs. Croyle weighed in at 212 lbs(as shown on Hard Knocks).
Ryan is 2 inches taller. No biggie
Both are mobile.
Both did well with little help from their offense's in college.
Both are poised QB's.

Big difference=Croyle has a much stronger arm

[KCStud]

Croyle is a poor man's Jake Plummer. He's not as talented or mobile as Jake was, but can be just as erratic. If the Chiefs built a really solid offense he might be able to run it well, but if they attempt to rely on him he will crumble with the rest of the offense.

Ha Croyle has poise and can control himself. Plummer may have been more athletic, but he couldn't handle the pressure. He even flipped the bird to his own fans due to frustration that he couldn't hold inside

[KCStud]

Well, it's certainly looking like they're either going QB or OT. If the Falcons pass on Ryan, the Chiefs are the next logical team to take him so a team might jump up to the Raiders spot to take Ryan if they really wanted him. I don't think Jake Long will be there at five but if he is and that's the guy the Chiefs really want, then everything works out for them.

Still, I do agree that nothing crazy will probably happen but it's better to be the poker player just in case. I think they're legitimately interested in Ryan because despite what Chief fans think, their front office knows Croyle isn't the answer.

2 words boltaneer..trade bait

[SouthStndJunkie]

My new measuring system is similar to the British stone....except:

1 Stone= 1 Croyle...about 14 pounds.

So Ryan weighs about 16.3 Croyle....or 228 pounds.

[Punisher]

He's the QB of the present, but he's not proven enough, nor do the Chiefs have enough invested in him to disregard other QB prospects.

:oyvey: Coming from the mouth of the same person that made (The official Croyle vs Cutler Thread):oyvey:

[Bob's your Information Minister]

:oyvey: Coming from the mouth of the same person that made (The official Croyle vs Cutler Thread):oyvey:

Apparently you're not capable of comprehending humor.

[Punisher]

Apparently you're not capable of comprehending humor.

I'm not trying to be funny its a fact you did made that Thread now your talking about "Its ok if they bring and another QB prospect" Whats next Matt Ryan vs Jay Cutler Thread..Make ya mind up pretty please

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I'm not trying to be funny

I know that, you great loon. The whole Croyle vs Cutler thing was a joke on my part. It was never serious.

[Atwater His Ass]

hahahahaahahHAHAHAAHAHhahahaha, yeah bobo, w/e. lulz.

[Punisher]

I know that, you great loon. The whole Croyle vs Cutler thing was a joke on my part. It was never serious.

Ok i'll take you for your word on this one :)

[400HZ]

Who is coming out next year? Anyone good?

Tebow. I'd rather play against Ryan than him. Plus I like Tebow, and it would suck for him to waste his career in Mulletville.

[oubronco]

Who is coming out next year? Anyone good?

kinda sounds like Bob is lookin for a date

[elsid13]

Herm and co are doing this to strengthen their trade bait. Herm likes Croyle and so does our front office. I see this as a smoke screen. I think they are looking hard at RT Gosder Cherilus as an option in round 2 if he is still there.

I think Croyle will be the starter and is proving what he wants it. Ryan is overrated IMO. He doesn't have anything more than Croyle.

Ryan weighs in at 218 lbs. Croyle weighed in at 212 lbs(as shown on Hard Knocks).
Ryan is 2 inches taller. No biggie
Both are mobile.
Both did well with little help from their offense's in college.
Both are poised QB's.

Big difference=Croyle has a much stronger arm

You don't send your entire offense staff,HC and GM for smoke screen or to look at 2nd round RT. You do that if you want to ensure that you really have Franchise QB that you're thinking of drafting.

[boltaneer]

2 words boltaneer..trade bait

Oh, I definitely think KC would love to trade down and get some more picks since they have a TON of needs to fill.

Whether or not the right players fall and someone is desperate to trade up at the right price is another story.

[elsid13]

kinda sounds like Bob is lookin for a date

Why??? did he poke a hole in another blow up doll???

[elsid13]

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2008/football/nfl/03/18/ryan.proday.ap/p1.ryan.ap.jpg

From SI - http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/03/18/ryan.proday.ap/

[Florida_Bronco]

Ha Croyle has poise and can control himself. Plummer may have been more athletic, but he couldn't handle the pressure. He even flipped the bird to his own fans due to frustration that he couldn't hold inside

Plummer was known for performing well under pressure and leading his team. It wasn't until the end of 2005 and 2006 season that he seemed to lose "it"

You're really grabbing at straws with the flipping the bird remark, as I don't think that equals "losing your cool" like you implied.

[KCStud]

You don't send your entire offense staff,HC and GM for smoke screen or to look at 2nd round RT. You do that if you want to ensure that you really have Franchise QB that you're thinking of drafting.

It's called trade bait. I seriously doubt KC takes Ryan, especially with the amount of optimistic things that Herm has said about Croyle. He likes Croyle. That is his guy. Croyle hasn't been given a fair chance to show his worth yet. A QB who plays behind an OL that gave up 55 sacks is bound to get hurt. And don't even bring Croyle's size into this because Huard is 218 pounds and got hurt as well

[KCStud]

Plummer was known for performing well under pressure and leading his team. It wasn't until the end of 2005 and 2006 season that he seemed to lose "it"

You're really grabbing at straws with the flipping the bird remark, as I don't think that equals "losing your cool" like you implied.

It's common knowledge that Plummer fell under pressure, especially when competition(Cutler) was brought in.

[Florida_Bronco]

It's common knowledge that Plummer fell under pressure, especially when competition(Cutler) was brought in.

Did you even read my post?

[KCStud]

apparently Donko fans have not read this important piece of info in the article...

"Kansas City coach Herm Edwards and general manager Carl Peterson were among those who watched more than three dozen players work out, including another potential first-rounder, Eagles offensive lineman Gosder Cherilus."

like I said..trade bait

[Inkana7]

apparently Donko fans have not read this important piece of info in the article...

"Kansas City coach Herm Edwards and general manager Carl Peterson were among those who watched more than three dozen players work out, including another potential first-rounder, Eagles offensive lineman Gosder Cherilus."

like I said..trade bait

Don't kid yourself.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Plummer was known for performing well under pressure.

ROFL!

[elsid13]

It's called trade bait. I seriously doubt KC takes Ryan, especially with the amount of optimistic things that Herm has said about Croyle. He likes Croyle. That is his guy. Croyle hasn't been given a fair chance to show his worth yet. A QB who plays behind an OL that gave up 55 sacks is bound to get hurt. And don't even bring Croyle's size into this because Huard is 218 pounds and got hurt as well

How can it be trade bait??? You're signal what who your interested in. That value the pick not the player.....

[elsid13]

apparently Donko fans have not read this important piece of info in the article...

"Kansas City coach Herm Edwards and general manager Carl Peterson were among those who watched more than three dozen players work out, including another potential first-rounder, Eagles offensive lineman Gosder Cherilus."

like I said..trade bait

So you sent your HC, OC, his staff and GM for 2nd round RT??? Right. There not going to be over wheming demand for Cherilus.

[boltaneer]

It's called trade bait. I seriously doubt KC takes Ryan, especially with the amount of optimistic things that Herm has said about Croyle. He likes Croyle. That is his guy. Croyle hasn't been given a fair chance to show his worth yet. A QB who plays behind an OL that gave up 55 sacks is bound to get hurt. And don't even bring Croyle's size into this because Huard is 218 pounds and got hurt as well

Believe me, Charger, Bronco and Raider fans alike are all rooting for Herm to give the job to Croyle this year and for many future years.

[Florida_Bronco]

Believe me, Charger, Bronco and Raider fans alike are all rooting for Herm to give the job to Croyle this year and for many future years.

This is true.

[KCStud]

So you sent your HC, OC, his staff and GM for 2nd round RT??? Right. There not going to be over wheming demand for Cherilus.

No team is going to tip their hand. KC obviously wanted to take a look at the kid, but I seriously doubt he is ahead of players like Dorsey, Long, Ellis, Otah and Clady

[Inkana7]

No team is going to tip their hand. KC obviously wanted to take a look at the kid, but I seriously doubt he is ahead of players like Dorsey, Long, Ellis, Otah and Clady

You overestimate the mind of Herm Edwards.

[KCStud]

Believe me, Charger, Bronco and Raider fans alike are all rooting for Herm to give the job to Croyle this year and for many future years.

Why? The guy looked good in the times he was protected. Croyle isn't in a situation where every player around him is an all star like Rivers.

One can only wonder what Rivers would truly look like if he was in a place like Arizona or KC

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I wish people would stop being so smug about Brodie Croyle failing. At this point he could be Joe Montana II with a cannon or he could be JP Losman II. Stop acting like you know either way.

[KCStud]

I wish people would stop being so smug about Brodie Croyle failing. At this point he could be Joe Montana II with a cannon or he could be JP Losman II. Stop acting like you know either way.

Ha I definitely agree with this. That would be just like saying all fans in the AFC West are happy Cutler is a Bronco because he can't get them a playoff win, let alone get them to the playoffs

[boltaneer]

That would be just like saying all fans in the AFC West are happy Cutler is a Bronco because he can't get them a playoff win, let alone get them to the playoffs

Oh, I love that about Cutler too! ;D

[Killericon]

I wish people would stop being so smug about Brodie Croyle failing. At this point he could be Joe Montana II with a cannon or he could be JP Losman II. Stop acting like you know either way.

Coming from you, that means a lot.

[elsid13]

I wish people would stop being so smug about Brodie Croyle failing. At this point he could be Joe Montana II with a cannon or he could be JP Losman II. Stop acting like you know either way.

Why??? Because it hurting your idol worship???

You're such a little pussy, all last night you attempted to ride Kaylore about his observations about Kuper and Myers (both who played and will start next season), but when others have something to say about your boy, you cry it not fair.

[Inkana7]

Ha I definitely agree with this. That would be just like saying all fans in the AFC West are happy Cutler is a Bronco because he can't get them a playoff win, let alone get them to the playoffs

There's a difference between getting a playoff win and getting a win. Period.

[KCStud]

There's a difference between getting a playoff win and getting a win. Period.

Actually, there really isn't. Cutler sat on his couch and watched the SD in the playoffs just like Croyle did.

[Inkana7]

Actually, there really isn't. Cutler sat on his couch and watched the SD in the playoffs just like Croyle did.

Keep telling yourself that. Meanwhile, I'll be over here laughing at how pathetic you are when you're backed into a corner.

:wave:

[Northman]

I wish people would stop being so smug about Brodie Croyle failing. At this point he could be Joe Montana II with a cannon or he could be JP Losman II. Stop acting like you know either way.

Pot meet Kettle.

[Florida_Bronco]

Actually, there really isn't. Cutler sat on his couch and watched the SD in the playoffs just like Croyle did.

So there's no difference between going 0-16 and 10-6 with a wild card loss? ???

[KCStud]

So there's no difference between going 0-16 and 10-6 with a wild card loss? ???

Yes there is. Do you understand anything people post? Croyle has just as much potential and has traits that can make him a better QB than Plummer. Do I have to spell it out for you?? :rofl:

[Florida_Bronco]

There's a difference between getting a playoff win and getting a win. Period.

Actually, there really isn't. Cutler sat on his couch and watched the SD in the playoffs just like Croyle did.


So there's no difference between going 0-16 and 10-6 with a wild card loss? ???

Yes there is. Do you understand anything people post? Croyle has just as much potential and has traits that can make him a better QB than Plummer. Do I have to spell it out for you?? :rofl:


Congratulations, you managed to completely contradict yourself a span of only 5 posts.

You are a world class tool. :thumbsup:

[DenverBrit]

Pot meet Kettle.

That's going to fly right over his head. Ha!

[DenverBrit]

Yes there is. Do you understand anything people post? Croyle has just as much potential and has traits that can make him a better QB than Plummer. Do I have to spell it out for you?? :rofl:

Even on a crappy team in AZ, Plummer won.
Croyle?? You'll still be talking about what might have been long after he's out of the league.
He's a backup QB on any team, except the Chiefs.

[KCStud]

Congratulations, you managed to completely contradict yourself a span of only 5 posts.

You are a world class tool. :thumbsup:

Way to throw two completely diffferent topics together to try to make a point.
The first comparison was Cutler and Croyle. The second was Croyle and Plummer.
There is not a difference between Croyle and Cutler, but there is between Croyle and Plummer.
Nice try though

[KCStud]

Even on a crappy team in AZ, Plummer won.
Croyle?? You'll still be talking about what might have been long after he's out of the league.
He's a backup QB on any team except, the Chiefs.

And you know this how? Since you can see the future, how bout givin me the lotto numbers!Booya!

[DenverBrit]

And you know this how? Since you can see the future, how bout givin me the lotto numbers!Booya!

I know this because your resident idiot, Boob thinks otherwise. :clown:

[Florida_Bronco]

Way to throw two completely diffferent topics together to try to make a point.
The first comparison was Cutler and Croyle. The second was Croyle and Plummer.
There is not a difference between Croyle and Cutler, but there is between Croyle and Plummer.
Nice try though

I very clearly documented the posts where you contradicted yourself.

[Florida_Bronco]

I know this because your resident idiot, Boob thinks otherwise. :clown:

This is true, if Bobo says something you can pretty much count on it being wrong.

[Northman]

This is true, if Bobo says something you can pretty much count on it being wrong.


Boob is the kiss of death for anything K.C related. Ha! LOL

[KCStud]

I very clearly documented the posts where you contradicted yourself.

Looks to me like you took pieces of 1 discussion and mixed it together with a completely different discussion and tried to make a point. Cutler hasn't taken you to the playoffs and I pointed that out, but gave credit to Joke Plummer for the playoff win

[Kaylore]

There is not a difference between Croyle and Cutler
:spit: