View Full Version : OT: This teacher has some real balls.
Beantown Bronco
03-14-2008, 01:52 PM
A Florida history teacher is out of the classroom after allegedly telling a 13-year-old student she had “nice, perky t**s” in front of the class, wftv.com reports.
The student accused William Musto, 44, of making the inappropriate comments about her body last Friday at Discovery Intermediate School in Poinciana, Fla. Musto has been reassigned to non-teaching duties while the Osceola County Sheriff's Office and the Department of Children and Families investigate, wftv.com reports.
While the victim’s mother says she is filing a police report, some students are coming to Musto’s defense.
"He didn't do anything! He just corrected someone about a dress code," one emotional student told wftv.com.
"He acts like a kid. He tries to be cool with the kids. Sometimes words just come out and it's too much," another student said.
Osceola County School District will not release Musto’s disciplinary record, but some students told wftv.com that last Christmas Musto dressed up as Santa and had girls sit on his lap.
Musto will be working away from students until the investigation is complete, wft.com reports.
Smiling Assassin27
03-14-2008, 01:56 PM
This dude could be the most straight laced, honest dude on the planet but he CANNOT say that crap, if he indeed said it. Reminds me of parents who want to be their kids' peer instead of their mom and dad.
NW Bolt Fan
03-14-2008, 01:59 PM
Sounds like something people should jump to a conclusion about...
broncosteven
03-14-2008, 02:07 PM
[B]"He didn't do anything! He just corrected someone about a dress code," one emotional student told wftv.com.
"He acts like a kid. He tries to be cool with the kids. Sometimes words just come out and it's too much," another student said.
Osceola County School District will not release Musto’s disciplinary record, but some students told wftv.com that last Christmas Musto dressed up as Santa and had girls sit on his lap.
Musto will be working away from students until the investigation is complete, wft.com reports.
He is not a kid and if he said that to my daughter I would have to restrain myself.
I would not accept any advances or and questional behavior from my kids teachers.
This is the problem with most parents today. They all want to be their kids friends instead of their role models.
Falconer
03-14-2008, 02:25 PM
He is not a kid and if he said that to my daughter I would have to restrain myself.
I would not accept any advances or and questional behavior from my kids teachers.
This is the problem with most parents today. They all want to be their kids friends instead of their role models.
I couldn't agree more.
Florida_Bronco
03-14-2008, 02:32 PM
It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.
Beantown Bronco
03-14-2008, 02:46 PM
Before the sanctimonious prudes in Osceola County start judging poor, hard working Mr. Musto, let's give him the benefit of a doubt. First of all, he obviously has made a connection with these kids. He's got them excited about learning and that's no small feat. He "acts like a kid." He's "cool." Granted sometimes words come out and it's too much, but he sounds like one of those teachers they make inspirational movies about where Robin Williams or Kevin Kline reaches the kids through some unorthodox teaching method and in the process runs afoul of the administration who just don't understand.
So like the kid said, let's be careful not to take his "nice, perky tits" remark out of context. There's got to be hundreds of perfectly legitimate reasons to say "nice, perky tits" to a 13 year old in a history class. The Tigris and the Euphrates were the Cradle of Civilization, in the same way that I'd like to cradle your nice, perky tits. Or Cortez went to the New World seeking gold and spices, which he needed the way I need your nice, perky tits. Or The pharoahs built the Great Pyramids which look very much like your nice, perky tits. So let's listen to the kids here and get off poor Mr. Musto's back.
Kaylore
03-14-2008, 02:58 PM
I love how they mentioned he played Santa and *GASP* they sat in his lap! OH the horror! He's clearly a pedophile rapist who beats his wife!
Seriously, what he did was wrong. I think context might change the tone of what was said, but as mentioned earlier these guys need to be respected first and then work on friendship second. Respect comes from behaving professionally. This he did not do.
broncosteven
03-14-2008, 03:40 PM
I love how they mentioned he played Santa and *GASP* they sat in his lap! OH the horror! He's clearly a pedophile rapist who beats his wife!
Seriously, what he did was wrong. I think context might change the tone of what was said, but as mentioned earlier these guys need to be respected first and then work on friendship second. Respect comes from behaving professionally. This he did not do.
I think I know what you are trying to say but I don't care what the context was.
How many women have you said "Nice Tits" or "My your tits are perky today" at work?
These teachers are supposed to be training our kids for the future, not pandering to what is Hip or "Cool"
I work with a lot of hot chicks but other than akward glances at clevage I am not complementing them on their racks. I do objectivify and am a pig at times but not in work enviroment where women are present and can be offended.
ayjackson
03-14-2008, 03:45 PM
Sounds like something people should jump to a conclusion about...
Very clever for a Charger fan. I note that in the post following yours, your point was proven as the assumption was made that the teacher was making advances on the student. At that point, I stopped reading the thread.
dbfan4life
03-14-2008, 03:46 PM
He is not a kid and if he said that to my daughter I would have to restrain myself.
Not saying this guy was right but how 'bout telling your daughter to put some clothes on and avoid the situation altogether.
Kaylore
03-14-2008, 03:51 PM
You know really this isn't appropriate regardless of who you are. I mean I guess if your wife/girlfriend likes to hear that, then that's cool but I can't really imagine any circumstance where using that language would be ok.
alkemical
03-14-2008, 03:52 PM
Kaylore, did i ever tell you - that you had a nice rack
dbfan4life
03-14-2008, 04:43 PM
You know really this isn't appropriate regardless of who you are. I mean I guess if your wife/girlfriend likes to hear that, then that's cool but I can't really imagine any circumstance where using that language would be ok.
Of course I know it's not appropriate. Just saying, her parents should have said something way before this teacher did.
Beantown Bronco
03-14-2008, 04:50 PM
Just saying, her parents should have said something way before this teacher did.
Call me a prude, but I don't think it's very appropriate for a father to tell his daughter that she has nice, perky t*ts either. :)
Los Broncos
03-14-2008, 05:01 PM
I guess it would be ok to think someone has nice boobs, but keep it to yourself.
Especially and underage girl, dam.
dbfan4life
03-14-2008, 05:01 PM
Call me a prude, but I don't think it's very appropriate for a father to tell his daughter that she has nice, perky t*ts either. :)
LOL
ElwayMD
03-14-2008, 05:08 PM
Sounds like he is one of those teachers that wants to be the "cool" teacher. As a teacher myself, it's great when the students are engaged and enjoy themselves and I can relate to them. But there are some subjects and things I will never speak about in class. Alcohol, Sex, Drugs, and Race make the short list. As a teacher you have to have your internal 5 second delay so you can stop and think before you actually say something. Sounds like he doesn't have that installed.
brncs_fan
03-14-2008, 05:09 PM
If I was to utter something like that in class, I would be fired before I could finish the sentence.
If you really want to be fascinated, look into the statistics of how often this happens in schools. It makes the rest of us cringe.
brncs_fan
03-14-2008, 05:11 PM
But there are some subjects and things I will never speak about in class. Alcohol, Sex, Drugs, and Race make the short list.
Those are all things I try to hit on at some point through the year. History makes it easy to do that though.
DomCasual
03-14-2008, 05:14 PM
Not saying this guy was right but how 'bout telling your daughter to put some clothes on and avoid the situation altogether.
I say the same thing about rape victims. They're clearly asking for it. And I don't understand why they don't just accept it - lay back and enjoy it, rather than fighting it.
This 13-year-old girl obviously needs to learn her place in life - that place is as a sexual apparatus. ::)
ElwayMD
03-14-2008, 05:18 PM
Those are all things I try to hit on at some point through the year. History makes it easy to do that though.
Hard for me to work those into my lectures about television cameras and videotape...if I get to teach media ethics...look out, that's all the class will talk about.
brncs_fan
03-14-2008, 05:22 PM
Hard for me to work those into my lectures about television cameras and videotape...if I get to teach media ethics...look out, that's all the class will talk about.
Can't you incorporate the ethics in with the rest of that?
c_lazy_r
03-14-2008, 05:30 PM
Not saying this guy was right but how 'bout telling your daughter to put some clothes on and avoid the situation altogether.
What?
DomCasual
03-14-2008, 05:42 PM
What?
Sort of my initial response.
dbfan4life
03-14-2008, 07:19 PM
I say the same thing about rape victims. They're clearly asking for it. And I don't understand why they don't just accept it - lay back and enjoy it, rather than fighting it.
This 13-year-old girl obviously needs to learn her place in life - that place is as a sexual apparatus. ::)
Are you friggin' kidding me??? Comparing a rape victim to this girl who wore revealing clothing to school??? Here's my point. I see my daughter leaving the house wearing something that she knows she shouldn't be wearing to school. Do I stop her or do I turn away and let her leave??? I, in no way, condoned what the teacher did. Comparing this situation to a rape victim is flat out ridiculous. Drama Queen.
SureShot
03-14-2008, 07:47 PM
This is the perfect thread for this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxIAg-lMd-U
DomCasual
03-14-2008, 07:55 PM
Are you friggin' kidding me??? Comparing a rape victim to this girl who wore revealing clothing to school??? Here's my point. I see my daughter leaving the house wearing something that she knows she shouldn't be wearing to school. Do I stop her or do I turn away and let her leave??? I, in no way, condoned what the teacher did. Comparing this situation to a rape victim is flat out ridiculous. Drama Queen.
Sure, it was an extreme example. But the concept is the same. I don't care what she wears to school. If the teacher indeed made that comment, it's beyond ridiculous, and he should be fired.
I knew a crazy Evangelical pastor growing up who was sued for the counsel he gave a young girl who told him about sexual abuse she suffered at the hands of her father. His counsel? "Stop wearing such revealing clothes around the house!" The man abused all three of his daughters, starting when they were about 8. It happened over the course of about ten years.
Kids do stupid things. They push boundaries. That doesn't give adults the right to sink to the lowest common denominator.
It's honestly shocking that you would even try and make the argument.
penguintheory
03-14-2008, 09:16 PM
still waiting for California to secede from the union...
Lestat
03-14-2008, 09:34 PM
that deserves a suspension right there.
i don't care what context it was in you don't tell a 13 y/o she has a nice rack, heck you don't mention anything about her body parts period
~Crash~
03-14-2008, 10:35 PM
He didn't do anything! He just corrected someone about a dress code,"
I think he meant this but like you ..."what "
fontaine
03-15-2008, 08:43 AM
Kaylore, did i ever tell you - that you had a nice rack
ROFL!
Let me guess. You want to dress up as Santa and have Kaylore sit on your lap?
alkemical
03-15-2008, 10:59 AM
I'll play your reindeer games
footstepsfrom#27
03-15-2008, 11:45 AM
He is not a kid and if he said that to my daughter I would have to restrain myself.
Why?
Bronx33
03-15-2008, 12:07 PM
Musto stepped over the thin line with that comment he should know better.
Osceola County School District will not release Musto’s disciplinary record, but some students told wftv.com that last Christmas Musto dressed up as Santa and had girls sit on his lap.
Sorry that's just creepy.
At 44 and being a teacher this guy should act like a adult. No matter what the parents are peers, friends, role models. The teacher shouldn't be acting like that in class.
I blame his actions for getting him into this situation. Not the girls or her parents.
If she wants the attention fine, let her have it from the students. But for christ sake be an adult and not put yourself into a position like this...
Musto stepped over the thin line with that comment he should know better.
He's thinking with the wrong head, at the wrong place and time.
Kind of disturbing and creepy.
If you want to look at a young girls rack, you just pretend something is stuck in your eye like the rest of us.
what a creep.
Atwater His Ass
03-15-2008, 03:29 PM
What the teacher said was wrong, no way around it, no matter what the girl was or was not wearing.
However, I fail to see what is wrong with as a parent, being aware of what type of clothing your children are wearing to school.
Two different subjects here, and let's not attempt to justify this teachers comments, but also let's not lose sight of the fact that parents should be responisble for what their children are wearing.
Needa Pass Rush
03-15-2008, 04:35 PM
Sort of my initial response.
Kind of like Spitzer blaming the prostitute.... or the FBI. :hitself:
Needa Pass Rush
03-15-2008, 04:36 PM
What the teacher said was wrong, no way around it, no matter what the girl was or was not wearing.
However, I fail to see what is wrong with as a parent, being aware of what type of clothing your children are wearing to school.
Two different subjects here, and let's not attempt to justify this teachers comments, but also let's not lose sight of the fact that parents should be responisble for what their children are wearing.
What was she wearing?
Atwater His Ass
03-15-2008, 04:41 PM
What was she wearing?
You're confusing the 2 seperate issues, but nice try with the baiting and all.
Los Broncos
03-15-2008, 04:52 PM
What the teacher said was wrong, no way around it, no matter what the girl was or was not wearing.
However, I fail to see what is wrong with as a parent, being aware of what type of clothing your children are wearing to school.
Two different subjects here, and let's not attempt to justify this teachers comments, but also let's not lose sight of the fact that parents should be responisble for what their children are wearing.
I agree one hundred percent.
I see what kids are wearing these days, its nuts.
I live near a high school, i see these girls walking home in stuff that is unacceptable to me.
Needa Pass Rush
03-15-2008, 06:25 PM
You're confusing the 2 seperate issues, but nice try with the baiting and all.
A simple question shows I'm confused? You are the one ready to crucify this young lady for her attire. I'm just curious what it is? Do you know or not? :-*
Atwater His Ass
03-15-2008, 06:30 PM
A simple question shows I'm confused? You are the one ready to crucify this young lady for her attire. I'm just curious what it is? Do you know or not? :-*
Where did I "crucify" her? I merely stated that parents need to be aware of what their kids are wearing.
Needa Pass Rush
03-15-2008, 06:32 PM
Where did I "crucify" her? I merely stated that parents need to be aware of what their kids are wearing.
So the answer is no? :welcome:
Atwater His Ass
03-15-2008, 06:44 PM
Again, you either are confused about the 2 topics being discussed in this thread, or are pretty thick, or just looking for a fight.
Your badgering of what she was wearing has absolutely nothing to do with the original topic of the thread, yet you are somehow determined to apply it in such a way which only continues to show your confusing of the 2 very seperate issues being discussed.
Needa Pass Rush
03-15-2008, 08:30 PM
Again, you either are confused about the 2 topics being discussed in this thread, or are pretty thick, or just looking for a fight.
Your badgering of what she was wearing has absolutely nothing to do with the original topic of the thread, yet you are somehow determined to apply it in such a way which only continues to show your confusing of the 2 very seperate issues being discussed.
Atwater... look, I simply asked what she was wearing. That seems to be of some issue in this discussion. Go back and look for yourself. "What was she wearing"? If you don't know.. don't respond.
TomServo
03-16-2008, 02:34 AM
Atwater... look, I simply asked what she was wearing. That seems to be of some issue in this discussion. Go back and look for yourself. "What was she wearing"? If you don't know.. don't respond.
doesnt matter. a real teacher would have sent her home if she was dressed slutty, not acted like a world class perv.
if a teacher asked my daughter that, regardless if she changed after she left the house, i would go to the school and punch him in the mouth.<!-- / message -->
broncosteven
03-16-2008, 08:41 PM
Not saying this guy was right but how 'bout telling your daughter to put some clothes on and avoid the situation altogether.
She is 5 years old. We still buy her clothes.
I don't know what will happen in 8 years, chances are she will not listen to everything I say and do what she wants when I am not looking.
Hence the need for role models and professionals that are her teachers.
broncosteven
03-16-2008, 08:45 PM
doesnt matter. a real teacher would have sent her home if she was dressed slutty, not acted like a world class perv.
if a teacher asked my daughter that, regardless if she changed after she left the house, i would go to the school and punch him in the mouth.<!-- / message -->
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