Can someone explain this ?

[Spider]

Last year at my D.O.T. Physical , they told me I had Sugar Diabetes , suger in the urine was +2 ( told that was really high ) I had lost 43 pounds inbetween phyisscals , and they said this was a serious sign and I need to make an appointments right away ...... I didnt , been over a year now , went in for anther D.O.T physical , Holding 220 pounds blood pressure 128/72 pluse rate 68 , and no signs of Sugar Diabetes ....... I changed my diet , started drinking diet pop , coffee , more water , but I thought once you had Diabetes that was it , yo uhad it for life ........

[Los Broncos]

Dont drink diet pop any longer, aspartame can kill you.

[Kaylore]

Diabetes can be managed with proper diet and exercise to the point where you don't respond like a "normal" diabetic.

[Spider]

Dont drink diet pop any longer, aspartame can kill you.

;D my wife and Kids will beat aspartame to the punch ..... Besides at my age , by the time I get cancer from it , I will be in a wheel chair screaming for someone to change my depends

[Spider]

Diabetes can be managed with proper diet and exercise to the point where you don't respond like a "normal" diabetic.

could that be my situation ?

[SonOfLe-loLang]

I believe diabetes caused by weight gain can go away (or the one associated with weight)

[Florida_Bronco]

Kaylore is right. Depending on what kind of diabetes you have, with a proper diet and work you can actually (to my understanding) become "non diabetic"

I'm not really sure how it works, but I have known a couple people who really worked on it and stayed on top of their diet so well that their doctors said they didn't need the medicine anymore.

[Beantown Bronco]

Last year at my D.O.T. Physical , they told me I had Sugar Diabetes , suger in the urine was +2 ( told that was really high ) I had lost 43 pounds inbetween phyisscals , and they said this was a serious sign and I need to make an appointments right away ...... I didnt , been over a year now , went in for anther D.O.T physical , Holding 220 pounds blood pressure 128/72 pluse rate 68 , and no signs of Sugar Diabetes ....... I changed my diet , started drinking diet pop , coffee , more water , but I thought once you had Diabetes that was it , yo uhad it for life ........

You are correct. With sugar diabetes at least, you can't simply get rid of it by changing diet, etc. Once you have it, you have it. You can only hope to delay the progression of it and "manage" it.

http://www.sugardiabetes.net/

I'm guessing it was mis-diagnosed last year. Switched urine sample or something of that ilk. Happens more than one might think.

[Los Broncos]

;D my wife and Kids will beat aspartame to the punch ..... Besides at my age , by the time I get cancer from it , I will be in a wheel chair screaming for someone to change my depends

I was just saying man because i read some info on it.

If it heats up to 85 degrees, it becomes a nerve toxin.

[Kaylore]

could that be my situation ?

It's possible. You were someone that fits the bill as you've lost the excess weight and whatnot. I'm sure Dr. Broncostein, Kappys or one of the other resident Maniacs that has medical credentials could enlighten us further.

[Spider]

Thanks for all the responses , I got a very clean bill of health , strong as an ox ;D the doctor said if he didnt know me , he would have mistaken me for a 30 something guy ......

[Los Broncos]

Thanks for all the responses , I got a very clean bill of health , strong as an ox ;D the doctor said if he didnt know me , he would have mistaken me for a 30 something guy ......

Hell on two feet. ^5

[Kaylore]

Thanks for all the responses , I got a very clean bill of health , strong as an ox ;D the doctor said if he didnt know me , he would have mistaken me for a 30 something guy ......

Like when TheDave is always asking people if they mistake him for Bea Arthur?

[Raiders Rock]

Last year at my D.O.T. Physical , they told me I had Sugar Diabetes , suger in the urine was +2 ( told that was really high ) I had lost 43 pounds inbetween phyisscals , and they said this was a serious sign and I need to make an appointments right away ...... I didnt , been over a year now , went in for anther D.O.T physical , Holding 220 pounds blood pressure 128/72 pluse rate 68 , and no signs of Sugar Diabetes ....... I changed my diet , started drinking diet pop , coffee , more water , but I thought once you had Diabetes that was it , yo uhad it for life ........

You always have diabetes... the reason is Spider that your levels have to be real high to spill over in the urine and just because it is not showing up in the urine does not mean you are cured.

You need to go to the doctor NOW and get an A1C test.... and take the meds he gives you.

They can pull your license and well as you can do major damage to your eyes body with sustained high sugar levels.
we talked about this b4 spider

[Spider]

Like when TheDave is always asking people if they mistake him for Bea Arthur?

LOL is that where that joke came from ?

[55CrushEm]

I was just saying man because i read some info on it.

If it heats up to 85 degrees, it becomes a nerve toxin.

Well that's a relief........fortunately for me, I keep and drink my Diet Coke at a refreshing 35 degrees. :thumbsup:

[Spider]

You always have diabetes... the reason is Spider that your levels have to be real high to spill over in the urine and just because it is not showing up in the urine does not mean you are cured.

You need to go to the doctor NOW and get an A1C test.... and take the meds he gives you.

They can pull your license and well as you can do major damage to your eyes body with sustained high sugar levels.
we talked about this b4 spider

well thats why I never made the follow up appointment , I dont want ot lose my CDL .....

[Spider]

I just as soon be dead then a has been

[loborugger]

I am not a doctor, but I play one on the Orangemane...

If I was you, I would go to a Doc, ask for a 2nd opinion, and ask him to rectify the difference it the two readings.

Something like this happened to my Brother in law just in Jan. Between Xmas day and Jan 31st, he lost 30 lbs. He was drinking constantly and pissing constantly, had blurry vision. He goes to the hospital cuz "he doesnt feel very well" to find out his blood sugar is over 1000.

Turns out, he has always had Type 1 Diabetes (the kind you are born with) & it just decided to wait til his mid 30s to rear its ugly head.

[Los Broncos]

Well that's a relief........fortunately for me, I keep and drink my Diet Coke at a refreshing 35 degrees. :thumbsup:

What about once inside the body?

Our body temp is 98.6 degrees fahrenheit.

[Raiders Rock]

You can help yourself out greatly by losing weight but it is not a cure, once you have Diabetes you have it for life and denial won't make it go away.

Doctors mess up when they tell a patient there is a little sugar in the blood but there is nothing to worry about.

Get that A1C done as soon as possible

[Dr. Broncenstein]

Last year at my D.O.T. Physical , they told me I had Sugar Diabetes , suger in the urine was +2 ( told that was really high ) I had lost 43 pounds inbetween phyisscals , and they said this was a serious sign and I need to make an appointments right away ...... I didnt , been over a year now , went in for anther D.O.T physical , Holding 220 pounds blood pressure 128/72 pluse rate 68 , and no signs of Sugar Diabetes ....... I changed my diet , started drinking diet pop , coffee , more water , but I thought once you had Diabetes that was it , yo uhad it for life ........

There are two general types of diabetes mellitus (excluding pregnancy).

Type I is caused by underproduction of insulin. You cannot "get rid" of this type except for in theory a pancreatic transplant.

Type II is caused by relative resistance to insulin... usually (but not always) due to being overweight. There is al kinds of literature to show that type II diabetics can become disease free with substantial weight loss.

[Raiders Rock]

well thats why I never made the follow up appointment , I dont want ot lose my CDL .....

you won't lose it

I have D and have a CDL.

All Diabetics are not insulin dependent, proper diet and excercise and you will be in the range in no time flat

[theAPAOps5]

Actually I am on board with Lynch. I switched from sugar sodas to diet about 2 years ago. I started having panic attacks and other weird events. I heard about aspartame and did research. Turns out aspartame is some nasty ass stuff. There is a lot of controversy over why the FDA passed it. I was a soda holic. So I was loading my body up with aspartame. I quite about a month ago. I now have one cup of coffee in the morning and a regular Mt. Dew at lunch. The rest of the time its water, green tea, and juice. Man I have never felt better and the panic attacks are gone, I am not on edge, and I have a lot more concentration.

As for the Diabetes Spider could be you had an anomoly on your test. A false positive if you will.

[Spider]

There are two general types of diabetes mellitus (excluding pregnancy).

Type I is caused by underproduction of insulin. You cannot "get rid" of this type except for in theory a pancreatic transplant.

Type II is caused by relative resistance to insulin... usually (but not always) due to being overweight. There is al kinds of literature to show that type II diabetics can become disease free with substantial weight loss.

well I was tipping the scales at 270 4 years ago ,( I carried the weight well ) way too heavy , so I thought I would drop down to 250 , felt good so went all the way down to 220 ..... I feel great at this wieght , I dont want to drop any more , I am so damn skinny now I could fall through my ass and hang myself ....

[Los Broncos]

Actually I am on board with Lynch. I switched from sugar sodas to diet about 2 years ago. I started having panic attacks and other weird events. I heard about aspartame and did research. Turns out aspartame is some nasty ass stuff. There is a lot of controversy over why the FDA passed it. I was a soda holic. So I was loading my body up with aspartame. I quite about a month ago. I now have one cup of coffee in the morning and a regular Mt. Dew at lunch. The rest of the time its water, green tea, and juice. Man I have never felt better and the panic attacks are gone, I am not on edge, and I have a lot more concentration.

As for the Diabetes Spider could be you had an anomoly on your test. A false positive if you will.

Yep, my girlfriend has drank diet and regular coke for years.

Now she takes meds for her anxiety disorder.

She refuses to drink water, her whole family drinks soda.

All i drink is fresh water from the nearest water store.

Now all i have to do is lose some weight.

[Raiders Rock]

the only way you could have a false positive on a urine test is if you had unclean hands when you were submitting the sample.

people look.... 20 + million people in the USA have type 2 diabetes and another 10 million have no idea they have it (I bet more)

I went thru the denial stage but it's a waste of time, if you are producing enough sugar to show up in urine you cannot deny it.

When you produce sugar in you urine it is actually spilling over into it , its the bodys defense to try to remove it from your system thats why you get real thirsty and have to pee alot.

[Spider]

you won't lose it

I have D and have a CDL.

All Diabetics are not insulin dependent, proper diet and excercise and you will be in the range in no time flat

well Let me get my truck back in the black , and get my brother above water , then I will make an appointment

[Raiders Rock]

well Let me get my truck back in the black , and get my brother above water , then I will make an appointment

Yea but you are risking a heart attack and doing damage to your kidneys that could kill you or mess you up for life.

You need meds and education Spider, don't believe the snake oil theories man, this stuff is not a joke, it killed my mother.

My mother neglected hers too, they had to amputate 2 of her toes without even have to numb them..... she could not even feel her feet.

The choices you make TODAY will effect you later on down the road big time.

[Raiders Rock]

Diabetes often goes undiagnosed because many of its symptoms seem so harmless. Recent studies indicate that the early detection of diabetes symptoms and treatment can decrease the chance of developing the complications of diabetes.
Some diabetes symptoms including

* Frequent urination
* Excessive thirst
* Extreme hunger
* Unusual weight loss
* Increased fatigue
* Irritability
* Blurry vision

If you have one or more of these diabetes symptoms, see your doctor right away. You can also take our Online Diabetes Risk Test to find out if you are at risk for diabetes.

http://www.truckingboards.com/trucking/upload/truck-drivers-health/18639-diabetes-insulin-commercial-drivers-license.html

[theAPAOps5]

You are right I was thinking blood test. Because I was just at the doc office this morning and the wife was getting her sugar test for Gestational Diabetes. The doctor was explaining why you have to fast and only drink water for an hour after taking the glucose drink or you might get a a false positive. But that was in regards to a blood test not a urine test.

[55CrushEm]

What about once inside the body?

Our body temp is 98.6 degrees fahrenheit.

Whoops. :bomb:

[Spider]

Yea but you are risking a heart attack and doing damage to your kidneys that could kill you or mess you up for life.

You need meds and education Spider, don't believe the snake oil theories man, this stuff is not a joke, it killed my mother.

My mother neglected hers too, they had to amputate 2 of her toes without even have to numb them..... she could not even feel her feet.

The choices you make TODAY will effect you later on down the road big time.

I know .........but right now I got 8 people to feed , a struggling trucking comapny to worry about ......

[Raiders Rock]

I know .........but right now I got 8 people to feed , a struggling trucking comapny to worry about ......


Metformin costs 4 dollars a month at Wally World.... that is the most common drug and what appears to be safest.

They won't take you off the road right off the bat, they will give you a certain time limit to get it down.

When Diagnosed I was at 9.4 now I hover around 5.8 - 6.0 I think they want you lower than 7.5 to be a driver.

The sooner you get on the proper meds the sooner you will feel better and give yourself the best shot at being around for the family you are feeding.

Can't feed em if you aint here bro

[Spider]

Diabetes often goes undiagnosed because many of its symptoms seem so harmless. Recent studies indicate that the early detection of diabetes symptoms and treatment can decrease the chance of developing the complications of diabetes.
Some diabetes symptoms including
I will answer these 1 by 1
* Frequent urinationNope , in fact we waited 3 hours for me to unrinate , slamming down water and coffee
* Excessive thirst no , I am a sipper .....
* Extreme hunger at first , but not now ....... though I do have to have 3 meals a day
* Unusual weight loss my weight loss was planned , thoug hit did go quicker then I thought
* Increased fatigue this is tricky .... some times I can go 1100 miles , other times I am lucky to get in 500
* Irritability ;D you should know I am never irritable , i got people skills
* Blurry vision I did have to start wearing glass in 05

If you have one or more of these diabetes symptoms, see your doctor right away. You can also take our Online Diabetes Risk Test to find out if you are at risk for diabetes.

http://www.truckingboards.com/trucking/upload/truck-drivers-health/18639-diabetes-insulin-commercial-drivers-license.html

I hope I am cured

[Raiders Rock]

eat lots of fiber,
eat only whole grain foods
no refined sugar
limit pasta
eat fruit but in moderation.
fiber is very important in a diabetics diet
Soluble fiber is good for cholesterol and the other kind helps keep your insides in good shape.
All your target numbers go down when you are Diabetic, they want the cholesterol lower than the avg person and the blood pressure too.

I will help you man, I will give you my number after you go to the doc and you can call me anytime, I am in the same boat but I am managing well and you can too

[Spider]

eat lots of fiber,
eat only whole grain foods
no refined sugar
limit pasta
eat fruit but in moderation.
fiber is very important in a diabetics diet
Soluble fiber is good for cholesterol and the other kind helps keep your insides in good shape.
All your target numbers go down when you are Diabetic, they want the cholesterol lower than the avg person and the blood pressure too.

I will help you man, I will give you my number after you go to the doc and you can call me anytime, I am in the same boat but I am managing well and you can too
Thanks for the offer Bro ...... I will take you up on it .....

[theAPAOps5]

Spider it seems to me your numbers are already low. So per RR that puts you in the safe to drive zone. Its for your own benefit.

You also have to look at why the DOT puts a limit on Diabetic drivers. You go into a Diabetic seizure or coma you are going to hurt people. You aren't at that stage and you are healthy but you need to take care of yourself.

Its a tough spot though because of your situation so I see your side as well.

[Spider]

Spider it seems to me your numbers are already low. So per RR that puts you in the safe to drive zone. Its for your own benefit.

You also have to look at why the DOT puts a limit on Diabetic drivers. You go into a Diabetic seizure or coma you are going to hurt people. You aren't at that stage and you are healthy but you need to take care of yourself.

Its a tough spot though because of your situation so I see your side as well.

I know it is a serious deal , I dont mean to trivialize it

[Raiders Rock]

Thanks for the offer Bro ...... I will take you up on it .....

Just remember, its better to know for sure than worry yourself to death thinking about it.
Stress increases blood sugar by causing your liver to release it in your blood stream. so if you are stressing you are.

Do you need me to send you a meter and some test strips to use for a month?

I will set it up for you and all you basically need to do is prick your finger and get a drop of blood before you eat or drink anything in the morning

2 hours after you eat lunch
and right b4 bed at night.

and write down all the numbers

I would like to have the meter back but you are welcome to use it for a month to let me compare my numbers with yours

[Raiders Rock]

Spider it seems to me your numbers are already low. So per RR that puts you in the safe to drive zone. Its for your own benefit.

You also have to look at why the DOT puts a limit on Diabetic drivers. You go into a Diabetic seizure or coma you are going to hurt people. You aren't at that stage and you are healthy but you need to take care of yourself.

Its a tough spot though because of your situation so I see your side as well.

most type 2's only have a problem going high on their blood glucose, increasing the risk for stroke and heart attack and blurry vision kidney damage etc.

type 1's usually are the ones that have the seizures from the low numbers.

Of course anyone who is using insulin runs that risk.

in type 2's the pancreas is actually producing insulin but it's either too little or not working well enough.

Imagine every beta cell had a door to open to let the sugar in your blood go in to produce energy for the body.
when the doors fail to open the sugar stays in the blood, and is what is referred to as insulin resistant.

drugs like metformin make these doors on the cells more sensitive to open to deliver the goods

[Spider]

most type 2's only have a problem going high on their blood glucose, increasing the risk for stroke and heart attack and blurry vision kidney damage etc.

type 1's usually are the ones that have the seizures from the low numbers.

Of course anyone who is using insulin runs that risk.

in type 2's the pancreas is actually producing insulin but it's either too little or not working well enough.

Imagine every beta cell had a door to open to let the sugar in your blood go in to produce energy for the body.
when the doors fail to open the sugar stays in the blood, and is what is referred to as insulin resistant.

drugs like metformin make these doors on the cells more sensitive to open to deliver the goods
;D I got a meter , though I havent used it in months ..... Highest reading I got was 158 ...... Lowest was 120 ..... this is after diet , so I dont know what it was before

[LittleFloyd]

There is a huge difference between diabetes, called Type 1 and Type 2. Type 2 can usually be taken care of by lifestyle changes, diet and exercise. Type 1's, like myself, need to add insulin.

Good for you in being able to handle your diabetes.

[Smiling Assassin27]

have you been pregnant in the last year or so?

[Kaylore]

have you been pregnant in the last year or so?

Spider is perennially pregnant.

[Bronx33]

Spider is perennially pregnant.



Word is he can't even look directly at his old lady without her getting pregnant.

[Spider]

have you been pregnant in the last year or so?

funny you asked . yes i was pregnant .. giving birth to an elephant , I can see its trunk already

[Bob]

Last year at my D.O.T. Physical , they told me I had Sugar Diabetes , suger in the urine was +2 ( told that was really high ) I had lost 43 pounds inbetween phyisscals , and they said this was a serious sign and I need to make an appointments right away ...... I didnt , been over a year now , went in for anther D.O.T physical , Holding 220 pounds blood pressure 128/72 pluse rate 68 , and no signs of Sugar Diabetes ....... I changed my diet , started drinking diet pop , coffee , more water , but I thought once you had Diabetes that was it , yo uhad it for life ........


Good for you, I'm happy that you were able to get it under control. People who are borderline can often get off meds if they loose wieght, excercise, and get on a better diet-- sounds like you only had to do 1/3 of it.

Maybe you were living on Hardees' French fries before?

[broncofan7]

Spider, as others have stated here, Diabetes is a serious condition that leads to both macrovascular complications and microvascular complications. As you might suppose, Macrovascular side effects include those which affect the cardiovascular system, kidney function and eye function. Microvascular complications can include diabetic neuropathy (twinges in your periphery, painful pricking sensations) and impotence--who ever suggested you get a HBA1C is right on--you want your value to be around 7--previously it was thought that the lower the number the better (6.5 was the goal) but now we have concluded that trying to maintain a patient at a level of 6.5 or below was not very practical due to the poly-pharmacy aspect of glucose control at that level. HBA1c is an average of the amount of glucose that your blood is "carrying" over the last 8 weeks or so--think of it as your report card for glucose control versus a diabetic blood test strip meter which will show you what your glucose is currently (think of it as an exam grade)---PM me if you have any questions that you do not want addressed publicly

[cutthemdown]

Congrats on losing the lbs, its not easy to do. Also I know a friend who can control his diabetes with diet. I think there is type one and type 2. Insulin dependant type 1 cant control with diet, but type 2 can I think. I don't know for sure though but in any even congrats on the cleaner bill of health. The whole country needs to get on a fitness craze. We are fat fat fat. I know I am so I have been riding my lifecycle 3 times a week and walking 3 miles everyday. Been at it for about 8 weeks now and its incredible how much better you feel when you excersize.

[cutthemdown]

Spider is so potent that he cries sperm.

[Spider]

Good for you, I'm happy that you were able to get it under control. People who are borderline can often get off meds if they loose wieght, excercise, and get on a better diet-- sounds like you only had to do 1/3 of it.

Maybe you were living on Hardees' French fries before?

;D before I was told I diabetes , McDonalds , Hardees , wendys , greasy spoon dinners ..... Regualr pop , energy drinks , candy , now , diet soda , 1 plate of breakfast , lunch and dinner , small snacks inbetween , stay away from fast food , and alot of dinners , I still eat alot of mexican food though ;D

[Spider]

Spider, as others have stated here, Diabetes is a serious condition that leads to both macrovascular complications and microvascular complications. As you might suppose, Macrovascular side effects include those which affect the cardiovascular system, kidney function and eye function. Microvascular complications can include diabetic neuropathy (twinges in your periphery, painful pricking sensations) and impotence--who ever suggested you get a HBA1C is right on--you want your value to be around 7--previously it was thought that the lower the number the better (6.5 was the goal) but now we have concluded that trying to maintain a patient at a level of 6.5 or below was not very practical due to the poly-pharmacy aspect of glucose control at that level. HBA1c is an average of the amount of glucose that your blood is "carrying" over the last 8 weeks or so--think of it as your report card for glucose control versus a diabetic blood test strip meter which will show you what your glucose is currently (think of it as an exam grade)---PM me if you have any questions that you do not want addressed publicly
thanks bro ......I dont know what it meant ,but the Glucose in my urine was +2 ..... I have no Idea what that means , but it is on my DAC now