Mike Shanahan Top 10 Best Draft Picks

[SleepingTiger]

Popps came up with the idea in another thread, so I decided to create a separate thread.

The things I looked for are:

Production on the field (as a Bronco or another team)
In what round the player was drafted

1) Terrel Davis 6th 95 - Should be in the HOF, SB MVP, MVP 98, 2000 rushing yrds in a season
2) Al Wilson 1st 99 - Heart n Soul of the Defense for many years, 2 x all-pro
3) Trevor Price 1st 97
4) Brandon Marshall 4th 06 - Still to young and question mark on character. Potential to be the best WR in Bronco History
5) Jay Cutler 1st 06 - Potential HOF and perennial Pro Bowler.
6) Clinton Portis 2nd 02 - Explosive RB that we traded for Champ Bailey.
7) Elvis Dumervil 4th 06 - Lead the team in sacks as a Rookie
8) John Mobley 1st 96 - Great career cut short by injury
9) Dan Neil 2nd 97
10) Reggie Hayward 2nd 01

Honorable Mention

Ben Hamilton 4th 01
Mike Anderson 6th 00
Ian Gold 2nd 00
Darrent Williams 2nd 05
Tony Scheffler 2nd 06
DJ Wiliams 1st 04

I think any of the above can be interchanged with spots 9 and 10.

FLAME AWAY!

[Los Broncos]

The more i think of Marshall the more excited i get.

[colonelbeef]

Desmond Clark 6th 179th overall isnt bad either, he has had a nice career
Cooper Carlisle 4th 112th overall is a nice pickup
Mike Anderson 6th 189 is a great pick
Ben Hamilton 4th 113 overall

the whole 2006 draft is an amazing one, too bad they gave up on Hixon so quickly. look at this class.

Jay Cutler 1st (11)
Tony Sheffler 2nd (61)
Brandon Marshall 4th (119)
Elvis Dumervil 4th (126)
Domenick Hixon 4th (130)
Chris Kuper 5th (161)
Greg Eslinger 6th (198)

The past three drafts have been good ones for Shanahan, 2005 got us Darrent Williams, Foxworth, Myers, Paymah. Even if Moss is the injury project he looks to be right now, Crowder, Harris, and Marcus Thomas are all players. Shanahan has gotten much better with the draft over the years, 2003 notwithstanding. Reading through the 2005-07 drafts just got me psyched for this draft. also reinforced the idea that Shanahan knows RB's and OL's so well that we can afford to use the #12 on defense, he has a good enough eye for talent that I will be comfortable with OL being addressed with the 2nd and one of the 4ths.

[Finger Roll]

Niel and Heyward were actually 3rd round picks not 2nd

[55CrushEm]

The more i think of Marshall the more excited i get.

Keep your private thoughts......well, private. :)

[Los Broncos]

Keep your private thoughts......well, private. :)

I knew that was coming after i posted it.

Unlike some people, im a snail rubber. :D

[SleepingTiger]

Niel and Heyward were actually 3rd round picks not 2nd

Your right about Hayward being in the 3rd, but Neil was drafted in the 2nd

2 (67) Dan Neil G/C Texas

[Txdonk]

No, Neil was a drafted in the 3rd round.

Think about it, there was only 28 or 29 teams back then, how could #67 overall be in the 2nd round?

Your right about Hayward being in the 3rd, but Neil was drafted in the 2nd

2 (67) Dan Neil G/C Texas

[NYC Bronco]

Nalen!!!!!

[Beantown Bronco]

The third round is correct for Neil:

http://football.about.com/od/nfldrafthistory/a/1997draftresult_2.htm

[SonOfLe-loLang]

Might wanna take a relaxi taxi on the potential HOF for Cutler bit for now.

[Beantown Bronco]

Nalen!!!!!

Shanny didn't select him.

[SonOfLe-loLang]

Nalen!!!!!

Nalen was pre shanny

[2KBack]

I think the last few drafts will probably domiate a list like this pretty soon. Still I think the jury is out for a lot of them still.

I think Mike Anderson needs to be pretty high considering all he did for the team.

I think Matt Lepsis needs to be there.

Byron Chamberlain in 7th round was a nice pickup, as was Desmond Clark in the 6th

[SonOfLe-loLang]

I think the last few drafts will probably domiate a list like this pretty soon. Still I think the jury is out for a lot of them still.

I think Mike Anderson needs to be pretty high considering all he did for the team.

I think Matt Lepsis needs to be there.

Byron Chamberlain in 7th round was a nice pickup, as was Desmond Clark in the 6th

Lepsis was a rookie FA

[2KBack]

Lepsis was a rookie FA

I know, but still a shannahan pick up. I think it should count, but I don't make the rules I guess.

[SleepingTiger]

No, Neil was a drafted in the 3rd round.

Think about it, there was only 28 or 29 teams back then, how could #67 overall be in the 2nd round?

Maybe it was a compensary pick in the 2nd rd? :wiggle:

I didn't even notice the 67, i just saw the 2nd round. stupid broncos website.

[SureShot]

Might wanna take a relaxi taxi on the potential HOF for Cutler bit for now.

Why? He put up great numbers on one of the worst bronco teams in the last 20 years.

[SonOfLe-loLang]

Why? He put up great numbers on one of the worst bronco teams in the last 20 years.

Very good, sure....HOF? i think its safe to say the jury hasnt even been selected for such a thing yet

[Punisher]

Damn I was making my list today and was going to post the same Exact Thread about an Hour..:(

[SureShot]

Very good, sure....HOF? i think its safe to say the jury hasnt even been selected for such a thing yet

I believe I did read the word potential somewhere. Is it a lock? No. However, when compared to other players drafted since 2006 I would say he has as much potential as anyone.

[montrose]

I heavily factor in where the player was taken and also strongly consider the value and longevity that pick (not always the specific player) brought:

1) Terrell Davis, '95, #196 (6th rd.) - League MVP, SB MVP, 2,000 yard season and franchise's all-time best RB selected in the 6th round.
2) Clinton Portis, '02, #51 (2nd rd.) - Offensive Rookie of the Year, two 1,500 yard seasons, traded for Champ Bailey and another 2nd rounder (Tatum Bell) that was eventually traded for Dre' Bly. Not bad for a 2nd round pick.
3) Al Wilson, '99, #31 (1st rd.) - A bottom of the 1st round pick who paid off as a leader and productive MLB for nearly a decade.
4) Trevor Pryce, '96, #28 (1st rd.) - Another late 1st rounder who provided consistent production for nearly a decade at both DT and DE.
5) Brandon Marshall, '06, #119 (4th rd.) - Already the team's best WR put up a 100 catch season and could find his way into the top 3 with time.
6) Elvis Dumervil, '06, #126 (4th rd.) - An emerging pass rusher found in the 4th round should provide value for years to come.
7) Mike Anderson, '00, #189 (6th rd.) - Offensive Rookie of the Year provided two 1,000 yard seasons and several years as a starting FB.
8) Ben Hamilton, '01, #113 (4th rd.) - Drafted to eventually play Center, has become a stalwart on the offensive line for years.
9) Dan Neil, '97, #67 (3rd rd.) - A productive starter for years at RG was a starter on the 2nd Super Bowl team and for several years thereafter.
10) Brian Griese, '98, #91 (3rd rd.) - Laugh if you must, but Denver found a 4-year starting QB that made one Pro Bowl in the 3rd round. He may not have been the long-term answer, but good the pick provided good value.

[SleepingTiger]

Damn I was making my list today and was going to post the same Exact Thread about an Hour..:(

I am sure your list will be better and more in depth than mine! I was only doing it to get away from all the negative talk in the forum.

[SleepingTiger]

I heavily factor in where the player was taken and also strongly consider the value and longevity that pick (not always the specific player) brought:

1) Terrell Davis, '95, #196 (6th rd.) - League MVP, SB MVP, 2,000 yard season and franchise's all-time best RB selected in the 6th round.
2) Clinton Portis, '02, #51 (2nd rd.) - Offensive Rookie of the Year, two 1,500 yard seasons, traded for Champ Bailey and another 2nd rounder (Tatum Bell) that was eventually traded for Dre' Bly. Not bad for a 2nd round pick.
3) Al Wilson, '99, #31 (1st rd.) - A bottom of the 1st round pick who paid off as a leader and productive MLB for nearly a decade.
4) Trevor Pryce, '96, #28 (1st rd.) - Another late 1st rounder who provided consistent production for nearly a decade at both DT and DE.
5) Brandon Marshall, '06, #119 (4th rd.) - Already the team's best WR put up a 100 catch season and could find his way into the top 3 with time.
6) Elvis Dumervil, '06, #126 (4th rd.) - An emerging pass rusher found in the 4th round should provide value for years to come.
7) Mike Anderson, '00, #189 (6th rd.) - Offensive Rookie of the Year provided two 1,000 yard seasons and several years as a starting FB.
8) Ben Hamilton, '01, #113 (4th rd.) - Drafted to eventually play Center, has become a stalwart on the offensive line for years.
9) Dan Neil, '97, #67 (3rd rd.) - A productive starter for years at RG was a starter on the 2nd Super Bowl team and for several years thereafter.
10) Brian Griese, '98, #91 (3rd rd.) - Laugh if you must, but Denver found a 4-year starting QB that made one Pro Bowl in the 3rd round. He may not have been the long-term answer, but good the pick provided good value.

Nice list. Agree with everything except for #10. Griese caused us to be in cap hell for several years and to this day we are still feeling the effects. His positives even out his negatives. John Mobley should definitely be in the list. He broke up the pass that lead us to win our first superbowl.

[SonOfLe-loLang]

Nice list. Agree with everything except for #10. Griese caused us to be in cap hell for several years and to this day we are still feeling the effects. His positives even out his negatives. John Mobley should definitely be in the list. He broke up the pass that lead us to win our first superbowl.

What does fiscal irrepsonsibility down the line have to do with anything?

[SonOfLe-loLang]

[QUOTE=SureShot7;1912700]I believe I did read the word potential somewhere. Is it a lock? No. However, when compared to other players drafted since 2006 I would say he has as much potential as anyone.[/QUOTE

I think its even too early to talk about potential

[Dos Rios]

I thought picking Jarvis Moss with the 21st pick was good value.

[montrose]

Nice list. Agree with everything except for #10. Griese caused us to be in cap hell for several years and to this day we are still feeling the effects. His positives even out his negatives. John Mobley should definitely be in the list. He broke up the pass that lead us to win our first superbowl.

Griese's cap problems stemmed from the extension he was given, it didn't have anything to do with his selection. I put Griese on the list simply because finding a guy to start at QB is difficult, let alone start for four years. To find a starting QB in the third round who puts up one Pro Bowl season is enough for me to call it a good pick. Had he been a 1st or 2nd, I'd go the other way.

I wanted to put Mobley on the list, but being the 15th overall selection, I'm not sure he overachieved but rather lived up to his potential whereas all of the other names on my list brought in a much higher value than they were anticipated to. Even Wilson and Pryce who were 1st rounders, overplayed their initial potential. If anyone had seen them as decade-long, multiple Pro-Bowl starters, they would've gone a lot higher than the end of the 1st round. I love Mobley, but I think it's fair to say he produced right in line with what you'd hope the #15 pick does.

[DBBBSBS]

I heavily factor in where the player was taken and also strongly consider the value and longevity that pick (not always the specific player) brought:

1) Terrell Davis, '95, #196 (6th rd.) - League MVP, SB MVP, 2,000 yard season and franchise's all-time best RB selected in the 6th round.
2) Clinton Portis, '02, #51 (2nd rd.) - Offensive Rookie of the Year, two 1,500 yard seasons, traded for Champ Bailey and another 2nd rounder (Tatum Bell) that was eventually traded for Dre' Bly. Not bad for a 2nd round pick.
3) Al Wilson, '99, #31 (1st rd.) - A bottom of the 1st round pick who paid off as a leader and productive MLB for nearly a decade.
4) Trevor Pryce, '96, #28 (1st rd.) - Another late 1st rounder who provided consistent production for nearly a decade at both DT and DE.
5) Brandon Marshall, '06, #119 (4th rd.) - Already the team's best WR put up a 100 catch season and could find his way into the top 3 with time.
6) Elvis Dumervil, '06, #126 (4th rd.) - An emerging pass rusher found in the 4th round should provide value for years to come.
7) Mike Anderson, '00, #189 (6th rd.) - Offensive Rookie of the Year provided two 1,000 yard seasons and several years as a starting FB.
8) Ben Hamilton, '01, #113 (4th rd.) - Drafted to eventually play Center, has become a stalwart on the offensive line for years.
9) Dan Neil, '97, #67 (3rd rd.) - A productive starter for years at RG was a starter on the 2nd Super Bowl team and for several years thereafter.
10) Brian Griese, '98, #91 (3rd rd.) - Laugh if you must, but Denver found a 4-year starting QB that made one Pro Bowl in the 3rd round. He may not have been the long-term answer, but good the pick provided good value.


awesome list, but i would like to see trevor at no 6 and brandon and elvis move one up

[BroncoBuff]

1) Terrell Davis
2) Brandon Marshall

All the rest pale shamefuly in comparison. Both were second day picks, and both went on/will go on to be the best RB/WR in the game. Nobody should doubt for one nano-second that Brandon Marshall will be the best WR on the planet ... probably sooner rather than later.

I suppose guys like Elvis Dumervil, Ben Hamilton and eventually Chris Kuper deserve some consideration - all were 2nd day picks. But they're not even in the same universe as TD and B-Marsh.

And I just can't call a 1st or 2nd round pick a "great pick." You SHOULD get impact players 3 out of 4 picks in the 1st and 2nd rounds, so it's hard to praise Wilson, Cutler, Pryce, Portis, Neil, Scheffler. Most of us couldda made those picks from the Internet.




And while we're lauding picks, I would like to (yet again) praise our own anthonypacino for shamelessly pimping a relatively unknown Safety/WR from Central Florida named Brandon Marshall ... actually starting threads about B-Marsh two months before the draft. For all of us who play like we know who's who on the second day, that was the GOLD STANDARD for talent evaluation and second-day pick clairvoyance ... not just that we'd draft him, but that he'd become a star. And not just that he mentioned him, but that he made Sigs and even started threads about him way before the draft ... :notworthy

[DarkHorse]

Marcus Nash? :strong:

Sucked for us but kicked ass in the Arena league Hilarious!

Hey you said "another team"

[Kaylore]

I agree with BB about AnthonyPacino. He's a great guy. He's pretty underrated around here. He's often right about many things too. He warned me before the Miami game in '05 that he had a bad feeling because his day was going poorly and we got killed down there.

[NW Bolt Fan]

5) Jay Cutler 1st 06 - Potential HOF and perennial Pro Bowler.

:rofl: Are you joking, or hoping?

[BroncoBuff]

On January 23, 2006, three months before the draft, anthonypacino started this thread (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=37141):

Brandon Marshall - WR Central Florida

This guy is a player, 6'5 230 I think he is being overlooked cause he played on defense last year. I have had my eye on him sice about mid season, he really stood up in the Hula Bowl the other day. I think he would be great in the 3rd if he falls that low.Marshall caught 11 TD's this year half of his QB's season totals, 74 receptions for 1195 yards, in the Hawaii Bowl against Nevada he had over 200 yards and 3 TD's. I really think this kid could be a steal.I hope someone in the front office might read this thread, I still want Marshall bad, unless by the grace of the football gods Santonio Holmes falls to us (thats just the homer in me) I think Marshall would fit into Denver's O better.

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/7342/apshanahanhj7.jpg
"We did read your thread, Anthony,
thank you very much for the tip, sir."

[SleepingTiger]

:rofl: Are you joking, or hoping?

Ofcourse I HOPE he lives up to his POTENTIAL.

[Punisher]

:rofl: Are you joking, or hoping?

LMAO don't make me make a Thread on the Chargers worst Draft Picks It will be a long list :thumbsup: :wiggle: !Booya!

[boltaneer]

LMAO don't make me make a Thread on the Chargers worst Draft Picks It will be a long list :thumbsup: :wiggle: !Booya!

Bethard made a ton of horrible picks. AJ Smith has been just the opposite.

[NW Bolt Fan]

LMAO don't make me make a Thread on the Chargers worst Draft Picks It will be a long list :thumbsup: :wiggle: !Booya!:kiss: Fair enough. Yes, we have the #1 bust of all time. And pretty much the whole Beathard era excluding a few lucky picks....

[Raiders Rock]

Maurice Clarett

[oubronco]

major props to anthonypacino

[Punisher]

Anyway I think the best pick Shanahan Made was T.D

[Arkie]

And I just can't call a 1st or 2nd round pick a "great pick." You SHOULD get impact players 3 out of 4 picks in the 1st and 2nd rounds, so it's hard to praise Wilson, Cutler, Pryce, Portis, Neil, Scheffler. Most of us couldda made those picks from the Internet.




Except for the fact that we all passed on Scheffler for all 7 rounds of the Orange Mane mock draft.

[Blueflame]

Maurice Clarett

A fan of a team that took Todd Marijuanovich has little room to talk.... :P

[Bob]

If we had drafted Rod Smith in the first round he would have been on this list, but as he was undrafted ... he cant be on this list -- how about I put him on a list of one, where he is not only the best undrafted Bronco, but the best undrafted player in the history on the NFL.

May Selvin Young acomplish half as much....

[NW Bolt Fan]

A fan of a team that took Todd Marijuanovich has little room to talk.... :P He could have been a great QB... :afro: If the rest of the league were smoking and about half as good as they actually were/are.

[iforgotmypassword]

I think DJ Williams could be a little higher... he will be after this season anyways.....

just the think all those good picks we've had recenlty are mostly by the man we just made assitant GM, good move.

[Vegas_Bronco]

2008 we are due for a future HOF'er.....WHO WILL IT BE?

[SureShot]

McFadden

[~Crash~]

A fan of a team that took Todd Marijuanovich has little room to talk.... :P

add in the fact that they took Todd Marijuanovich instead of a HOF QB and that is were Igo :nyahdevil :nyahdevil :nyahdevil

[Blueflame]

add in the fact that they took Todd Marijuanovich instead of a HOF QB and that is were Igo :nyahdevil :nyahdevil :nyahdevil

Well, they also spent a first-rounder on Sebastian Janikowski...

[Jason in LA]

It's interesting that the worst draft picks thread is way longer than the best draft picks thread. I guess people just love to complain. ;D

[Kaylore]

It's interesting that the worst draft picks thread is way longer than the best draft picks thread. I guess people just love to complain. ;D

There's more to talk about there. What could have been is more interesting when you made a bad choice and are wishing it was better rather than appreciating it wasn't worse.