Gov. Eliot Spitzer (D-NY) involved in Prostitution ring.

[24champ]

ALBANY - Gov. Eliot Spitzer has informed his most senior administration officials that he had been involved in a prostitution ring, an administration official said this morning.
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Governor Eliot Spitzer at a news conference in July 2007.

Mr. Spitzer, who was huddled with his top aides inside his Fifth Avenue apartment early this afternoon, had hours earlier abruptly canceled his scheduled public events for the day. He scheduled an announcement for 2:15 after inquiries from the Times.

Mr. Spitzer, a first term Democrat who pledged to bring ethics reform an end the often seamy ways of Albany, is married with three children.

Just last week, federal prosecutors arrested four people in connection with an expensive prostitution operation. Administration officials would not say that this was the ring with which the governor had become involved.

But a person with knowledge of the governor’s role said that the person believes the governor is one of the men identified as clients in court papers.

The governor’s travel records show that he was in Washington in mid-February. One of the clients described in court papers arranged to meet with a prostitute who was part of the ring, the Emperors Club VIP on the night of Feb. 13.

Mr. Spitzer appeared on a CNBC television show at 7 a.m. the next morning. Later in the morning, he testified before a Congressional committee.

An affidavit filed in federal court in Manhattan in connection with that case lists six conversations between the man, identified as Client 9, and a booking agent for the Emperors Club.

He had a difficult first year in office, rocked by a mix of scandal and legislative setbacks. In recent weeks, however, Mr. Spitzer seemed to have rebounded, with his Democratic party poised to perhaps gain control of the state Senate for the first time in four decades.

Mr. Spitzer gained national attention when he served as attorney general with his relentless pursuit of Wall Street wrongdoing. As attorney general, he also had prosecuted at least two prostitution rings as head of the state’s organized crime task force.

In one such case in 2004, Mr. Spitzer spoke with revulsion and anger after announcing the arrest of 16 people for operating a high-end prostitution ring out of Staten Island.

“”This was a sophisticated and lucrative operation with a multitiered management structure,” Mr. Spitzer said at the time. ”It was, however, nothing more than a prostitution ring.”

Albany for months been roiled by bitter fighting and accusations of dirty tricks. The Albany County district attorney is set to issue in the coming days the results of his investigation into Mr. Spitzer’s first scandal, his aides’ involvement in an effort to tarnish Majority Leader Joseph L. Bruno, the state’s top Republican.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/10/nyregion/10cnd-spitzer.html?hp

Cue the at least it wasn't a page or a bathroom incident comments.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Should we be surprised?

[DBruleU]

Should we be surprised?

No, but I guarantee that since he doesn't have a "R" next to his name, there won't be nearly as many posts in this thread.

Oh...and Spider will dig up the old "Republican family values thread.."

[TexanBob]

Well, he could have been like McGreevey (D-NJ) who named his gay lover the state's head of Homeland Security just to get him on the payroll...

Spitzer will say he was "just trying to get in touch" with one his core constituency groups...

[elsid13]

It's surprising in both parties, these guys can't figure how to keep their dicks in thier pants.

[ant1999e]

It's surprising in both parties, these guys can't figure how to keep their ***** in thier pants.

Just goes to show nobody is perfect. I'm sure there are people that post here that have the same problem.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Ha ha ha! :laugh:

Hearing a bunch of Republicans get indignant about corruption (especially a sex scandal) is like hearing a bunch of KKK members getting righteously indignant about the evils of bigotry.

That said, toss this Spitzer idiot out on his ass and prosecute him to the full extent of the law.

[Spider]

Nail Spitzer to the wall ......
BDRuleU you little freak I dont have to , we already know Republicans dont like sex with women , just kids and other men ....... What Spitzer did is wrong , he should face the music , but at least he was nailing a woman instead of somebodys little kid ........

[Spider]

Ha ha ha! :laugh:

Hearing a bunch of Republicans get indignant about corruption (especially a sex scandal) is like hearing a bunch of KKK members getting righteously indignant about the evils of bigotry.

That said, toss this Spitzer idiot out on his ass and prosecute him to the full extent of the law.

;D what this does is cancel out all the wrong republicans have done ...... But Yeah Spitzer isnt above the law , he danced the dance , now it is time to pay the band ......

[spdirty]

He is a scumbag for his position on illegals, this scandal makes him a hypocrit, and I heard on the radio that this emporer club charged $5,500 an hour for these hookers. I'm sorry, I don't want to tell people how to spend their money, but that is just plain stupid. Unless that girl just does crazy shlt that I've never heard of. I just can't imagine that type of money for 1 hour. I mean, maybe I could see it if your talking like 5 supermodels for a night, but 1 hoker for 1 hour? I just don't get it.

[Spider]

He is a scumbag for his position on illegals, this scandal makes him a hypocrit, and I heard on the radio that this emporer club charged $5,500 an hour for these hookers. I'm sorry, I don't want to tell people how to spend their money, but that is just plain stupid. Unless that girl just does crazy shlt that I've never heard of. I just can't imagine that type of money for 1 hour. I mean, maybe I could see it if your talking like 5 supermodels for a night, but 1 hoker for 1 hour? I just don't get it.

Be a better story if Hillary was involved ;D

[spdirty]

Be a better story if Hillary was involved ;D

Dude, back in my former life, when Clinton was in office and being a bad influence on me, I got 2 hot hot hot hot hot hot hot broads for an hour for $40. Thats why I just don't get it. When I was in Vegas this juicer broad offered me $250 for 2 hours and I told her to go to hell and that that was a ripoff.

This guy is an idiot. But then again, thats...New York.

[spdirty]

And another thing. Idiot got caught. So he gets what he deserves. I would maybe understand if you had a Lewinsky situation and the woman fell in love, and boiled your rabbit when you tried to call it off, but this is a hooker ring, high priced I might add, so they're discreet.

Figgin moron. Then again he is a Democrat, so this is probably a resume enhancement. Republicans get kicked out when they pull shlt like this, but he'll probably get propped up. Just like ole William Jefferson.

[Spider]

Dude, back in my former life, when Clinton was in office and being a bad influence on me, I got 2 hot hot hot hot hot hot hot broads for an hour for $40. Thats why I just don't get it. When I was in Vegas this juicer broad offered me $250 for 2 hours and I told her to go to hell and that that was a ripoff.

This guy is an idiot. But then again, thats...New York.

you got one on me ... i never been with a hooker ...... though I have been with a few sluts ......not sure if the difference thugh

[TexanBob]

When I was in Vegas this juicer broad offered me $250 for 2 hours

So she thought you were selling your body for money?? Ha!

Hope you kept your receipts! ROFL!

[TexanBob]

Then again he is a Democrat, so this is probably a resume enhancement.

As the OM denizens have explained it to me, when Republicans are involved in scandal, that's big news because Republicans are "family values" hypocrites. When Democrats are involved in scandal, it is not news.

I presume that's because Democrats have no morals or ethics, so they can't be called hypocrites when they break them since they never had them to begin with. That explains why a former Klansman like Robert Byrd (D-WV) or a man who abandons a woman to drown in a sinking car like Ted Kennedy (D-MA) can keep getting elected year after year because, as Democrats, there are no ethics or morals to shame them out of office.

If Spitzer has done anything wrong here (at least through the prism of Democrat conduct), it was to violate Clinton's #1 rule: "Deny, deny, deny."
But Spitzer hasn't stepped down yet. Maybe he can do like the Clintons did and trash the prosecutor with a flurry of personal attacks so that they look like the victims rather than the perps.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

As the OM denizens have explained it to me, when Republicans are involved in scandal, that's big news because Republicans are "family values" hypocrites. When Democrats are involved in scandal, it is not news.

I presume that's because Democrats have no morals or ethics, so they can't be called hypocrites when they break them since they never had them to begin with. That explains why a former Klansman like Robert Byrd (D-WV) or a man who abandons a woman to drown in a sinking car like Ted Kennedy (D-MA) can keep getting elected year after year because, as Democrats, there are no ethics or morals to shame them out of office.

If Spitzer has done anything wrong here (at least through the prism of Democrat conduct), it was to violate Clinton's #1 rule: "Deny, deny, deny."
But Spitzer hasn't stepped down yet. Maybe he can do like the Clintons did and trash the prosecutor with a flurry of personal attacks so that they look like the victims rather than the perps.Damn, being a Texan right winger is tough duty now-a days, eh? Actually, the way it was explained to you was if any of them are committing sexual crimes they all need to be held responsible regardless of party but I'm pretty sure the part about the political party scorecard when it comes to sexual perverts isn't something you or any other Republicans would want to discuss further.

[Spider]

As the OM denizens have explained it to me, when Republicans are involved in scandal, that's big news because Republicans are "family values" hypocrites. When Democrats are involved in scandal, it is not news.

I presume that's because Democrats have no morals or ethics, so they can't be called hypocrites when they break them since they never had them to begin with. That explains why a former Klansman like Robert Byrd (D-WV) or a man who abandons a woman to drown in a sinking car like Ted Kennedy (D-MA) can keep getting elected year after year because, as Democrats, there are no ethics or morals to shame them out of office.

If Spitzer has done anything wrong here (at least through the prism of Democrat conduct), it was to violate Clinton's #1 rule: "Deny, deny, deny."
But Spitzer hasn't stepped down yet. Maybe he can do like the Clintons did and trash the prosecutor with a flurry of personal attacks so that they look like the victims rather than the perps.

do you have a mental block when it comes to reading ? Seriously can you read ?
so far the Dems that have posted here havent cut Spitzer any slack .....

[epicSocialism4tw]

As the OM denizens have explained it to me, when Republicans are involved in scandal, that's big news because Republicans are "family values" hypocrites. When Democrats are involved in scandal, it is not news.

I presume that's because Democrats have no morals or ethics, so they can't be called hypocrites when they break them since they never had them to begin with. That explains why a former Klansman like Robert Byrd (D-WV) or a man who abandons a woman to drown in a sinking car like Ted Kennedy (D-MA) can keep getting elected year after year because, as Democrats, there are no ethics or morals to shame them out of office.

If Spitzer has done anything wrong here (at least through the prism of Democrat conduct), it was to violate Clinton's #1 rule: "Deny, deny, deny."
But Spitzer hasn't stepped down yet. Maybe he can do like the Clintons did and trash the prosecutor with a flurry of personal attacks so that they look like the victims rather than the perps.


Hilarious!

[Spider]

Hilarious!

when it comes to ass kissing , you àre pretty good

[Bronco Jamus]

Spitzer has ruined many innocent lives being over zealous as the New York Attorney General. I hope he gets what he deserves.

[MLB]

you got one on me ... i never been with a hooker ...... though I have been with a few sluts ......not sure if the difference thugh

A hooker will cost you about $20. A slut will cost you at the least a 12 pack of Schlitz.

[Spider]

A hooker will cost you about $20. A slut will cost you at the least a 12 pack of Schlitz.

hooker would have been cheaper ;D

[epicSocialism4tw]

when it comes to ass kissing , you àre pretty good

Aww...did that guy huwt wittwe Spidey-widey's feewings?

[Hogan11]

You all can say what you will about the guy but the fact remains that he gave us state workers the best contract we've had in 20+ years....especially since that asshole Pataki has been lowballing us and contracting out our jobs for the past few years.

Given that fact, I don't care if the guy screws goats in his spare time.

[Dudeskey]

http://offendall.com/shirts/whores%20not%20wars.jpg;D

[spdirty]

you got one on me ... i never been with a hooker ...... though I have been with a few sluts ......not sure if the difference thugh

a hooker is honest.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Damn, being a Texan right winger is tough duty now-a days, eh? Actually, the way it was explained to you was if any of them are committing sexual crimes they all need to be held responsible regardless of party but I'm pretty sure the part about the political party scorecard when it comes to sexual perverts isn't something you or any other Republicans would want to discuss further.

:yep:

[MLB]

He should have gone to the Moonlight Bunny Ranch.

[Maximus]

This is terrible for NYS... Just terrible... From the working mans standpoint everyone is getting screwed (no pun intended) How do we know that his wife can perform? I think he should put the lie out there that his wife was on his team in this because of dysfunctional sex! I met David Patterson .... He's ok but... the point is... Who cares if a person gets head in the Whitehouse or buys sex from a prostitute... as long as the government is working WGAFF!

[epicSocialism4tw]

This is terrible for NYS... Just terrible... From the working mans standpoint everyone is getting screwed (no pun intended) How do we know that his wife can perform? I think he should put the lie out there that his wife was on his team in this because of dysfunctional sex! I met David Patterson .... He's ok but... the point is... Who cares if a person gets head in the Whitehouse or buys sex from a prostitute... as long as the government is working WGAFF!


I'll tell you who cares...

Anyone who can gain power by leveraging the system against that person. You slip up and break a law (perjury, etc), and its open season. That is such a competitive environment that you absolutely cannot put yourself at risk.

There is a reason that those people are held to a high standard, because just a little mistake (Im sure his wife and kids dont think that its so little, but I digress) can have a ripple effect that brings the problem right to the doorsteps of his interested parties (special interests, party allies, devoted constituents, etc.).

Its how politics work.

[cutthemdown]

I for one could care less. Prostitution should just be legal.

[cutthemdown]

I think it's pretty shortsighted to try and think you decide morality, sexual orientation, etc based on what political party you belong to. If you are gay and a repub you might hide it more, but I doubt anyone party has more homosexuals then another. Both parties have freaks and perverts. I agree last 2-4 yrs seems like mostly republicans but I doubt that is scientific. It's funny and I don't blame democrats from using it to make fun. I just don't think human nature and its frailties is relegated to anyone political affiliation.

[Maximus]

I'll tell you who cares...

Anyone who can gain power by leveraging the system against that person. You slip up and break a law (perjury, etc), and its open season. That is such a competitive environment that you absolutely cannot put yourself at risk.

There is a reason that those people are held to a high standard, because just a little mistake (Im sure his wife and kids dont think that its so little, but I digress) can have a ripple effect that brings the problem right to the doorsteps of his interested parties (special interests, party allies, devoted constituents, etc.).

Its how politics work.



I agree, we live in a hypocrisy not a democracy. If prostitution were legal or if Americans were not so uptight about sex nobody would be able to leverage anything against him. I know those are 2 big if's however, we all know there is a high percentage of "sexual deviance" in washington... almost everyone in politics is having sex except for Hillary Clinton and the GOP! :D

[epicSocialism4tw]

I agree, we live in a hypocrisy not a democracy. If prostitution were legal or if Americans were not so uptight about sex nobody would be able to leverage anything against him. I know those are 2 big if's however, we all know there is a high percentage of "sexual deviance" in washington... almost everyone in politics is having sex except for Hillary Clinton and the GOP! :D

I dont know if "hypocrisy" would describe the situation adequately for me.

I think that its more of a case where some really questionable behavior leaves a person open to judgment. Then, of course, you wonder about their scruples for such an important lynchpin-type job if they cant keep their own house in order or their libido under some type of control.

[Spider]

I think it's pretty shortsighted to try and think you decide morality, sexual orientation, etc based on what political party you belong to. If you are gay and a repub you might hide it more, but I doubt anyone party has more homosexuals then another. Both parties have freaks and perverts. I agree last 2-4 yrs seems like mostly republicans but I doubt that is scientific. It's funny and I don't blame democrats from using it to make fun. I just don't think human nature and its frailties is relegated to anyone political affiliation.I could be more forgiving of Spitzer , if he didnt wreck peoples lives over prostitution ......Of he wouldnt went after em so hard , then you could make an argument for the guy .... what he did smacks of double standards ...... He needs to be made an example of

[Maximus]

I dont know if "hypocrisy" would describe the situation adequately for me.

I think that its more of a case where some really questionable behavior leaves a person open to judgment. Then, of course, you wonder about their scruples for such an important lynchpin-type job if they cant keep their own house in order or their libido under some type of control.

Questionable behavior is a very gray area where sex is concerned... This is a tough subject to cover because of personal preferences. If he drives through the backdoor some may deem that questionable while some see oral sex as questionable... Maybe spitzer liked to be dominated... does that affect his political decisions? I don't think so. I think it reflects on his personal sexual preferences. As long as he's not a pedophile or a rapist it shouldn't be our business. The problem in this case is the fact that prostitution is illegal in the states that he received his services in. If he were in Nevada ( or where the bunny ranch is located ) nothing would be said!

[epicSocialism4tw]

Questionable behavior is a very gray area where sex is concerned... This is a tough subject to cover because of personal preferences. If he drives through the backdoor some may deem that questionable while some see oral sex as questionable... Maybe spitzer liked to be dominated... does that affect his political decisions? I don't think so. I think it reflects on his personal sexual preferences. As long as he's not a pedophile or a rapist it shouldn't be our business. The problem in this case is the fact that prostitution is illegal in the states that he received his services in. If he were in Nevada ( or where the bunny ranch is located ) nothing would be said!

Well, that's where you and I differ. I would see his lack of discretion as evidence of his inability to secure his relationship with his wife, and I would also see it as putting the futures of his children somewhat into jeopardy because of the impact that the break up of a family has on children.

This is what people mean when they talk about the break-up of the family.

I see the family as the most important aspect of one's daily living commitments. In my opinion, one's house is to be in order first, and if a man cant keep his own house in order, how can we trust him to keep ours in order?

[cutthemdown]

I could be more forgiving of Spitzer , if he didnt wreck peoples lives over prostitution ......Of he wouldnt went after em so hard , then you could make an argument for the guy .... what he did smacks of double standards ...... He needs to be made an example of

I didn't realize he was a crusader of morality. Yes if you speak out on morality all the time then screw a hooker that makes you unfit for office. Dem or Repub we need people who are what they say they are or how we can we follow them.

[Maximus]

Well, that's where you and I differ. I would see his lack of discretion as evidence of his inability to secure his relationship with his wife, and I would also see it as putting the futures of his children somewhat into jeopardy because of the impact that the break up of a family has on children.

This is what people mean when they talk about the break-up of the family.

I see the family as the most important aspect of one's daily living commitments. In my opinion, one's house is to be in order first, and if a man cant keep his own house in order, how can we trust him to keep ours in order?

Not to trivialize what you're saying but, He was being discrete. The government was tapping his phone line. Spitzer wasn't out there making it public and he certainly wasn't taking a crap where he ate. The man was in Washington not NY State. Don't get me wrong I don't think he should have cheated on his wife. It's just a huge stretch to say that cheating is an accurate barometer of overall decision making.

If you took a poll of men and asked them if they would have sex with another woman if they knew that they would not be caught, contract a disease or get the woman pregnant, most would jump at the chance without a second thought. Spitzer thought he wouldn't get caught.

The sex scandal thing is way overrated. Spitzer should be crucified for his stupid idea of trying to give out drivers licenses to illegal immigrants

[epicSocialism4tw]

Not to trivialize what you're saying but, He was being discrete. The government was tapping his phone line. Spitzer wasn't out there making it public and he certainly wasn't taking a crap where he ate. The man was in Washington not NY State. Don't get me wrong I don't think he should have cheated on his wife. It's just a huge stretch to say that cheating is an accurate barometer of overall decision making.

If you took a poll of men and asked them if they would have sex with another woman if they knew that they would not be caught, contract a disease or get the woman pregnant, most would jump at the chance without a second thought. Spitzer thought he wouldn't get caught.

The sex scandal thing is way overrated. Spitzer should be crucified for his stupid idea of trying to give out drivers licenses to illegal immigrants

He knew full well what the consequences would be when he got caught. I really have no pity for the guy. Nor do I think that its okay for someone who lives their life in service of the community ( ha ! ) to partake in illegal activity, which prostitution certainly is at this point.

[Maximus]

I didn't realize he was a crusader of morality. Yes if you speak out on morality all the time then screw a hooker that makes you unfit for office. Dem or Repub we need people who are what they say they are or how we can we follow them.

Yup, he's one of those do as I say; not as I do politicians. He and his partner in the senate are of the same ilk except, Spitzer actually tried to do something for the workers in NYS... Clinton was too busy sucking up to the senate arms Comm to get anything done for the workers of NYS.

[24champ]

http://images.redstate.com/files/spitzermotivator.jpg

[Maximus]

He knew full well what the consequences would be when he got caught. I really have no pity for the guy. Nor do I think that its okay for someone who lives their life in service of the community ( ha ! ) to partake in illegal activity, which prostitution certainly is at this point.

True!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Well, that's where you and I differ. I would see his lack of discretion as evidence of his inability to secure his relationship with his wife, and I would also see it as putting the futures of his children somewhat into jeopardy because of the impact that the break up of a family has on children.

This is what people mean when they talk about the break-up of the family.

I see the family as the most important aspect of one's daily living commitments. In my opinion, one's house is to be in order first, and if a man cant keep his own house in order, how can we trust him to keep ours in order?

You can make whatever judgments you like re: his personal morality, but at the end of the day, his sex life has no direct bearing on how well he performs the functions of a public office.

Like I said before, when I board a commercial jet, I don't want to know who the pilot is diddling - I just want to know if he can fly the plane.

[alkemical]

I agree, we live in a hypocrisy not a democracy. If prostitution were legal or if Americans were not so uptight about sex nobody would be able to leverage anything against him. I know those are 2 big if's however, we all know there is a high percentage of "sexual deviance" in washington... almost everyone in politics is having sex except for Hillary Clinton and the GOP! :D



Exactly! We can show mutilated bodies, murder, etc on TV - but people freak out if there's a boob on TV. WTF is wrong with people.

[Hogan11]

Spitzer actually tried to do something for the workers in NYS... Clinton was too busy sucking up to the senate arms Comm to get anything done for the workers of NYS.

After being abused by both the Cuomo & Pataki Administrations privatization programs for years, I'm willing to forgive the guy of almost anything considering what he's done for us thus far. It'll be tragic for the workers of NYS if this succeeds in bringing him down.

[Spider]

After being abused by both the Cuomo & Pataki Administrations privatization programs for years, I'm willing to forgive the guy of almost anything considering what he's done for us thus far. It'll be tragic for the workers of NYS if this succeeds in bringing him down.

you know what ? this is an excellent post ........it is up to New Yorkers to pass judgement , not some redneck in Wyoming completey ignorant of the situation ..... I figure Spitzer must have pissed off alot of people , the way they are carring on

[ElwayMD]

Maybe one day politicians will learn that they are in fact not above the law and will get caught doing illegal activities. I feel for his family most of all. Now they get to be dragged through the mud because he couldn't keep his dong in his pants.

I guess I for one like to see our elected officials actually behave like the upstanding citizens they portray themselves to be. But this won't change until we find a way to turn politics back into a selfless job and not a selfish one.

[DBruleU]

He is a scumbag for his position on illegals, this scandal makes him a hypocrit, and I heard on the radio that this emporer club charged $5,500 an hour for these hookers. I'm sorry, I don't want to tell people how to spend their money, but that is just plain stupid. Unless that girl just does crazy shlt that I've never heard of. I just can't imagine that type of money for 1 hour. I mean, maybe I could see it if your talking like 5 supermodels for a night, but 1 hoker for 1 hour? I just don't get it.

It is absurd, but maybe this will help answer your question:

http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/0,4644,3524,00.html

[Spider]

Maybe one day politicians will learn that they are in fact not above the law and will get caught doing illegal activities. I feel for his family most of all. Now they get to be dragged through the mud because he couldn't keep his dong in his pants.

I guess I for one like to see our elected officials actually behave like the upstanding citizens they portray themselves to be. But this won't change until we find a way to turn politics back into a selfless job and not a selfish one.

This I agree with , Wyomings very own Barbra Cubin is a perfect example ... before 2006 , her husband got really sick ,She knew she wouldnt be able to fullfill her obligations to Wyoming in Washington DC , but she still ran anyway to keep anyone else from getting her seat ....... Worthless Bitch

[alkemical]

Maybe one day politicians will learn that they are in fact not above the law and will get caught doing illegal activities. I feel for his family most of all. Now they get to be dragged through the mud because he couldn't keep his dong in his pants.

I guess I for one like to see our elected officials actually behave like the upstanding citizens they portray themselves to be. But this won't change until we find a way to turn politics back into a selfless job and not a selfish one.


Maybe one day voters will have enough and do soemthing about it as well.

[Spider]

Maybe one day voters will have enough and do soemthing about it as well.

LOL ...that would be nice , but people are stupid .....

[alkemical]

LOL ...that would be nice , but people are stupid .....

The optimist in me wants to disagree, but my other self agrees.

[Spider]

The optimist in me wants to disagree, but my other self agrees.
;D

[Beantown Bronco]

"Sometimes you gotta have a little dirt on you for anybody to trust you."

[Rohirrim]

Given the personality of Spitzer, I wouldn't be surprised if he takes himself out before this is all over.

[Breaker]

Politicians have been ****ing every man woman and child in this country for years so stories like these should come as no surprise to any of us.

[Spider]

Politicians have been ****ing every man woman and child in this country for years so stories like these should come as no surprise to any of us.
and yet you continue on living here .... must like it

[alkemical]

I'm telling you - i looked up "conspiracy of silence" i think the name of it is - it's about 50min - about the boystown home and the sex abuse scandle that went on - man it went to DC.

[Spider]

I guess you absolutely love it ... you have six kids, three by your wife and three by LABF?

what does it have to do with your statement of Politicains ****ing everyone ? LABF isnt a politician , he is a Vet of the armed services ........ so now we know what you think of the troops ... ****ing Idiot

[Spider]

ROFL! I caught that before Breaker could delete it ........ Sorry son you cant hide your stupidity

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

........ Sorry son you cant hide your stupidity

:~ohyah!:

You can just see him straining to string semi-coherent English sentences like the ones in his sig together.

It's like he was thinking "well, I just successfully completed that 'Hooked on Phonics' course - I think it's time to show everybody what I learned." :D

[ElwayMD]

:~ohyah!:

You can just see him straining to string semi-coherent English sentences like the ones in his sig together.

It's like he was thinking "well, I just successfully completed that 'Hooked on Phonics' course - I think it's time to show everybody what I learned." :D

His sig is a play off of Billy Madison. So blame Adam Sandler or whatever mental midget wrote that movie for his sig.

[elsid13]

Spitzer may have spent big on call girls By MICHAEL GORMLEY, Associated Press Writer
12 minutes ago
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/spitzer_prostitution


With pressure mounting on Gov. Eliot Spitzer to resign over a call-girl scandal, investigators said Tuesday he was clearly a repeat customer who spent tens of thousands of dollars — perhaps as much as $80,000 — with the high-priced prostitution service over an extended period of time.

Spitzer and his family, meanwhile, remained secluded in their Fifth Avenue apartment, while Republicans began talking impeachment, and few if any fellow Democrats came forward to defend him. A death watch of sorts began at the state Capitol, where whispers of "What have you heard?" echoed through nearly every hallway of the ornate, 109-year-old building.

On Monday, when the scandal broke, prosecutors said in court papers that Spitzer had been caught on a wiretap spending $4,300 with the Emperors Club VIP call-girl service, with some of the money going toward a night with a prostitute named Kristen, and the rest to be used as credit toward future trysts. The papers also suggested that Spitzer had done this before.

Speaking on condition of anonymity, a law enforcement official said Tuesday that Spitzer, in fact, had spent tens of thousands of dollars with the Emperors Club. Another official said the amount could be as high as $80,000. But it was not clear over what period of time that was spent.

Still another law enforcement official said investigators found that during the tryst with Kristen on the night before Valentine's Day, Spitzer used two rooms at the Mayflower Hotel in Washington — one for himself, the other for the prostitute. Sometime around 10 p.m., Spitzer sneaked away from his security detail and made his way to the room where she was waiting, the official said. The three officials spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the case.

In the court papers, an Emperors Club employee was quoted as telling Kristen that Client 9 — Spitzer, according to investigators — "would ask you to do things that ... you might not think were safe," and Kristen responded by saying: "I have a way of dealing with that. ... I'd be, like, listen, dude, you really want the sex?"

A law enforcement official said Tuesday the discussion had to do with Spitzer's preference not to wear a condom and the call-girl's insistence that he use one.

Spitzer's vast personal wealth would have made it easy for him to spend thousands of dollars on prostitutes. The scion of a wealthy Manhattan real estate developer, Spitzer reported $1.9 million in income to the IRS in 2006.

Meanwhile, Albany insiders on Tuesday said the governor was still trying to decide how to proceed. Options included quitting immediately, or waiting to use resignation as a bargaining chip with federal prosecutors to avoid indictment.

Democrats privately floated another option, telling The Associated Press that Spitzer was considering what was almost unthinkable immediately after Monday's bombshell apology: hanging on.

"If the public is fine, he'll stay," said a Democrat who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject.

Still, Spitzer's many enemies from Albany and Wall Street were emboldened, and some of his friends went from shock to outrage.

"Particularly because of the reform platform on which he was elected governor, his ability to govern the state of New York and execute his duties as governor have been irreparably damaged," said Citizens Union, a good-government group that supported the crusading attorney general for governor in 2006 and provided critical support in his effort to reform Albany. "It is our strong belief that it is now impossible for him to fulfill his responsibilities as governor. Accordingly, Citizens Union urges him to resign as governor."

The case against Spitzer, a 48-year-old married man with three teenage daughters, started when banks noticed frequent cash transfers from several accounts and filed suspicious-activity reports with the Internal Revenue Service, a law enforcement official told the AP. The accounts were traced back to Spitzer, prompting public corruption investigators to open an inquiry.

The governor has not been charged, and prosecutors would not comment on the case. Michele Hirshman, Spitzer's former deputy attorney general and now a member of the high-powered New York law firm of Paul, Weiss, Rifkind Wharton & Garrison, has been retained to represent the governor.

In Albany, Democratic Lt. Gov. David Paterson, who would become governor if Spitzer resigned, was talking to legislative leaders about a possible transition.

Reporters, government workers and the public milled around the state Capitol on Tuesday, waiting for any developments. News vans lined up around the building, and camera operators sat next to their tripods on the front lawn waiting for something to happen.

Assembly Republican leader James Tedisco warned that if Spitzer did not resign within 48 hours, he would call for impeachment. But any impeachment would face a difficult road in the Democrat-controlled Assembly, where articles impeachment would require a majority vote to go to a trial. A trial would be decided by a combined vote of the full Senate, which has a slim GOP majority, and the Court of Appeals.

Tedisco was an early target of Spitzer's abrasive and uncompromising style in Albany. In a private call, an angry Spitzer once described himself to Tedisco as a "steamroller" — he attached a profanity for emphasis — and warned: "I'll roll over you and anybody else."

Privately, several Democrats in the Legislature and in the administration said resignation appeared inevitable. "He's weighing the rest of his life," one Democratic official said sadly.

Late Tuesday, freshman Rep. Kirsten Gillibrand became the first Democratic member of New York's congressional delegation to mention resignation. "This is very grave and sad news," she said. "If these serious allegations are true, the governor will have no choice but to resign."

But more than a day after the scandal broke, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton and other senior Democrats in the delegation had yet to call on Spitzer to quit.

On Wall Street, where Spitzer built his reputation as a crusader against shady practices and overly generous compensation, cheers and laughter erupted Monday from the trading floor when news broke of his potential ruin.

Many in the financial industry had long complained that the man known as "Mr. Clean" and the "Sheriff of Wall Street" was a sanctimonious bully who was just trying to advance his political career. Many Wall Streeters were delighted to see him get his comeuppance.

"The irony and the hypocrisy is almost too good to be true," said Bryn Dolan, a fundraiser who works with many Wall Street employees. "If he had any shame, he would've already resigned."
___

AP writers Valerie Bauman and Michael Virtanen in Albany, and Vinnee Tong in New York contributed to this report.

[epicSocialism4tw]

This dude spent 80k on prostitutes?

Top that, P Diddy!

[Dudeskey]

This dude spent 80k on prostitutes?

Top that, P Diddy!

Damn, what a knucklehead. He could've caught a plane to Nevada & visited the Moonlight Bunny ranch & did it legally. Moron

[TailgateNut]

Damn, what a knucklehead. He could've caught a plane to Nevada & visited the Moonlight Bunny ranch & did it legally. Moron


Yeah, but those ho's are like a toll booths. Things drive in and out all day!

[elsid13]

Has anyone seen the whore yet? I want to see what worth 5K a night.

[alkemical]

Osi from the giants didn't have to spend that much.

[BarefootKicker]

He's going to resign today, to be effective Monday. Does that mean Hillary loses a Superdelegate?

[Old Dude]

Let's see. If it was $2,000 per hour, that would be about $33.33 a minute, or roughly 55 cents a second.

At that rate, I think I could afford about 25 seconds, so that would not leave a lot of time for small talk.

[Breaker]

You can make whatever judgments you like re: his personal morality, but at the end of the day, his sex life has no direct bearing on how well he performs the functions of a public office.

Like I said before, when I board a commercial jet, I don't want to know who the pilot is diddling - I just want to know if he can fly the plane.

Ok but how can you know for a fact that a public official is not giving preferential treatment to someone he is screwing. What if an elected official gets the zoning of a particular land plot changed so that his mistress can build a specific business within an area, giving her an unfair market advantage. A congressman protects the owner of a whore house from a law suit or even arrest because he or she is a client. An elected official enacts eminent domain proceedings on land like Mecks then sells it to a third party, who he just happens to be screwing or fixes the $600 in parking fines for the teenage son of a woman he is screwing. All sorts of abuses can occur from public officials engaging in behavior like that, a pilot cant do any of those things, he just flies a plane. Although you might be pissed if the pilot is having sex with the copilot and almost crashes the plane, then I guess the "who he is diddling " comes into play.

[Rohirrim]

Let's see. If it was $2,000 per hour, that would be about $33.33 a minute, or roughly 55 cents a second.

At that rate, I think I could afford about 25 seconds, so that would not leave a lot of time for small talk.

Do you really need more time than that? Ha!

[Spider]

Let's see. If it was $2,000 per hour, that would be about $33.33 a minute, or roughly 55 cents a second.

At that rate, I think I could afford about 25 seconds, so that would not leave a lot of time for small talk.

is that cheaper then being married ?

[Old Dude]

Do you really need more time than that? Ha!

It takes me at least 25 seconds just to get my shoes off.

[Old Dude]

is that cheaper then being married ?

I haven't actually sat down and done the calculations, but I'm pretty sure my marriage hasn't cost me $2,000 an hour.

My second marriage, that is.

The first one came pretty close to that.

[Spider]

I haven't actually sat down and done the calculations, but I'm pretty sure my marriage hasn't cost me $2,000 an hour.

My second marriage, that is.

The first one came pretty close to that.

;D

[ElwayMD]

I think i'll tell my wife tonight that she's cheaper than a high-class hooker and see how well that goes over.

[Rohirrim]

It takes me at least 25 seconds just to get my shoes off.

Hilarious! Hell, with 25 seconds, I think you're supposed to leave your shoes on. My question is, will Viagra even kick in that fast?

[Rohirrim]

I think i'll tell my wife tonight that she's cheaper than a high-class hooker and see how well that goes over.

You don't want to start her thinking along those lines. Trust me.

[c_lazy_r]

A hooker will cost you about $20. A slut will cost you at the least a 12 pack of Schlitz.

If a hooker only charges $20, it going to cost you alot more in medical treatments over the years...

[ElwayMD]

You don't want to start her thinking along those lines. Trust me.

I am hoping she might punch me in the face and I can call off work for the rest of the week...then again I would be home with a pissed off wife...hmmm decisions, decisions, decisions.

[Rohirrim]

I am hoping she might punch me in the face and I can call off work for the rest of the week...then again I would be home with a pissed off wife...hmmm decisions, decisions, decisions.

No. She'll start thinking, "Well, how much would he pay?"

[Old Dude]

Hilarious! Hell, with 25 seconds, I think you're supposed to leave your shoes on. My question is, will Viagra even kick in that fast?

Well, if you were someone who really needed that, you'd have to take it ahead of time.

The way I calculate it ...

Say hello at door and close it ... 3 seconds ... $1.65
Pat down for surveillance wire ... 6 seconds... 3.30
Kick off slippers ...................... 2 seconds... 1.10
Rip off blouse ........................ 4 seconds... 2.20
Unhook Bra ............................ 6 minutes.. 199.98
Open robe............................... 1 second.. .55
Flip up skirt .............................2 seconds.. 1.10
Undies ....................................4 seconds.. 2.20
Foreplay .................................6 seconds.. 3.30
Aim ....................................... 2 seconds.. 1.10
Do it......................................20 seconds.. 11.00
Say thanks, gather up clothes....10 seconds.. 5.50
Open door............................... 2 seconds.. 1.10
Shove her out to the hall .......... 4 seconds ... 2.20

Total (not including tips or tax)..7 minutes, 6 seconds..... $227.48

[Spider]

20 seconds ? are you running a marathon ? ;D

[Old Dude]

Well, no, but you wouldn't want to seem like a complete pig.

[c_lazy_r]

Well, if you were someone who really needed that, you'd have to take it ahead of time.

The way I calculate it ...

Say hello at door and close it ... 3 seconds ... $1.65
Pat down for surveillance wire ... 6 seconds... 3.30
Kick off slippers ...................... 2 seconds... 1.10
Rip off blouse ........................ 4 seconds... 2.20
Unhook Bra ............................ 6 minutes.. 199.98
Open robe............................... 1 second.. .55
Flip up skirt .............................2 seconds.. 1.10
Undies ....................................4 seconds.. 2.20
Foreplay .................................6 seconds.. 3.30
Aim ....................................... 2 seconds.. 1.10
Do it......................................20 seconds.. 11.00
Say thanks, gather up clothes....10 seconds.. 5.50
Open door............................... 2 seconds.. 1.10
Shove her out to the hall .......... 4 seconds ... 2.20

LOL
Ain't that the truth. Haven't those bra makers ever heard of velcro?

[Spider]

Well, no, but you wouldn't want to seem like a complete pig.

for that kind of coin , I should be able to fart , blame on the dog and she should believe it

[Traveler]

Spitzer's other woman...
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii273/Papi728/ashley031208.jpg

[elsid13]

Spitzer's other woman...
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii273/Papi728/ashley031208.jpg

Ok that good, but is it really worth 5K???

[24champ]

Ok that good, but is it really worth 5K???

Nope, only worth 5 k when you can't get that kinda action when your as ugly as Spitzer.

I mean there is nothing special about that 5k prostitute, there are a lot of good looking girls to be had if you look in the right places. Like for me, I don't have to look very far...ah the college life.:thumbs:

[Bronco Jamus]

The more I hear about this, the worse I feel for his wife. He's trash and he always has been. A liar and a cheat that ruined many lives. I hope he goes to jail for a long time.

[Spider]

The more I hear about this, the worse I feel for his wife. He's trash and he always has been. A liar and a cheat that ruined many lives. I hope he goes to jail for a long time.
why feel sorry for her right now ? we dont know what their bedroom life , or married life is about right now ... hell maybe she was banging the gardener , or playing hide the salami with the mail man ..... Or temptress of the forest and smoky bear with the body guard , or munching carpet with Hillary Clinton ...... Romancing the sheets with bloomberg , Knocking boots with Joey Buttafuco .....we just dont know yet

[TexanBob]

You may wonder how a girl like that is able to make 5k for one night of sex. This girl has a particular talent that, while in the act of intercourse, she can scream:

"Yeah, big boy! RAISE my taxes! RAISE my taxes! Higher, baby, higher!"

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Spitzer's Shame is Wall Street's Gain
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Tell me again: Why should we get all worked up over the revelation that the New York governor paid for sex? Will it bring back to life the eight U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq that same day in a war that makes no sense and has cost this nation trillions in future debt? Will it save those millions of homes that hardworking folks all over the country are losing because of financial industry shenanigans that Eliot Spitzer, as much as anyone, attempted to halt? Perhaps it provides some insight into why oil has risen to $108 a barrel, benefiting most of all the oil sheiks whom our taxpayer-supported military has kept in power?


Sure, the guy, by his own admission, is quite pathetic in all those small, squirrelly ways that have messed up the lives of other grand public figures before him, but why is an all-too-human sin, amply predicted in early Scripture, getting all this incredible media play as some sort of shocking event? The answer is that, while having precious little to do with serious corruption in public life, it does have a great deal to do with stoking flagging newspaper sales and television ratings.


The sad truth is that reporting on major corruption, say, the rationalizations of a president who has authorized torture, doesn't cut it as a marketing bonanza. Just days before this grand expose, the president vetoed a bill banning torture, and instead of being greeted with horrified disgust, the president's deep denigration of this nation's presumed ideals was met with a vast public yawn. Torture, unlike paid sex, doesn't have legs as a news story.


Sex sells, and frankly it would seem far more exploitative for the news media to pimp this tale to the public than anything that VIP escort service did with the pitiable governor. His behavior was not really any more wretched than messing around with a young and vulnerable White House intern who didn't even get paid for her efforts, yet Bill Clinton survived that one, whereas Spitzer was presumed dead on the arrival of this "news." The New York Times, which editorially has supported the candidacy of Hillary Clinton, whose vast White House experience clearly did not include corralling her husband, now editorializes contemptuously about Spitzer's betrayal of the public trust as well as about his exploitation of his "ashen-faced" wife, who, like Hillary, stood by her man.


The media consensus from the opening salvo was that Spitzer must resign and he will be thrown to the dogs, which is unfortunate because, like Clinton, he has done much valuable work in the public interest, and the outrage over this personal dereliction, tawdry in the extreme, is excessive. I certainly never wanted Clinton to resign, let alone be impeached, but why is Spitzer's paying for sex more disgraceful than ripping it off? Yes, Spitzer allegedly broke a law that shouldn't be on the books, and his resignation in disgrace is inevitable, but it bothers me that George W. Bush and Dick Cheney remain in office despite having violated enormously more serious laws.


Frankly, I don't care what any of these politicians do in their personal lives as long as the practice is consensual, and the thousands of dollars that exchanged hands in this case would provide a presumption that the lady in question was indeed a willing partner in this commercial transaction. True, Spitzer is an outrageous hypocrite for having prosecuted others caught in what should not be considered criminal behavior, but since when is hypocrisy on the part of a politician, particularly as to sex, so shocking?
I wouldn't have written this column had I not read The Wall Street Journal's Page 1 news story headlined "Wall Street Cheers as Its Nemesis Plunges Into Crisis." The article begins with the crowing statement "It's Schadenfreude time on Wall Street" and goes on to quote those whom Spitzer went after over what should be considered the criminal greed that has predominated on Wall Street. It was Spitzer, as much as anyone, who sounded the alarm on the subprime mortgage crisis, the obscene payouts to CEOs who defrauded their shareholders and the other financial scandals that have brought the U.S. economy to its knees.

The best rule of thumb these days is that ordinary Americans should be mightily depressed over any news that Wall Street hustlers cheer, for they have been exposed as a dangerous pack of scoundrels quite willing to rob decent, hardworking people of their homes. And of course no one on Wall Street ever paid for sex.

[Bronco Jamus]

He committed the same thing that Vick did. He broke interstate commerce law. He should go to prison and be disbarred. Not to mention he broke New York prostition laws. He caused many innocent people to lose their jobs. In that regard he's no different than Kenneth Lay and Jeff Skilling.

[Rohirrim]

Spitzer's other woman...
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii273/Papi728/ashley031208.jpg

It's those evil boobs. I'm telling you. We are helpless in their power. Right now, Spitzer is asking himself, "What the hell happened?" It was the boobs, guv. The evil power of the boobs.

[baja]

Spitzer's Shame is Wall Street's Gain
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Tell me again: Why should we get all worked up over the revelation that the New York governor paid for sex? Will it bring back to life the eight U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq that same day in a war that makes no sense and has cost this nation trillions in future debt? Will it save those millions of homes that hardworking folks all over the country are losing because of financial industry shenanigans that Eliot Spitzer, as much as anyone, attempted to halt? Perhaps it provides some insight into why oil has risen to $108 a barrel, benefiting most of all the oil sheiks whom our taxpayer-supported military has kept in power?


Sure, the guy, by his own admission, is quite pathetic in all those small, squirrelly ways that have messed up the lives of other grand public figures before him, but why is an all-too-human sin, amply predicted in early Scripture, getting all this incredible media play as some sort of shocking event? The answer is that, while having precious little to do with serious corruption in public life, it does have a great deal to do with stoking flagging newspaper sales and television ratings.


The sad truth is that reporting on major corruption, say, the rationalizations of a president who has authorized torture, doesn't cut it as a marketing bonanza. Just days before this grand expose, the president vetoed a bill banning torture, and instead of being greeted with horrified disgust, the president's deep denigration of this nation's presumed ideals was met with a vast public yawn. Torture, unlike paid sex, doesn't have legs as a news story.


Sex sells, and frankly it would seem far more exploitative for the news media to pimp this tale to the public than anything that VIP escort service did with the pitiable governor. His behavior was not really any more wretched than messing around with a young and vulnerable White House intern who didn't even get paid for her efforts, yet Bill Clinton survived that one, whereas Spitzer was presumed dead on the arrival of this "news." The New York Times, which editorially has supported the candidacy of Hillary Clinton, whose vast White House experience clearly did not include corralling her husband, now editorializes contemptuously about Spitzer's betrayal of the public trust as well as about his exploitation of his "ashen-faced" wife, who, like Hillary, stood by her man.


The media consensus from the opening salvo was that Spitzer must resign and he will be thrown to the dogs, which is unfortunate because, like Clinton, he has done much valuable work in the public interest, and the outrage over this personal dereliction, tawdry in the extreme, is excessive. I certainly never wanted Clinton to resign, let alone be impeached, but why is Spitzer's paying for sex more disgraceful than ripping it off? Yes, Spitzer allegedly broke a law that shouldn't be on the books, and his resignation in disgrace is inevitable, but it bothers me that George W. Bush and Dick Cheney remain in office despite having violated enormously more serious laws.


Frankly, I don't care what any of these politicians do in their personal lives as long as the practice is consensual, and the thousands of dollars that exchanged hands in this case would provide a presumption that the lady in question was indeed a willing partner in this commercial transaction. True, Spitzer is an outrageous hypocrite for having prosecuted others caught in what should not be considered criminal behavior, but since when is hypocrisy on the part of a politician, particularly as to sex, so shocking?
I wouldn't have written this column had I not read The Wall Street Journal's Page 1 news story headlined "Wall Street Cheers as Its Nemesis Plunges Into Crisis." The article begins with the crowing statement "It's Schadenfreude time on Wall Street" and goes on to quote those whom Spitzer went after over what should be considered the criminal greed that has predominated on Wall Street. It was Spitzer, as much as anyone, who sounded the alarm on the subprime mortgage crisis, the obscene payouts to CEOs who defrauded their shareholders and the other financial scandals that have brought the U.S. economy to its knees.

The best rule of thumb these days is that ordinary Americans should be mightily depressed over any news that Wall Street hustlers cheer, for they have been exposed as a dangerous pack of scoundrels quite willing to rob decent, hardworking people of their homes. And of course no one on Wall Street ever paid for sex.

This is the only post I have read in this thread but it reflects my take on the issue.

[baja]

It's those evil boobs. I'm telling you. We are helpless in their power. Right now, Spitzer is asking himself, "What the hell happened?" It was the boobs, guv. The evil power of the boobs.

I see it a little lower than that.

[Rohirrim]

I see it a little lower than that.

That's just the spring going off in the trap. By then, it's too late. But the boobs... they are the peanut butter that draws you in, hapless creature. Ha!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

http://www.bartcop.com/warm-confess-seat.jpg

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

http://www.bartcop.com/spitzer-water-disgusting.jpg

[alkemical]

http://www.disinfo.com/content/story.php?title=GOP-Operative-Claims-Credit-Spitzers-Hookergate

Roger Stone, infamous GOP operative who formerly consulted for the NY State GOP, tells NY1 that he "told the FBI in November of Spitzer's possible involvement in a prostitution ring."