Croyle sticks

[Bronx33]

His wife said hes staying in KC cause she loves the dog groomers work on her Pomeranian.


Link (http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chiefs/story/523283.html)

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His pickup truck is splattered with mud from front to back, with empty foam coffee cups in the truck’s two front-seat cup holders and a few more on the floor, plus a well-used tin of dipping tobacco tucked somewhere between the seats.

The 24-year-old smiles big and has a mop of dark brown hair. He speaks with an Alabama twang and wears T-shirts and sneakers on work days and off days, the joy of youth and the comfort of home.

“There’s nothing big-time about me,” he says. “I’m just a starting quarterback in the NFL.”

Brodie Croyle is an average man with an oversized job. The Chiefs’ quarterback says all the right things and is trying his damnedest to do them, too. He and Kelli, his wife of seven months, bought a house in the Johnson County community of Stilwell and put down roots. Said they wanted to stay for a long time.

He could be in the South, enjoying the warm weather and his family’s company — at his parents’ ranch near Birmingham, Ala., or with Kelli’s family in Mississippi. Instead, he is here, where there are constant reminders that the Chiefs lost all six of Croyle’s starts in 2007.

So many of his teammates — at least half of them, a team spokesman says, but Croyle suspects it is more — blew town after the Chiefs’ last game. They headed to Las Vegas or Hawaii or wherever home is, anywhere that would wash away the memories of a 4-12 season, anywhere but Kansas City. But Croyle settled into Middle America, where he bundled up and braced himself for cold weather and criticism.

“If we’re going to play here, if this is going to be our team, we want it to be our city, too,” he says. “We don’t want to be going from here to there to there. We want to have a home, and we want a place to call home. Kansas City is it.”

Most days, Croyle rises before dawn, goes hunting in the Kansas woods and heads to Arrowhead Stadium. He spends three or four days a week at the stadium, he says, almost every hour spent as the only player there. Coaches have noticed his commitment and even admire it. They say more players should have Croyle’s drive.

But it might not be enough. The NFL draft is in two months, and the Chiefs have a prime choice at No. 5 overall. They have other holes, but coaches might be tempted to take an elite college quarterback.

This season will be Croyle’s third in Kansas City. He is neither a rookie nor a veteran; neither proven nor untested. Coaches have no idea what to think about Croyle because he has neither won nor lost the long-term starting job. He has no defined identity, and that has kept the Chiefs from fully embracing him as their long-term answer at quarterback.

Coaches say his decision to remain in Kansas City this offseason suggests he is committed. Now he must prove himself — one way or the other. Coaches hope Croyle shows he is anything but average.

“We’re really at a crossroads right now,” Chiefs quarterbacks coach Dick Curl says after thinking for a long time about Croyle’s future here. “We’re at that point that we still need — this won’t sound good, maybe — a little bit more time to see where we’re going to go. He’s certainly shown he has the ability to play. But this is a bottom-line business, plain and simple. It’s not about doing good things. It’s about winning. And he needs to win.”

•••

The look never changed, and neither did the questions. For six consecutive Thursdays, the day of the starting quarterback’s weekly news conference, Croyle stood at a podium with a beaten-down expression and told reporters he didn’t know why the Chiefs were losing.

[KCStud]

Gotta like the guys work ethic, but it's hard to judge a QB when he has absolutely no time to throw the ball because of his OL. KC will get some players to help him. A Jake Long, Ryan Clady, Jeff Otah or Carl Nicks would go a long way to helping him develop

[Florida_Bronco]

He should enjoy it while he can. In a few years he will fade off into the sunset. If he's lucky, he might become a career backup.

[SureShot]

“I’m just a starting quarterback in the NFL.”

Not for long bird bones.

[CBF1]

He should enjoy it while he can. In a few years he will fade off into the sunset. If he's lucky, he might become a career backup.

You over estimate his talent and potential. :thumbsup:

[Bronx33]

Bob loves his wizard of oz shoes.

[Punisher]

Croyle is ok just needs an O-line i would'nt goes as far as calling him a bum...But hes a Chief so Puck him

[DeuceOfClub]

Croyle is the best thing that happened to the Raiders in the last 5 years.

[KCStud]

He should enjoy it while he can. In a few years he will fade off into the sunset. If he's lucky, he might become a career backup.

Yawn..people said the same thing about Derek Andersen and then he got an OL. Look at what happened when he actually had time to throw the ball.
Last years losses were the Chiefs fault, not Croyle's.

[broncs2bowl]

Croyle is gonna be the worst QB in the AFC West for a LONG TIME LOL!.....Cutler, River and Russell man poor Croyle

[BroncoFiend]

Yawn..people said the same thing about Derek Andersen and then he got an OL. Look at what happened when he actually had time to throw the ball.
Last years losses were the Chiefs fault, not Croyle's.

By this time next year, Chief fans will hate Croyle...bank on it.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

There's only one two definitive statements where Brodie Croyle is concerned right now:

1. He's injury prone

2. He has first-round talent

This article adds a third definitive statement

3. He has high character and work ethic

Anyone judging him past these three statements is just wishing and hoping.

[SoDak Bronco]

Bob, lots of people have 1st round talent...Ryan Leaf, Joey Harrington, Rick Mieyer..A great QB takes avg talent and brings his team to another level. Last year he obviously wasn't able to help the Chiefys. He is the type of QB that needs a lot of help to look like an above Avg QB IMO

[Inkana7]

2. He has first-round talent


This is news.

[no-pseudo-fan]

"His wife said hes staying in KC cause she loves the dog groomers work on her Pomeranian."

That's hot. That is the dirtiest thing that I heard all day.:rofl:

[Bob's your Information Minister]

This is news.

JP Losman and Brodie Croyle are essentially the same player. Losman was drafted in the first round.

[Inkana7]

JP Losman and Brodie Croyle are essentially the same player. Losman was drafted in the first round.

Losman has won at least one game in his career, and came out of the Glorious Quarterback Class of 2005.

[Punisher]

JP Losman and Brodie Croyle are essentially the same player. Losman was drafted in the first round.

If JP and Croyle are the same player then your team is in big big trouble

[Bronx33]

If JP and Croyle are the same player then your team is in big big trouble


That's what i was thinking.

[azbroncfan]

Croyle sounds like a pretty cool guy. Too bad he is stuck in KC.

[400HZ]

JP Losman and Brodie Croyle are essentially the same player. Losman was drafted in the first round.

You're using this to prop up Croyle? Haha, wow, standards have fallen.

[Rausch 2.0]

I'd agree he's got 1st round talent.

Problem is he's a string bean and he's easily beaten up. Behind our line even worse.

It's a make or break year. We don't expect the stars but we do need to see a glimpse of promise outside of raw talent and arm strength. Lead us back in the 4th quarter. Use those legs and buy some time to make a couple game changing plays.

I don't know. Hell, win a game...

[Florida_Bronco]

Yawn..people said the same thing about Derek Andersen and then he got an OL. Look at what happened when he actually had time to throw the ball.
Last years losses were the Chiefs fault, not Croyle's.

I never said that about Derek Anderson.

[SoCalBronco]

Croyle is a decent young QB. I think he performed admirably considering the circumstances last year, having to deal with that offense. It would be totally premature, IMO, for the Chiefs to go QB anywhere in the first four rounds. He's shown some promise. If they can protect him better and get another youngster to complement Bowe, he should be an above average NFL QB.

[Los Broncos]

Is it me or does he seem pussy whooped?

[Rausch 2.0]

Is it me or does he seem p***Y whooped?

I take it you haven't seen his wife.

I'd wear orange panties with Elway's face on them to hit that...

[Kaylore]

“We’re really at a crossroads right now,” Chiefs quarterbacks coach Dick Curl says after thinking for a long time about Croyle’s future here. “We’re at that point that we still need — this won’t sound good, maybe — a little bit more time to see where we’re going to go. He’s certainly shown he has the ability to play. But this is a bottom-line business, plain and simple. It’s not about doing good things. It’s about winning. And he needs to win.”
That's what its about and as we all know, any time he's played, started or otherwise, the Chiefs have lost.

[Rausch 2.0]

That's what its about and as we all know, any time he's played, started or otherwise, the Chiefs have lost.

I think a lot of that had to do with specific players just laying down. On top of an old team needing talent.

Last year the wheeles fell off - Croyle or no Croyle.

I think a lot of these cuts had to do with guys just giving up once the chance to be competitive (division title, postseason) was over. On top of that you had DV players trying to make-sit with a Herm team because Carl had convinced him there was a run or two with the talent on board.

Didn't happen.

[Los Broncos]

I take it you haven't seen his wife.

I'd wear orange panties with Elway's face on them to hit that...

Ive seen his wife, she is very beautiful.

But that wouldn't be enough to hold me.

[KCStud]

That's what its about and as we all know, any time he's played, started or otherwise, the Chiefs have lost.

Let me guess Kaylore. It's ALL Croyle's fault isn't it? I mean a QB with no experience with a nonexistent OL, 1 good WR, and his star RB hurt is supposed to light it up?

[boltaneer]

Croyle's future doesn't look bright at all IMO. If the Chiefs draft well and get lucky, it's going to take a few years before they're competitive IMO. Are they going to stick it out that long with Croyle?

All this talk of he has first round talent is garbage. Thirty-two teams did not feel he was worth a first or even a second round pick. If the Chiefs didn't pick him, he might have fallen a couple more rounds... who knows? It doesn't mean he can't become a great player but saying he has first round talent at this point in time is a joke.

But the fact that he is a third round pick, makes him very expendable because of his contract and teams don't invest as much into a third round pick compared to a first round pick. I think he's destined to become a journeyman quarterback, unless another team gives him another shot in the future and he breaks out.

[KCStud]

Croyle is a decent young QB. I think he performed admirably considering the circumstances last year, having to deal with that offense. It would be totally premature, IMO, for the Chiefs to go QB anywhere in the first four rounds. He's shown some promise. If they can protect him better and get another youngster to complement Bowe, he should be an above average NFL QB.

I agree with this very much. Croyle showed a lot last year when he had protection. Look at the Colts game and especially the Titans game. Croyle did well because he was protected, then he made a rookie mistake. As time goes on, he will most likely get rid of the experience problem.

Bottom line is that Croyle can't be accurately judged off of last season. The offense is not helping him at all. Give him a talented #2 WR, LT, and RG and if he continues to falter, then it is time to get a new QB

[Rausch 2.0]

Croyle's future doesn't look bright at all IMO. If the Chiefs draft well and get lucky, it's going to take a few years before they're competitive IMO. Are they going to stick it out that long with Croyle?

All this talk of he has first round talent is garbage. Thirty-two teams did not feel he was worth a first or even a second round pick. If the Chiefs didn't pick him, he might have fallen a couple more rounds... who knows? It doesn't mean he can't become a great player but saying he has first round talent at this point in time is a joke.

But the fact that he is a third round pick, makes him very expendable because of his contract and teams don't invest as much into a third round pick compared to a first round pick. I think he's destined to become a journeyman quarterback, unless another team gives him another shot in the future and he breaks out.

He had 1st round talent and 5th round durability. He fell because there was good reason. When you watch him throw it's just unnatural how a guy that skinny can sling the ball the way he does. I think that stands out more than anything and clouds the minds of Chiefs fans.

There were rumors we'd move to a Kubiak similar offense. He would have been a perfect for it. Gailey's offense has never been a QB-centric offense. He always worked off the line and a solid running game. He's a methodical guy.

When you watch his tendancies he's a lot like a Norv Turner as OC. Makes me wonder how long we play the game before we draft a straight up drop-back passer...

[KCStud]

Croyle's future doesn't look bright at all IMO. If the Chiefs draft well and get lucky, it's going to take a few years before they're competitive IMO. Are they going to stick it out that long with Croyle?

All this talk of he has first round talent is garbage. Thirty-two teams did not feel he was worth a first or even a second round pick. If the Chiefs didn't pick him, he might have fallen a couple more rounds... who knows? It doesn't mean he can't become a great player but saying he has first round talent at this point in time is a joke.

But the fact that he is a third round pick, makes him very expendable because of his contract and teams don't invest as much into a third round pick compared to a first round pick. I think he's destined to become a journeyman quarterback, unless another team gives him another shot in the future and he breaks out.

Croyle fell to the third round because he had injury concerns. His talent and confidence was never in question. A lot of experts pegged Croyle to be a 2nd rounder to the Ravens or Vikings after the combine before the 2006 NFL Draft.
I think he has shown some things that young QB's like Kellen Clemmons, JP Losman, John Beck and Tavaris Jackson have not.

Building the team around Croyle will do wonders as well. Phillip Rivers is an average QB with a bad temper, but looks great because he has LT, Gates, a solid OL, and solid WR's.

[Bronco Jamus]

Croyle had the Alabama high school passing record until JaMarcus Russell broke it.

[Rausch 2.0]

Phillip Rivers is an average QB with a bad temper, but looks great because he has LT, Gates, a solid OL, and solid WR's.

Rivers didn't have $#it to throw to until the Chambers trade outside of Gates.

That said, he did have a solid line in front of him. He did have time.

This year Brady will have the tools (Gozo, Bowe, LJ) even if he has a shaky line. He has more to throw to than most, he just needs to figure out how to place the ball well in a hurry...

[Kaylore]

Let me guess Kaylore. It's ALL Croyle's fault isn't it? I mean a QB with no experience with a nonexistent OL, 1 good WR, and his star RB hurt is supposed to light it up?

You're pretty sensitive about your Brodie Frayle QB, huh? I was just commenting on what that member of the Chiefs own coaching staff said about him needing to win more. He certainly needs help. At some point you need to produce, though.

[Rausch 2.0]

At some point you need to produce, though.

N00b.

We're Chiefs fans. We know denial...

[Breaker]

JP Losman and Brodie Croyle are essentially the same player. Losman was drafted in the first round.

You are using Losman as an example of what Croyle is!!! Hilarious! That is the problem .. he is just like Losman.

[Florida_Bronco]

You're pretty sensitive about your Brodie Frayle QB, huh? I was just commenting on what that member of the Chiefs own coaching staff said about him needing to win more. He certainly needs help. At some point you need to produce, though.

He's just bitter that he was wrong on just about everything he said last year, and we were right.

Anytime that stooge mentions something about football, it's safe to assume that it's wrong.

[boltaneer]

I think he has shown some things that young QB's like Kellen Clemmons, JP Losman, John Beck and Tavaris Jackson have not.

All those quarterbacks you've named have won games (minus Beck and I'm not impressed with him either).

When Brodie goes out and wins A GAME, come back and we can talk some more.

[boltaneer]

Phillip Rivers is an average QB with a bad temper, but looks great because he has LT, Gates, a solid OL, and solid WR's.

Peyton is an average QB but looks great because of Harrison, Wayne, Clark and a pretty damn good o-line.

Brady is an average QB but looks great because of his incredible o-line and now Randy Moss.

Hell, Kurt Warner was dominant with Holt, Bruce, Faulk but turned into crap after that run was over.

That's a stupid game you can play with any QB.

Seriously, look at the state the Chiefs are in. They're in full out rebuilding mode. How many years do you think before they'll be a contender?

Croyle's contract is up after 2009. I just can't see him sticking around after that unless he starts to light it up and IMO there are too many issues with your o-line and WRs for it to happen this season. 2009? Maybe but we'll see.

[KCStud]

You're pretty sensitive about your Brodie Frayle QB, huh? I was just commenting on what that member of the Chiefs own coaching staff said about him needing to win more. He certainly needs help. At some point you need to produce, though.

No, I just get a kick out of people who judge him simply based on last season. Dick Curl is the biggest moron of a coach on the planet and Chiefs fans hate him. His word means and will never mean nothing.
I do agree that he does need help. The offense around him was not helping him at all.
This is the year that Croyle needs to start proving himself

[SureShot]

Let me guess Kaylore. It's ALL Croyle's fault isn't it? I mean a QB with no experience with a nonexistent OL, 1 good WR, and his star RB hurt is supposed to light it up?


You mean like Cutler?

[Bronco Yoda]

Croyle is a piece of glass waiting to shatter and you know it.

Nice guy, great family, smok'n wife... but he'll be in crutches and IR before that O-line can hope to protect anyone.

[Dedhed]

Let me guess Kaylore. It's ALL Croyle's fault isn't it? I mean a QB with no experience with a nonexistent OL, 1 good WR, and his star RB hurt is supposed to light it up?

Cutler managed to put up impressive #s in the same situation. Even managed to win a few ball games while entirely lacking a defense as well.

[Spider]

Chief fan = It isnt Frayle fault , he had no Oline ....
Bronco fan = Shut the hell up , we have the Smallest oline in the NFL , and we also watched Elway run for his life damn near every play .....
Bolt Fan = went surfing today , caught some Rays , steves and a Jim ......
Raider fan = Shannarat sucks.... Go black hole ......

[cmhargrove]

Croyle is a decent young QB. I think he performed admirably considering the circumstances last year, having to deal with that offense. It would be totally premature, IMO, for the Chiefs to go QB anywhere in the first four rounds. He's shown some promise. If they can protect him better and get another youngster to complement Bowe, he should be an above average NFL QB.

I disagree on this point.

I think the Chiefs need O-line first. However, the best QB values in this draft will probably be in rounds 2-3 (if teams don't go crazy in the first because of need). Even if you were a KC fan and you wanted Croyle to succeed - the best way to do that is with someone breathing down his neck, even during practice. I think Croyle needs the competition in order to raise his game.

So, I hope they don't draft a QB. They will probably flounder another year or two. But, if you wanted the best for Croyle, I would draft another young "potential" guy (like Flacco) that was trying to take his job. Just my opinion.

[Tom A Hawk]

By this time next year, Chief fans will hate Croyle...bank on it.

I am always ahead of the curve. I don't hate him......but I don't like him as the starter QB for the team. I have to lay a fair amount of blame on Edwards and Curl. You can't be a successful QB with those two. Both of those morons thought the OL was good enough last year. Wrong again. It won't matter who the Qb is for a few years. Until that OL is fixed, they may be retiring at a very early age. Croyle will be through after this year as a starter.

[Tom A Hawk]

JP Losman and Brodie Croyle are essentially the same player. Losman was drafted in the first round.

you couldn't be more of a moron if you tried. Your comment just proves that Losman shouldn't have been a first round pick.

On a donkey board bragging about a QB that hasn't won a game yet and then comparing him to Losman. What is your point? I think you are helping the donkey fans out here and right now, they don't need it.

[KCStud]

Cutler managed to put up impressive #s in the same situation. Even managed to win a few ball games while entirely lacking a defense as well.

Um, Croyle didn't have Nalen and Lepsis. He also didn't have complimentary WR's like Brandon Stokeley.
Cutler had a lot more talent on the offense in Denver

[cmhargrove]

Um, Croyle didn't have Nalen and Lepsis. He also didn't have complimentary WR's like Brandon Stokeley.
Cutler had a lot more talent on the offense in Denver

Ergo, Cutler actually won a few games (although I will be the first to acknowledge he still has a losing record). However, Cutler has taken a few games on his shoulders and won them. That is what you want (and expect) from a winning QB.

With an improved defense, I truly believe Cutler could be poised for a Pro-Bowl caliber year. I don't mean that as a homer, I believe he is ready for that level of production.

[Kaylore]

Um, Croyle didn't have Nalen and Lepsis. He also didn't have complimentary WR's like Brandon Stokeley.
Cutler had a lot more talent on the offense in Denver

Cutler didn't have Nalen and Lepsis either. I mean sure, Lepsis was technically out there, but everyone saw he was done and struggled the whole year. Bowe and Marshall are comaprable, though I'll admit that Marshall is better. But Tony Gonzalez is just as all hands as Stokely except that Stokely got hurt toward the end of the season. Scheffler came on strong later, but the bottome line is both QB's were essentially in the same situations except that our poor defense put more pressure on Cutler. They even both suffered severe injuries except Croyle sat out to get better and Cutler finished the season hurt because he's a freaking bad ass.

[Spider]

Um, Croyle didn't have Nalen and Lepsis. He also didn't have complimentary WR's like Brandon Stokeley.
Cutler had a lot more talent on the offense in Denver

um youre ass ....... Lepsis had a bad year , Nalen went on Ir over a torn muscle , and only a half wit would say Denver has a TE of Gonzos talent ......... Listen up peaches , loosers make excuses ......

[KCStud]

Cutler didn't have Nalen and Lepsis either. I mean sure, Lepsis was technically out there, but everyone saw he was done and struggled the whole year. Bowe and Marshall are comaprable, though I'll admit that Marshall is better. But Tony Gonzalez is just as all hands as Stokely except that Stokely got hurt toward the end of the season. Scheffler came on strong later, but the bottome line is both QB's were essentially in the same situations except that our poor defense put more pressure on Cutler. They even both suffered severe injuries except Croyle sat out to get better and Cutler finished the season hurt because he's a freaking bad ass.

What? Croyle did finish the season, hurt. Granted, Cutler is the better QB right now and has grown quite a bit since he entered the league. I would say Bowe and Marshall are comparable. I see pro bowls for both in the future.
KC's OL was just plain HORRIBLE. McIntosh did a decent job, Weigmann was done and struggled badly(much like Lepsis), same goes for Welbourne who is nothing without the roids, Waters was good, but can't do everything by himself. Rudy Niswanger hurt his knee badly so he was gone, then we had noboby at RT. Turley was hurt and KC cut Terry because he gave up 11 sacks in 13 games.

[nickademus]

Croyle fell to the third round because he had injury concerns. His talent and confidence was never in question. A lot of experts pegged Croyle to be a 2nd rounder to the Ravens or Vikings after the combine before the 2006 NFL Draft.
I think he has shown some things that young QB's like Kellen Clemmons, JP Losman, John Beck and Tavaris Jackson have not.

Building the team around Croyle will do wonders as well. Phillip Rivers is an average QB with a bad temper, but looks great because he has LT, Gates, a solid OL, and solid WR's.

rivers recievers were crap untill they got chambers for a song. while I liked watching Croyle in college the guy didnt just have the injury bug he owned the damn thing. as far as showing more than some other young QB's las I checked every one of thoes guys other than Beck have won a game in the NFL I could see the compairson to Beck but Kellen Clemmons he is not.

[broncosteven]

There's only one two definitive statements where Brodie Croyle is concerned right now:

1. He's injury prone

2. He has first-round talent

This article adds a third definitive statement

3. He has high character and work ethic

Anyone judging him past these three statements is just wishing and hoping.


You forgot that he is win-less in career starts.

[DBBBSBS]

looks like bob and kcstud spend more time at the broncos board than there own. what are the forums for other afc west contestants ? or other nfl teams in general that are popular. any links to that ?

[Bronco Rob]

Um, Croyle didn't have Nalen and Lepsis. He also didn't have complimentary WR's like Brandon Stokeley.
Cutler had a lot more talent on the offense in Denver


Not to mention Cutler is in a different zipcode talent wise than 'Bro die'.

He did have some guy named Tony Gonzalez, but it doesn't matter Croyle is a Yugo.....Culter is a Ferrari.

I invite you to watch this short clip of greatness.......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayItjFT9dQw


Any questions?

[KCStud]

Not to mention Cutler is in a different zipcode talent wise than 'Bro die'.

He did have some guy named Tony Gonzalez, but it doesn't matter Croyle is a Yugo.....Culter is a Ferrari.

I invite you to watch this short clip of greatness.......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayItjFT9dQw


Any questions?

Looks to me like the WR who caught that ball isn't in Denver anymore

[elsid13]

He had 1st round talent and 5th round durability. He fell because there was good reason. When you watch him throw it's just unnatural how a guy that skinny can sling the ball the way he does. I think that stands out more than anything and clouds the minds of Chiefs fans.

There were rumors we'd move to a Kubiak similar offense. He would have been a perfect for it. Gailey's offense has never been a QB-centric offense. He always worked off the line and a solid running game. He's a methodical guy.

When you watch his tendancies he's a lot like a Norv Turner as OC. Makes me wonder how long we play the game before we draft a straight up drop-back passer...

Actually you are moving to Mike Shanahan style of offense (But that hurt to write didn't it). Your run game will be the zone blocking scheme (reason you tried to hire Alex Gibbs) and your passing game is going to WCO (that
was one of the reason you hired Chan Gailey(sp?)).

To be effective your o-lone going to need stability and unit coordination, plus LJ is going to need to be patience and wait for the hole to develop.

[Kaylore]

Can we change this thread title to "Croyle sticks to turf" or "Croyle sticks to IR list"?

[elsid13]

Can we change this thread title to "Croyle sticks to turf" or "Croyle sticks to IR list"?

New game time

OK fellow maners Fill in the Statement "Croyle sticks to ..... " Winner gets Pez for a week.

[Binkythefrog]

Croyle has only played 6 games. I think after playing at Bama he should have the intagibles you would like to see in a QB.

We can't judge Croyle until he actually gets something to work with. The Chiefs running game ranked last in the NFL in 07 with 78 yards a game. I don't think very many QB could succeed on an offense that was that one dimensional.

[SureShot]

Like a dog turd Croyle sticks to the bottom of the Defense's shoe.

[55CrushEm]

Can we change this thread title to "Croyle sticks to turf" or "Croyle sticks to IR list"?

Or how about this......

"Croyle Plays Tummy Sticks"

[Bronco Rob]

Looks to me like the WR who caught that ball isn't in Denver anymore


BRILLIANT! Cuz the most amazing part of that play was the catch.....


Good grief.........


Why do I ever bother...........*SIGH*

[Punisher]

What? Croyle did finish the season, hurt. Granted, Cutler is the better QB right now and has grown quite a bit since he entered the league. I would say Bowe and Marshall are comparable. I see pro bowls for both in the future.
KC's OL was just plain HORRIBLE. McIntosh did a decent job, Weigmann was done and struggled badly(much like Lepsis), same goes for Welbourne who is nothing without the roids, Waters was good, but can't do everything by himself. Rudy Niswanger hurt his knee badly so he was gone, then we had noboby at RT. Turley was hurt and KC cut Terry because he gave up 11 sacks in 13 games.

LMAO Comparing Marshall to Bowe is soo dumb just stop it

[KCStud]

LMAO Comparing Marshall to Bowe is soo dumb just stop it

LMAO Bowe is gonna be a pro bowl WR in upcoming years. Right now he IS the best WR out of his draft class

[Bronx33]

LMAO Bowe is gonna be a pro bowl WR in upcoming years. Right now he IS the best WR out of his draft class


ok

[boltaneer]

The AFC is stacked with Pro Bowl caliber receivers (Harrison, Wayne, Moss, Braylon Edwards, Andre Johnson, Ocho Cinco and Houshmandzadeh) so it's going to be tough for some of these young guys to beat those top guys.

I can see Marshall making it in if he stays healthy (He takes too much punishment trying to get that extra yard IMO). I don't know about Bowe though. He put up great numbers for a rookie last year but he's gonna need someone better at QB to get him the ball to get those extra yards and TDs to put up Pro Bowl type numbers.

[Bronco Yoda]

bump

[Vladimir]

I had a feeling you bumped this after i saw two previous old threads brought back up by you. lol

[DB_champ24]

LMAO Bowe is gonna be a pro bowl WR in upcoming years. Right now he IS the best WR out of his draft class

Ya Bowe will most likely be a Pro Bowl WR, but Marshall will be an All Pro WR and that starts this season, for Marshall.

[Vladimir]

Ya Bowe will most likely be a Pro Bowl WR, but Marshall will be an All Pro WR and that starts this season, for Marshall.

I bet Bowe doesn't make the pro bowl this year with the QB circus they got going on over in KC. !Booya!

[DB_champ24]

I bet Bowe doesn't make the pro bowl this year with the QB circus they got going on over in KC. !Booya!

Oh no way is he a pro bowl WR this year, but down the road (if they ever fix their QB situation) he will be.

[Vladimir]

Oh no way is he a pro bowl WR this year, but down the road (if they ever fix their QB situation) he will be.

Agreed.

[Mountain Bronco]

Is it too early to call Mr. Frail a BUST.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

No. We'll know after this season. I'm expecting good things when he returns.

If he gets hurt again, see ya.

[azbroncfan]

No. We'll know after this season. I'm expecting good things when he returns.

WHEN he gets hurt again, see ya.

Fixed. Never been healthy in college and so far guess what he hasn't stayed healthy in the pros. Big surprise.

[Mountain Bronco]

Started 7 games, has been injured in 3 = Soft. Even for a 3rd round pick, he is BUST.

[Atlas]

Started 7 games, has been injured in 3 = Soft. Even for a 3rd round pick, he is BUST.

yep, three big time injuries, The guy is more brittle than a pecan tree.

[Ambiguous]

Croyle sounds like a pretty cool guy. Too bad he is stuck in KC.

Have to agree with you here. I don't know whether it's his lack of talent or his line, a little (or A LOT) of both, but at least he isn't taking douchebaggery to epic levels like Rivers is.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Croyle does not lack talent.