Broncos to meet with Orpheus Roye (DT)

[55CrushEm]

Here we go again.....

Free Agent DT Orpheus Roye will meet with the Broncos on Friday.
Roye is 35 years old, and has struggled with knee issues for the past two seasons. He should only be counted to add depth to the interior of the Broncos' line.

[footstepsfrom#27]

Who?

[55CrushEm]

Who?

Exactly.

[montrose]

The next Brownco!

[Paladin]

Maybe a living tackling bag?????

[fontaine]

http://resources.digital-word.com/urbanmainframe.com/assets/system.image_vault/weblog/chasing_your_tail.jpg

Who needs decent DTs like Ian Scott, Darwin Walker, McFarland, or Larry Tripplett?

[Orange_Beard]

Great name.

[RaiderH8r]

Oh God Dammit!

[Popcorn Sutton]

Youth movement please....

[Atlas]

Exactly.

If you guys don't know who he is you don't know football. He has been around forever.

The Broncos need a vet DT. Roye would be good for a year. Maybe not as good as Booger but he is cheaper and will sign a 1 year deal.

He was the best Brown DL out of the bunch.

[55CrushEm]

If you guys don't know who he is you don't know football. He has been around forever.

The Broncos need a vet DT. Roye would be good for a year. Maybe not as good as Booger but he is cheaper and will sign a 1 year deal.

He was the best Brown DL out of the bunch.

Yup. Okay. I don't know football. ::)

I could've looked him up on Wikipedia as easily as you.....I just didn't feel like it.

[crowebomber]

If you guys don't know who he is you don't know football. He has been around forever.

The Broncos need a vet DT. Roye would be good for a year. Maybe not as good as Booger but he is cheaper and will sign a 1 year deal.

He was the best Brown DL out of the bunch.

No kidding. And even the casual fan should at least remember a name like that.

[worm]

Browncos
Weed
Cheap guys with knee problems

I wonder what the theme will be for next off-season?

[Los Broncos]

Sounds like Shanny's kind of player.

[GoHAM]

Well, color me unsurprised. Another ex-Brown, no way.

[broncos-rock]

Did we learn nothing from the great Sam Adams experiment? (I know not the same type of player but old washed up lineman) I would'nt mind if they had signed Roye like 4years ago when he was worth a damn!! This really has me second guessing the thought process over at Dove Valley!

[55CrushEm]

No kidding. And even the casual fan should at least remember a name like that.

Oh sure. EVERY fan should know who this guy is.....I mean, come on....he's averaged 20.2 unassissted tackles, and 1.5 sacks over his career.

An perennial pro-bowler that whose impact on the game should've been known by all.....

I'll give you the unique name.......

[footstepsfrom#27]

If you guys don't know who he is you don't know football. He has been around forever.

The Broncos need a vet DT. Roye would be good for a year. Maybe not as good as Booger but he is cheaper and will sign a 1 year deal.

He was the best Brown DL out of the bunch.
Whatever...thank God I have enough life that I'm not up on every anonomous Cleveland Brownie that comes through here. He looks like Sam Adams II without the pedigree. I guess we needn't worry about drafting a young talented DT now eh?

Some things never change.

[Spider]

Here we go again.....

Free Agent DT Orpheus Roye will meet with the Broncos on Friday.
Roye is 35 years old, and has struggled with knee issues for the past two seasons. He should only be counted to add depth to the interior of the Broncos' line.

;D look at it this way ...sooner or later we should hit the jackpot .......... the best spin I can put on this .

[Spider]

Roye was a stand out back in the day .. then electricity was invented ;D

[footstepsfrom#27]

I'd rather talk Warren Sapp out of retirement.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Let's hope that this is just a rotation guy and nothing more.

[Spider]

I'd rather talk Warren Sapp out of retirement.

The twinkie killa ?

[footstepsfrom#27]

The twinkie killa ?
Could he be any worse than these other dudes? :thumbs:

[Spider]

Could he be any worse than these other dudes? :thumbs:

;D only to twinkies

[broncosteven]

http://resources.digital-word.com/urbanmainframe.com/assets/system.image_vault/weblog/chasing_your_tail.jpg

Who needs decent DTs like Ian Scott, Darwin Walker, McFarland, or Larry Tripplett?

With all due respect, Darwin Walker is no better at this stage of his career. He sat out 5 games with Duh Bears last year and they cut him loose after trading a 4th rounder to get him before TC or PS last year.

Tommie Harris had to play with nagging injuries because Walker wouldn't go.

[Arkansas Bronco]

I think I am going to through up. Seriously, damn virus. He use to be good so I dont mind him at all as a rotational tackle.

[Hotrod]

this is ****ing bull****

Shanny wtf is your problem

[BroncoInferno]

He was solid for two or three years with the Steelers. I think he got a pretty big deal from the Browns several years back and disappointed. For those who feel the need to whine, I doubt this would be anything more than a 1 year, vet minimum deal. Nothing wrong with that for a look-see.

[Hotrod]

Spin away and enjoy getting our ass handed to us up the middle next season.

We have dropped the ball to date on fixing the #1 problem on this team.

I need some kalua in my coffee :)

[broncosteven]

I wish they would wait until after the Draft to address DT. There is no clear slam dunk out there (without trade) and there are bound to be June 1st cuts or TC cuts that can be just as effective.

If the Draft plays out and they get a good DT, then screw the flea market pickups.

[55CrushEm]

Spin away and enjoy getting our ass handed to us up the middle next season.

We have dropped the ball to date on fixing the #1 problem on this team.

I need some kalua in my coffee :)

Yup. Not even an average DT was brought in for a look. Which mean Marcus is our best player at the position....and we'll have McKinley, a rookie, or this busted-knee specimen next to him.

Hopefully, we can jump one notch to the 29th ranked run-D.......

[BroncoInferno]

Spin away and enjoy getting our ass handed to us up the middle next season.

We have dropped the ball to date on fixing the #1 problem on this team.

I need some kalua in my coffee :)

No one is spinning. If he signs for anything more than 1 year at the vet minimum, I'll join you in the complaints. Otherwise, you and your fellow whiners are just looking for something to complain about.

[footstepsfrom#27]

We should just play a 6 man line next year and hope receivers drop a few.

[Hotrod]

No one is spinning. If he signs for anything more than 1 year at the vet minimum, I'll join you in the complaints. Otherwise, you and your fellow whiners are just looking for something to complain about.

Its not even about this tub of goo itself. Its about the fact we've done nothing to date to improve this team.

Hell lets throw a couple million at Nate freaking Jackson then we bring in a 35 year old DT with bad knees. Lets top that off by slamming our dicks in the car door and call it a year.

Ok maybe Im just alittle pissy today :)

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

Guys WTF. He's a warm body. Not the answer. Do you really think that Shannahan thinks he is the answer. Thats all he is "a warm body". Remember in training camp the roster is 85 men. There will be a lot of cuts to get down to the 53 man roster spots.

We would all sell really imporant parts of our bodies if we could land a name player. But think about the market we are in right now. People are over paying for average talent. And every big name out there is thinking "if player 'x' is worth 'a' then player 'y' is worth '2*a'"

[dbfan21]

why in the heck can't we leave these dumpster bin players alone! what is so friggin special about this guy that we would even want to offer the veteran minmum for his services?

ditch him, shanny! focus on solid FA's, our current roster and the draft - not these injury-plagued cast-offs from terrible teams. wtf?!!!

[BroncoInferno]

Its not even about this tub of goo itself. Its about the fact we've done nothing to date to improve this team.

Hell lets throw a couple million at Nate freaking Jackson then we bring in a 35 year old DT with bad knees. Lets top that off by slamming our ***** in the car door and call it a year.

Ok maybe Im just alittle pissy today :)

Let's let the FA and the draft play itself out before go about arm-flailing. Who knows what moves will be made in the coming months? If DT has not been addressed by the conclusion of the draft, I will join you on the ledge.

Also, I disagree the team has not been improved. We have not signed any bona fide studs, true, but we are signing pretty good guys at very reasonable prices. If you look at the history of FA, those are the types of moves that end up paying off more so than the blockbuster approach.

[broncosteven]

Its not even about this tub of goo itself. Its about the fact we've done nothing to date to improve this team.

Hell lets throw a couple million at Nate freaking Jackson then we bring in a 35 year old DT with bad knees. Lets top that off by slamming our ***** in the car door and call it a year.

Ok maybe Im just alittle pissy today :)

I will brighten your day:

Just remember that Chad Mustard is still on the roster.

[Atlas]

Yup. Okay. I don't know football. ::)

I could've looked him up on Wikipedia as easily as you.....I just didn't feel like it.

I didn't have to. Christ, he has only been in the league 13 years. He is the one guy from Cleveland Denver should have traded for.

[BroncoInferno]

Guys WTF. He's a warm body. Not the answer. Do you really think that Shannahan thinks he is the answer. Thats all he is "a warm body". Remember in training camp the roster is 85 men. There will be a lot of cuts to get down to the 53 man roster spots.

We would all sell really imporant parts of our bodies if we could land a name player. But think about the market we are in right now. People are over paying for average talent. And every big name out there is thinking "if player 'x' is worth 'a' then player 'y' is worth '2*a'"

Thank you for a little perspective. Every team brings in guys like this to compete in camp. Doesn't mean much is expected of him. Hell, we don't even know whether or not he'll actually be offered anything. He's just in for a visit.

[broncosteven]

Let's let the FA and the draft play itself out before go about arm-flailing. Who knows what moves will be made in the coming months? If DT has not been addressed by the conclusion of the draft, I will join you on the ledge.

Also, I disagree the team has not been improved. We have not signed any bona fide studs, true, but we are signing pretty good guys at very reasonable prices. If you look at the history of FA, those are the types of moves that end up paying off more so than the blockbuster approach.

You stole my line! Look at post #31!

You owe me some rep.

[Hotrod]

Let's let the FA and the draft play itself out before go about arm-flailing. Who knows what moves will be made in the coming months? If DT has not been addressed by the conclusion of the draft, I will join you on the ledge.

Also, I disagree the team has not been improved. We have not signed any bona fide studs, true, but we are signing pretty good guys at very reasonable prices. If you look at the history of FA, those are the types of moves that end up paying off more so than the blockbuster approach.

Like I said Im prolly just a bit pissy today but damn Shannys history would seem to indicate he puts ZERO value on DT's

[footstepsfrom#27]

Do you really think that Shannahan thinks he is the answer.
Sadly...yes.

[BroncoInferno]

Like I said Im prolly just a bit pissy today but damn Shannys history would seem to indicate he puts ZERO value on DT's

DTs are a VERY tough position to fill. They have one of the highest bust rates in the draft, and the good DTs rarely become available on the FA market. If you look at our draft positioning over the years, we really have not been in a position to get a top DT. We wanted Tommie Harris in '04, but the Bears got him 3 spots earlier. Many of us wanted Bunkley back in '06...I'm kinda glad Shanny did not go that route, aren't you? And FA is even worse. Teams hold on to young, good DTs. The best case scenario is to swing a trade, but look at how many times teams give up high picks for a DT and it ends up working out poorly. It's tough. But, we are in a pretty good position this year draft wise.

[footstepsfrom#27]

DTs are a VERY tough position to fill. They have one of the highest bust rates in the draft, and the good DTs rarely become available on the FA market. If you look at our draft positioning over the years, we really have not been in a position to get a top DT. We wanted Tommie Harris in '04, but the Bears got him 3 spots earlier. Many of us wanted Bunkley back in '06...I'm kinda glad Shanny did not go that route, aren't you? And FA is even worse. Teams hold on to young, good DTs. The best case scenario is to swing a trade, but look at how many times teams give up high picks for a DT and it ends up working out poorly. It's tough. But, we are in a pretty good position this year draft wise.
Excuses...I'm tired of all that BS. If we knew how to scout talent we'd have built a line by now...simple fact is...we don't.

[epicSocialism4tw]

DTs are a VERY tough position to fill. They have one of the highest bust rates in the draft, and the good DTs rarely become available on the FA market. If you look at our draft positioning over the years, we really have not been in a position to get a top DT. We wanted Tommie Harris in '04, but the Bears got him 3 spots earlier. Many of us wanted Bunkley back in '06...I'm kinda glad Shanny did not go that route, aren't you? And FA is even worse. Teams hold on to young, good DTs. The best case scenario is to swing a trade, but look at how many times teams give up high picks for a DT and it ends up working out poorly. It's tough. But, we are in a pretty good position this year draft wise.

We are in a good position, but I would expect Shanny to spend the pick on something else. He rarely drafts players to plug into the starting lineup, he usually drafts players to develop into starting roles in positions that have not been resolved like he would like.

[2KBack]

There is no Spoon

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

Sadly...yes.

Well that tells me more about how you think than how Shannahan thinks.

And before you sprout out about the "Browncos" thing. They helped us to the second ranks defense in '05 and into the AFC Championship. I know we are in the age of the interweb and all and our attention span is that of a flee, but try to have a little perspective.

[Willynowei]

This organization is going down the ****ter.

[elsid13]

Like I said Im prolly just a bit pissy today but damn Shannys history would seem to indicate he puts ZERO value on DT's

When aren't you a little prissy ??? (;D)

But we need to let this process work it way out. We going to look for rotation guy that can Denver 20 to 25 spans a game. No stars but that seem to way this off season

Guys like
Tim Anderson (ATL) connection to DL coach
Russell Davis (SEA) older but big body
Grady Jackson (ATL/JAX) connection to DL coach
Kindal Moorehead (CAR)

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

This organization is going down the ****ter.

Well then why are you here?

[Willynowei]

Well then why are you here?

b/c I'm not a fair weather fan.

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

b/c I'm not a fair weather fan.

Why is this team $hit?

[Kaylore]

Can this guy pass a physical? He is probably going to be a camp body and that's it.

[DenverBrit]

Can this guy pass a physical? He is probably going to be a camp body and that's it.
I can't imagine he's anything more..........and he's visiting, not signing.

But that won't stop some of the 'WTF'?? 'OMG'!!! drama queens. Ha!

[Atlas]

Can this guy pass a physical? He is probably going to be a camp body and that's it.

You don't sign camp fodder in March. If Shanny signs him he expects Roye to come in and compete for a roster spot.

[Kaylore]

I can't imagine he's anything more..........and he's visiting, not signing.

But that won't stop some of the 'WTF'?? 'OMG'!!! drama queens. Ha!

Well I will say if we do sign him, I promise it will not be the demise of the Denver Broncos. Going out on a limb, I know...

ou don't sign camp fodder in March. If Shanny signs him he expects Roye to come in and compete for a roster spot.
I know he might expect that, but this move looks like Sam Adams except with less talent.

[Hotrod]

I really think the point is being missed here. Nobody thinks signing this guy will destroy the team or even ruin the season.

We do however think that were wasting time and see very little hope at the end of the tunnel. Shanny has a track record of throwing crap onto the field and calling it his DT's. Its a losing formula which I for one would love to see changed.

[Atlas]

Well I will say if we do sign him, I promise it will not be the demise of the Denver Broncos. Going out on a limb, I know...


I know he might expect that, but this move looks like Sam Adams except with less talent.

I agree, but Shanny didn't sign Adams to be camp fodder. The same can be said for Roye. If he signs Shanny thinks he'll be able to contribute.

[cmhargrove]

The word out of Dove Valley is that they are bringing him in to check him out as a place kicker, not a DT. They are looking for a stop gap replacement for Elam, and they think Roye has all the tools.

Seriously, have you even seen a 350 pound guy kick the ball? Dude....

[fontaine]

With all due respect, Darwin Walker is no better at this stage of his career. He sat out 5 games with Duh Bears last year and they cut him loose after trading a 4th rounder to get him before TC or PS last year.

Tommie Harris had to play with nagging injuries because Walker wouldn't go.

Not much better? From 2002-2006 he totalled 26 sacks. He's a classic interior rusher who was asked to play as a blocking NT for Chicago when they had injuries instead of collapsing the pocket. And he's 30 and one year removed from a great season.

Don't get me wrong, at no point in time am I saying that Walker, Scott, Triplett etc are studs. They're not. But they're average to decent players that would be a big upgrade over what we have right now.

But nevermind, Sam Adams, Orpheus Roye what's the difference. Different year same story.

[fontaine]

Guys WTF. He's a warm body. Not the answer. Do you really think that Shannahan thinks he is the answer. Thats all he is "a warm body". Remember in training camp the roster is 85 men. There will be a lot of cuts to get down to the 53 man roster spots.

That's hilarious. A 35 year old with busted knees in high altitude is a warm body for training camp?

The guy will barely hold up for one a day, nevermind two.

[BroncoBuff]

The Broncos need a vet DT. Roye would be good for a year. Maybe not as good as Booger but he is cheaper and will sign a 1 year deal.
Word.

But why a damaged goods Methuselah like Orpheus Roye? Both Larry Tripplett and Michael Myers are available, veterans, healthy, and would sign for at or near the veteran minimum salary level.

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

That's hilarious. A 35 year old with busted knees in high altitude is a warm body for training camp?

The guy will barely hold up for one a day, nevermind two.

Then why is evertbody os worried? I'd be more worried if he stuck on and nobody could beat him out.

[broncosteven]

Not much better? From 2002-2006 he totalled 26 sacks. He's a classic interior rusher who was asked to play as a blocking NT for Chicago when they had injuries instead of collapsing the pocket. And he's 30 and one year removed from a great season.

Don't get me wrong, at no point in time am I saying that Walker, Scott, Triplett etc are studs. They're not. But they're average to decent players that would be a big upgrade over what we have right now.

But nevermind, Sam Adams, Orpheus Roye what's the difference. Different year same story.

He didn't suit up for the last 3 games of the year.

Anyway...

I wouldn't be picking up DT trash from the FA trash pile, I would consider trading for a quality guy with upside. Otherwise I prefer they wait for draft and June 1st cuts and decide then.

[Inkana7]

Word.

But why a damaged goods Methuselah like Orpheus Roye? Both Larry Tripplett and Michael Myers are available, veterans, healthy, and would sign for at or near the veteran minimum salary level.

Your obsession with Myers is starting to worry me.

[broncosteven]

Your obsession with Myers is starting to worry me.

Not any more disturbing than the fact that BB READS MY MIND!

[fontaine]

Then why is evertbody os worried? I'd be more worried if he stuck on and nobody could beat him out.

Sam Adams.

That's why everybody's worried. He practiced once a day and was given days off every week in camp to "save" him for the regular season.

We saved him allright. Saved him for the waiver wire while the team was up sh*t creek.

[BroncoInferno]

Sam Adams.

That's why everybody's worried. He practiced once a day and was given days off every week in camp to "save" him for the regular season.

We saved him allright. Saved him for the waiver wire while the team was up sh*t creek.

The difference is that Sam Adams had been very successful as a mercenary under those same working conditions well into his 30s. It was not entirely unreasonable to think that he would be effective for us with limited snaps. Roye is a couple of seasons removed from productivity. If we sign him, it will be for nothing other than a look-see. Seriously, people, Shanny does not always make the right decisions, but he is not quite as stupid as you seem to think. Some logic goes into his thought process, even if things don't necessarily work out as hoped.

[eddie mac]

I'd give Roye $1m if he can get off the field between downs.Ha!

[Atlas]

Word.

But why a damaged goods Methuselah like Orpheus Roye? Both Larry Tripplett and Michael Myers are available, veterans, healthy, and would sign for at or near the veteran minimum salary level.

Who says he is damaged goods? Maybe he has had 2 years off is fully recovered and ready to go?

[BroncoBuff]

Your obsession with Myers is starting to worry me.
I'm a fatso addict, who just kicked a heavy Kris Jenkins habit.

This Myers thing is what's called a relapse. :puff:

[Malcontent]

HEY!!!

Spideys' back!!!

Whassup Spide? Hows the rig runnin'?

[azbroncfan]

Here we go again.....

Free Agent DT Orpheus Roye will meet with the Broncos on Friday.
Roye is 35 years old, and has struggled with knee issues for the past two seasons. He should only be counted to add depth to the interior of the Broncos' line.

Now here is a guy who is a perfect fit for the shanny plan. He is old, injury ridden and once a pretty good player.

[BroncoBuff]

Not any more disturbing than the fact that BB READS MY MIND!
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7924/colberthypmotizedly4.jpg
Look DEEP into my eyes...

[27atwater]

Rod Coleman, Larry Tripplett or Darwin Walker

I didn't mind the lower budget LBs, cuz they are at least young and athletic, but Roye? C'mon Shanny...

[Punisher]

Oh some old guy with knee issues looks like a bronco to me sign him :)

[skunk]

is sam adams available?

i want more fat ****s who cant breathe.

who is the fattest **** around that cant breathe? can we buy him a train ticket so he doesnt have to kill innocent air passengers?

[BroncoBuff]

We could draft Frank Okam ... an Austin paper says he's pushing 360 hmmm...

[e-mac]

360 typo there broncobuff

[BroncoBuff]

Sorry ... I fixed it.

[~Crash~]

No kidding. And even the casual fan should at least remember a name like that.

we been trying to land this guy every year he has been a FA.....so yes most fans should know this guy...

[Popps]

You show 'em, Mikey! No one's going to tell you what to do, right buddy?

So the past decade of signing washed up slobs like this hasn't panned out for you and you've taken criticism. Big deal. You'll show them!

So, sure... almost every single championship team including your own (back when we were all using dial-up modems) have had a dominant or at least effective defensive line containing high draft picks and big salaried players.
But you're TOO SMART for that. You're Mike ****ing Shanahan. You're the genius! You don't need any young, talented and/or established d-linemen. You'll do it YOUR way... scrubs, old fat guys and practice squad players.

Plus, you just drafted a couple of linemen high last year. That should cover you for at least a decade. That's how long it had been since you last did so.

Great job, Shanny. You're living proof that there's no need to ever learn from your mistakes.

[OABB]

this thread is awesome. the guy hasn't even signed, and has yet to even visit, and there are four pages complaining about what a mistake we made with this guy.

I love this site.

[Popps]

this thread is awesome. the guy hasn't even signed, and has yet to even visit, and there are four pages complaining about what a mistake we made with this guy.

I love this site.

Just give it time, my friend. He'll sign, or we'll get beat out for his services by an AAFL team, at which time we'll go to our plan B... which is to promote someone from the practice squad.

If that doesn't work out, we just drive down to Home Deopt and pick up a truckload of those dudes standing out there looking for work. One of them is bound to blow up.

[OABB]

Just give it time, my friend. He'll sign, or we'll get beat out for his services by an AAFL team, at which time we'll go to our plan B... which is to promote someone from the practice squad.

If that doesn't work out, we just drive down to Home Deopt and pick up a truckload of those dudes standing out there looking for work. One of them is bound to blow up.

lol! it is funny though when you think about it. Free agency is very strange. sometimes a guy left for dead has a resurgence, and sometimes a big name FA busts under a new system.

it is impossible to tell how someone will fair with a new team.

I mean if you play the odds, an older oft injured guy most likely won't have a big year, but, in the right scenario, anyone can perform.

I am not for this move by any means, but it just seems a bit premature to freak out about someone not signed you know?

[Popps]

I am not for this move by any means, but it just seems a bit premature to freak out about someone not signed you know?

Look, if we didn't freak out about stuff like this, there would be no need for this message board.

Don't confuse this board with anything useful or logical.

[BroncoBuff]

this thread is awesome. the guy hasn't even signed, and has yet to even visit, and there are four pages complaining about what a mistake we made with this guy.

I love this site.
^5 :~ohyah!:

[BroncoBuff]

Sam Adams.
Good idea. I picked up 12 Sam Adams's last night, and they've performed very well so far.

[Hotrod]

You show 'em, Mikey! No one's going to tell you what to do, right buddy?

So the past decade of signing washed up slobs like this hasn't panned out for you and you've taken criticism. Big deal. You'll show them!

So, sure... almost every single championship team including your own (back when we were all using dial-up modems) have had a dominant or at least effective defensive line containing high draft picks and big salaried players.
But you're TOO SMART for that. You're Mike ****ing Shanahan. You're the genius! You don't need any young, talented and/or established d-linemen. You'll do it YOUR way... scrubs, old fat guys and practice squad players.

Plus, you just drafted a couple of linemen high last year. That should cover you for at least a decade. That's how long it had been since you last did so.

Great job, Shanny. You're living proof that there's no need to ever learn from your mistakes.

Hotrod endorses this post

I'm personally losing faith in Shanny

This move just shows Mike refuses to learn. I think he is a Great coach but a pretty ****ty personnel man

[Hotrod]

Good idea. I picked up 12 Sam Adams's last night, and they've performed very well so far.


LOL

[epicSocialism4tw]

Just give it time, my friend. He'll sign, or we'll get beat out for his services by an AAFL team, at which time we'll go to our plan B... which is to promote someone from the practice squad.

If that doesn't work out, we just drive down to Home Deopt and pick up a truckload of those dudes standing out there looking for work. One of them is bound to blow up.

:rofl: :thumbsup:

angryllama approves this message. ;D

[listopencil]

You show 'em, Mikey! No one's going to tell you what to do, right buddy?

So the past decade of signing washed up slobs like this hasn't panned out for you and you've taken criticism. Big deal. You'll show them!

So, sure... almost every single championship team including your own (back when we were all using dial-up modems) have had a dominant or at least effective defensive line containing high draft picks and big salaried players.
But you're TOO SMART for that. You're Mike ****ing Shanahan. You're the genius! You don't need any young, talented and/or established d-linemen. You'll do it YOUR way... scrubs, old fat guys and practice squad players.

Plus, you just drafted a couple of linemen high last year. That should cover you for at least a decade. That's how long it had been since you last did so.

Great job, Shanny. You're living proof that there's no need to ever learn from your mistakes.

Yep. This year we might not have Bates trying to explain how we're going to condition a 15/25 snap rotation guy into a 30/50 snap starter, I wonder who the scapegoat will be? If we sign Roye and he doesn't pan out we can always fire the DC and trade the QB again.

[OABB]

i think I understand now.

If we sign Roye, the whole team is destroyed.

o.k., I thought you guys were overreacting at first, but now I see it.

please shanny, don't sign this guy, It will mean the end of a competitive season. The holy structure that is the denver broncos house of cards will tumble to the ground in a fiery display of failure and destruction.

[chrisp]

We need a vet or two to add to the rotation - I am convinced there will be at least one first-day pick this year at the DT position, but we need to give those guys some time to develop.

If we can just upgrade the DTs from godawful to OK this year the defense as a whole will make strides. The big-money DTs this year all came with question marks as big as the contracts they were after and we've been burned by that too many times in the past.

Solid if unspectacular vets to cover for a year or two while this and last year's high draft picks continue to develop would be a sound recipie for success IMHO.

I also think that the Broncos now realise that if we want to address an area of weakness through the draft we do it with MULTIPLE HIGH picks. We tried to address the D-line with multiple picks in 2003 but none of them higher than the 4th round and that went down in history as oneof the worst drafts ever....I think that contrary to what is sometimes said around here shanny DOES learn from his mistakes.