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backup qb
03-05-2008, 07:56 PM
Anyone see this? Broncos reportedly have interest in G Jake Scott from Colts. Get it done Shanny!
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/mar/05/broncos-trying-land-bailey-mccree/
eddie mac
03-05-2008, 08:13 PM
Anyone see this? Broncos reportedly have interest in G Jake Scott from Colts. Get it done Shanny!
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/mar/05/broncos-trying-land-bailey-mccree/
If he comes in it probably means Kuper moves to RT.
yerner
03-05-2008, 08:14 PM
From Scouts,Inc...
Jake Scott | G
Scott is a decent athlete with long arms, good size and a mean streak, which helps him overachieve in the NFL. Scott can be classified as an intelligent player who knows how to use his technique to get him out of a jam. He can bend his knees at times but he doesnt sustain it as the play goes on. He will raise his pad level higher than his opponent, which leaves him at a disadvantage. Scott isnt going to maul anyone off the ball, but he understands angles and has good enough body lean to sustain a block long enough for the ball carrier to get by. He has good hands and punches in pass protection usually hitting his target. Scott can kick slide adequately and when he gets his pads and shoulders back, he will win one-on-one. He needs to be close to perfect a lot in his technique or else he can get pushed around in pass protection. Scott is a good player who is capable of being effective in the NFL.
enjolras
03-05-2008, 08:20 PM
THAT would be a nearly perfect offseason move. That guy is a baller.
DBroncos4life
03-05-2008, 08:25 PM
what does that mean for Holland?
oubronco
03-05-2008, 08:27 PM
what does that mean for Holland?
to right tackle if I was guessing
montrose
03-05-2008, 08:36 PM
I'd LOVE to bring in Scott if Holland wasn't already our best OL and they play the same position. I'd think we learned our lesson in moving players out of position.
yerner
03-05-2008, 08:36 PM
More Info...
<TABLE style="WIDTH: 100%"><TBODY><TR class=tablesm vAlign=top><TD>Full Name: Jake Scott
Born: April 16, 1981 Lewiston, ID
Height: 6-5
Weight: 295 lbs.
</TD><TD>Age: 26
Pos: G
Experience: 4 years
College: Idaho
Drafted: Year:2004 Round:5 Pick:9, Colts
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
2KBack
03-05-2008, 08:52 PM
the article posted over in the Boss Baily thread by Elsid13 mentions that Scott has some experience at RT.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/new...bailey-mccree/ (http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/mar/05/broncos-trying-land-bailey-mccree/)
2KBack
03-05-2008, 08:53 PM
well ****, that's the same article isn't it. Nevermind
Killericon
03-05-2008, 09:07 PM
**** Yes.
broncofan7
03-05-2008, 09:11 PM
Scott would be a perfect pickup---young, exeprienced and techincally sound, especially if he could play left guard (I am not counting on Hamilton lasting next year and he would be an obvious upgrade over Kuper). This is the type of value signing I really was looking forward to seeing---let's get'er done!
elsid13
03-05-2008, 09:12 PM
the article posted over in the Boss Baily thread by Elsid13 mentions that Scott has some experience at RT.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/new...bailey-mccree/ (http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/mar/05/broncos-trying-land-bailey-mccree/)
I was trying to keep the board clean and use existing thread ;D
this move make sense if the Scott or Kuper are moving to RT. Else I don't understand it
Dedhed
03-05-2008, 09:12 PM
I'd LOVE to bring in Scott if Holland wasn't already our best OL and they play the same position. I'd think we learned our lesson in moving players out of position.
The guard spots on the OL are probably the most easily interchangable of any on the field. You face up against the same type of player regardless. It's not like RT and LT where the type of DE you face changes drastically.
Kaylore
03-05-2008, 09:25 PM
If he comes in it probably means Kuper moves to RT.
I'm guessing left.
Ok actually I know it's left because the staff told him to get ready playing over there. There, I said it.
2KBack
03-05-2008, 09:29 PM
I'm guessing left.
Ok actually I know it's left because the staff told him to get ready playing over there. There, I said it.
what what WHAT?
phibacka31
03-05-2008, 09:29 PM
Yes PLEASE explain Kaylore
BroncoBuff
03-05-2008, 09:31 PM
Paging Slap ... paging Slap ...
He will like this move.
TheChamp24
03-05-2008, 09:34 PM
I like it, if anything would improve the depth on the OL.
elsid13
03-05-2008, 09:46 PM
I'm guessing left.
Ok actually I know it's left because the staff told him to get ready playing over there. There, I said it.
WR in the first here we come!
montrose
03-05-2008, 10:21 PM
The guard spots on the OL are probably the most easily interchangable of any on the field. You face up against the same type of player regardless. It's not like RT and LT where the type of DE you face changes drastically.
I played G in high school and college on both sides. It's one of the easier positions to interchange, but that doesn't mean its a piece of cake. You've got to put a different hand down, get used to taking different steps and (in the NFL) your seeing a lot of new DT's. It's certainly not out of the question, but if we're going to spend some money on OL, I'd prefer to use it on the bookends.
SureShot
03-05-2008, 10:29 PM
I'm guessing left.
Ok actually I know it's left because the staff told him to get ready playing over there. There, I said it.
wow
theAPAOps5
03-05-2008, 10:32 PM
Kaylor you can't crop dust like that. Give details in a PM if you have to.
rovolution
03-05-2008, 10:42 PM
I'm guessing left.
Ok actually I know it's left because the staff told him to get ready playing over there. There, I said it.
please elaborate if you wouldnt mind
Requiem
03-05-2008, 10:43 PM
Kaylore you gotta kiss and tell. In da Pooper Kuper is LT?
Broncojef
03-05-2008, 10:44 PM
It must be frustrating seeing post after post of bad info and guys making stretches as to whats going on when you are sitting on real info huh Kaylore? Its OK let it all out, whats our line really going to look like? I'd love to see this kid come in and just be a part of our line as I really don't like anyone outside of Nalen.
It's been hinted since the season ended that Kuper would get a shot at tackle. More likely right tackle with Pears and Harris battling for left tackle.
I still feel that if a tackle falls to Denver at 12 it's going to be the selection.
Raider Bill
03-05-2008, 10:47 PM
The guard spots on the OL are probably the most easily interchangable of any on the field. You face up against the same type of player regardless. It's not like RT and LT where the type of DE you face changes drastically.
In the NFL most offenses are "right handed" and line up strong to the right so the left guard is going to have a 3 technique shading his outside shoulder and the right guard is going to be uncovered with a NT in 0 or 1 technique vs a typical 4-3 under defense.
epicSocialism4tw
03-05-2008, 10:48 PM
Good news.
Scott is both young and experienced.
Jens1893
03-05-2008, 10:51 PM
It's been hinted since the season ended that Kuper would get a shot at tackle. More likely right tackle with Pears and Harris battling for left tackle.
I still feel that if a tackle falls to Denver at 12 it's going to be the selection.
That scares me.
Broncojef
03-05-2008, 10:54 PM
It's been hinted since the season ended that Kuper would get a shot at tackle. More likely right tackle with Pears and Harris battling for left tackle.
I still feel that if a tackle falls to Denver at 12 it's going to be the selection.
God I hope you are right. If we got this Scott kid and added Clady or Williams LT I'd be ecstatic. We need a dominate OL again not just the fairly serviceable crap we've seen of late. Protect Jay and lets rock.
Broncojef
03-05-2008, 10:56 PM
That scares me.
Pears and Harris in a starting role should worry us all.
Jens1893
03-05-2008, 10:57 PM
Pears and Harris in a starting role should worry us all.
Especially at LT protecting Cutlerīs back ...
That scares me.
Pears started for Lepsis (10 games) in 2006, and Harris played his entire college career at LT.
I feel better with them at left tackle then a player that has played right guard in college and left gaurd last year.
Kuper is better suited for right tackle anyway. He and Holland can be a nasty punch on that right side of the running game.
The Jake Scott interest may be a sign that the Broncos staff want to get an insurance player. Just incase Ben Hamilton has a setback from the concussion.
epicSocialism4tw
03-05-2008, 11:10 PM
The Jake Scott interest may be a sign that the Broncos staff want to get an insurance player. Just incase Ben Hamilton has a setback from the concussion.
Or that they are getting ready for Hamilton to move over to Center.
epicSocialism4tw
03-05-2008, 11:14 PM
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We need some of this!
cmhargrove
03-06-2008, 09:33 AM
Pears started for Lepsis (10 games) in 2006, and Harris played his entire college career at LT.
I feel better with them at left tackle then a player that has played right guard in college and left gaurd last year.
Kuper is better suited for right tackle anyway. He and Holland can be a nasty punch on that right side of the running game.
Amen brother, preach it!
We are all giving up a little too early on Harris, and Pears played his best for us at LT. I think there is more hope here than we know (although competition is always good). It will be very, very interesting to see who our RT is at the start of the season.
However this thing shakes out, it will be nice to have some fierce competition, and good backups, on the O-line.
alkemical
03-06-2008, 09:41 AM
I think hamilton is done, IMO. I wouldn't count on him. This would be an excellent signing.
Killericon
03-06-2008, 09:48 AM
I would LOVE this guy to be on our team, but I'm pretty sure we should pursue some veteran depth at tackle as well.
cmhargrove
03-06-2008, 09:49 AM
I think hamilton is done, IMO. I wouldn't count on him. This would be an excellent signing.
Just a question, but what do you do with Kuper and Myers?
They are ready to renegotiate a contract with Myers (if he draws any interest from other teams), and he probably doesn't want to ride the pine after being a starter all last year.
Right now, people are willing to turn Kuper, Myers, Pears, and Harris all into backups? I thought the kids developed pretty well last year. I actually won't be very surprised if we wait until the fourth round to draft O-line (given the history of our team). I hope different, but our priorities and analyses are very different than the Broncos FO.
I agree, Hamilton is a question mark, but I don't know if you can take out our young developing players. These guys are actually making improvement. LT looks to be our biggest worry, that is where we could really use some experience. But, I thought Pears gave up as many blocks from the right as Lepsis did from the left last year, so re-working both Tackles has to be a priority.
Guard just doesn't seem like a team need at all.
alkemical
03-06-2008, 10:02 AM
Just a question, but what do you do with Kuper and Myers?
They are ready to renegotiate a contract with Myers (if he draws any interest from other teams), and he probably doesn't want to ride the pine after being a starter all last year.
Right now, people are willing to turn Kuper, Myers, Pears, and Harris all into backups? I thought the kids developed pretty well last year. I actually won't be very surprised if we wait until the fourth round to draft O-line (given the history of our team). I hope different, but our priorities and analyses are very different than the Broncos FO.
I agree, Hamilton is a question mark, but I don't know if you can take out our young developing players. These guys are actually making improvement. LT looks to be our biggest worry, that is where we could really use some experience. But, I thought Pears gave up as many blocks from the right as Lepsis did from the left last year, so re-working both Tackles has to be a priority.
Guard just doesn't seem like a team need at all.
Maybe some of our OL talent, isn't really talented. I think Pears is no more than backup material.
Dagmar
03-06-2008, 10:11 AM
See what you have done. SEE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE!
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!!!!!!!!!
oubronco
03-06-2008, 10:23 AM
Kaylore......paging Kaylore........we need more insight
vancejohnson82
03-06-2008, 10:30 AM
wow...an under-the-radar move that makes perfect sense...and no one is complaining?
what board am i on?
broncosteven
03-06-2008, 10:38 AM
See what you have done. SEE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE!
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!!!!!!!!!
Yours is the Superior Khan
PRBronco
03-06-2008, 12:14 PM
If we were to bring in Jake Scott (which probably means Hamilton is done), would Myers be an option at right tackle? He's got the size, I always thought he moved well, and he must be strong, he played well on the interior. I think that might be the best way to get our best 5 linemen (well, best 4, and then someone at LT ><) on the field.
*edit* Also, he played RT at the U.
Kaylore
03-06-2008, 01:50 PM
Woah, I'm really sorry guys. I made the post and went to bed. I have the flu right now and haven't been able to get online. I should have said more and apologize as I didn't think this would be as big a deal. I didn't consider the draft implications
Here's the lowdown: The staff has told Kuper that he can be a Bronco as long as he wants. They also told him recently that he wants to give Kuper a shot at playing left tackle this year and right now that's their intention. And since it's been mentioned, I know it wasn't their intention he play right tackle, though I suppose he could if they needed him to.
Now that said, we can extrapolate some things. We know that it doesn't mean he's necessarily going to start. They are going to make it a competition just like any position. We also know the staff has never started a rookie offensive lineman and they generally don't like drafting one on the first day. So the point is that we could draft a rookie tackle, but like Harris he probably wouldn't do more than special teams work the first year which would leave Kuper or whoever to bounce outside.
When you consider that the staff is looking at brining in free agent guards and not tackles, this really does make sense. It also points to a different draft selection then what everybody anticipates - which again is par for the course for the Broncos.
kmonty
03-06-2008, 01:55 PM
Thanks for the clarification Kaylore. I also think the interest in guard instead of tackle could have to do with their respective free agent markets right now.
A lot of people seem to be low on Harris here... while competition in training camp and OTAs will determine the lineup in the end, of course, I'm getting the impression from the season-ending presser and different news outlets that LT is Harris' spot to lose. Kuper at RT could be a nice fit.
BroncoMan4ever
03-06-2008, 01:59 PM
Scott would be a perfect pickup---young, exeprienced and techincally sound, especially if he could play left guard (I am not counting on Hamilton lasting next year and he would be an obvious upgrade over Kuper). This is the type of value signing I really was looking forward to seeing---let's get'er done!
youth and quality the perfect signing even if it costs a decent chunck of change plus he is a good pickup
55CrushEm
03-06-2008, 02:05 PM
Thanks for the clarification Kaylore. I also think the interest in guard instead of tackle could have to do with their respective free agent markets right now.
A lot of people seem to be low on Harris here... while competition in training camp and OTAs will determine the lineup in the end, of course, I'm getting the impression from the season-ending presser and different news outlets that LT is Harris' spot to lose. Kuper at RT could be a nice fit.
That's what I hope.....Harris at LT. I'd hate to think we spend a 3rd rounder on a career backup.
LT - Harris
LG - Scott (assuming we get him)
C - Nalen (replaced by Myers in a year or 2)
RG - Holland
RT - Pears/Kuper
MABroncoFan
03-06-2008, 02:05 PM
If we don't go tackle in the first round, and I can't think of any other than George Foster that we've drafted in the last 20 years that early, I'd guess we'd go DT if Ellis or Dorsey slipped, or perhaps DeSean Jackson since he would fill 2 holes - speed at WR and as kick returner.
Are there any other DTs we have interest in that early - Balmer perhaps?
I figure if we sign Boss, LB like Rivers wouldn't be a priority.
broncosteven
03-06-2008, 02:17 PM
If we don't go tackle in the first round, and I can't think of any other than George Foster that we've drafted in the last 20 years that early, I'd guess we'd go DT if Ellis or Dorsey slipped, or perhaps DeSean Jackson since he would fill 2 holes - speed at WR and as kick returner.
Are there any other DTs we have interest in that early - Balmer perhaps?
I figure if we sign Boss, LB like Rivers wouldn't be a priority.
I am guessing they trade down unless there is a stud surprise on the board.
Dos Rios
03-06-2008, 02:25 PM
Woah, I'm really sorry guys. I made the post and went to bed. I have the flu right now and haven't been able to get online. I should have said more and apologize as I didn't think this would be as big a deal. I didn't consider the draft implications
Here's the lowdown: The staff has told Kuper that he can be a Bronco as long as he wants. They also told him recently that he wants to give Kuper a shot at playing left tackle this year and right now that's their intention. And since it's been mentioned, I know it wasn't their intention he play right tackle, though I suppose he could if they needed him to.
Now that said, we can extrapolate some things. We know that it doesn't mean he's necessarily going to start. They are going to make it a competition just like any position. We also know the staff has never started a rookie offensive lineman and they generally don't like drafting one on the first day. So the point is that we could draft a rookie tackle, but like Harris he probably wouldn't do more than special teams work the first year which would leave Kuper or whoever to bounce outside.
When you consider that the staff is looking at brining in free agent guards and not tackles, this really does make sense. It also points to a different draft selection then what everybody anticipates - which again is par for the course for the Broncos.
I'm confused. My impression was that Kuper's strength is straight-ahead run blocking and that he's neither particularly nimble nor long-armed. Am I just mistaken on that/ If he moves outside, wouldn't RT make more sense? Maybe they want Kuper to be the jack-of-all trades backup at all 4 guard and tackle spots, but I'm shocked to think he could be in the running for the starting LT spot. Add to it that Pears seems more naturally suited to LT, which makes the need for depth at RT, not LT, seem more pressing.
Given that Cutler is the apparently the franchise for the next decade, starting LT should be the second most important roster slot on the team. Kuper to LT sounds a little like throwing stuff against the wall to see what sticks. Hope there's a little more clarity on the long-term protection of Cutler's blindside before training camp is over.
Dos Rios
03-06-2008, 02:32 PM
One other thought: how much of this Jake Scott talk and/or Kuper to tackle is related to contract questions with Myers? I thought Myers played really well last year and looked like a long-term interior keeper. I assume Myers would rather play center than guard (total wildass guess), but Nalen and Hamilton cloud that picture a bit.
Like the linebacking corps, I just hope they get their best players on the field in their natural positions and don't let contract posturing screw that up. That's how you end up with a Terry Pierce in the second round.
dsmoot
03-06-2008, 02:40 PM
Thanks for the clarification Kaylore. I also think the interest in guard instead of tackle could have to do with their respective free agent markets right now.
A lot of people seem to be low on Harris here... while competition in training camp and OTAs will determine the lineup in the end, of course, I'm getting the impression from the season-ending presser and different news outlets that LT is Harris' spot to lose. Kuper at RT could be a nice fit.
I wouldn't say anyone is low on Harris. Many of us are not going to praise him as the next coming of Gary Zimmerman or even George Foster until we ACTUALLY get to see him play.
Inkana7
03-06-2008, 03:08 PM
I'm confused. My impression was that Kuper's strength is straight-ahead run blocking and that he's neither particularly nimble nor long-armed. Am I just mistaken on that/ If he moves outside, wouldn't RT make more sense? Maybe they want Kuper to be the jack-of-all trades backup at all 4 guard and tackle spots, but I'm shocked to think he could be in the running for the starting LT spot. Add to it that Pears seems more naturally suited to LT, which makes the need for depth at RT, not LT, seem more pressing.
Given that Cutler is the apparently the franchise for the next decade, starting LT should be the second most important roster slot on the team. Kuper to LT sounds a little like throwing stuff against the wall to see what sticks. Hope there's a little more clarity on the long-term protection of Cutler's blindside before training camp is over.
Kuper played LT his Senior year at North Dakota. Junior Year too, IIRC. He's got the arms, not sure about the feet.
Los Broncos
03-06-2008, 03:10 PM
This would be a great move, get it done Mike.
want2bAbronco2
03-06-2008, 03:37 PM
I dont think I like Kuper at LT, maybe RT. Harris I would like to see what he can do, but would like to bring in a 2nd or 4th rnd LT Baker or guy from Clemson.
I love Nalen but after Myers had a yr playing I would be really sad if he didn't beat out a 14yr old guy. I don't think Nalen will start.
Kaylore
03-06-2008, 05:46 PM
Kuper played LT his Senior year at North Dakota. Junior Year too, IIRC. He's got the arms, not sure about the feet.
Yeah that's the thing. He's only played LT in div II and preseason games. That's not a great amount of experience there. I kind of agree with others who say his body type fits right tackle, but he's never played that position at all. We'll just have to see how it all pans out.
downpat75
03-06-2008, 06:08 PM
I'm new here, but just wanted to post as an admitted Vandal homer, that Jake Scott is the bomb. If he's good enough to protect Manning, he's good enough for Cutty. Go Broncos!
longtimer
03-06-2008, 06:20 PM
If we don't go tackle in the first round, and I can't think of any other than George Foster that we've drafted in the last 20 years that early, I'd guess we'd go DT if Ellis or Dorsey slipped, or perhaps DeSean Jackson since he would fill 2 holes - speed at WR and as kick returner.
Are there any other DTs we have interest in that early - Balmer perhaps?
I figure if we sign Boss, LB like Rivers wouldn't be a priority.
The only OL we drafted in the first round other than Foster that I remember is the one we trade to the Colts as part of the Elway deal.
If the FO/coaching staff seriously wants to turn Kuper into an LT, when his skillset best fits RT if any OT position AND our only two NFL level OTs are both natural LTs who show no signs of being able to cut it at RT, then I'm going to be seriously disapointed with the line we send out next fall.
Hell, if we just moved Kuper to RT and let Harris and Pears compete at LT I'll be disapionted, but I've been expecting that for the last few months and at least it has some long term potential to not suck.
I guess, seems to fit the new Dove Valley MO of putting your square pegs in round holes and round pegs in square holes. Give it a year or two and we'll be moving Cutler to safety and DJ at fullback. Hey, they've both done it before! (when they were 18.)
wolf754life
03-06-2008, 07:51 PM
i love the idea, get it done mike, another quality piece and anything to get rid of pears, 3 yrs, 12 million should get it done.
this is how you do it, now get it done. I am optimistic things may be changing out there, if bowlen really has cracked the whip!
Billy Clyde Puckett
03-06-2008, 09:46 PM
Both tackles played terrible and were hurt all last year and Harris was only on the field for two plays from scrimmage. One was when Lepsis lined up as a tackle eligible and the other was when Pears staggered off looking like a sailor coming our out of a Shanghia bar at 4 AM. they put Pears right back out there the next play. What makes people think Harris even makes the team this year other than the smoke the coaches are blowing.
27atwater
03-06-2008, 09:58 PM
I think Shanny is doing his best to make trading up for a DT more pallatable. If we simply jumped to #8 ahead of Cincy and New Orleans, we could land 1 of the DTs now that NYJ, Miami and others have dealt w/ their DT spots. The point difference is 200 (or a mid 3rd rounder). I think w/ Baltimore's issues at CB right now, swapping picks and giving em Foxxy and a 2009 4th rounder MAY get it done.
Liquid Courage
03-07-2008, 01:33 PM
link (http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080306/SPORTS03/803060487/1058/SPORTS03)
sorry if this is old info, but it doesn't appear our signing of Mr. Scott is anywhere near a slam dunk at this point. does anyone know of his planned visits aside from the Titans?
[posted yesterday in the above link]
Guard Jake Scott and defensive end Josh Thomas, unrestricted free agents who played for the Indianapolis Colts last season, visited with the Tennessee Titans.
dsmoot
03-07-2008, 02:24 PM
I'm confused. My impression was that Kuper's strength is straight-ahead run blocking and that he's neither particularly nimble nor long-armed. Am I just mistaken on that/ If he moves outside, wouldn't RT make more sense? Maybe they want Kuper to be the jack-of-all trades backup at all 4 guard and tackle spots, but I'm shocked to think he could be in the running for the starting LT spot. Add to it that Pears seems more naturally suited to LT, which makes the need for depth at RT, not LT, seem more pressing.
Given that Cutler is the apparently the franchise for the next decade, starting LT should be the second most important roster slot on the team. Kuper to LT sounds a little like throwing stuff against the wall to see what sticks. Hope there's a little more clarity on the long-term protection of Cutler's blindside before training camp is over.
None of our current group of OL draftees have won a job by beating someone out. In the last two years, they stepped in because of injuries only. A big difference in circumstances and what you can say about the long term stability of the OL.
BroncoBuff
03-07-2008, 04:08 PM
A lot of people seem to be low on Harris here... while competition in training camp and OTAs will determine the lineup in the end, of course, I'm getting the impression from the season-ending presser and different news outlets that LT is Harris' spot to lose. Kuper at RT could be a nice fit.
Bingo, bingo and bingo. :thumbsup:
But I'm not so sure bringing Scott in here (we cannot afford him :nono:) means we're looking at guards and not tackles ... I think that's taking too meaning from one visit.
Khan, you're intimating you have some inside source, do you? Because there's no way I see Kuper as a LT in this league ... they didn't even insert him at LG when Hamilton went down - they chose Myers (whom they're not as enamored with as we thought: they low tendered him, and he's p!ssed). My guess is Ryan Harris will be given every chance to start at LT, with Pears the fallback option for both OT spots. Kuper to RT seems perfect ... I've been pimping that move for months.
chrisp
03-07-2008, 05:13 PM
Yeah that's the thing. He's only played LT in div II and preseason games. That's not a great amount of experience there. I kind of agree with others who say his body type fits right tackle, but he's never played that position at all. We'll just have to see how it all pans out.
I, like many others here still remember you creaming your shorts over Kuper from day one. I also remember some buzz when we drafted him that we had something of a late-round steal (a Broncos speciality on the O-line!).
This of course now has me believing that he can walk on water so any position on the O-line should be a doddle. Could you do me a favour and remind us all what specific things about him are the cause for enthusiasm? I need to try an inject a dose of reality into my assessment.......:wiggle:
Dos Rios
03-07-2008, 05:18 PM
Bingo, bingo and bingo. :thumbsup:
But I'm not so sure bringing Scott in here (we cannot afford him :nono:) means we're looking at guards and not tackles ... I think that's taking too meaning from one visit.
Khan, you're intimating you have some inside source, do you? Because there's no way I see Kuper as a LT in this league ... they didn't even insert him at LG when Hamilton went down - they chose Myers (whom they're not as enamored with as we thought: they low tendered him, and he's p!ssed). My guess is Ryan Harris will be given every chance to start at LT, with Pears the fallback option for both OT spots. Kuper to RT seems perfect ... I've been pimping that move for months.
This part I can't understand. To my uneducated eye, Myers looked very solid last year, making that transition from developmental project to vet. To follow up on the prior poster's point, this OL is in need of long-term continuity, particularly with the rocks of the past - Nalen, Lepsis and Hamilton - all either gone or short timers. Most successful OLs have at least a core that stays in place 6-8 years at a pop. When I think of who will still be on this OL 3-5 years from now, Myers is the first name I think of, with Kuper a close second. The low tender means the team either disagrees or is getting cute with contract negotiations.
Sassy
03-07-2008, 06:05 PM
Where are the "Chris'" dads when we need them?
Kaylore
03-07-2008, 06:21 PM
I, like many others here still remember you creaming your shorts over Kuper from day one. I also remember some buzz when we drafted him that we had something of a late-round steal (a Broncos speciality on the O-line!).
This of course now has me believing that he can walk on water so any position on the O-line should be a doddle. Could you do me a favour and remind us all what specific things about him are the cause for enthusiasm? I need to try an inject a dose of reality into my assessment.......:wiggle:
Holland out-played Kuper in pass protection. Kuper was a little better in the run game. You kind of got a taste toward the end of the season when he and Myers starting working well together. Chris did much better in pass protection at left tackle in the preseason last year - but that's preseason second team whereas he played first team guys when they used him at guard. He might slide in and just be a career guard here. He might move to tackle and be successful. Or he might not start but be one of those utility guys they keep on the team because he can fill in up and down the line. I think Kuper has the size and talent to start in the NFL and succeed. The key is if he can put it all together upstairs and eliminate the mental errors. We'll just have to see.
SureShot
03-07-2008, 07:01 PM
Atleat at the tackle position we won't have to worry about him pulling into Cutler.
elsid13
03-07-2008, 07:04 PM
Bingo, bingo and bingo. :thumbsup:
But I'm not so sure bringing Scott in here (we cannot afford him :nono:) means we're looking at guards and not tackles ... I think that's taking too meaning from one visit.
Khan, you're intimating you have some inside source, do you? Because there's no way I see Kuper as a LT in this league ... they didn't even insert him at LG when Hamilton went down - they chose Myers (whom they're not as enamored with as we thought: they low tendered him, and he's p!ssed). My guess is Ryan Harris will be given every chance to start at LT, with Pears the fallback option for both OT spots. Kuper to RT seems perfect ... I've been pimping that move for months.
OK were are you getting the stuff in bold??? Just because the tender him at at that level doesn't mean that they don't like him or don't expect him not to be on the team long term. Myers was UDFA and the team is managing the cap to ensure that it has the best bang for the buck based upon perceived market conditions.
Corrected as someone pointed out to me he was DRAFTED in the 6th. My bad.
rugbythug
03-10-2008, 10:43 AM
TITANS SNAG SCOTT
After an all-too-quiet start to free agency, the Tennessee Titans (http://profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm#) have helped fill a hole on their offensive line by creating one for a division rival.
According to the Tennessean, the Titans have agreed to terms with starting Colts guard Jake Scott (http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080310/SPORTS01/803100376/1002/SPORTS). The contract will average just under $5 million per year.
Scott, a fifth-round draft pick of the Colts in 2004, started 55 games in Indy over the past three seasons. He fills the vacancy created by Jacob Bell, who left for the Rams last week
LonghornBronco
03-10-2008, 12:24 PM
Is'nt this a high price???
Is'nt this a high price???
not if you think he is going to continue to develop and become a probowl guard for the next ten years...
backup qb
03-10-2008, 02:50 PM
damn. Wanted to see him here. Oh well, maybe it weakens Manning's invincible front 5.
Los Broncos
03-10-2008, 02:51 PM
Dam, couldn't land him.
Sassy
03-10-2008, 05:43 PM
that sucks...he sounded like a good deal.
epicSocialism4tw
03-10-2008, 10:57 PM
Cool deal for the Titans...he's an ideal guard for Vince Young.
Punisher
03-10-2008, 11:06 PM
Damn that would of been a great pick up...Now hopefully we trade up for Jake Long or McFadden