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HEAV
03-03-2008, 09:52 AM
NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports the Broncos have signed LB Niko Koutouvides to a three-year, $7.5 million contract.

Popcorn Sutton
03-03-2008, 09:55 AM
Well, he does have a cool name...

Killericon
03-03-2008, 09:56 AM
*Sigh*

At least he's only 26.

Killericon
03-03-2008, 10:04 AM
Assets
<!--end relatedCap--> A big hitter who loves to fill the hole. Stacks well and holds the point of attack against blockers. Has great instincts and play recognition skills. Sniffs out screens and play action and won't get out of position. Has all the intangibles and a top work ethic.

<!--end relatedLinksGrad-->
<!--end relatedThird--> Flaws

<!--end relatedCap--> Slow. Not a top athlete. Doesn't have superior size and may get pushed around at the pro level. Doesn't shed well when the play isn't in front of him.

<!--end relatedLinksGrad-->
<!--end relatedThird--> Career potential

<!--end relatedCap--> Long-range prospect.
<!--end relatedLinksGrad-->

Popcorn Sutton
03-03-2008, 10:07 AM
An old interview with him at Seahawks headquarters:

http://www.seahawks.com/media/hawks1236.asx

He at least seems like a high character guy which is a welcome change.

broncofan2438
03-03-2008, 10:12 AM
Super Bowl

montrose
03-03-2008, 10:13 AM
Good special teamer and depth, hopefully we'll get more from him than our last Seattle LB, the hardly seen DD Lewis. Assuming the Broncos wrap up Boss on Wednesday, we're likely set at LB until the draft with DJ, Winborn, Boss, Niko, Webster and Green.

SleepingTiger
03-03-2008, 10:14 AM
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Killericon
03-03-2008, 10:15 AM
After sitting on it for a while, I think I like this signing.

ColoradoBuff
03-03-2008, 10:19 AM
eh....i don't know what to think yet. The Post says he will most likely compete for the MLB job if/when we move DJ back to WLB.

-Slap-
03-03-2008, 10:20 AM
People are going to like this guy. He's a legitimate special teams demon. He's also good enough to start for some teams as a Mike, but Lofa Tatupu owns the middle in Seattle.

backup qb
03-03-2008, 10:25 AM
I am all for the ST help. I guess this means DJ does move back outside? If so, unleash him then.

vancejohnson82
03-03-2008, 10:27 AM
People are going to like this guy. He's a legitimate special teams demon. He's also good enough to start for some teams as a Mike, but Lofa Tatupu owns the middle in Seattle.


so is this the upgrade over Gold? Or is he really expected to take over DJs spot in the middle?

montrose
03-03-2008, 10:39 AM
so is this the upgrade over Gold? Or is he really expected to take over DJs spot in the middle?

Not necessarily. Think more along the lines of the Winborn signing. A guy who can make an immediate impact on special teams and may compete for a spot on defense.

Gcver2ver3
03-03-2008, 10:41 AM
people may laugh at the signing but i like the approach Denver is taking...

bargain basement FAs...

they'll come over achieve...

we don't need a star at every posotion...

one stud at each level of the defense (seconadary,LB,Dline) surrounded by overachieving role players in a good system = success IMO...

same on offense...

i'm willing to be patient to see how this plays out...

this reminds me of how we did things in the 96,97,98...

Bronco Jamus
03-03-2008, 10:44 AM
I agree. I like this better than making headlines with the flavor of the moment.

wolf754life
03-03-2008, 10:47 AM
if this guy starts we are in BIG BIG trouble.........

ND Bronco Fan
03-03-2008, 10:55 AM
my question is...........are we in a better position with Winborn at WLB and DJ at Middle or this guy at Middle and DJ at weak with Winborn on bench.

Gcver2ver3
03-03-2008, 10:57 AM
if this guy starts we are in BIG BIG trouble.........

If this guy starts then it means he beat everybody else in training camp...

that's not always a bad thing...

i bet people thought we were in "BIG BIG trouble" when an undrafted WR beat out all our vets for a starting spot...(Rod Smith)

i bet people thought we were in "BIG BIG trouble" when a 6th round draft choice beat out our vets for a starting RB spot...(Terrell Davis)

so instead of making assumptions...lets just wait and see what happens...

wolf754life
03-03-2008, 11:11 AM
what happens???

if he starts, and guys like him start, 4 and 12 happens!

This guy has 2 starts in 4 yrs...............UGH............

TheReverend
03-03-2008, 11:13 AM
if this guy starts we are in BIG BIG trouble.........

so... you're opposed to the flashy moves and the low key ones...

i'm just curious if there's ANY logic to your hatred?

wolf754life
03-03-2008, 11:19 AM
I prefer quality players, not bums.

Popcorn Sutton
03-03-2008, 11:22 AM
I prefer quality players, not bums.

Niko is a quality player. Is he Lance Briggs on the field? No, but he is not a bum. He has been behind one of the better MLB's in Lofa Tatupu... Give the guy a chance to prove himself... Let's see how it plays out before you start calling the guy a bum. Damn.

vancejohnson82
03-03-2008, 11:24 AM
this guy is a dork....if anything this makes it apparent that we will be drafting a LB on the first day

PRBronco
03-03-2008, 11:29 AM
so is this the upgrade over Gold? Or is he really expected to take over DJs spot in the middle?

I saw a homeless person on the weekend fumbling around on the ground because he dropped his crack rocks, i also believe he was sitting next to a puddle of piss. That guy was an upgrade over gold.

Crushaholic
03-03-2008, 11:34 AM
A 3-year contract must mean that Shanahan has faith this guy will produce on the field. I hope so...

vancejohnson82
03-03-2008, 11:35 AM
I saw a homeless person on the weekend fumbling around on the ground because he dropped his crack rocks, i also believe he was sitting next to a puddle of piss. That guy was an upgrade over gold.

I'm starting to think that the Colorado Crush might field a better defense than the Broncos this year

Niko, arriving at Dove Valley:

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cutlerfan
03-03-2008, 11:41 AM
What about Boss Baily??

Gcver2ver3
03-03-2008, 11:42 AM
what happens???

if he starts, and guys like him start, 4 and 12 happens!

This guy has 2 starts in 4 yrs...............UGH............

hello?

did you even read my Rod Smith/Terrell Davis reply?

if not read it...

and if so read it again...

montrose
03-03-2008, 11:44 AM
my question is...........are we in a better position with Winborn at WLB and DJ at Middle or this guy at Middle and DJ at weak with Winborn on bench.

Of those options, Winborn at weakside and DJ in the middle. That said, Denver could still draft a MLB - especially if they find a partner to trade down. Wabbit has reported that the Broncos are relatively happy with their LB corps. Assuming the Broncos sign Boss to play SAM, and don't draft a LB - they can go with DJ at Mike and Winborn at Sam or DJ at Will with Webster or Niko at Mike. We'll have to see how things shake up in the draft but with Niko, Webster, Winborn and Green - it looks like we have some decent depth.

vancejohnson82
03-03-2008, 11:45 AM
hello?

did you even read my Rod Smith/Terrell Davis reply?

if not read it...

and if so read it again...


the problem with your comparison is that Davis and Smith were given their first chance with the Broncos

this guy has already competed in a few camps, lost out and not picked up by his old employer....it seems to me that if he had the skills of a Rod Smith or Terrell Davis someone would have noticed it on the field in Seattle

no-pseudo-fan
03-03-2008, 11:47 AM
Assets
A big hitter who loves to fill the hole. Stacks well and holds the point of attack against blockers. Has great instincts and play recognition skills. Sniffs out screens and play action and won't get out of position. Has all the intangibles and a top work ethic.


Flaws

Slow. Not a top athlete. Doesn't have superior size and may get pushed around at the pro level. Doesn't shed well when the play isn't in front of him.


Career potential

Long-range prospect. <!--end relatedLinksGrad-->

Funny thing is when I read this I think of Ike Turner.:rofl:

Ratboy
03-03-2008, 11:55 AM
He'll push to start in the middle. DJ Williams is our WLB and he'll be great there. It's contract year too, DJ will end up getting paid.

NFLBRONCO
03-03-2008, 11:56 AM
Well at least we can remove LB from first 2 picks in 08 draft.

Bronco LB 59
03-03-2008, 12:00 PM
I loved this kid when he played at Purdue. He was a lunch pail guy. He never really got much of a chance to be a starter in Seattle. A definite upgrade.

Gcver2ver3
03-03-2008, 12:00 PM
the problem with your comparison is that Davis and Smith were given their first chance with the Broncos

this guy has already competed in a few camps, lost out and not picked up by his old employer....it seems to me that if he had the skills of a Rod Smith or Terrell Davis someone would have noticed it on the field in Seattle

you're overthinking this...

that's not the point..

the point is that at first glance those guys would've been considered bums by Wolf's logic...

nobody noticed Smith or Davis's talents either...

Jimmy Smith is a borderline HOF WR and he was on the Cowboys roster before being dumped...the same for Keeenan McCardell...

we need to wait and see...we don't know what the guy will do...for all we know he won't even make it out of camp...but that's not the point

wait and see, but this approach is refreshing...and i for one am glad to see it...

vancejohnson82
03-03-2008, 12:04 PM
you're overthinking this...

that's not the point..

the point is that at first glance those guys would've been considered bums by that guys logic...

nobody noticed Smith or Davis's talents either...

Jimmy Smith is a borderline HOF WR and he was on the Cowboys roster before being dumped...the same for Keeenan McCardell...

we need to wait and see...we don't know what the guy will do...for all we know he won't even make it out of camp...but that's not the point

wait and see, but this approach is refreshing...and i for one am glad to see it...


I find the approach interesting as well and I'm not hating on the pickup...i was just pointing out that if other people have a problem with it, its a bad comparision to bring up davis and smith becuase they proved their worth once the whistle blew in camp

this guy either a) wasn't given the chance because of Lofa or
b) never showed the skill set to warrant a re-signing

nontheless, if he can play in the middle it could really help us out

chaz
03-03-2008, 12:08 PM
What about Boss Bailey??

Bailey would be brought in to play SAM...so this signing doesn't affect him at all. If we sign Boss I think we have a unspectacular but very solid LB corps.


this guy has already competed in a few camps, lost out and not picked up by his old employer....

He was competing against Lofa in his training camps...not too many guys would beat him out for a starting spot. So instead he was a blue-collar ST stud. Where's the problem? Give him a chance.

Gcver2ver3
03-03-2008, 12:13 PM
I find the approach interesting as well and I'm not hating on the pickup...i was just pointing out that if other people have a problem with it, its a bad comparision to bring up davis and smith becuase they proved their worth once the whistle blew in camp

this guy either a) wasn't given the chance because of Lofa or
b) never showed the skill set to warrant a re-signing

nontheless, if he can play in the middle it could really help us out

who knows why it hasn't worked out for him but he's an underdog in the same respect as the previous players i mentioned...that's all i'm saying...

for the point i'm making the comparison is fine...my point is regardless of their history give the guys a chance to compete here and lets see what happens, versus immediately tabbing someone as not being starting material....which is what was done for Davis/Smith

but i understand the point you're making so i won't argue symantics with you...i think you and i both will be rooting for the guy just the same, and that's whats important...:thumbsup:

vancejohnson82
03-03-2008, 12:19 PM
who knows why it hasn't worked out for him but he's an underdog in the same respect as the previous players i mentioned...that's all i'm saying...

for the point i'm making the comparison is fine...my point is regardless of their history give the guys a chance to compete here and lets see what happens, versus immediately tabbing someone as not being starting material....which is what was done for Davis/Smith

but i understand the point you're making so i won't argue symantics with you...i think you and i both will be rooting for the guy just the same, and that's whats important...:thumbsup:



agreed....the nice thing about bringing in guys like this is that anything we get from him beyond competent play will be gravy

ColoradoDarin
03-03-2008, 12:20 PM
I find the approach interesting as well and I'm not hating on the pickup...i was just pointing out that if other people have a problem with it, its a bad comparision to bring up davis and smith becuase they proved their worth once the whistle blew in camp

this guy either a) wasn't given the chance because of Lofa or
b) never showed the skill set to warrant a re-signing

nontheless, if he can play in the middle it could really help us out

Ok, forget about Smith and Davis, how about Eddie Mac?

SonOfLe-loLang
03-03-2008, 12:37 PM
Some of you guys are so retarded.

1) This signing does not effect how the broncos will draft
2) This signing will not prevent the broncos from signing more LB's

Los Broncos
03-03-2008, 12:39 PM
Three years is a long time for someone ive never heard of.

Ratboy
03-03-2008, 12:41 PM
DJ | Niko | Boss


I could deal with it, but I would draft a LB too

16slayer24
03-03-2008, 12:44 PM
remins me of alan aldridge

Punisher
03-03-2008, 12:45 PM
Remids of the DD Lewis Signing last year

BroncoBuff
03-03-2008, 12:49 PM
DJ | Niko | Boss
Sounds good ... but Niko comes off the field on passing downs, unlike in the past when we pull the Sam.

BroncoBuff
03-03-2008, 12:53 PM
Remids of the DD Lewis Signing last year
OUCH!

Well, Niko's just a kid ... that's a big difference.

Popps
03-03-2008, 12:55 PM
Championship.

Mark it down.

Florida_Bronco
03-03-2008, 01:00 PM
People are going to like this guy. He's a legitimate special teams demon. He's also good enough to start for some teams as a Mike, but Lofa Tatupu owns the middle in Seattle.

When it comes to linebackers, I take your word for it. :approve:

24champ
03-03-2008, 01:12 PM
What about Boss Baily??

Don't want.

DBroncos4life
03-03-2008, 01:22 PM
hello?

did you even read my Rod Smith/Terrell Davis reply?

if not read it...

and if so read it again...

Stop acting like TD and Rod are the NORM man, they are so an exception to the rule. How many bums do you think we have fielded before we found them?

Houshyamama
03-03-2008, 01:25 PM
I like this type of signing.

ro_50
03-03-2008, 01:44 PM
I want to see how this signing plays out. I'm willing to give it a chance.

He's a special teams demon -- from all accounts -- and he could have a chance to crack the starting line up here.

And he's not expensive either.

Gcver2ver3
03-03-2008, 01:46 PM
Stop acting like TD and Rod are the NORM man, they are so an exception to the rule. How many bums do you think we have fielded before we found them?

no one is saying it's the norm...as i said earlier for all we know he won't make it out of training camp...

what i'm saying is, instead of being crybabies on the signing...let's wait and see what he does first...

people are judging the guy and he hasn't even played a down for us yet...

i like this approach by Denver...i see the glass half full...

if you don't want to see it that way i understand...

DBroncos4life
03-03-2008, 01:52 PM
no one is saying it's the norm...as i said earlier for all we know he won't make it out of training camp...

what i'm saying is, instead of being crybabies on the signing...let's wait and see what he does first...

people are judging the guy and he hasn't even played a down for us yet...

i like this approach by Denver...i see the glass half full...

if you don't want to see it that way i understand...

I don't see this move as anything more then taking the cheap way to see if we find gold in crap. Its not always the bad way of doing things but I think the safer bet would this guy won't amount to anything but a SP teamer.

2KBack
03-03-2008, 02:00 PM
This could be the next Keith Burns, sounds good to me

Doggcow
03-03-2008, 02:06 PM
Koutavedes was a very solid special teamer in Seattle (which we need BAD). He's a decent LB from what I saw. He has a great attitude and will outperform anything anyone expects.

The story of his trip to even make it to the NFL was amazing, I suggest checking it out.

Gcver2ver3
03-03-2008, 02:19 PM
I don't see this move as anything more then taking the cheap way to see if we find gold in crap. Its not always the bad way of doing things but I think the safer bet would this guy won't amount to anything but a SP teamer.

you're prolly right...

i'm curious to see how all this turns out...

WABronco
03-03-2008, 02:26 PM
Niko's the man. Good, solid depth signing.

SouthStndJunkie
03-03-2008, 02:45 PM
We are building from the bottom up.

Connecticut Bronco Fan
03-03-2008, 03:31 PM
Koutouvides is from Connecticut, which makes him my new favorite bronco!

fontaine
03-03-2008, 04:03 PM
He's physical, not afraid to getting stuck in with a great work ethic.

Exactly the type of LB we need when we have no DTs.

orinjkrush
03-03-2008, 04:15 PM
if he has a chip on his shoulder, i'm gonna prove myself attitude, then bring him in

colonelbeef
03-03-2008, 04:24 PM
This could be the next Keith Burns, sounds good to me

yep

enjolras
03-03-2008, 04:32 PM
I don't see this move as anything more then taking the cheap way to see if we find gold in crap. Its not always the bad way of doing things but I think the safer bet would this guy won't amount to anything but a SP teamer.

That would be a TREMENDOUS thing. Our defensive problems where heavily compounded by the ridiculous field position other teams enjoyed thanks to the worst kick-off/punt coverage unit I've ever seen.

If this guy does nothing but prop up special teams, then it was an unbelievably good signing.

chaz
03-03-2008, 04:48 PM
i don't think it's been called...my new adopt-a-bronco!

Kaylore
03-03-2008, 06:14 PM
I like this signing largely because teams that I trust went after him and because he's young and has no other real concerns. I also would bet we told him he has a shot at starting this year, which might have weighed into that. If we roll DJ back to the Will and draft Bryan Kehl, I could live with our LB's for this season.

mattob14
03-03-2008, 06:53 PM
I like this signing largely because teams that I trust went after him and because he's young and has no other real concerns. I also would bet we told him he has a shot at starting this year, which might have weighed into that. If we roll DJ back to the Will and draft Bryan Kehl, I could live with our LB's for this season.

I think that's pretty close to what will happen too. At the very least, Koutouvides adds depth and competition at MLB and relieves some of the pressure to grab a 1st or 2nd round LBer. Now we can look at guys like Kehl or Goff in round 4 or Leman or Dizon in round 5 and have a younger, cheaper, deeper unit that also provides more special teams production.

Elway777
03-03-2008, 08:11 PM
I like the signing. I could see the Broncos drafting Mayo in the second round to compete with Niko for the Mike. Mayo could then play the Mike or the Sam and D.J. plays the Will. I hope the Broncos pass on Boss Bailey.

crazyhorse
03-03-2008, 08:14 PM
He's no Demorrio Williams. But he might be an upgrade for a defense like Denvers.

Inkana7
03-03-2008, 08:15 PM
He's no Demorrio Williams. But he might be an upgrade for a defense like Denvers.

http://www.landbigfish.com/images/store/swatches/Hed-SwaySpook.jpg

Drek
03-03-2008, 08:34 PM
I like the signing. I could see the Broncos drafting Mayo in the second round to compete with Niko for the Mike. Mayo could then play the Mike or the Sam and D.J. plays the Will. I hope the Broncos pass on Boss Bailey.

My thoughts as well, though I don't think we pass on Bailey.

There's a decent number of guys in this draft who could be a good mike. Someone like Niko here makes a good insurance policy in case they aren't ready to role from day one.

DJ back at will, I'm betting we sign Boss Bailey to a pretty small deal (less than Williams got form KC), and a rookie and Koutouvides competing at MLB, with Webster as the 3rd option and backup sam, Winborn as the backup will. That'd give us some worthwhile special teams help.

Billy Clyde Puckett
03-03-2008, 08:51 PM
Some folk don't get it. If he is the 53rd best player on the team this year and he is better than the 53rd best player last year, the Broncs are making progress.

ol number 7
03-03-2008, 09:06 PM
I loved this kid when he played at Purdue. He was a lunch pail guy. He never really got much of a chance to be a starter in Seattle. A definite upgrade.

Is this Allen Aldridge or Jim Ryan ??

Bronco Billy
03-03-2008, 09:38 PM
From Wikipedia:

Seattle Seahawks
Koutouvides was taken with the 20th pick in the fourth round (118th overall) of the 2004 NFL Draft, becoming only the third player in Seahawks history to be drafted from Purdue University and the first since 1990 (T Bill Hitchcock). During his rookie year in the NFL, he played in every game, mostly on special teams, but started the last two games of the season vs. Arizona (12/26) and vs. Atlanta (1/2). He led the team with 16 special teams tackles and totaled 46 stops (38 solo) with one sack at linebacker, and he posted a career-high nine tackles (eight solo) at the New York Jets (12/19) and first-career sack came vs. Miami (11/21). At the Wild Card Game vs. St. Louis (1/8/05), he posted five tackles (three solo). In 2005, he played in 12 games, mostly on special teams, where he collected 10 stops. He saw time at linebacker at Philadelphia (12/5) and vs. San Francisco (12/11) with a tackle in each game. He also played all three postseason games with seven special teams tackles.

Personal
Koutouvides comes from a close knit family, his father is a Greek restaurateur from Tanzania. Growing up Koutouvides and his two other brothers used to work as a busboys in the family owned restaurant, The Stonewell, located in Farmington, CT. His mother's side of the family is from Kefalonia in Greek Islands. His paternal grandfather's side of the family fled during the Greek-Turkish War and settled in Africa as many Greek refugees from Asia Minor did so back then. That's how his father grew up in Tanzania. His parents ended up in Connecticut and Niko attended Greek school in New Britain for six years. In the off season, Niko comes back to Connecticut to visit family. He's now engaged to marry

broncos loveI
03-03-2008, 09:44 PM
I have no complaints with this acquisition.

elsid13
03-03-2008, 09:44 PM
I like the signing it gives depth at LB corp, and strengthen the ST coverage

SoDak Bronco
03-03-2008, 10:09 PM
i talked to my buddy who is a seahawks fan..He said he was pissed to see him go. The guy is a special teams captain and just makes plays when he is out there. I like the addition even more after hearing how upset this hawks fan was about losing NIKO..

Bronco Billy
03-03-2008, 10:20 PM
If this guy's a stud on ST, then it's a good pick-up.

MechanicalBull
03-03-2008, 10:21 PM
If he can add depth at LB and play good ST than it's a fine pick up.
Wasn't Paul Smith the FB from the Rams supposed to be a great ST player too?

Broncojef
03-03-2008, 10:34 PM
I'm really pulling for this kid and hope this marks the movement of DJ back to where he belongs. I still think we need to draft a serious MLB as his backup but our core just got better IMO.

DJ=WILL
NIKO=MLB
BAILEY=SAM

Punisher
03-03-2008, 10:37 PM
I'm really pulling for this kid and hope this marks the movement of DJ back to where he belongs. I still think we need to draft a serious MLB as his backup but our core just got better IMO.

DJ=WILL
NIKO=MLB
BAILEY=SAM

No way DJ moves back if anything i think NIKO goes to the WILL

SoCalBronco
03-03-2008, 10:48 PM
I'm really pulling for this kid and hope this marks the movement of DJ back to where he belongs. I still think we need to draft a serious MLB as his backup but our core just got better IMO.

DJ=WILL
NIKO=MLB
BAILEY=SAM

Very possible, although if Bailey is also signed, I think Winborn would give him a good run for the Sam.

Bronco Billy
03-03-2008, 10:52 PM
I'm really pulling for this kid and hope this marks the movement of DJ back to where he belongs. I still think we need to draft a serious MLB as his backup but our core just got better IMO.

DJ=WILL
NIKO=MLB
BAILEY=SAM


It would be nice to get someone who will allow DJ to return to Will. BTW, If you're going to use Will and Sam, you might as well use Mike for the middle.

Bronco Billy
03-03-2008, 10:54 PM
Very possible, although if Bailey is also signed, I think Winborn would give him a good run for the Sam.

People don't mention Winborn too much, but I liked his play this year. Hopefully, Winborn can be a difference maker on D.

That One Guy
03-03-2008, 11:04 PM
It cracks me up how Slap mentioned the guy as a ST stud and instantly everyone jumped on the "he'll turn around our ST" bandwagon. The guy may be good, let's all hope... but let's not move DJ back to weakside quite yet. Let's see what happens...

The thread started out with a bunch of "Who's that?" and that's probably much more indicative of what we could expect than what some people are throwing out there.

Broncojef
03-03-2008, 11:06 PM
No way DJ moves back if anything i think NIKO goes to the WILL

Sorry I lived DJ in the "MIKE" role last year and I'm just not a fan. NIKO has given me a new lease on life, hope springs eternal and all that. I too would be very happy having Winborn and Webster as backups.

rovolution
03-03-2008, 11:13 PM
It cracks me up how Slap mentioned the guy as a ST stud and instantly everyone jumped on the "he'll turn around our ST" bandwagon. The guy may be good, let's all hope... but let's not move DJ back to weakside quite yet. Let's see what happens...

The thread started out with a bunch of "Who's that?" and that's probably much more indicative of what we could expect than what some people are throwing out there.

Slap knows his LBs.

He predicted a DROY type season for Patrick Willis wwaaaayy before the draft.

BroncoBuff
03-03-2008, 11:25 PM
From Wikipedia:

Personal
Koutouvides comes from a close knit family, his father is a Greek restaurateur from Tanzania. Growing up Koutouvides and his two other brothers used to work as a busboys in the family owned restaurant, The Stonewell, located in Farmington, CT. His mother's side of the family is from Kefalonia in Greek Islands. His paternal grandfather's side of the family fled during the Greek-Turkish War and settled in Africa as many Greek refugees from Asia Minor did so back then. That's how his father grew up in Tanzania. His parents ended up in Connecticut and Niko attended Greek school in New Britain for six years. In the off season, Niko comes back to Connecticut to visit family. He's now engaged to marry
... he's now engaged to marry who?


And if we do start DJ-Will/Niko-Mike/Boss-Sam ... it'll be Niko coming off the field on passing downs.

Bronco Billy
03-03-2008, 11:49 PM
Sorry I lived DJ in the "MIKE" role last year and I'm just not a fan. NIKO has given me a new lease on life, hope springs eternal and all that. I too would be very happy having Winborn and Webster as backups.

DJ will probably improve at Mike if he's there this year. But, he is definitely more effective at Will. We can do better than Niko at LB, IMO. He should be solid in ST. I wish we could have gotten Vilma, but he's already spoken for.

wolf754life
03-04-2008, 12:08 AM
wow, i guess he is all pro, way to go guys, thanks for the great info homers are us!!!

Broncojef
03-04-2008, 08:30 AM
wow, i guess he is all pro, way to go guys, thanks for the great info homers are us!!!

I hate to break it to you but the Broncos didn't spend $7.5Mill on a LB whose natural position is MIKE to bolster special teams. You guys need to look past the big name Lance Briggs type to the diamond in the rough gameplan Shanny is going after this year. This kid sat behind a stud on the depth chart and just wasn't breaking the lineup in Seattle. He doesn't have to be All-Pro to start on this LB core. And why wouldn't we want to move DJ back to weak side? I realize he made tackles 10 yards downfield and his stats were great but in case you missed it our Defense sucked. I think DJ was so over his head most of the season because he didn't have the mental capacity to learn MLB and there was no way he was ever going to provide leadership. Niko is now the man!!!

Broncojef
03-04-2008, 08:33 AM
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_8443449

Broncos get their middle man
By Mike Klis
The Denver Post
Article Last Updated: 03/04/2008 05:14:07 AM MST


There is a new Mike at Dove Valley and his name is Niko.

Broncos fans will want to get to know Niko Koutouvides, the Broncos' new middle linebacker, a position otherwise dubbed the Mike. As in, most likely, the Broncos' starting Mike.

The Broncos did not give Koutouvides a three-year, $7.5 million contract for the primary purpose of bolstering their special teams, much as they could use the help.

Nor did the 6-foot-2, 244-pound Koutouvides turn down a nearly identical offer from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and a standing matching offer from his former Seattle Seahawks so he could spend the next three years watching D.J. Williams from the sideline.

"I signed with Denver because of the opportunity to play middle linebacker," Kou- touvides said. "Tampa was pretty much looking at me to be their Sam (strongside) 'backer and back up at Mike. But I've been a middle linebacker all my life. I've extremely excited."

There is no announcement yet from Denver coach Mike Shanahan, but it appears Williams is moving back to the outside, where his preference would be the Will (weakside) position. Koutouvides, who backed up Pro Bowler Lofa Tatupu in Seattle, was recruited with the idea of becoming the Broncos' third starting middle linebacker in three years, after Williams and Al Wilson.

A special-teams standout during his four years in Seattle, Koutouvides is a ferocious hitter who got more playing time last season in the Seahawks' four-'backer packages.

The Broncos' third starting linebacker could be Boss Bailey, brother of star cornerback Champ Bailey. Boss is scheduled to visit Denver on Wednesday and Green Bay later in the week.

"The Broncos said in their perfect world they would like to move D.J. back to his more natural outside position," Kou- touvides said. "I didn't realize it until my visit that he had played all three linebacker positions in his four years here. I feel for the guy. It's tough to move around like that because you want to play on instinct. He's a phenomenal athlete to have been able to start at three positions like that."

In what sounds like a spinoff from the movie "My Big Fat Greek Wedding," Koutouvides and his two older brothers grew up working as busboys at the Greek restaurant his father still operates in Farmington, Conn.

Naturally, the movie came up during his dinner visit at Del Frisco's Double Eagle Steak House with, among other Broncos luminaries, linebackers coach Jim Ryan and his wife, Sara.

"Coach Ryan's wife said it was her favorite movie," Kou- touvides. "The movie was pretty much right on, but they did exaggerate a few things. We really don't use Windex to heal, anymore."


Footnotes.

The Broncos may have a visit with San Francisco offensive tackle Kwame Harris and are talking with former Broncos and Raiders offensive tackle Cornell Green. . . . Safety Sammy Knight signed with the Giants. He visited the Broncos on Friday, but Denver didn't have much interest

ND Bronco Fan
03-04-2008, 08:43 AM
I am torn, I want DJ at Will but I still think in his second year at Mike I like the lineup of DJ-Mike and Winborn at Will.

Inkana7
03-04-2008, 09:10 AM
I like the signing. We'll see what he can do.

montrose
03-04-2008, 09:41 AM
Looks like (assuming Boss signs)

WLB: DJ (Thank God!), Green
MLB: Niko, Webster
SLB: Boss, Winborn

Deeper than last year and in an instant improvement simply by having guys playing their natural position. Don't know much about Niko beyond his special teams skills, but with DJ and Webster you have two backup plans and that's not including drafting a MLB.

worm
03-04-2008, 09:56 AM
Sounds like Niko has the desire...if nothing else.

It will be nice to have a hammer in the middle again.

The Broncos should publicly apologize to DJ for what they have done to him over the last three years, pay him his money and leave him at Will.

Popcorn Sutton
03-04-2008, 10:08 AM
Sounds like Niko has the desire...if nothing else.

It will be nice to have a hammer in the middle again.

The Broncos should publicly apologize to DJ for what they have done to him over the last three years, pay him his money and leave him at Will.

A nice fat contract extension ought to take care of that! :thumbs:

wolf754life
03-04-2008, 12:20 PM
The Broncos should publicly apologize to DJ for what they have done to him over the last three years, pay him his money and leave him at Will.

DJ wants out of Denver, and he will get his wish in two years!

Chris
03-04-2008, 12:33 PM
Whatever happened to Jashon Sykes? i know Spragan plays for Miami now.

DBroncos4life
03-04-2008, 03:54 PM
Slap knows his LBs.

He predicted a DROY type season for Patrick Willis wwaaaayy before the draft.

Can you name the last LB not to win the DROY?

Inkana7
03-04-2008, 04:03 PM
Can you name the last LB not to win the DROY?

Jon Beason?

BroncoBuff
03-04-2008, 04:11 PM
Whatever happened to Jashon Sykes? i know Spragan plays for Miami now.
He was waived off the Redskins roster about one year ago ... Last I heard he was trying to join the staff at CU.

DBroncos4life
03-04-2008, 04:12 PM
Jon Beason?

Peppers in 02. From 2000 only one time (Peppers) has a LB not one the DROY.

Inkana7
03-04-2008, 04:13 PM
Peppers in 02. From 2000 only one time (Peppers) has a LB not one the DROY.

Re-read what your question was.

The MVPlaya
03-04-2008, 04:17 PM
The Broncos should publicly apologize to DJ for what they have done to him over the last three years, pay him his money and leave him at Will.

DJ wants out of Denver, and he will get his wish in two years!

Not if we start winning...

DBroncos4life
03-04-2008, 04:19 PM
Re-read what your question was.

The last LB not to win the DROY?

Inkana7
03-04-2008, 04:21 PM
The last LB not to win the DROY?

It should be phrased: The last DROY that wasn't a LB.

DBroncos4life
03-04-2008, 04:23 PM
It should be phrased: The last DROY that wasn't a LB.

sweet

Kaylore
03-04-2008, 04:39 PM
Whatever happened to Jashon Sykes? i know Spragan plays for Miami now.

I believe he is on the Buffs coaching staff...maybe a front office guy now. Something like that.

RunSilentRunDeep
03-04-2008, 04:50 PM
I'm just glad he uses the common spelling of 'Koutouvides.'

Broncojef
03-04-2008, 09:33 PM
The Broncos should publicly apologize to DJ for what they have done to him over the last three years, pay him his money and leave him at Will.

DJ wants out of Denver, and he will get his wish in two years!

If he had game maybe I'd care. He and the rest of the Defense last year should apologize to the fans for us having to watch that mess. He was in a leadership role as our MIKE and they sucked what makes you think we owe him anything? Want to go...theres the door pal.

Dukes
03-04-2008, 10:48 PM
If he had game maybe I'd care. He and the rest of the Defense last year should apologize to the fans for us having to watch that mess. He was in a leadership role as our MIKE and they sucked what makes you think we owe him anything? Want to go...theres the door pal.

As bad as the D was last year, letting DJ walk would be a huge mistake

Kaylore
03-04-2008, 10:56 PM
I'm just glad he uses the common spelling of 'Koutouvides.'

LOL

Broncojef
03-04-2008, 11:20 PM
As bad as the D was last year, letting DJ walk would be a huge mistake

Meh.. DJ can stay or go he's certainly not one of my favorite Broncos. Anyone threatning that he might walk in any fashion because we did him wrong is laughable. He had his shot and I wasn't impressed, he certainly had his share of learning issues most of which because I am convinced he's probably not the brightest bulb in the bunch. I'm certainly more interested at seeing him back at weakside.

worm
03-05-2008, 01:49 AM
Meh.. DJ can stay or go he's certainly not one of my favorite Broncos. Anyone threatning that he might walk in any fashion because we did him wrong is laughable. He had his shot and I wasn't impressed, he certainly had his share of learning issues most of which because I am convinced he's probably not the brightest bulb in the bunch. I'm certainly more interested at seeing him back at weakside.

What weren't you impressed with?

DJ as a Will? A Sam? A Mike? Perhaps you weren't impressed with him under Coyer? Maybe under Bates? Maybe with Slowick's scheme?

That isn't a shot. That is a train wreck of a D.

Asking anybody to do what was asked of DJ is unfair. You have to put even the best players in positions to succeed and give them stability.

Speaking of dim bulbs....

The MVPlaya
03-29-2010, 05:34 PM
Bump....

Dagmar
03-29-2010, 05:36 PM
Bloody hell I panicked!

TonyR
03-29-2010, 05:37 PM
Absolutely ridiculous that they signed this guy thinking he could be a starter. Just unbelievable. What a mess that 2008 defensive FA class was, with a couple of losers on offense to ice the epic failure of a cake.