Broncos sign Keary Colbert

[montrose]

Broncos sign WR Colbert
By Bill Williamson
The Denver Post
Article Last Updated: 03/01/2008 05:51:27 PM MST

The Broncos made their first out-of-house free-agent agreement in the form of receiver Keary Colbert.

The Carolina receiver agreed to terms on a three-year contract Saturday. Colbert, 25, had 32 catches last season. His best season was in 2004, his rookie season when he was a second-round pick form USC. He had 47 catches that season.

Colbert will compete with Brandon Stokley for the No. 2 starting job opposite blooming star Brandon Marshall. The Broncos have an opening in wake of the release of Javon Walker on Friday.
http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_8421884

[HEAV]

You happy Buff?! We got a new toy!

[Goobzilla]

Good signing, I doubt we broke the bank for him. Welcome to Denver!!

[lex]

For how much $? Its kind of a waste if he doesnt beat out Stokley to be the #2.

[backup qb]

I am not going to start spewing piss and vinegar like most will until I read up on the kid. I know after his rookie year they were really high on him. I wonder what happened? I love the fact he is only 25.

[Bronx33]

Will he really beat out stokley for the #2? comon! really!

[broncofan7]

At only age 25, he certainly has room to grow. Time will tell if he is the answer as our #2---and since Carolina is in the market for recievers (they contacted us regarding Javon) if they felt that he was going to become anything legitimate--they certainly would not have let him go to free agency----kind of indifferent on this one--anyone know if Colbert was drawing interest elsewhere?

[Bronx33]

I am not going to start spewing piss and vinegar like most will until I read up on the kid. I know after his rookie year they were really high on him. I wonder what happened? I love the fact he is only 25.


Ok here ya go

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keary_Colbert

[lex]

I am not going to start spewing piss and vinegar like most will until I read up on the kid. I know after his rookie year they were really high on him. I wonder what happened? I love the fact he is only 25.

I wonder if it has to do with the QB play? Im not all that familiar with Colbert either. I just know that theyve struggled at QB the past few years with Delhomme being inconsistent or injured.

[backup qb]

For how much $? Its kind of a waste if he doesnt beat out Stokley to be the #2.

He just got to town and we are already starting the "he's a waste" talk? By nature I am very pessimistic, but this board makes me look like Ronald McDonald. Bad example, someone who's overly happy.

[Goobzilla]

When you look at the "talent" that has been throwing him the ball, it's not hard to see why his catches were down.

Jake Delhomme
David Carr
Matt Moore
Vinny Testaverde

[Bronx33]

He scored his first TD vs the cheaps (what's not to like here!)

[backup qb]

Lex,
Don't take my previous post the wrong way. I am just shocked at how negative this board has become. I guess a couple of bad seasons will do it to ya.

[SoCalBronco]

So long as it is cheap, its a solid addition. Hopefully he will recover his rookie year form.

[backup qb]

Ok here ya go

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keary_Colbert

Thanks!

[Cito Pelon]

Colbert will "compete" with Stokley? What a laugh, Burger. Colbert will compete with Martinez. Stokley I wonder if he'll last the year, he sure won't be competing outside the hashes.

[lex]

Ok here ya go

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keary_Colbert

Colbert has a tattoo of his initials "KC" similar to that of the logo of the Kansas City Chiefs. Ironically, it was in Kansas City against the Chiefs where he scored his first NFL touchdown in 2004, where soon after he pointed to the tattoo on his arm and then to the KC logo in the end zone.

During the 2007 Colbert began writing a column on college football called the "Colbert Campus Report" for the panthers.com website. Each week he ranks the top 5 teams and picks upsets. The title is reminiscent of the Colbert Report, a popular television program featuring the eponymous anchor.



Infidel.

[montrose]

When you look at the "talent" that has been throwing him the ball, it's not hard to see why his catches were down.

Jake Delhomme
David Carr
Matt Moore
Vinny Testaverde

Don't forget that so much of Carolina's offense runs through Steve Smith.

[snowtrx]

I am not going to start spewing piss and vinegar like most will until I read up on the kid. I know after his rookie year they were really high on him. I wonder what happened? I love the fact he is only 25.

ditto. Not the best of signs when a skill position players only YouTube highlights are from college.

[Arkansas Bronco]

Will he really beat out stokley for the #2? comon! really!

Yea I think he will stokley doesnt want that much action. He is still recovering and doent have the stamina to run all game. He just wants to run slot thats all.

[rugbythug]

2007 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc.
Grade: 55 | Key (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/scouts/news/story?id=2996209)
Alert: U

Comment: Colbert is smart, athletic and shifty. He has outstanding lateral quickness and acceleration off the line. He has good speed and quickness. He reaches his top speed quickly and has good play speed in his routes. He is savvy in setting up his routes and stacking defenders. He is quick out of stems and gets good separation. He has some awareness to find soft spots in coverage and will work to get open. He plays bigger than his listed size. He has good leaping ability, timing and ball skills. He has steady, strong hands. He has the instincts, quickness and deceptive speed to be a threat after the catch. He is a willing blocker who is strong enough to sustain. But Colbert is coming off a disappointing, inconsistent 2006 season. He has neither ideal size nor elite speed. He can be caught off guard and jammed by physical corners. His concentration and body control waver on tough catches in traffic and the sideline.

[RhymesayersDU]

Lock it up. Championship!

[lex]

Colbert will "compete" with Stokley? What a laugh, Burger. Colbert will compete with Martinez. Stokley I wonder if he'll last the year, he sure won't be competing outside the hashes.

If he's not likely to beat out Stokley it would have been better to get someone more explosive and a better contributor on special teams.

[Bronx33]

Colbert will "compete" with Stokley? What a laugh, Burger. Colbert will compete with Martinez. Stokley I wonder if he'll last the year, he sure won't be competing outside the hashes.

The competition could raise stokleys level even higher i was thinking this pick my be more for the future based on his age.

[Northman]

Has potential but never blossomed like he should have in Carolina. Lets hope a change of scenery will help him burst out.

[Requiem]

He's getting a three year deal worth about 2.42 million a year. (http://broncosdraft.wordpress.com/)

[HEAV]

Early reports have it 7 Mill @ 3 years

[lex]

Thats too much.

[SouthStndJunkie]

Decent signing.....still young at 25.

I liked him at USC.

Better than signing old bastards with no upside.

[Bronx33]

Thats too much.

You can say that in 3 years ( be patient)

[Cito Pelon]

So long as it is cheap, its a solid addition. Hopefully he will recover his rookie year form.

Yah, the big deal is the cost. I don't mind Colbert as an addition. Sure-handed dude from what I remember. Solid pickup, solid pro.

[montrose]

Schefter says 3 years, 2.42 mil per. High for his past production, but considering the market - not bad. Hopefully, between he, Martinez or Jacobs - we can find some depth. If Colbert can stretch the field and take some attention from BMarsh, Stokley and Scheffler - it's worth it.

[ro_50]

It's kind of pricey for his production but I'm willing to give him a chance.

[Broncojef]

I think this signing is the type we really need. Seems like a solid guy with good talent that is still very reasonable to our cap with a high upside. Once guys make the big time like Moss, Walker etc they are pains in the ass and demand the moon. Good signing Shanny.

[gunns]

I'm thrilled as long as it wasn't a money breaker. Now hopefully we will not hear anything more about WR in free agency or the draft, except maybe the very late rounds. They are a dime a dozen. Colbert is a decent receiver.

[SonOfLe-loLang]

Thats too much.

That's not too much...sounds about right. Hey, Nate Jackson is making a milliion a year and never sees the field! If Colbert winds up starting, its a pretty cheap starting WR considering it's his second contract

[SoCalBronco]

That's very reasonable. Definitely a solid move. 2 million and change per year is nothing in this market.

Good move, Shanny.

We still need to use a pick on a WR in the top four rounds though.

[Requiem]

That's very reasonable. Definitely a solid move. 2 million and change per year is nothing in this market.

Good move, Shanny.

We still need to use a pick on a WR in the top four rounds though.

I'd expect a similar move as we did in 2006 and perhaps draft two guys between 4-5 and focus our efforts on Day One at LB, DT and OT.

Get on AIM.

[CHANGSTER]

So is he's a fast, stretch the field type of player we were looking for? Anyone familiar with him that can offer some good insight? I'm surprised how little I know about him.

[Jens1893]

Solid signing. Pretty much what I wanted the Broncos to do.

[montrose]

So far, I'm really liking our offseason.

[DTBLAS]

I really like this signing, probably more than I should considering how inconsistent he is. I just like the fact that we brought in a talented WR without breaking the bank, especially after seeing what Berrian got.

[Broncoman13]

That's very reasonable. Definitely a solid move. 2 million and change per year is nothing in this market.

Good move, Shanny.

We still need to use a pick on a WR in the top four rounds though.

Sad that we can look at 2.42 million per year as though it were nothing now.

Really though, 2.42 mil is about 1/40th of the cap so it's not much in this day and age.

[eddie mac]

Incase no-one else has said it, welcome to the Broncos Keary and let's hope you're more of a team player than the last **** who came in here at the position.

[KCStud]

I didn't realize he hasn't scored a TD in over 2 years(24 games played).
Decent signing if you can get him back to his rookie form...

[Jens1893]

Incase no-one else has said it, welcome to the Broncos Keary and let's hope you're more of a team player than the last **** who came in here at the position.

whats wrong with brandon stokley? ;)

[HEAV]

So is he's a fast, stretch the field type of player we were looking for? Anyone familiar with him that can offer some good insight? I'm surprised how little I know about him.

Not really a speed burner, that will be B-Marsh and maybe a draft selection, Colbert is more of a possesion reciever.

But in theis offense that's what is needed.

Plus he isn't running on a knee that needs Microfracture.

[Smilin Assassin]

Broncos | Colbert signs two-year contract
Sat, 1 Mar 2008 17:34:04 -0800

Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports the Denver Broncos signed free-agent WR Keary Colbert (Panthers) to a two-year contract worth $2.4 million.


(Though I do like Shefter's word over ESPN's, and he says 3 yrs...take it for what it's worth)

www.kffl.com

[tesnyde]

Wow exciting stuff...now settle down everyone and don't start brawling over who gets to adopt Keary (tough name, by the way). Lott, Lambert, Bart, Elway, ...Keary. In retrospect not very exciting, but hopefully solid contributor.

[BroncoBuff]

You happy Buff?! We got a new toy!
^5

But like Cito said, Burger Bill kinda ruined it with his foolish, "he will compete with Bradon Stokley for the #2 spot." What a dope.

Colbert has the Michael Clayton disease: an excellent rookie year, and downward slide every year thereafter. I hope we can change that trend.

.

[elsid13]

So is he's a fast, stretch the field type of player we were looking for? Anyone familiar with him that can offer some good insight? I'm surprised how little I know about him.

He not a burner, but rather a guy that traditional WCO tall guy that work the middle of the field and run the slants.

[Bronx33]

Wow exciting stuff...now settle down everyone and don't start brawling over who gets to adopt Keary (tough name, by the way). Lott, Lambert, Bart, Elway, ...Keary. In retrospect not very exciting, but hopefully solid contributor.


Nothing wrong with a positive outlook on the pickup.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Poor man's DBowe.

[Popcorn Sutton]

Poor man's DBowe.

DBowe is a number 1 receiver... what's your point?

[montrose]

So is he's a fast, stretch the field type of player we were looking for? Anyone familiar with him that can offer some good insight? I'm surprised how little I know about him.

Here's a few highlights:
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d802a84d0
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80310201

[eddie mac]

whats wrong with brandon stokley? ;)

Stokley isn't a ****.:giggle:

[Arkansas Bronco]

Nothing about this is unsettling. Walker who I loved in the first year pissed me off with the lilly whining. So good job of getting rid of him and replacing. I think this is a good #2 signing lets just see what else we are going to do.

[HEAV]

^5

But like Cito said, Burger Bill kinda ruined it with his foolish, "he will compete with Bradon Stokley for the #2 spot." What a dope.

Colbert has the Michael Clayton disease: an excellent rookie year, and downward slide every year thereafter. I hope we can change that trend.

.


It's Burger, I mean would you expect anymore? Lets just be happy he got the name correct.

Still I can see Stoke and Colbert being 2A and 2B next year. Plus Denver has to get back to running the damn ball.

[eddie mac]

Broncos | Colbert signs two-year contract
Sat, 1 Mar 2008 17:34:04 -0800

Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports the Denver Broncos signed free-agent WR Keary Colbert (Panthers) to a two-year contract worth $2.4 million.


(Though I do like Shefter's word over ESPN's, and he says 3 yrs...take it for what it's worth)

www.kffl.com

Going by Schefter's Bronco scoops so far this offseason I'd say ESPN could be right.

Scheff stated Engelberger had signed for 3 yrs and Ekuban had signed on Friday next thing he's on a plane to Oakland.

Scratch that. According to Rotoworld it's 3yrs $7.2m with a $2.5m SB a little bit less that Stokes' 3yr $10.1m extension with a $5m SB.

[Bronx33]

DBowe is a number 1 receiver... what's your point?

He never has a point..

[eddie mac]

It's Burger, I mean would you expect anymore? Lets just be happy he got the name correct.

Still I can see Stoke and Colbert being 2A and 2B next year. Plus Denver has to get back to running the damn ball.

Tony Scheffler will be 2A next year.:~ohyah!:

[elsid13]

He never has a point..

expect the one on his head

[lex]

That's not too much...sounds about right. Hey, Nate Jackson is making a milliion a year and never sees the field! If Colbert winds up starting, its a pretty cheap starting WR considering it's his second contract

If he cant supplant Stokley as a #2 and if he cant stretch the field, what exactly is he adding?

[Bronx33]

If he cant supplant Stokley as a #2 and if he cant stretch the field, what exactly is he adding?


Is stokley going to play forever?

[BroncoBuff]

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/4167/colbertsalutekh4.jpg

Colbert giving his first Mile High Salute!

.

[HEAV]

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He was flashy at USC.

[SoCalBronco]

Tony Scheffler will be 2A next year.:~ohyah!:

He'll definitely be our 2nd option next year. He finished with 49 catches this year DESPITE missing the first five games or so and splitting time with Graham, thats VERY, VERY IMPRESSIVE, he finished in the top 10 among TEs in receptions. If he is fully healthy next year hopefully he will catch around 65 passes or so, maybe more. He's a huge monster in the making. I get tired of Graham taking snaps away from him, when only one TE is on the field, it should be him, not Graham.

[lex]

Is stokley going to play forever?

Im more concerned with him playing beyond when we realize Colbert was a mistake (if he is one).

[broncofan2438]

Super Bowl

[HEAV]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQqZNotjRuM

[eddie mac]

He'll definitely be our 2nd option next year. He finished with 49 catches this year DESPITE missing the first five games or so and splitting time with Graham, thats VERY, VERY IMPRESSIVE, he finished in the top 10 among TEs in receptions. If he is fully healthy next year hopefully he will catch around 65 passes or so, maybe more. He's a huge monster in the making. I get tired of Graham taking snaps away from him, when only one TE is on the field, it should be him, not Graham.

You can forget about that until we've 2 decent tackles playing here.

[broncos loveI]

Nice pickup.

[BroncoBuff]

He was flashy at USC.
The song in that video samples "Rump Shaker" by Wrekx'n'Effect! ROFL!

I think I like this guy :~ohyah!:

.

[Bronx33]

Im more concerned with him playing beyond when we realize Colbert was a mistake (if he is one).

Well theres you answer (IF)

All i know is Stokley is 31 and colbert is 25, 3 years should be enough time to see if he sticks with the team and by then stokley will be on the way out remember we are looking at a new QB coming into his own as well.

[PRBronco]

Colbert will "compete" with Stokley? What a laugh, Burger. Colbert will compete with Martinez. Stokley I wonder if he'll last the year, he sure won't be competing outside the hashes.

Haha beat me to it, ****ing burger bill, anyone even half conscious knows this, what the hell does that guy do all day?

P.S. I really like this signing, I remember how bad I wanted them to pick him in the 2nd round that year.

[27atwater]

solid pickup...inexpensive enough that it is very low risk, especially given the way he would fit out O w/ his blocking and good hands. YET, not spectacular enough to make Shanny think WR can't still be addressed if a stud drops to him in round 2.

[Bronx33]

Haha beat me to it, ****ing burger bill, anyone even half conscious knows this, what the hell does that guy do all day?


Somebody actually pays burger bill (remember that) he gives hope to idiots like bob.

[HEAV]

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TJ was very high on Keary in the thread about him visiting. I don't have much knowledge on Colbert, so I would take TJ (USC guy) word.

This video make me feel that Colbert can fit in the Broncos offense.

[lex]

Well theres you answer (IF)

All i know is Stokley is 31 and colbert is 25, 3 years should be enough time to see if he sticks with the team and by then stokley will be on the way out remember we are looking at a new QB coming into his own as well.

Ultimately it comes down to how likely you think it is that he'll become the #2 and produce. Since he hasnt really done much to this point, its kind of wishful thinking and considering he doesnt have other dimension (eg special teams ability) the money is kind of steep. I think we overpaid for him. Just because hes not expensive relative to some other guys, that doesnt mean theres value here.

[Jens1893]

Im more concerned with him playing beyond when we realize Colbert was a mistake (if he is one).

who did you want instead?

if colbert doesnt pan out, we cut him and move on ... it´s not like he´s going to make a fortune. i still think we need to draft a guy in this draft, but im fine with the colbert signing.

[CHANGSTER]

Here's a few highlights:
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d802a84d0
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80310201

Thanks, Looks like he can get down field in a hurry.

[lex]

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TJ was very high on Keary in the thread about him visiting. I don't have much knowledge on Colbert, so I would take TJ (USC guy) word.

This video make me feel that Colbert can fit in the Broncos offense.

Its great that he was good in college but you might as well dig up some old footage of some Florida WRs. USCs WRs havent really lived up to their press clippings in the NFL similar to what you hear about with UF WRs frequently.

[lex]

who did you want instead?

if colbert doesnt pan out, we cut him and move on ... it´s not like he´s going to make a fortune. i still think we need to draft a guy in this draft, but im fine with the colbert signing.


If its not likely that he will be a productive #2 WR, then we might as well save the cap space and roster spot and find someone who can return kicks and or stretch the field.

[Bronx33]

Ultimately it comes down to how likely you think it is that he'll become the #2 and produce. Since he hasnt really done much to this point, its kind of wishful thinking and considering he doesnt have other dimension (eg special teams ability) the money is kind of steep. I think we overpaid for him. Just because hes not expensive relative to some other guys, that doesnt mean theres value here.


Well only time will tell i guess colbert (could) end up cutlers go too guy down the road ya never know and if it don't work cut him. But the guy does have some tools for shanny to woork with you have to admit.

[bmanhas]

Would have rather had Drew Carter, the guy who beat him out in Carolina. I've seen Colbert play quite a few games, and I'm sorry to say guys, he's just not that good. :-( ........piss away another 2.5 million

[OrangeShadow]

with the chemistry jay already has with marshall and stokley i doubt he makes #2 but who knows.

[Bronx33]

with the chemistry jay already has with marshall and stokley i doubt he makes #2 but who knows.


Lets assume stokley is going to be rock solid for 3 straight years and go without injury.

[DTBLAS]

If its not likely that he will be a productive #2 WR, then we might as well save the cap space and roster spot and find someone who can return kicks and or stretch the field.


Who's to say what will happen? He had good production from the #2 spot in his first year. Since then he has been unremarkable, but that could be for any number of reasons including Carolina's less than spectacular QB play. Don't get to down on the guy before he has a chance to prove himself. Heck, even if he does end up the #3 at the least he might fool Shanny long enough for an OT/DT-centric draft.

[Cito Pelon]

If he's not likely to beat out Stokley it would have been better to get someone more explosive and a better contributor on special teams.

I don't mean to denigrate Colbert or Stokley. It's just that Burger is trying to compare apples and oranges. I like both Colbert coming cheap and Stokley doing what he did last year.

[lex]

Who's to say what will happen? He had good production from the #2 spot in his first year. Since then he has been unremarkable, but that could be for any number of reasons including Carolina's less than spectacular QB play. Don't get to down on the guy before he has a chance to prove himself. Heck, even if he does end up the #3 at the least he might fool Shanny long enough for an OT/DT-centric draft.

You can practically use that argument for every FA acquisition and every draft choice. I just think without a higher degree of certainty that he'll be a productive #2 WR and without extra dimension, its too much money to pay him.

[SonOfLe-loLang]

Ultimately it comes down to how likely you think it is that he'll become the #2 and produce. Since he hasnt really done much to this point, its kind of wishful thinking and considering he doesnt have other dimension (eg special teams ability) the money is kind of steep. I think we overpaid for him. Just because hes not expensive relative to some other guys, that doesnt mean theres value here.

Overpaid for him? We barely paid anything for him...what was his signing bonus? 2.5 million over a three year deal? What was graham and henry's SB's last year?

This is a no risk signing....he's making nothing and he's young. In an offense where, at best, he's option 3 or 4, might be a nice signing.

What we really need is an O-line so that Cutler actually has time to find him.

[Dedhed]

Poor man's DBowe.

DBowe is a poor man's BMarsh. Keep it straight, tool.

[Bronco LB 59]

Overpaid for him? We barely paid anything for him...what was his signing bonus? 2.5 million over a three year deal?


You're right. $2.5 million over three years on a $116 million cap is nickels and dimes.

[Dedhed]

You can practically use that argument for every FA acquisition and every draft choice. I just think without a higher degree of certainty that he'll be a productive #2 WR and without extra dimension, its too much money to pay him.

Wake up Lex. This is the vet minimum in FA.

[Cito Pelon]

The competition could raise stokleys level even higher i was thinking this pick my be more for the future based on his age.

Yah, Colbert is a pretty good 2nd WR. That means the opposing safety can get confused sometimes, and providing the O-line can give Jay time, that means Stokley is wide open sometimes for 4-5 TD's next year. Stokley can score, dude knows how to find the endzone. The object is to confuse the safety. Colbert I think allows the option of confusing a safety. Good cheap signing from what I've seen.

[TUG]

Who knows how this kid will turn out. What were people saying about a tall white receiver with his third team and an undrafted free agent. This is how Denver built its SB teams with the castoffs or under the radar guys.

[summerdenver]

I like this signing - it reminds me of Holland last year. He is a young guy and if he can stay healthy will be a solid contributor. In this mkt where Berrian got 7 mil per year, the price is very reasonable. Also because its 3 year deal, he will be looking to produce as he will be looking for a new deal. Car is a run based offense and their passing game is designed around steve smith, so I would not put too much emphasis on past production.

Personally, I wish we signed Bryant Johnson but i think this is a solid pickup.

[HEAV]

A three-year, $7.2 million contract, including a $2.5 million signing bonus isn't that bad for a guy that's 25 and has years left on the tread of his tires.


Hell the Saints paid 2 Million for one year of Devery Henderson.

Not to mention the money Berriman and Stallworth got was huge. So getting a younger wideout at a fair price isn't terrible. It's not like they gave the money to a 35 year old Issac Bruce.

They invested in a young receiver, that filled a need, at a price that works.

[Bronco LB 59]

Who knows how this kid will turn out. What were people saying about a tall white receiver with his third team and an undrafted free agent. This is how Denver built its SB teams with the castoffs or under the radar guys.

Exactly!!! Alfred Williams, Bill Romanowski and Ed McCaffrey were all after thoughts when Denver brought them in. I still have a ESPN NFL preview magazine from 1996 that predicts Denver to finish 5th in the division. Nobody was enamored with the no-name guys they brought in.

[Bronx33]

Now we just have to have him remove that KC off his arm.

[Cito Pelon]

Schefter says 3 years, 2.42 mil per. High for his past production, but considering the market - not bad. Hopefully, between he, Martinez or Jacobs - we can find some depth. If Colbert can stretch the field and take some attention from BMarsh, Stokley and Scheffler - it's worth it.

Yah, that's how I'm looking at it. Dude never struck me as a game-breaker, but he's sure handed. If the ball is in his vicinity, he usually comes down with it. You sure need guys like that on your team in crunch time.

[HEAV]

Now we just have to have him remove that KC off his arm.

Might be a good luck charm? :thumbs:

[Merlin]

You can practically use that argument for every FA acquisition and every draft choice. I just think without a higher degree of certainty...
You want to trade the draft for MF, by far one of the positions of least needs in the team, and you criticize the acquisition of a WR whose salary is 1/50th the cap and who showed a lot of talent in his rookie yr. Granted, he has laid an egg the following couple of yrs, but then so has the offence of that whole team. This is a very reasonable cost for a gamble. It neither hurts the cap, the roster or the draft. Talk about being inconsistent.

[Cito Pelon]

That's very reasonable. Definitely a solid move. 2 million and change per year is nothing in this market.

Good move, Shanny.

We still need to use a pick on a WR in the top four rounds though.

I think that's a good idea.

[Bronx33]

You want to trade the draft for MF, by far one of the positions of least needs in the team, and you criticize the acquisition of a WR whose salary is 1/50th the cap and who showed a lot of talent in his rookie yr. Granted, he has laid an egg the following couple of yrs, but then so has the offence of that whole team. This is a very reasonable cost for a gamble. It neither hurts the cap, the roster or the draft. Talk about being inconsistent.


I will say his egg had alot to do with the QB issues in carolina hopefully he and cutler prosper.

[Jay6Cutler]

i give up im sick of supporting a guy that won 0 champion in 10 years shanny got to go. hes running this team into the ground. hell he didnt build super bowl teams wade did im sick of him over paying for scrubs and not getting players that produce.

[Bronx33]

i give up im sick of supporting a guy that won 0 champion in 10 years shanny got to go. hes running this team into the ground. hell he didnt build super bowel teams wade did im sick of him over paying for scrubs and not getting players that produce.


Bowel teams? run along son obviously 3 beers is your limit.

[Popcorn Sutton]

i give up im sick of supporting a guy that won 0 champion in 10 years shanny got to go. hes running this team into the ground. hell he didnt build super bowel teams wade did im sick of him over paying for scrubs and not getting players that produce.

speaking of bowel... that post... .LOL

[ICON]

If Colbert could not keep doubles off Steve Smith how will he do it with Brandon ?

WTF??? How insane is that? Did no one here catch any Panther games in the past few years? We got screwed and Colbert is laughing all the way to the bank.

[Popps]

I said this about Stokley last year and I'll say it about Colbert this year.

This guy will be a fan favorite by mid season.

[Jay6Cutler]

Bowel teams? run along son obviously 3 beers is your limit.


first YOU run along. second your far from being my father

[HEAV]

Bowel teams? run along son obviously 3 beers is your limit.



Yah, he's alittle on the goober side. Also it's annoying that he never caps his I.

[bcbronc]

i give up im sick of supporting a guy that won 0 champion in 10 years shanny got to go. hes running this team into the ground. hell he didnt build super bowl teams wade did im sick of him over paying for scrubs and not getting players that produce.

Colbert isn't a world beater, but he hardly equates to running the team into the ground. :rofl:



Colbert is a fine depth signing. add a mid-round burner and we should have a nice stable of recievers.

anyone know if he's done any returning as a pro?

[MechanicalBull]

I'm definitley at least going to wait and see what Colbert does before praising him or bashing him. I wanted Bryant Johnson but I don't mind this signing at all and would much rather have him instead of breaking the bank on Berrian or Stallworth who are very inconsistant.

I'm also going to give Colbert a pass too because Carolina's offense wasn't setting the world on fire so who knows he might end up being better. Plus that offense is run through Steve Smith and in 2006 Smith and Keyshawn was on the team so how is he supposed to catch balls with those two anyway.

[Cito Pelon]

So is he's a fast, stretch the field type of player we were looking for? Anyone familiar with him that can offer some good insight? I'm surprised how little I know about him.

He has a good stride, needs to get his head around faster looking for the ball. He's not a bigname man, but a good pickup for cheap. The big deal is will he play ST's.

[Bronx33]

If Colbert could not keep doubles off Steve Smith how will he do it with Brandon ?

WTF??? How insane is that? Did no one here catch any Panther games in the past few years? We got screwed and Colbert is laughing all the way to the bank.



Smith didn't have any problems producing last year.

Link
(http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&conference=null&statisticCategory=RECEIVING&season=2007&seasonType=REG&experience=null&tabSeq=0&qualified=true&Submit=Find)

[fdf]

That's not too much...sounds about right. Hey, Nate Jackson is making a milliion a year and never sees the field!

Sounds like a good gig. I'll sit on the bench for a million a year.

[Bronx33]

first YOU run along. second your far from being my father


Iam just filling in ok but tell you old man to pick up the slack.

[Jay6Cutler]

Colbert isn't a world beater, but he hardly equates to running the team into the ground. :rofl:



Colbert is a fine depth signing. add a mid-round burner and we should have a nice stable of recievers.

anyone know if he's done any returning as a pro?



no but letting 3 stud dt slip threw his fingers is. when all we have are scrubs playing there except for tomas. im not a shanny basher til now. but enough is enough. hell his play calling was even bad this year. shanny has sliped

[Kaylore]

I think that's a good idea.

It's an excellent idea. Colbert isn't very fast or quick and doesn't play special teams. Looking at highlights from College isn't really showing anything either because that was five years ago and he hasn't done much since his rookie year. If he can block, his size will be helpful in the run game but we need more speed and and a true return man. Hopefully he'll develop to more of a third receiver than he was with Carolina, but another option would cover all our bases.

[ChampBailey24]

sad part is is that hes making more than marshall

[ChampBailey24]

i like the signing though

[Bronx33]

sad part is is that hes making more than marshall


Not for long.

[Punisher]

He had 1 ok year and one solid year as a Panther
<table class="w655px datatablecell" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr class="datatablehead CARcolors"><td colspan="16">Career Stats more (http://www.nfl.com/players/kearycolbert/careerstats?id=COL049988) </td> </tr> <tr class="datatabledatahead"> <td rowspan="2">Season</td> <td rowspan="2">Team</td> <td colspan="2">
</td> <td colspan="5">Receiving</td> <td colspan="5">Rushing</td> <td colspan="2">Fumbles</td> </tr> <tr class="datatabledatahead"> <td>G</td> <td>GS</td> <td>Rec</td> <td>Yds</td> <td>Avg</td> <td>Long</td> <td>TD</td> <td>Att</td> <td>Yds</td> <td>Avg</td> <td>Lng</td> <td>TD</td> <td>FUM</td> <td>Lost</td> </tr> <tr class="" onmouseout="this.className=''" onmouseover="this.className='over'"> <td> 2007 </td> <td> Carolina Panthers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/carolinapanthers/profile?team=CAR) </td> <td> 12 </td> <td> 8 </td> <td>32</td> <td>332</td> <td>10.4</td> <td>43</td> <td>0</td> <td>--</td> <td>--</td> <td>--</td> <td>--</td> <td>--</td> <td>1</td> <td>0</td> </tr> <tr onmouseout="this.className='rowAlt'" onmouseover="this.className='over'" class="rowAlt"> <td> 2006 </td> <td> Carolina Panthers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/carolinapanthers/profile?team=CAR) </td> <td> 12 </td> <td> 3 </td> <td>5</td> <td>56</td> <td>11.2</td> <td>16</td> <td>0</td> <td>--</td> <td>--</td> <td>--</td> <td>--</td> <td>--</td> <td>--</td> <td>--</td> </tr> <tr class="" onmouseout="this.className=''" onmouseover="this.className='over'"> <td> 2005 </td> <td> Carolina Panthers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/carolinapanthers/profile?team=CAR) </td> <td> 16 </td> <td> 16 </td> <td>25</td> <td>282</td> <td>11.3</td> <td>42</td> <td>2</td> <td>1</td> <td>6</td> <td>6.0</td> <td>6</td> <td>0</td> <td>1</td> <td>1</td> </tr> <tr onmouseout="this.className='rowAlt'" onmouseover="this.className='over'" class="rowAlt"> <td> 2004 </td> <td> Carolina Panthers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/carolinapanthers/profile?team=CAR) </td> <td> 15 </td> <td> 15 </td> <td>47</td> <td>754</td> <td>16.0</td> <td>63</td> <td>5</td> <td>--</td> <td>--</td> <td>--</td> <td>--</td> <td>--</td> <td>1</td> <td>1</td> </tr> <tr class="datatabledatahead"> <td colspan="4" class="bold" style="text-align: right;">TOTAL</td> <td>109</td> <td>1,424</td> <td>13.1</td> <td>63</td> <td>7</td> <td>1</td> <td>6</td> <td>6.0</td> <td>6</td> <td>0</td> <td>3</td> <td>2</td></tr></tbody></table>

[Cito Pelon]

He'll definitely be our 2nd option next year. He finished with 49 catches this year DESPITE missing the first five games or so and splitting time with Graham, thats VERY, VERY IMPRESSIVE, he finished in the top 10 among TEs in receptions. If he is fully healthy next year hopefully he will catch around 65 passes or so, maybe more. He's a huge monster in the making. I get tired of Graham taking snaps away from him, when only one TE is on the field, it should be him, not Graham.

Sheez, Sheff can't stay on the field. Dude loves to catch the ball, no doubt about that, but he can't play 10 games in a season.

[Punisher]

Him in the Rose Bowl in 2004
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7Mbbh-DkwgI

[SoCalBronco]

Here are his stats last year:

WEEK OPP RESULT REC YDS AVG LNG TD ATT YDS AVG LNG TD FUM LST
1 @STL W 27-13 1 9 9.0 9 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0
2 HOU L 34-21 3 25 8.3 12 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0
3 @ATL W 27-20 3 52 17.3 38 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0
4 TB L 20-7 2 16 8.0 10 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0
5 @NO W 16-13 4 74 18.5 43 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 1 0
6 @ARI W 25-10 3 29 9.7 15 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0
7 Bye
8 IND L 31-7 4 35 8.8 15 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0
9 @TEN L 20-7 3 30 10.0 12 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0
10 ATL L 20-13 Did Not Play
11 @GNB L 31-17 6 33 5.5 7 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0
12 NO L 31-6 2 21 10.5 14 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0
13 SF W 31-14 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0
14 @JAC L 37-6 1 8 8.0 8 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0
15 SEA W 13-10 Did Not Play
16 DAL L 20-13 Did Not Play
17 @TB W 31-23 Did Not Play

That's not too bad, its not like it was 32 receptions over 16 games, he missed 4 games, so he actually would project out (in his WORST year so far) at 43 receptions for the year. That's not bad at all. If he can catch 45 balls for us next year, I would be happy. After all, I think Scheff will be our real 2nd target, I expect him to haul in about 65 passes.

[Cito Pelon]

If Colbert could not keep doubles off Steve Smith how will he do it with Brandon ?

WTF??? How insane is that? Did no one here catch any Panther games in the past few years? We got screwed and Colbert is laughing all the way to the bank.

Depends on the QB and the O coaching staff.

[Punisher]

If Colbert could not keep doubles off Steve Smith how will he do it with Brandon ?

WTF??? How insane is that? Did no one here catch any Panther games in the past few years? We got screwed and Colbert is laughing all the way to the bank.

I know its too soon to say this but Steve Smith is no Brandon Marshall plus we got Stokley and Scheffler as well whos to say he's gonna be our 2nd WR ???

[Inkana7]

Sheez, Sheff can't stay on the field. Dude loves to catch the ball, no doubt about that, but he can't play 10 games in a season.

Can't stay on the field? The only injury he's ever suffered in his football career is a broken foot last year. You can't be serious.

We have some serious drama queens on this board.

Solid signing, and no, we did not overpay.

[oubronco]

Can't stay on the field? The only injury he's ever suffered in his football career is a broken foot last year. You can't be serious.

We have some serious drama queens on this board.

Solid signing, and no, we did not overpay.

could be solid time will tell but they might of overpayed a little though

[Punisher]

Nice Solid Sign here now lets bring in Boss Bailey and maybe a DT as well..

[Taco John]

I was very high on Colbert coming out of college, and am very pleased to have him as a Bronco. I expect that he's going to win the number two spot this season. I doubt that the Broncos want to use Stokley as anything but a number three.

[Popps]

I was very high on Colbert coming out of college, and am very pleased to have him as a Bronco. I expect that he's going to win the number two spot this season. I doubt that the Broncos want to use Stokley as anything but a number three.

Agree. Colbert will be a great #2 for us and those who wanted a "speed" guy need to understand that he's got enough. Keep in mind, our most productive offenses under Shanahan never really had a speed guy.

We'll now have three talented, smart, experienced receivers out there for Jay to throw to.

It's not the sexiest signing but I guarantee you this works out well for us.

[Hogan11]

I said this about Stokley last year and I'll say it about Colbert this year.

This guy will be a fan favorite by mid season.

Sorry Popps, but that's bullshat.

In the case of Stokley...I have never seen another FA pickup by the Broncos so loathed by this board in particular than Brandon was last season. Even though the guy was as clutch as people claim Elam to be game in and game out. They pointed to his age and his injury history and outright refused to aknowledge the contributions he made to the team when he was given the oppertunity to play.

Colbert will be a solid #3 WR (no way he beats out Stokley) and people will froth about it all season long...That is a guarentee you can bank on.

[SonOfLe-loLang]

Sorry Popps, but that's bullshat.

In the case of Stokley...I have never seen another FA pickup by the Broncos so loathed by this board in particular than Brandon was last season. Even though the guy was as clutch as people claim Elam to be game in and game out. They pointed to his age and his injury history and outright refused to aknowledge the contributions he made to the team when he was given the oppertunity to play.

Colbert will be a solid #3 WR (no way he beats out Stokley) and people will froth about it all season long...That is a guarentee you can bank on.


People HATED to stokely signing last year? We signed him for nothing, i dont remember that.

[SonOfLe-loLang]

could be solid time will tell but they might of overpayed a little though

I dont understand how we OVERPAID! His signing bonus, stretched over 3 years, isnt even a million a year. We paid him virtually nothing.

[Bronx33]

Sorry Popps, but that's bullshat.

In the case of Stokley...I have never seen another FA pickup by the Broncos so loathed by this board in particular than Brandon was last season. Even though the guy was as clutch as people claim Elam to be game in and game out. They pointed to his age and his injury history and outright refused to aknowledge the contributions he made to the team when he was given the oppertunity to play.

Colbert will be a solid #3 WR (no way he beats out Stokley) and people will froth about it all season long...That is a guarentee you can bank on.



Agreed colbert doesn't take the number 2 this year but stokley isn't getting any younger people have to keep this pick up in perspective and look more in the future for a payback.

[Hogan11]

People HATED to stokely signing last year? We signed him for nothing, i dont remember that.

Oh yeah....they thought he was damaged goods that was beyond reclaimation (the achillies thing), they were just flat out wrong.

[broncsyanks]

WOW how great. sarcastic. we need other things than a WR. sorry.

[Cito Pelon]

It's an excellent idea. Colbert isn't very fast or quick and doesn't play special teams. Looking at highlights from College isn't really showing anything either because that was five years ago and he hasn't done much since his rookie year. If he can block, his size will be helpful in the run game but we need more speed and and a true return man. Hopefully he'll develop to more of a third receiver than he was with Carolina, but another option would cover all our bases.

Dude doesn't play ST's, eh? That's not so good. Martinez can play ST's just fine, but sure the team needs to draft a WR somewhere, or maybe another cheap WR FA. I heard some talk about a guy from Arizona that got my interest. Bottom line is these guys have to play ST's. ST's are a big deal.

[Dukes]

These are the types of signing that we should have been making the past few years. The type of signings we made in the mid 90's. Won't make the front page of ESPN, but provides the team with solid depth and experience.

[Punisher]

Dude doesn't play ST's, eh? That's not so good. Martinez can play ST's just fine, but sure the team needs to draft a WR somewhere, or maybe another cheap WR FA. I heard some talk about a guy from Arizona that got my interest. Bottom line is these guys have to play ST's. ST's are a big deal.

Hey Martinez ran a Punt back but he fumbled alot too...We need a good punt returner I hope Shanny picks up one in the later Rounds of the NFL draft

[Bronx33]

Hey Martinez ran a Punt back but he fumbled alot too...We need a good punt returner I hope Shanny picks up one in the later Rounds of the NFL draft


Iam not real big on martinez he sacres me when hes running the ball kinda out of control if you ask me.

[Paladin]

Shanahan has said Stokely will not play more than 20 plays a game, and will remain in the slot. Keary has the #2 all to himself if he can hold it against Martinez and Jacobs. Given the fiscal position of the Broncos, this is precisely the type of signing I expect to see from them this year. A guy who plays a need position, has some upside, and is a less expensive veteran, if slightly unknown to the faithful hereon.

Good signing. Now, they need a S, LB or a DT, and the draft will take care of itself....

[Merlin]

Oh yeah....they thought he was damaged goods that was beyond reclaimation (the achillies thing), they were just flat out wrong.
You are just pissed because there is a fan base that justifiably argued from midseason on that BM should be the primary WR. However, BS was not hated, he was very well appreciated by most members of the mane by midseason, he was just not perceived by many as being superior to BM. To be honest, in his best yr BS was not as good as BM, much less now...that being said, he is probably the BEST #3 WR in the league, and one of the better ones from the slot.

It is ok to criticize w/o hating, and there is no need to misrepresent those who disagree with you (that is, most of the mane did not see him as a damaged good despite your claim, and much less by midseason, which was Popps claim)

[Cito Pelon]

Can't stay on the field? The only injury he's ever suffered in his football career is a broken foot last year. You can't be serious.

We have some serious drama queens on this board.

Solid signing, and no, we did not overpay.

Me and "drama queen" don't go together. I'll mark you as number one on my list to target to attack if you ever do that again. Scheff hasn't played in many games for a young man. He has a lot of TD's, but I don't think he has the backbone to play in the NFL for many a year.

[Cito Pelon]

Hey Martinez ran a Punt back but he fumbled alot too...We need a good punt returner I hope Shanny picks up one in the later Rounds of the NFL draft

Martinez is nothing to be concerned about right now. Dude is fine at PR and #3 WR. LB is a big deal. S is a big deal. OT is a big deal. I was shocked Chris Myers was given the low deal. Any team can have Myers for a sixth-rounder.

[Merlin]

Me and "drama queen" don't go together. I'll mark you as number one on my list to target to attack if you ever do that again.
I hope the irony does not escape you :D

[Cito Pelon]

Iam not real big on martinez he sacres me when hes running the ball kinda out of control if you ask me.

I like Martinez, and this is the kind of guy you want on your team. Dude attacks all the time. You want a team made up of men like that. Men that aren't scared.

[Bronx33]

I like Martinez, and this is the kind of guy you want on your team. Dude attacks all the time. You want a team made up of men like that. Men that aren't scared.


He just looks like the guy that will fumble a game away or just get flat knocked out.

[DB_champ24]

I like the sign...Nothing to big but I think he will fit in nicely at the #2 WR...I mean look at his QB situation last year in Carolina...David Carr then the 400 Year old Vinny and he still did decent...Hes going to have Cutler throwing to him this season and I really think Cutler can make a guy like Colbert look better than he really is ...And hes from USC!!!!!!! I like him alot better than Martinez!

[silverwing]

I like Martinez, and this is the kind of guy you want on your team. Dude attacks all the time. You want a team made up of men like that. Men that aren't scared.

He flat out SUCKS!!

[Cito Pelon]

I hope the irony does not escape you :D

I'll examine that.

[Cito Pelon]

He just looks like the guy that will fumble a game away or just get flat knocked out.

I don't buy that. Dude blocks like a demon. Dude has placed the best blocks of any member of the team in 2007. Also did a fine job returning punts, returned one for a TD. Martinez is a guy I want on the team, tough player.

[wolf754life]

blah, he is a good #4 WR............nothing less, nothing more.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[DB_champ24]

He just looks like the guy that will fumble a game away or just get flat knocked out.

I agree..I dont like Martinez too much.

[Inkana7]

He flat out SUCKS!!

Prove it.

[Bob]

Schefter says 3 years, 2.42 mil per. High for his past production, but considering the market - not bad. Hopefully, between he, Martinez or Jacobs - we can find some depth. If Colbert can stretch the field and take some attention from BMarsh, Stokley and Scheffler - it's worth it.

Hes not that type of player -- 4.62 speed. Still a decent pickup though we we still need a speedster, like "the claw," without the claw that is.

[Punisher]

Hes not that type of player -- 4.62 speed. Still a decent pickup though we we still need a speedster, like "the claw," without the claw that is.

Ha! Ha! :notworthy :notworthy

[Bob]

If he cant supplant Stokley as a #2 and if he cant stretch the field, what exactly is he adding?

Stokley was built for the slot -- and will pickup his catches there -- get a guy to take number two, and Stokely will last a couple more years, and we woudl likely get almost as much production out him...

I see this pickup competing with another vet -- there may be some older guys that beat out this kid.

[Bob]

He'll definitely be our 2nd option next year. He finished with 49 catches this year DESPITE missing the first five games or so and splitting time with Graham, thats VERY, VERY IMPRESSIVE, he finished in the top 10 among TEs in receptions. If he is fully healthy next year hopefully he will catch around 65 passes or so, maybe more. He's a huge monster in the making. I get tired of Graham taking snaps away from him, when only one TE is on the field, it should be him, not Graham.

Someone may have posted a correction here already. The 49 catches was his rookie year from what I heard -- last year was just north of 30.

[peacepipe]

Not really a speed burner, that will be B-Marsh and maybe a draft selection, Colbert is more of a possesion reciever.
But in theis offense that's what is needed.

Plus he isn't running on a knee that needs Microfracture.Bmarsh is a posession reciever,he may be Cutlers #1 reciever but he isn't the type of receiver who will stretch the field. He's not a speed burner. If Colbert can't stretch the field niether will Bmarsh.

[Taco John]

Bmarsh is a posession reciever,he may be Cutlers #1 reciever but he isn't the type of receiver who will stretch the field. He's not a speed burner. If Colbert can't stretch the field niether will Bmarsh.


Which did you think was better at stretching the field?

Rod Smith or Eddie McCaffrey?

[peacepipe]

He'll definitely be our 2nd option next year. He finished with 49 catches this year DESPITE missing the first five games or so and splitting time with Graham, thats VERY, VERY IMPRESSIVE, he finished in the top 10 among TEs in receptions. If he is fully healthy next year hopefully he will catch around 65 passes or so, maybe more. He's a huge monster in the making. I get tired of Graham taking snaps away from him, when only one TE is on the field, it should be him, not Graham.

until Scheffler learns to block as well as graham, he will be Grahams back up.

[peacepipe]

Which did you think was better at stretching the field?

Rod Smith or Eddie McCaffrey?
point taken, but both were great with there routes.I'm not downplaying bmarsh but i'm not trying upplay(is this an actuall word/phrase)him either.

[Taco John]

point taken, but both were great with there routes.I'm not downplaying bmarsh but i'm not trying upplay(is this an actuall word/phrase)him either.


Terrell Owens doesn't stretch the field either, by the way... He's just real good at grabbing footballs and doing something with it once he has it in his hands.

[lex]

You want to trade the draft for MF, by far one of the positions of least needs in the team, and you criticize the acquisition of a WR whose salary is 1/50th the cap and who showed a lot of talent in his rookie yr. Granted, he has laid an egg the following couple of yrs, but then so has the offence of that whole team. This is a very reasonable cost for a gamble. It neither hurts the cap, the roster or the draft. Talk about being inconsistent.

Now youre just making stuff up.

[Ratboy]

We'll see how it pans out. I'm sure it's cheap and nothing to costly, If he succeeds, good, if not, Shanahan needs to be fired (just kidding)

[Killericon]

Low-Risk, High Reward. These are signings I like, but this should'nt perclude us from signing or drafting another WR.

[SleepingTiger]

I don't know much about him, but I like what I see from the highlights.

Sure hands
Fights for the ball
Catches the ball at its highest point
Catches with his hands
Good football speed


The only bad thing I see is that he gets turned around catching the ball

[sixtimeseight]

until Scheffler learns to block as well as graham, he will be Grahams back up.

Yep. If anyone really believes that Scheffler should be in the game instead of Graham on a 1 TE set running play, you don't really understand the game of football.

[fontaine]

I like the signing. We already have a genuine number 1 WR with a stud slot guy in Stokely.

Colbeart will be just fine catching fast balls from Cutler.

[CBF1]

Cheap Players don't come good, Good players don't come cheap.... We are no better off than last season. Javon Walker > Keary Colbert

[Killericon]

Cheap Players don't come good, Good players don't come cheap.... We are no better off than last season. Javon Walker > Keary Colbert

http://static.nfl.com/static/content/catch_all/nfl_image/B_Stokely_111907_SL.jpg

[Hogan11]

You are just pissed because there is a fan base that justifiably argued from midseason on that BM should be the primary WR. However, BS was not hated, he was very well appreciated by most members of the mane by midseason, he was just not perceived by many as being superior to BM. To be honest, in his best yr BS was not as good as BM, much less now...that being said, he is probably the BEST #3 WR in the league, and one of the better ones from the slot.

It is ok to criticize w/o hating, and there is no need to misrepresent those who disagree with you (that is, most of the mane did not see him as a damaged good despite your claim, and much less by midseason, which was Popps claim)

You must specialize in misrepresenting then because your post couldn't be further from the actual truth.

[Drek]

Colbert is a good guy to have in the mix, but I hope we draft a WR by the 4th round. This is a nice class and we should be able to find someone who can be a promising #2 of the future and at the same time be a great return man.

Dexter Jackson or Desean Jackson would be nice. Eddie Royal would be as well. Someone with some blazing speed to develop into a threat.

As for next year, I wouldn't be surprised if we move to more of a two TE set, using Scheffler basically as our #2 WR. If thats the case then Colbert is going to be in a very similar role to Stokley, which I think will fit him well.

[brother love]

Anybody here think that Brandon Lloyd we be a good #2 here?
If the price is right they should look at him.

[crazyhorse]

I don't know much about him, but I like what I see from the highlights.

Sure hands
Fights for the ball
Catches the ball at its highest point
Catches with his hands
Good football speed


The only bad thing I see is that he gets turned around catching the ball

Well........that, and he doesn't produce.

[Popcorn Sutton]

Well........that, and he doesn't produce.

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[crazyhorse]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=9776 :wave:



I dont see how Webb will help Colberts production numbers.

Please explain.

One can only assume you must agree with my post. Or you would have had better ammunition.

[Popcorn Sutton]

I dont see how Webb will help Colberts production numbers.

Please explain.

One can only assume you must agree with my post. Or you would have had better ammunition.

I guess I'm not sure you should be talking... which is why I posted your number 2 receiver stats. I am not going to come out and say Colbert has been very productive because he hasn't been. He did play well when Steve Smith went down in 2004 so we'll see. I am satisfied at this point with Stokley and Colbert to compliment Marshall.

[crazyhorse]

I guess I'm not sure you should be talking... which is why I posted your number 2 receiver stats. I am not going to come out and say Colbert has been very productive because he hasn't been. He did play well when Steve Smith went down in 2004 so we'll see. I am satisfied at this point with Stokley and Colbert to compliment Marshall.


In the future, you should understand that Jeff Webb doersn't have to produce at a high level for me to understand enough about football to see that Colbert hasn't done ****.

He might be good for the Broncos. Who knows. I was simply pointing out that the only hitch in his game cant be that "he gets turned around". His production numbers would indicate there is more to it than that.

[NYBronco]

I don't know the Colbert kid and his football skills but if he is competing against Stokely my guess is if Stokely stays it will be due to a pay cut. Stokely has good WR skills.

Wow, eight pages and counting for this FA signing.

[Popcorn Sutton]

In the future, you should understand that Jeff Webb doersn't have to produce at a high level for me to understand enough about football to see that Colbert hasn't done ****.

He might be good for the Broncos. Who knows. I was simply pointing out that the only hitch in his game cant be that "he gets turned around". His production numbers would indicate there is more to it than that.

It's all part of my point. Keary Colbert missed 4 games last season and still had more receptions than Jeff Webb. The Panthers were a LOT deeper at wideout last season which also plays into this discussion because Dwayne Jarrett and Drew Carter saw a decent amount of playing time taking away from Colbert's numbers. The Panthers have had a plethora of QB issues, (see David Carr and Matt Moore) they have one of the best number 1 receivers in the game and yet Colbert still managed to come up with more receptions than your number 2. Perhaps your statment "Well..... that, and he doesn't produce," doesn't take all the factors into consideration?

[Dedhed]

I think this is a fine signing. Nothing groundbreaking, but solid. It's hard to get a read on Colbert's career at this level because of his situation in Carolina, but I think he's the type of receiver who could do well here.

He's sort of the anti-claw; he doesn't get a ton of seperation, but is very good at going to the ball and making the catch over and around a defender. He does have great hands, and I think Cutler will be able to maximize his abilities here.

I don't think this signing should preclude us from taking a WR in the draft with #2/return ability, but he's certainly an upgrade over Martinez and will allow us to be more frugal with Stokely.

There are a lot of receivers in this draft that intrigue me. I'd have a hard time passing on Devon Thomas in the 2nd. There's Jordy Nelson who I would love if we manage to score a 3rd round pick; or Earl Bennett, William Franklin. There's Dexter Jackson on day 2.

[crazyhorse]

It's all part of my point. Keary Colbert missed 4 games last season and still had more receptions than Jeff Webb. The Panthers were a LOT deeper at wideout last season which also plays into this discussion because Dwayne Jarrett and Drew Carter saw a decent amount of playing time taking away from Colbert's numbers. The Panthers have had a plethora of QB issues, (see David Carr and Matt Moore) they have one of the best number 1 receivers in the game and yet Colbert still managed to come up with more receptions than your number 2. Perhaps your statment "Well..... that, and he doesn't produce," doesn't take all the factors into consideration?

Comparing him to another reciever that sucks is no endorsement for Colbert.

What you call factor, I call excuses

[elsid13]

Anybody here think that Brandon Lloyd we be a good #2 here?
If the price is right they should look at him.

No, according to folk in the skins fan base, he is a prick in the locker room and doesn't like to bust his butt in practice.

[Crushisback]

Do we know the $ figures on this yet?

[Popcorn Sutton]

Comparing him to another reciever that sucks is no endorsement for Colbert.

What you call factor, I call excuses

I guess we'll have to see.

It's interesting you over here throwing stones when the Chiefs lost 9 straight games to finish the season.

[broncofan7]

Anybody here think that Brandon Lloyd we be a good #2 here?
If the price is right they should look at him.

that is an excellent observation--he does have deep speed and would certainly fill a need that we have imho

[cabronco]

Do we know the $ figures on this yet?

Keary Colbert-WR- Broncos Mar. 1 - 8:51 pm et

Broncos signed Keary Colbert to a three-year, $7.2 million contract, including a $2.5 million signing bonus.

A surprising move by Denver, and a dream second chance for Colbert to turn his career around. The Broncos loved Colbert coming out of USC, but he's had a crisis of confidence the last few years. Denver will add talent, but Colbert will compete to start.
Source: NFL.com

[Ray Finkle]

that is an excellent observation--he does have deep speed and would certainly fill a need that we have imho

the name Ashley Lelie ring a bell? BL is like him with more a me first attitude. Not tough, avoids contact, and drops many easy balls.

Colbert is far better.

[-Slap-]

This is the kind of signing I was hoping to see. A young player who's shown that he can produce in the right circumstances. No physical issues. No off the field bullcrap. Most importantly, it's a signing that will directly benefit the most crucial player on the team. This off season should be primarily about helping Jay as much as possible.

I still want to see us look for at least one receiver on draft day. I don't want one in round two, unless the value is simply off the chart. I think at least a couple real good ones could slide into round four in this deep class.

[cmhargrove]

Don't you guys remember that Cutler tends to make receivers "play up?" Remember Kircus? I think this is a very good signing. It keeps Marshall as the true #1, but brings in a young guy with good experience. We can draft another kid this year and let him develop - great move. This guy hasn't lit it up yet, but he surely isn't a scrub. I think this is a really good move for the team.

Marshall and Colbert on the outsides, Stokely in the slot, then either Scheff or Graham at TE, that sounds like more than enough weapons to me. Especially if Henry stays healthy and the O-line is working. This is very good for the team, and it helps with the pecking order. Marshall is the clear #1 as he should be.

It's true, people around here are just getting too negative. Jerry Porter just got 30 mil. This guy gets 7.5. If this guy can hold on to Cutler's passes and get 600-800 yards and 4-8 TD's, he is a steal.

[Inkana7]

I guess we'll have to see.

It's interesting you over here throwing stones when the Chiefs lost 9 straight games to finish the season.

Don't bother arguing with crazyhorse. He's always right. About everything. He's never wrong. Ask him, he'll tell you.

[elsid13]

This is the kind of signing I was hoping to see. A young player who's shown that he can produce in the right circumstances. No physical issues. No off the field bullcrap. Most importantly, it's a signing that will directly benefit the most crucial player on the team. This off season should be primarily about helping Jay as much as possible.

I still want to see us look for at least one receiver on draft day. I don't want one in round two, unless the value is simply off the chart. I think at least a couple real good ones could slide into round four in this deep class.

It is strong class for WR, there going to be one in the fourth that has chance to be strong contributor to this team. I like Bowman, Monk (surprising speed) or kid from KSU to be seating there and nice future 2WR for Denver

[-Slap-]

It's true, people around here are just getting too negative. Jerry Porter just got 30 mil. This guy gets 7.5. If this guy can hold on to Cutler's passes and get 600-800 yards and 4-8 TD's, he is a steal.

Great illustration of the value of this deal.

[Taco John]

I still want to see us look for at least one receiver on draft day. I don't want one in round two, unless the value is simply off the chart. I think at least a couple real good ones could slide into round four in this deep class.



This is why the Mane should be given the second round pick each year -- so we don't end up with a wide receiver from Marshall with a bum paw as our "off the chart value" second rounder.

We would have definitely prevented that from ever happening... :P

[Drek]

This is the kind of signing I was hoping to see. A young player who's shown that he can produce in the right circumstances. No physical issues. No off the field bullcrap. Most importantly, it's a signing that will directly benefit the most crucial player on the team. This off season should be primarily about helping Jay as much as possible.

I still want to see us look for at least one receiver on draft day. I don't want one in round two, unless the value is simply off the chart. I think at least a couple real good ones could slide into round four in this deep class.

I like the looks of this draft probably 20+ guys deep at WR. If we can get just one of Dexter Jackson, Eddie Royal, Earl Bennett, Adarius Bowman, Andre Caldwell, or now maybe even Mario Manningham in the 4th we're walking away with a huge steal.

And I think Mannginham's poor combine is going to really hurt him. He needs a stellar pro day or he'll slide. Too many other guys did very well at the combine, he's being compared to them athletically and he's not matching up well on paper. That could be great though, if he slides to the early 3rd we should pounce, he'd be an exceptional #2 across form Marshall.

[NW Bolt Fan]

IMO, it's a good signing for the donks. He's young, has potential, and knows the game. He'll do well in Denver.

Still need O-line help, but he's a good player.

[-Slap-]

I hope we keep looking at lower priced WR talent. Some good looking players out there.

Bryant Johnson is the most attractive option, but I expect a small bidding war to erupt over him. He really doesn't belong on this list.

Marty Booker would be a terrific pickup if he could be signed cheap. He would become a third down favorite in no time.

Jabar Gaffney made a lot of clutch plays for New England down the stretch last year.

Justin McCareins has been plagued by drops, but he's a big strong guy who shouldn't cost much.

Devery Henderson stretches defenses, but he stretches your patience with his drops. Will be overpaid by someone.

[BroncoBuff]

Colbert is a good guy to have in the mix, but I hope we draft a WR by the 4th round. This is a nice class and we should be able to find someone who can be a promising #2 of the future and at the same time be a great return man.

Dexter Jackson or Desean Jackson would be nice. Eddie Royal would be as well. Someone with some blazing speed to develop into a threat.
Why does it have to be such a high pick? Methinks WRs are a bad early pick in general (see Ed McCaffrey, Rod Smith, Brandon Marshall) .... so why not Earl Bennett or a burner like Andre Caldwell in the 4th? One of those two might be available. I'm not sure Dexter Jackson will even get drafted ... if he does, it will be on his 40-time alone. Eddie Royal would be okay, but a 4th is too high.


Slap - Marty Booker would be excellent in the red zone, is he affordable?

[Bronco Billy]

We have too man other needs to be addressed to take a WR in the first two rounds. I hope they listen to all of us.

[Inkana7]

I think Colbert will be good for us. We had a pretty efficient offense towards the end of the year with Glenn Martinez lining up as our #2 and without Stokley.

I'm thinking he'll put up maybe 40-50 catches, 600-800 yards, and a few TDs. With Marshall, Scheffler, Graham and Stokley in the same offense, he won't need to catch that many balls to be effective.

[Dudeskey]

Anybody here think that Brandon Lloyd we be a good #2 here?
If the price is right they should look at him.

if its for one of those cheapie look-see contracts, I'd bring him in... I keep hearing about what a pass-dropping machine he is

[NW Bolt Fan]

if its for one of those cheapie look-see contracts, I'd bring him in... I keep hearing about what a pass-dropping machine he isHe's not a pass-dropping machine. Likely haters. People were saying the same about Chris Chambers. All he did was catch most everything thrown at him... Colbert has good hands, and routinely makes circus catches. Dude was nothing short of rock solid at SC.

[Dudeskey]

He's not a pass-dropping machine. Likely haters. People were saying the same about Chris Chambers. All he did was catch most everything thrown at him... Colbert has good hands, and routinely makes circus catches. Dude was nothing short of rock solid at SC.

I'm not worried about Colbert... I know at the time he was said to be the best route runner out of USC's WR's when he came out for the draft.

[lex]

He's not a pass-dropping machine. Likely haters. People were saying the same about Chris Chambers. All he did was catch most everything thrown at him... Colbert has good hands, and routinely makes circus catches. Dude was nothing short of rock solid at SC.



So too were other guys in college. Charles Rogers, Mike Williams, Reche Caldwell, Jabar Gaffney, Dwayne Jarrett, Marcus Nash, Ashlie Lelie, Mike Clayton, Pearless Price, etc. Its a long list of guys who were rock solid (even moreso than Colbert) that didnt get it done in the NFL.

[Drek]

Why does it have to be such a high pick? Methinks WRs are a bad early pick in general (see Ed McCaffrey, Rod Smith, Brandon Marshall) .... so why not Earl Bennett or a burner like Andre Caldwell in the 4th? One of those two might be available. I'm not sure Dexter Jackson will even get drafted ... if he does, it will be on his 40-time alone. Eddie Royal would be okay, but a 4th is too high.


Slap - Marty Booker would be excellent in the red zone, is he affordable?

Dexter Jackson should get drafted, and pretty early. He's the best WR on the best DI-AA school in the country pretty much three years running. He made Michigan's D1-A kids look like a bunch of lead footed clods on opening weekend. Since then he's been a stud at the shrine game and was great at the combine. He's not a 40 time, he's a player who gets overshadowed because he played at a small school.

And when I say "by the 4th" I mean 3rd or 4th rounds. I'd love to get Earl Bennett or Andre Caldwell. If we acquire a 3rd and someone like Mario Manningham is sitting there because his combine numbers didn't impress then jump, but otherwise sit back and let a value steal like all the afore mentioned guys come to you.

Hell, I wouldn't mind if we used a 4th and a 5th, or both 4ths for that matter, on WRs.

[B-Love]

The Stokely and Colbert acquisitions have me waxing nostalgic, as usual.

The signing of Stokely off of a year in which he was a Super Bowl champ, reminds me of us grabbing McCaffrey in 1995, after he was a small part of the 1994 49ers. Much like Stokely in 2006, McCaffrey had very little significance in the championship.

The difference here is Stokely was a pretty big piece in 2005, though the Colts did not win anything.

And the Colbert signing for the number 3 spot, reminds me of the Willie Green signing, also from the Panthers, back in 1997. Colbert's game is more dynamic, but Willie Green made some pretty big plays during his 2 seasons in Denver, out of the 3rd WR position.

Could Marshall, Stokely and Colbert be the new Rod, Eddie and Willie Green?? And if Shanny stops dicking around with Scheffler, and actually lets him be confident all season long, perhaps he could put up 60-70 Receptions as well.

Just having some fun here!

[Florida_Bronco]

The Stokely and Colbert acquisitions have me waxing nostalgic, as usual.

The signing of Stokely off of a year in which he was a Super Bowl champ, reminds me of us grabbing McCaffrey in 1995, after he was a small part of the 1994 49ers. Much like Stokely in 2006, McCaffrey had very little significance in the championship.

The difference here is Stokely was a pretty big piece in 2005, though the Colts did not win anything.

And the Colbert signing for the number 3 spot, reminds me of the Willie Green signing, also from the Panthers, back in 1997. Colbert's game is more dynamic, but Willie Green made some pretty big plays during his 2 seasons in Denver, out of the 3rd WR position.

Could Marshall, Stokely and Colbert be the new Rod, Eddie and Willie Green?? And if Shanny stops dicking around with Scheffler, and actually lets him be confident all season long, perhaps he could put up 60-70 Receptions as well.

Just having some fun here!

Willie Green definetly carried his weight for us, he was a good player. He was also the guy who caught the pass that put Elway over 50,000 yards.

[yerner]

Not a big fan of Colbert, but whatever, I hope he does well. I think Cutler will get the ball to him if he plays.