View Full Version : Jason Taylor and Phins part ways.
Miami Dolphins defensive end Jason Taylor has already moved away from South Florida. The only thing left is to figure out his next address.
Three sources close to the Dolphins organization said this week that Taylor and the team he has been part of for 11 years have graciously agreed to part ways between now and the NFL draft April 26. There’s no animosity between Taylor and new Dolphins guru Bill Parcells or coach Tony Sparano.
There are just plans that each side has. Those plans don’t include each other.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AggucAHBCzHQHNaNZtPPRXlDubYF?slug=jc-taylor030108&prov=yhoo&type=lgns&
illbroncsfn
03-01-2008, 07:31 PM
Jason Taylor would have been a great addition for us two years ago........ just not now w/our young DE's needing playing to emerge.
montrose
03-01-2008, 07:32 PM
Jason Taylor would have been a great addition for us two years ago........ just not now w/our young DE's needing playing to emerge.
Exactly.
That One Guy
03-01-2008, 07:33 PM
And someone, probably PFT, mentioned a 2nd and a 4th or something like that for him. You can't trade for the guy's previous success, just the player he will be in the future. No thanks.
epicSocialism4tw
03-01-2008, 07:45 PM
Jason Taylor is a freak.
No matter who you have on your roster, you make room for a guy like that. Especially when your defensive line is absolute rubbish.
The guy was the DPOY a season ago.
Bring him in to play with Champ.
Atwater His Ass
03-01-2008, 07:56 PM
No, you don't bring him in. We've made moves to address the DE situation. I wish him well though.
epicSocialism4tw
03-01-2008, 07:58 PM
No, you don't bring him in. We've made moves to address the DE situation. I wish him well though.
Yeah, we have more than enough to make up for what Jason Taylor could bring to this defense.
Wake up people.
Football isnt only about offense.
Northman
03-01-2008, 08:23 PM
Miami say hello to Chris Long. lmao
azbroncfan
03-01-2008, 08:38 PM
Newsflash.....New England signs FA Jason Taylor.
Atwater His Ass
03-01-2008, 08:40 PM
Yeah, we have more than enough to make up for what Jason Taylor could bring to this defense.
Wake up people.
Football isnt only about offense.
We've dumped resources into the DE position. We sink or swim with the investments we've made there. We have too many other needs on this team to throw more resources at a position of non-need.
Newsflash.....New England signs FA Jason Taylor.
Not out right release or cut. It's going to be a trade.
broncofan2438
03-01-2008, 08:57 PM
Bring Taylor in damnit!
SoCalBronco
03-01-2008, 09:02 PM
We've dumped resources into the DE position. We sink or swim with the investments we've made there. .
cosign
Popps
03-01-2008, 09:48 PM
We've dumped resources into the DE position. We sink or swim with the investments we've made there. We have too many other needs on this team to throw more resources at a position of non-need.
Are you ****ing serious? "addressed the position?" Good sweet Christ. We don't have ONE legitimate, proven starter and we're not going to look at a guy like Taylor?
Sad thing is, he's probably right. We'll poo poo the position like we have for the last decade
yavoon
03-01-2008, 09:50 PM
Miami say hello to Chris Long. lmao
as what? an OLB. maybe.
as what? an OLB. maybe.
He's played it in college.
Punisher
03-01-2008, 10:04 PM
Bring Taylor in damnit!
Pretty please bring him in Please Please Please bring him in!!!!
Kaylore
03-01-2008, 10:08 PM
Parcells is going to put in the 3-4 and CHRIS Long will be the guy to start that. It's going to be funny seeing how they try to use Ian Gold who was too small for a 4-3. Ian in a 3-4 is going to look ridiculous...even redicules!
yavoon
03-01-2008, 10:09 PM
Parcells is going to put in the 3-4 and Jake Long will be the guy to start that. It's going to be funny seeing how they try to use Ian Gold who was too small for a 4-3. Ian in a 3-4 is going to look ridiculous...even redicules!
jake long is an offensive lineman.
Kaylore
03-01-2008, 10:15 PM
jake long is an offensive lineman.
Doh! :homer:
Parcells is going to put in the 3-4 and CHRIS Long will be the guy to start that. It's going to be funny seeing how they try to use Ian Gold who was too small for a 4-3. Ian in a 3-4 is going to look ridiculous...even redicules!
The Phins didn't sign Gold. It was a type error.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/transactions
broncsyanks
03-01-2008, 10:58 PM
all i know is that we signed kevin coebert!! yeah baby!! woohoo!! yeah why would we want to have a DE that can still play a hell of a game when we signed engelberger!! and he is still healthy. you people are freakin kidden me if you dont want to have him. even if he is good for 3-4 years. i would give them a 2 and next years 2 or 3.
TheReverend
03-01-2008, 10:59 PM
Parcells is going to put in the 3-4 and CHRIS Long will be the guy to start that. It's going to be funny seeing how they try to use Ian Gold who was too small for a 4-3. Ian in a 3-4 is going to look ridiculous...even redicules!
Yeah... Parcells has a terrible history with building defenses... WTF does he know?
wolf754life
03-02-2008, 12:21 AM
jason taylor is a one man pass rush, get him in here yesterday!!!
Victor
03-02-2008, 12:24 AM
Jason Taylor wants to be an actor. Pass.
Atwater His Ass
03-02-2008, 12:38 AM
Are you ****ing serious? "addressed the position?" Good sweet Christ. We don't have ONE legitimate, proven starter and we're not going to look at a guy like Taylor?
Sad thing is, he's probably right. We'll poo poo the position like we have for the last decade
Dumervile, Crowder, Moss, Engleberger, Ekuban. How many more DE's you want on the roster? You want to cut Engleberger or Ekuban and sign Taylor to a cap friendly deal? Yeah, me too. Going to happen? Nope.
Why bust the bank on yet another aging veteran defensive lineman when you have 3 young guys we've invested draft choices in coupled with 2 veterans they can learn from? The new philosphy is to get away from these type of moves.
DT is where we need to be looking to upgrade. We don't need help at DE.
Jetmeck
03-02-2008, 12:50 AM
Are you ****ing serious? "addressed the position?" Good sweet Christ. We don't have ONE legitimate, proven starter and we're not going to look at a guy like Taylor?
Sad thing is, he's probably right. We'll poo poo the position like we have for the last decade
I tend to agree with that assessment. Doom is very good at times but then disappears for games at a time and he is
not stout against the run and he is the best we have right now. I would bring Taylor in.
Atwater His Ass
03-02-2008, 12:54 AM
We have A LOT more pressing need at DT, LB, and S then we do at DE.
Punisher
03-02-2008, 12:59 AM
Dumervile, Crowder, Moss, Engleberger, Ekuban. How many more DE's you want on the roster? You want to cut Engleberger or Ekuban and sign Taylor to a cap friendly deal? Yeah, me too. Going to happen? Nope.
Why bust the bank on yet another aging veteran defensive lineman when you have 3 young guys we've invested draft choices in coupled with 2 veterans they can learn from? The new philosphy is to get away from these type of moves.
DT is where we need to be looking to upgrade. We don't need help at DE.
How about move him to the Weakside LB he did move around in that 3-4 D in the Phins he was everywhere DT,RE,LE,MLB, the man is a beast hands down..
Atwater His Ass
03-02-2008, 01:02 AM
The absuridty has reached new heights when we want to sign Jason Taylor to play WLB and/or MLB in our 4-3 defense based on him being able to rush/blitz from an outside backer position in a 3-4 defense.
Natedog24
03-02-2008, 01:05 AM
How about move him to the Weakside LB he did move around in that 3-4 D in the Phins he was everywhere DT,RE,LE,MLB, the man is a beast hands down..
I think we should give him a shot at LT as well, he could probably play QB too, but I think with Cutler there we would have more pressing needs at the offensive line. Of course if Denver drafts a LT then we could move Taylor to WR to replace Walker.
Punisher
03-02-2008, 01:07 AM
The absuridty has reached new heights when we want to sign Jason Taylor to play WLB and/or MLB in our 4-3 defense based on him being able to rush/blitz from an outside backer position in a 3-4 defense.
Yea does sound far fetch but you see where i'm getting at signing Taylor doesnt make him just a DE but much more he can move around in our D-Line rotating around..
Punisher
03-02-2008, 01:09 AM
I think we should give him a shot at LT as well, he could probably play QB too, but I think with Cutler there we would have more pressing needs at the offensive line. Of course if Denver drafts a LT then we could move Taylor to WR to replace Walker.
LMAO :~ohyah!: :~ohyah!: ok ok he's not that good
Natedog24
03-02-2008, 01:11 AM
LMAO :~ohyah!: :~ohyah!: ok ok he's not that good
Sorry I couldn't resist ;D
Punisher
03-02-2008, 01:13 AM
I quit...:)
Popps
03-02-2008, 04:07 AM
Dumervile, Crowder, Moss, Engleberger, Ekuban. .
Dumerville - Nice situational player who struggles against the run and can be handled easily by the better tackles.
Crowder - An absolute unknown who showed almost nothing in the way of flashes last year.
Moss - A potential bright spot but coming off of a bad injury, is undersized and has less than a season under his belt.
Engleberger - Are you ****ing serious?
Ekuban - Was a B- player before he tore up his Achilles. Now a year older and attempting to come back from an injury that has helped end the career of several older players.
Yea, that's a stellar group, there. Who needs a perennial Pro Bowl player coming off of 24.5 sacks in two seasons when you have a sure-fire group of studs like we have, huh?
You want to cut Engleberger or Ekuban and sign Taylor to a cap friendly deal?
No.
I want to cut Engleberer... regardless of any other move we make.
As for Taylor, I'd like to pay him accordingly.
See, quality players get paid well. You may notice that the only two guys we have worth a **** on our defense also happen to have contracts that reflect those skills. We're not starting a piggy-bank, here. We're attempting to field a talented football team. Bargain-bin shopping on the D-line has killed us for a decade. (That and flat-out refusing to draft any first day players until last year.)
Why bust the bank on yet another aging veteran defensive lineman w.
He's 33. Strahan is 36 and was absolutely crucial in the Giants SB season.
Don't compare Apples to Oranges by bringing up an injured schmuck like Simeon Rice, either.
DT is where we need to be looking to upgrade. We don't need help at DE.
We need help at BOTH. If you don't think so, you're simply not watching closely enough.
But, you'll get your wish. We don't take the positions seriously, as a rule... so we'll likely pass on the impact players available and opt for the crap-can band of cast-offs and scrubs we usually bring in.
Popps
03-02-2008, 04:09 AM
I tend to agree with that assessment. Doom is very good at times but then disappears for games at a time and he is
not stout against the run and he is the best we have right now. I would bring Taylor in.
Elvis makes a nice play now and again. He'll put together a good game against a team like Cleveland or Oakland.
But, in our biggest games over the last two years, you won't find his name called much. He's handled easily by the better tackles. He's a situational guy that needs the right match-ups and certainly needs better talent lined up next to him.
I love the kid. We just need to help him out by using him correctly and getting some real pros on our line.
Headless Hessian Rider
03-02-2008, 05:46 AM
How could we afford his salary cap numbers of his current contract? 7,5 -8 Milion per year! No way we land him, despite the fact that he's a beast and produced year by year. To sad.
Kaylore
03-02-2008, 11:22 AM
Elvis makes a nice play now and again. He'll put together a good game against a team like Cleveland or Oakland.
But, in our biggest games over the last two years, you won't find his name called much. He's handled easily by the better tackles. He's a situational guy that needs the right match-ups and certainly needs better talent lined up next to him.
I love the kid. We just need to help him out by using him correctly and getting some real pros on our line.
Yeah like when he rolled two sacks against the Steelers and forced a fumble for a TD. And then there were his two sacks against that crappy Jags team. And then that sack against the horrid San Diego squad. I agree that he needs some help as he gets double-teamed a lot, but don't sell guy short.
Pun intended. :)
Atwater His Ass
03-02-2008, 11:27 AM
You live or die with your drafted talent. Again, we've spent 3 draft choices on DE over the past 2 seasons.
I'm not sure what games you were watching, but the vast majority of our defense sturggles was our DT's getting manhandled and unable to keep blockers off our LBs. And when they were able to do that, DJ was about the only LB that could make a tackle. No, DE is not the problem. I can tell by your mob type dislike of Engleberger you don't fully realize what he brings to the team. I don't see anyone saying he should be starting and he won't be this year. Know why? Because we have younger talent now to replace him. Ekuban is also a quality NFL DE. We have a nice group at DE and it's time to see what they can do while focusing our limted resources elsewhere.
I also like the bangwagon jumping on Dumervile because of his size. He doesn't get manhandled near as much as people like to project. Kaylore is 100% right.
orinjkrush
03-02-2008, 11:34 AM
we're too far south on I-25 to do a Uuuey and head back north to I-70.
kmonty
03-02-2008, 11:39 AM
It doesn't loook like he's really available anyways. Bill Parcells just said otherwise.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3273442
Popps
03-02-2008, 01:35 PM
Yeah like when he rolled two sacks against the Steelers and forced a fumble for a TD. And then there were his two sacks against that crappy Jags team. And then that sack against the horrid San Diego squad. I agree that he needs some help as he gets double-teamed a lot, but don't sell guy short.
Pun intended. :)
Fair enough. He's shown up against decent teams. I was talking more about our BIG games. (Indy, etc.)
I love the kid, I'm just not going to say he's an answer at DE. He's a great weapon and we should use him accordingly.
Broncos_OTM
03-02-2008, 03:10 PM
sign sopoaga pass on taylor!!
epicSocialism4tw
03-03-2008, 09:59 AM
Dumerville - Nice situational player who struggles against the run and can be handled easily by the better tackles.
Crowder - An absolute unknown who showed almost nothing in the way of flashes last year.
Moss - A potential bright spot but coming off of a bad injury, is undersized and has less than a season under his belt.
Engleberger - Are you ****ing serious?
Ekuban - Was a B- player before he tore up his Achilles. Now a year older and attempting to come back from an injury that has helped end the career of several older players.
Yea, that's a stellar group, there. Who needs a perennial Pro Bowl player coming off of 24.5 sacks in two seasons when you have a sure-fire group of studs like we have, huh?
No.
I want to cut Engleberer... regardless of any other move we make.
As for Taylor, I'd like to pay him accordingly.
See, quality players get paid well. You may notice that the only two guys we have worth a **** on our defense also happen to have contracts that reflect those skills. We're not starting a piggy-bank, here. We're attempting to field a talented football team. Bargain-bin shopping on the D-line has killed us for a decade. (That and flat-out refusing to draft any first day players until last year.)
He's 33. Strahan is 36 and was absolutely crucial in the Giants SB season.
Don't compare Apples to Oranges by bringing up an injured schmuck like Simeon Rice, either.
We need help at BOTH. If you don't think so, you're simply not watching closely enough.
But, you'll get your wish. We don't take the positions seriously, as a rule... so we'll likely pass on the impact players available and opt for the crap-can band of cast-offs and scrubs we usually bring in.
More of the same, eh? LOL
It's getting to be pretty silly around here. Our defense is built like a Ford Pinto. Defective engineering has left it exposed and ready to explode on impact.
We have another generation of two-year fans who have never been through this before.
Here's a primer for those who have missed out on the past 10 years: we field a competitive team who will be let down again and again by its defensive line...then the fans will complain about the quarterback or the runningback.