View Full Version : Jenkins Possibly heading to Jets.
rugbythug
02-28-2008, 11:53 PM
Panthers close to trading Jenkins to Jets; FB Hoover re-signs
Nearly a year after starting the process, the Carolina Panthers are about to unload disgruntled defensive tackle Kris Jenkins. The Panthers and New York Jets have been in heavy trade discussions about the three-time Pro Bowler and a deal could be completed Friday, according to multiple sources. The Panthers tried to trade Jenkins before last year's draft but pulled back when they couldn't get a first-round pick in return.
It's likely they'll willl settle for less (probably a third-round choice) this time to get rid of Jenkins, who, in July, said he didn't like living in Charlotte. He also didn't endear himself to the coaching staff by skipping last year's voluntary workouts to spend time with family in the Washington, D.C. area.
Jenkins may not be returning to the Panthers, but the team came to terms with fullback Brad Hoover on a three-year deal. Agent Tim Irwin declined to give financial details. Hoover, 31, has spent the past eight seasons with the Panthers after earning a spot on the roster as an undrafted rookie out of Western Carolina. Hoover played in all 16 games last season and started 12, used mostly as a blocker.
The Jets are looking for a bigger defensive tackle to man the middle and it became clear after last season that Dewayne Robertson wasn't who the team wanted in that role. Jenkins, 28, is listed at 6-4 and 335 pounds, but his weight became an issue after he missed much of the 2004 and 2005 seasons with knee and shoulder injuries. He admitted to getting close to 400 pounds while he was sitting out but got his weight under control and played well enough to make the Pro Bowl after the 2006 season. The Panthers are scheduled to pay Jenkins a $1 million roster bonus next week.
-- Pat Yasinskas, ESPN.com and The Associated Press
Dedhed
02-29-2008, 05:56 AM
There are rumors that the Jets are after Jenkins or Shaun Rogers, and it will be a good thing for the Broncos when they finalize a deal for either of them. It will mean that they are definitely going to cut ties with Dwayne Robertson, who I think should be the prime focus of the Broncos off-season work.
Robertson will be expensive, but he is as safe a bet as you'll ever find in a high priced DT on the FA market. High motor and high character are not adjectives often used to describe these guys. Robertson is highly talented and would give the Broncos DL a much needed boost.
The Broncos could give up picks in a trade for Robertson, but with the Jets landing Jenkins or Rogers it will almost assure that Robertson will be released and become an unrestricted FA. If he hits the open market the price for his services will be high, but the Broncos should bring him in and offer him a contract that forces him to sign.
There are rumors that the Jets are after Jenkins or Shaun Rogers, and it will be a good thing for the Broncos when they finalize a deal for either of them. It will mean that they are definitely going to cut ties with Dwayne Robertson, who I think should be the prime focus of the Broncos off-season work.
Robertson will be expensive, but he is as safe a bet as you'll ever find in a high priced DT on the FA market. High motor and high character are not adjectives often used to describe these guys. Robertson is highly talented and would give the Broncos DL a much needed boost.
The Broncos could give up picks in a trade for Robertson, but with the Jets landing Jenkins or Rogers it will almost assure that Robertson will be released and become an unrestricted FA. If he hits the open market the price for his services will be high, but the Broncos should bring him in and offer him a contract that forces him to sign.
If Robertson gets cut he'll get less guaranteed money total than the $11M he's already on the books for this year. He'll cost less if he's cut. The only thing that really makes trading for him worthwhile is keeping other teams from getting at him.
That One Guy
02-29-2008, 07:53 AM
Apparently folks are reporting the price for Jenkins turned out to be a 3rd and a 5th and he moved fast. I think that means the other guys move for less.
Broncoman13
02-29-2008, 07:59 AM
If Robertson gets cut he'll get less guaranteed money total than the $11M he's already on the books for this year. He'll cost less if he's cut. The only thing that really makes trading for him worthwhile is keeping other teams from getting at him.
Tommy Kelly got $50m. Kris Jenkins, Marcus Stroud, Shaun Rogers, Dwayne Robertson, Corey Williams... They're looking at Star CB money IMO.
Ratboy
02-29-2008, 08:20 AM
and we're sitting on our hands, If we don't land a DT, we better trade up and grab Dorsey.
Traveler
02-29-2008, 09:16 AM
and we're sitting on our hands, If we don't land a DT, we better trade up and grab Dorsey.
Maybe Bowlen saw all these trade stories with Denver possibly being linked and reminded Shanahan about building throught the draft.;)
vancejohnson82
02-29-2008, 09:35 AM
you know what we should draft?
a smaller, quick defensive end!!
that will solve it
RunSilentRunDeep
02-29-2008, 09:42 AM
If Robertson gets cut he'll get less guaranteed money total than the $11M he's already on the books for this year. He'll cost less if he's cut. The only thing that really makes trading for him worthwhile is keeping other teams from getting at him.
What league are you following? Tommy Kelly just $18M guaranteed. Robertson is going to get a lot more than $11M if he becomes a FA.
Atlas
02-29-2008, 09:47 AM
and we're sitting on our hands, If we don't land a DT, we better trade up and grab Dorsey.
Trade down twice to bottom of the first round get another 2nd and two 3rds and then draft DT Okam.
rugbythug
02-29-2008, 10:12 AM
What league are you following? Tommy Kelly just $18M guaranteed. Robertson is going to get a lot more than $11M if he becomes a FA.
He got 18 mill on a 7 year deal. Not as good as 11million a year.
Killericon
02-29-2008, 10:40 AM
Trade down twice to bottom of the first round get another 2nd and two 3rds and then draft DT Okam.
There isn't anyone looking to trade up to #12 this year.
Popcorn Sutton
02-29-2008, 10:44 AM
There isn't anyone looking to trade up to #12 this year.
I would agree with that. There may be takers but not for 3 draft picks.
SoCalBronco
02-29-2008, 10:46 AM
Apparently folks are reporting the price for Jenkins turned out to be a 3rd and a 5th and he moved fast. .
For that price, I'm glad we didn't pursue him.
Gcver2ver3
02-29-2008, 10:47 AM
It's official...FoxSports is reporting...
Jenkins to Jets... for 3rd round pick and a 5th round pick...
http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/Alex_Marvez/2008/02/29/Panthers_trade_Jenkins_to_Jets
Killericon
02-29-2008, 10:48 AM
DeWayne Robertson, here we come!
BroncoBuff
02-29-2008, 10:49 AM
It's official...FoxSports is reporting...
Jenkins to Jets... for 3rd round pick and a 5th round pick...
That's correct ... a 3rd and 5th.
And yes, your username rocks. A little.
Gcver2ver3
02-29-2008, 10:49 AM
That's correct .... and yes, your username rocks. A little.
thanks...perhaps i embellished a little...i'll take what i can get...8')
RunSilentRunDeep
02-29-2008, 10:57 AM
He got 18 mill on a 7 year deal. Not as good as 11million a year.
You're totally missing the point. If Robertson is a FA, the team that signs him will be making a payment to him this year in excess of $11M. Ignore how it's spread out over the cap.
Atlas
02-29-2008, 11:04 AM
If Robertson gets cut he'll get less guaranteed money total than the $11M he's already on the books for this year. He'll cost less if he's cut. The only thing that really makes trading for him worthwhile is keeping other teams from getting at him.
It doesn't really matter whatever team he goes to his contract will be redone.
Atlas
02-29-2008, 11:06 AM
There isn't anyone looking to trade up to #12 this year.
There is always someone. Denver might have to sacrifice a little but the DTs they need will be there at the end of the 1st round.
fontaine
02-29-2008, 11:08 AM
You're totally missing the point. If Robertson is a FA, the team that signs him will be making a payment to him this year in excess of $11M. Ignore how it's spread out over the cap.
I'd rather overpay a bit on Robertson than give up a first day pick and have to redo his contract anyway.
eddie mac
02-29-2008, 11:11 AM
Robertson is on the books for $9.8m in cash this year which is the 2008 cap hit that would transfer with him. Any team that trades for him does not take on the proration of signing bonus which has him over $11m at present with the Jets.
I think the point is mute anyway cos Shanahan will not dish out for a top DT this offseason.
fontaine
02-29-2008, 11:19 AM
Robertson is on the books for $9.8m in cash this year which is the 2008 cap hit that would transfer with him. Any team that trades for him does not take on the proration of signing bonus which has him over $11m at present with the Jets.
I think the point is mute anyway cos Shanahan will not dish out for a top DT this offseason.
Why do you say that? If Robertson is cut which he will be if he can't be traded by the Jets then I think Shanahan will make a run at him.
eddie mac
02-29-2008, 11:43 AM
Why do you say that? If Robertson is cut which he will be if he can't be traded by the Jets then I think Shanahan will make a run at him.
Hope you're right but I wont hold my breath. We're more likely to add a couple of average players this offseason than any decent-good ones.
The Raiders and Tommy Kelly just set the market price and I dont think Bowlen will advocate any deals like that this season.
Merlin
02-29-2008, 11:47 AM
The Raiders and Tommy Kelly just set the market price and I dont think Bowlen will advocate any deals like that this season.
The Faiders and Kelly set NOTHING! This is a business and most GMs are not the idiot that the walking dead is. That is why the contract is being looked at with such disdain by other teams in the league.
Rohirrim
02-29-2008, 11:58 AM
I'm guessing if the Jets get Jenkins the price tag on Robertson goes down, given that they're not going to move Shaun Ellis to OLB. So, they probably try to move Robertson before they get Jenkins or do a simultaneous deal of some kind. This really might mean that Robertson comes to Denver, eh? Given that I just picked Sedrick Ellis for the Jets in the mock, this will screw up my whole board. :oyvey:
Requiem
02-29-2008, 12:03 PM
Jets got Jenkins for a 3 and a 5.
Beantown Bronco
02-29-2008, 12:30 PM
There isn't anyone looking to trade up to #12 this year.
And there wasn't anyone looking to trade up to #11 in 2006.....until Cutler fell.
Hoosier Bronco
02-29-2008, 02:37 PM
Hope this allows Robertson to go to Denver.....
rugbythug
02-29-2008, 03:16 PM
Jets signed NT Sione Pouha to an undisclosed contract extension.
Pouha, a third-round pick out of Utah in 2005, got his career back on track by recording 40 tackles last season. He's a smaller nose at 6'3/307, but will be able to give new starter Kris Jenkins a breather off the bench.