Foxworth headed out ?

[oubronco]

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_8393500

looks like somethings about to happen

[PRBronco]

Awwww maaaan now I have to click on the link....and then wait...I'm tired already.

[Gcver2ver3]

i so hope we don't get hosed.....

[oubronco]

Foxworth headed out?
<!--subtitle--><!--byline-->By Bill Williamson
The Denver Post (bwilliamson@denverpost.com?subject=The Denver Post: Foxworth headed out?)
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The Broncos may be close to trading cornerback Domonique Foxworth to the Detroit Lions, according to a source close to the negotiations. Trade talks heated up this morning. Trades can be agreed upon, but not made official until 10 p.m. tonight, when the free agent signing period starts.
It's not yet clear what Denver would get in return, although the Broncos have shown interest in Lions' defensive tackle Shaun Rogers.
Another possibility is a three-way trade with the Jets and the Lions that would involve Jets' defensive tackle Dewayne Robertson coming to Denver and Rogers going to the Jets. The Lions also are interested in linebacker Jonathan Vilma, so he could be a part of a bigger deal. The Broncos still are trying to trade receiver Javon Walker, and Dallas and Tampa Bay are among teams that have expressed interest.


there fixed it for you

[24champ]

Called it several months ago, Foxworth is NOT wearing a Bronco uni come next year. He wants to be a #2 Corner, Broncos are already heavily invested in two corners so that leaves Foxy the odd man out.

I still don't know how the 3 way trade will work out. Should be interesting...

[montrose]

I like Paymah better but would love to keep both. With that, if Foxy's traded, I'd thank him for everything he gave to the team over the past few years - including his work in the community. The Darrent Williams center will be a tremendous tribute to D-Will that may not have existed without Foxy's hard work.

Depending on what is received in return, another very good value pick by the Broncos. A CB who occasionally starts, plays in the nickel, fills in at safety and plays on special teams for three seasons and is then traded as a RFA to bring back value that will continue on for X amount of seasons - not bad for a 3rd rounder. Well done Teddy and Mike.

[Orange_Beard]

I like this guy. I believe he is the kind of "Class" guy this team needs.

However, you got to give something up to get something. Sorry to see him go, but if it makes the team better....SEEYA

[oubronco]

i'm really interested to see what's in return

[Punisher]

Damn Foxy is going I'm gonna miss him :(

[montrose]

If it's for a pick - I will be a very happy person.

[HEAV]

Well he is restricted and would cost a 3rd rounder to sign. So I guess trading his rights would work.

I just hate trading youth. Champ and Bly, while damn good, are getting older.

But Foxy can be annoying with that blog of his...oy vey!

Just have to wait and see what this deal turns out to be.

Foxy and a draft choice for Roger?

[montrose]

Where's Adam Schefter when you need him?

[oubronco]

Well he is restricted and would cost a 3rd rounder to sign. So I guess trading his rights would work.

I just hate trading youth. Champ and Bly, while damn good, are getting older.

But Foxy can be annoying with that blog of his...oy vey!

Just have to wait and see what this deal turns out to be.

Foxy and a draft choice for Roger?

straight up but NO draft pick

[Smiling Assassin27]

foxy is just a guy. he's a marginal safety and a slightly better than marginal #3 CB. for rogers, i'd pull the trigger immediately.

[crush17]

I just hate trading youth. Champ and Bly, while damn good, are getting older.




What do you think getting a draft pick for him would bring?
I think that's what you'd call youth, right?

[Cosmo]

I'm going to call this right now guys.

Detriot gets Foxworth & Vilma
Jets get Rogers & a 2nd
We get Robertson

[oubronco]

I'm going to call this right now guys.

Detriot gets Foxworth & Vilma
Jets get Rogers & a 2nd
We get Robertson

and what do we give up

[Beantown Bronco]

I'm going to call this right now guys.

Detriot gets Foxworth & Vilma
Jets get Rogers & a 2nd
We get Robertson

Way to go out on a limb.....considering this is precisely the scenario that has started about 6 threads. :)

[bowtown]

Would anybody be willing to do this:

We send Foxy and 2nd Rounder to Det
We get Robertson

Detroit sends Rogers to NYJ
They Receive Foxy and a 2nd

Jets send Robertson to Den
They Recieve Rodgers

Denver switches places with the Jets in the first round #12-#6 (equivalent of a low 2nd).

The only people possibly getting screwed here would be the Jets, but really they are only sending the equivalent of Robertson and low second for Rodgers.

[Punisher]

Would anybody be willing to do this:

We send Foxy and 2nd Rounder to Det
We get Robertson

Detroit sends Rogers to NYJ
They Receive Foxy and a 2nd

Jets send Robertson to Den
They Recieve Rodgers

Denver switches places with the Jets in the first round #12-#6 (equivalent of a low 2nd).

The only people possibly getting screwed here would be the Jets, but really they are only sending the equivalent of Robertson and low second for Rodgers.

I like the last one..Us Getting the 6 pick

[HEAV]

What do you think getting a draft pick for him would bring?
I think that's what you'd call youth, right?

Sorry I should have said experienced youth (in the Broncos system). Also the trade compensation has not been determined yet. So it remains to be seen.

[eddie mac]

I'm going to call this right now guys.

Detriot gets Foxworth & Vilma
Jets get Rogers & a 2nd
We get Robertson

We will not give up the 42nd pick in this draft and a potential 3rd/4th rounder for a guy's who's basically been a bust since he came into the league despite the system he's played in. Let's not also forget the fact he's due $9.8m in cold hard cash this season.

[Orange_Beard]

We will not give up the 42nd pick in this draft and a potential 3rd/4th rounder for a guy's who's basically been a bust since he came into the league despite the system he's played in. Let's not also forget the fact he's due $9.8m in cold hard cash this season.

I agree. A trade like this would be "Skinish"

[eddie mac]

Jets give up Robertson, Vilma, 4th rounder

Lions give up R Williams, Rogers

Broncos give up 2nd rounder, Foxworth, Walker

Lions get Vilma, Foxworth and 4th

Jets get Rogers, Walker and 2nd

Broncos get Williams and Robertson

Now there's a trade.

[rovolution]

Called it several months ago, Foxworth is NOT wearing a Bronco uni come next year. He wants to be a #2 Corner, Broncos are already heavily invested in two corners so that leaves Foxy the odd man out.

I still don't know how the 3 way trade will work out. Should be interesting...

i knew it way back when they signed Bly to a 5 year extension.

It was only a matter of time Foxy was going to be gone.

Good to see the FO possibly get something for him

[Gcver2ver3]

Jets give up Robertson, Vilma, 4th rounder

Lions give up R Williams, Rogers

Broncos give up 2nd rounder, Foxworth, Walker

Lions get Vilma, Foxworth and 4th

Jets get Rogers, Walker and 2nd

Broncos get Williams and Robertson

Now there's a trade.

oh how i wish shanny had the skills to pull something like this off...

[no-pseudo-fan]

I'm going to call this right now guys.

Detriot gets Foxworth & Vilma
Jets get Rogers & a 2nd
We get Robertson

So you think they are going to stick it in us?

that is what that is. If we give a 2nd along with Foxy we just took it in the @$$. Foxy and a 4th or 5th would be fine

[Crushaholic]

I can't wait for him to be gone so people around here would quit calling him "Foxy"...:spit:

[SonOfLe-loLang]

Jets give up Robertson, Vilma, 4th rounder

Lions give up R Williams, Rogers

Broncos give up 2nd rounder, Foxworth, Walker

Lions get Vilma, Foxworth and 4th

Jets get Rogers, Walker and 2nd

Broncos get Williams and Robertson

Now there's a trade.



So youre basically saying Detroit should trade 2 pro bowl caliber players for a linebacker with a bum knee, a 3rd corner, and a 4th round pick...hmmmm

[bowtown]

oh how i wish shanny had the skills to pull something like this off...

A trade like this not happening has nothing to do with Shanahan's "skills." It has to do with us not living in make believe land.

[eddie mac]

So youre basically saying Detroit should trade 2 pro bowl caliber players for a linebacker with a bum knee, a 3rd corner, and a 4th round pick...hmmmm

Rogers and pro-bowl in the same sentence just doesn't fit for me.

[bpc]

Foxy can blame his overly fat lips for getting traded. The guy uses every conversation in the media to mock the coaching staff about his status, or anybody's status with the team after guys like Pryce and Wilson got cut over the previous two seasons.

He's whiny and he's really not a great corner or safety. If we can pull something good for him, lets do it. He won't play over Bly or Champ.

I called the trade yesterday...

Jets give up Robertson, Coles, Vilma
Detroit gives up Rogers
Broncos give up 2nd rounder and Foxworth

Jets get Rogers and 2nd rounder
Lions gets Vilma and Foxworth
Broncos get Robertson and Lavereus

Boom, there you go. We solve the issue of Walker not being here with a true deep threat/team guy and plug an issue at DT at least giving us capable starters.

[Kaylore]

Coles too? Hmmm. I'd have to think about that. I really, really don't like giving up a second in such a great depth draft - especially when our second is so high! I'd still be pissed but not as bad as if it was just Robertson. Maybe we'll get a pick back like we swap seconds or something. I hope so.

[SonOfLe-loLang]

Coles too? Hmmm. I'd have to think about that. I really, really don't like giving up a second in such a great depth draft - especially when our second is so high! I'd still be pissed but not as bad as if it was just Robertson. Maybe we'll get a pick back like we swap seconds or something. I hope so.

I dont get why you'd be pissed for giving a 2nd for robertson. He's a proven commodity at a young age (only 26). We have enough young d-lineman (4!), lets get some proven talent for our greatest position of need. As someone in another thread brought up, the broncos can trade down in the draft to accumulate picks...its the NFL draft, not the NBA, good players can be found everywhere and, especially in this draft, the difference between 12-25 probablyi snt that great.

[clint7]

I called the trade yesterday...

Jets give up Robertson, Coles, Vilma
Detroit gives up Rogers
Broncos give up 2nd rounder and Foxworth

Jets get Rogers and 2nd rounder
Lions gets Vilma and Foxworth
Broncos get Robertson and Lavereus

Boom, there you go. We solve the issue of Walker not being here with a true deep threat/team guy and plug an issue at DT at least giving us capable starters.

I could certainly live with that!

[BroncoBuff]

I'll be honest ... I like Dre Bly, but signing him to that cap-buster deal was a bad move imo. Karl Paymah has become an excellent cover corner (though his ball skills are poor), and Foxworth is an above-average nickel CB.

We might've been better off keeping these two and skipping Dre Bly altogether ... we couldda used that money for a FA LT or DT.

[Dendave]

How many threads do we need on this?

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=66444

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=66447

:hitself:

[bowtown]

Boom, there you go. We solve the issue of Walker not being here with a true deep threat/team guy and plug an issue at DT at least giving us capable starters.

Not sure I'd refer to Coles as a "true deep threat," especially at his age. He would make a nice #2 for a couple of years though.

[Kaylore]

I'll be honest ... I like Dre Bly, but signing him to that cap-buster deal was a bad move imo. Karl Paymah has become an excellent cover corner (though his ball skills are poor), and Foxworth is an above-average nickel CB.

We might've been better off keeping these two and skipping Dre Bly altogether ... we couldda used that money for a FA LT or DT.

I'll file this away in "things we have no control over now" section behind "not drafting Ed Reed". :)

[lex]

So youre basically saying Detroit should trade 2 pro bowl caliber players for a linebacker with a bum knee, a 3rd corner, and a 4th round pick...hmmmm

Actually, yes. Detroits getting rid of him because they no longer want him around.

[PRBronco]

I'll be honest ... I like Dre Bly, but signing him to that cap-buster deal was a bad move imo. Karl Paymah has become an excellent cover corner (though his ball skills are poor), and Foxworth is an above-average nickel CB.

We might've been better off keeping these two and skipping Dre Bly altogether ... we couldda used that money for a FA LT or DT.

Are there any left?? :S

[RunSilentRunDeep]

Lions get Vilma, Gold, Foxworth

Jets get Broncos 2nd, Lions 4th (and a whole lot of cap room)

Broncos get Robertson AND Rogers

How's that for some BS!

[Inkana7]

I'll file this away in "things we have no control over now" section behind "not drafting Ed Reed". :)

But Ed Reeeeeeeddddd!!!!!

[yerner]

Yeah, I don't know how much Coles has left. He's beat to hell.

[Cosmo]

I dont think we're the ones giving up the 2nd rounder guys. If we do I think there is more than just Robertson involved in the trade. Foxworth is worth a 3rd rounder alone, Robertson is probably the same because of his salary coming with him. Vilma is involved somehow, if we are giving up a 2nd, It possibly would mean Vilma is coming along with Roberson or Coles, I doubt Williams though, but anything is possible, we've raped people worse.

[HEAV]

By JOSINA ANDERSON, FOX 31


DENVER - The agents for Broncos safety Domonique Foxworth, safety Hamza Abdullah, and cornerback Karl Paymah have all confirmed that the organization has offered each of their clients original draft round tenders.


But first let’s get to the talks on restricted free agent Foxworth possibly being traded now to the Lions.

I had two conversations today with Foxworth’s agent, Brian Mackler. The latter conversation concerned his client’s possible defection from Denver.

“Right now I’d say it’s about 50/50 chance,” said Mackler.

Mackler then refrained from further comment on the record concerning that subject.

I then called a Broncos player, who just recently spoke to Foxworth. The player wanted to remain anonymous however he told me that, “right now he [Foxworth] doesn’t know what the heck is going on, and doesn’t want to answer his phone until he has more information.”

Gotcha.

Earlier this morning, Mackler provided an update on the Broncos initial offer for his client. Mackler confirmed the Broncos did offer Foxworth a one-year original draft round tender.

“That is accurate. We will see what happens, but this is how the system works,“ said Mackler.

Foxworth was drafted in 2005, in the 3rd round with the 97th overall pick.

I also was able to reach Cliff Laboy this morning. Laboy represents Broncos safety Hamza Abdullah. Laboy also confirmed this morning that the Broncos have offered an original draft round, one-year tender to his client as well. Abdullah was originally signed by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as a 7th round draft pick in 2005.

Clearly the higher the pick (by round), the easier it is for another team to acquire Abdullah. I have to say for all the optimism expressed around bringing Abdullah back, the 7th round tender is a bit surprising-especially when you consider the Broncos engaged into talks with Abdullah’s rep early this off-season. Here is what Laboy had to say.

“The reality is that is what Denver is offering. We are going to have to live with it. Like I said we fully expect the interest level for Hamza to still be high considering the compensation [7th round draft pick] a team would have to pay to get a quality starter in the NFL and a youngster like he is. We will deal with it when it comes. We will see what happens.

Laboy emphasized to me thereafter that just because his client was tendered (especially at that level) doesn’t mean that talks are over with the Boncos. He emphasized that the market is hot for Abdullah’s position right now. With that being said though, Laboy did make mention of the fact that the Broncos have the right to match another club offer.

I also feel it’s important that I mention that Laboy said that Abdullah personally has his mind on staying in Denver, and that it’s never been about the money with him. Laboy said Abdullah is not stressing about having to move right now.

Last but not least I spoke with Karl Paymah and his agent this morning as well.

Paymah’s agent, Michael Hoffman, also confirmed the original draft round tendering of his client. The Broncos drafted Paymah in the 3rd round as the 76th overall pick in 2005.

“It’s what we expected, and we will go into restricted free agency. We will explore every opportunity that is available, “said Hoffman.

When I asked Hoffman if his client was more interested in staying or in leaving Denver, Hoffman said, “Karl is extremely focused on having the best year possible. He’s not really focused on the contact end of it. Rather he’s focused on proving himself more on the field. He wants to spend more of the off year getting to that elite level.”

At that exact moment my phone clicked, and it was Paymah on the other line.

I have to say that whenever I talk to Paymah he never sounds as caught up in free agency talks as others may understandably be.

“I’m good, I just got one more year to get better. Getting better every year is what it’s about,” said Paymah from his cell phone while in Los Angeles.

Stay tuned.

http://www.myfoxcolorado.com/myfox/pages/Sports/Detail?contentId=5904304&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=6.1.1

[Requiem]

What a ****ed up world. :) ****ing Foxy not knowing wassup.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Someone is going to be awfully disappointed. Foxworth is not a starter.

[Requiem]

Someone is going to be awfully disappointed. Foxworth is not a starter.

Mmm, gimme da picks for him. Mmmmm, you like da jelly donut fatty? :)

[RunSilentRunDeep]

By JOSINA ANDERSON, FOX 31


DENVER - The agents for Broncos safety Domonique Foxworth, safety Hamza Abdullah, and cornerback Karl Paymah have all confirmed that the organization has offered each of their clients original draft round tenders.


But first let’s get to the talks on restricted free agent Foxworth possibly being traded now to the Lions.

I had two conversations today with Foxworth’s agent, Brian Mackler. The latter conversation concerned his client’s possible defection from Denver.

“Right now I’d say it’s about 50/50 chance,” said Mackler.

Mackler then refrained from further comment on the record concerning that subject.

I then called a Broncos player, who just recently spoke to Foxworth. The player wanted to remain anonymous however he told me that, “right now he [Foxworth] doesn’t know what the heck is going on, and doesn’t want to answer his phone until he has more information.”

Gotcha.

Earlier this morning, Mackler provided an update on the Broncos initial offer for his client. Mackler confirmed the Broncos did offer Foxworth a one-year original draft round tender.

“That is accurate. We will see what happens, but this is how the system works,“ said Mackler.

Foxworth was drafted in 2005, in the 3rd round with the 97th overall pick.

I also was able to reach Cliff Laboy this morning. Laboy represents Broncos safety Hamza Abdullah. Laboy also confirmed this morning that the Broncos have offered an original draft round, one-year tender to his client as well. Abdullah was originally signed by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as a 7th round draft pick in 2005.

Clearly the higher the pick (by round), the easier it is for another team to acquire Abdullah. I have to say for all the optimism expressed around bringing Abdullah back, the 7th round tender is a bit surprising-especially when you consider the Broncos engaged into talks with Abdullah’s rep early this off-season. Here is what Laboy had to say.

“The reality is that is what Denver is offering. We are going to have to live with it. Like I said we fully expect the interest level for Hamza to still be high considering the compensation [7th round draft pick] a team would have to pay to get a quality starter in the NFL and a youngster like he is. We will deal with it when it comes. We will see what happens.

Laboy emphasized to me thereafter that just because his client was tendered (especially at that level) doesn’t mean that talks are over with the Boncos. He emphasized that the market is hot for Abdullah’s position right now. With that being said though, Laboy did make mention of the fact that the Broncos have the right to match another club offer.

I also feel it’s important that I mention that Laboy said that Abdullah personally has his mind on staying in Denver, and that it’s never been about the money with him. Laboy said Abdullah is not stressing about having to move right now.

Last but not least I spoke with Karl Paymah and his agent this morning as well.

Paymah’s agent, Michael Hoffman, also confirmed the original draft round tendering of his client. The Broncos drafted Paymah in the 3rd round as the 76th overall pick in 2005.

“It’s what we expected, and we will go into restricted free agency. We will explore every opportunity that is available, “said Hoffman.

When I asked Hoffman if his client was more interested in staying or in leaving Denver, Hoffman said, “Karl is extremely focused on having the best year possible. He’s not really focused on the contact end of it. Rather he’s focused on proving himself more on the field. He wants to spend more of the off year getting to that elite level.”

At that exact moment my phone clicked, and it was Paymah on the other line.

I have to say that whenever I talk to Paymah he never sounds as caught up in free agency talks as others may understandably be.

“I’m good, I just got one more year to get better. Getting better every year is what it’s about,” said Paymah from his cell phone while in Los Angeles.

Stay tuned.

http://www.myfoxcolorado.com/myfox/pages/Sports/Detail?contentId=5904304&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=6.1.1

Thanks Josina for shedding zero light on the situation! Great reporting!

[Hotrod]

Someone is going to be awfully disappointed. Foxworth is not a starter.

He would be in KC

[Hotrod]

Thanks Josina for shedding zero light on the situation! Great reporting!

My thoughts exactly.

[montrose]

My thoughts exactly.

She's actually the best NFL insider in the area since Adam left.

[chaz]

A trade like this not happening has nothing to do with Shanahan's "skills." It has to do with us not living in make believe land.

:spit:

[ward63]

Jets give up Robertson, Vilma, 4th rounder

Lions give up R Williams, Rogers

Broncos give up 2nd rounder, Foxworth, Walker

Lions get Vilma, Foxworth and 4th

Jets get Rogers, Walker and 2nd

Broncos get Williams and Robertson

Now there's a trade.

If we could get roy williams, i would love it!!!

[montrose]

Here's an update from Burger Bill:

Foxworth bracing for trade
By Bill Williamson
The Denver Post
Article Last Updated: 02/28/2008 05:36:46 PM MST

Broncos defensive back Domonique Foxworth said he has been told not to worry about being part of a trade to Detroit tonight, but Foxworth still is bracing himself for a move.

"I've heard all the talk," he said. "I don't know what to believe. It's kind of strange that my name is popping up in talks and they aren't true. The Broncos have been good to me and whatever happens, happens. It would be kind of sad to go, but I'm prepared for everything."

A proposed deal could send Foxworth to Detroit. It's not yet clear what Denver would get in return, although the Broncos have shown interest in Lions' defensive tackle Shaun Rogers.

Another possibility is a three-way trade with the Jets and the Lions that would involve Jets' defensive tackle Dewayne Robertson coming to Denver and Rogers going to the Jets. The Broncos likely would need to redo Robertson's contract and no talks have commenced.

The Lions also are interested in linebacker Jonathan Vilma, so he could be a part of a bigger deal.

The trading period starts at 10 p.m. tonight. Denver has given Foxworth a third-round tender as a restricted free agent and he were to get a deal that Denver doesn't match in free agency, the Broncos would get a third-round pick for him.

The Broncos still are trying to trade receiver Javon Walker, and Dallas and Tampa Bay are among teams that have expressed interest.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_8393500

[want2bAbronco2]

I hope we dont trade Fox or Paymah. I hope we resign both. Both are good 3rd CBs and Pay can cover TEs. How come everyone forgot that 4 yrs ago we needed CBs, and now we are ready to trade a good one.

[Atlas]

I hope we dont trade Fox or Paymah. I hope we resign both. Both are good 3rd CBs and Pay can cover TEs. How come everyone forgot that 4 yrs ago we needed CBs, and now we are ready to trade a good one.

Well, if you inprove your pass rush you won't have to rely on your CBs so much.

[want2bAbronco2]

Well, if you inprove your pass rush you won't have to rely on your CBs so much.

Of course, but you still have to have CBs...we have bailey, bly, fox, and pay.....if we trade fox then we just create another hole, and if baily or bly go down it would be even worse.

[want2bAbronco2]

Well, if you inprove your pass rush you won't have to rely on your CBs so much.

Of course, but you still have to have CBs...we have bailey, bly, fox, and pay.....if we trade fox then we just create another hole, and if baily or bly go down it would be even worse.

Trade players you dont want/dont want to be here anymore. Not players that can help the team and want to be here.

[bowtown]

Of course, but you still have to have CBs...we have bailey, bly, fox, and pay.....if we trade fox then we just create another hole, and if baily or bly go down it would be even worse.

Trade players you dont want/dont want to be here anymore. Not players that can help the team and want to be here.

How about a player that still has some value right now, instead of getting nothing in return next year when he hits fee agency, and goes to another team because he wants to start and get paid starter money?

[Popps]

Hate to see Foxworth go, but if it brings in Rogers, it's a no-brainer.

[TheReverend]

Hate to see Foxworth go, but if it brings in Rogers, it's a no-brainer.

Seriously, but can't we dump Paymah instead? The guy has one good game and becomes a nickle super hero on the Mane... meanwhile, Foxworth is playing whatever the hell the team needs at S and CB at a serviceable level.

[chaz]

Seriously, but can't we dump Paymah instead? The guy has one good game and becomes a nickle super hero on the Mane... meanwhile, Foxworth is playing whatever the hell the team needs at S and CB at a serviceable level.

Not to mention his intelligence, character, and community work. Shaun Rogers is the anti-foxworth.

[cutthemdown]

Someone is going to be awfully disappointed. Foxworth is not a starter.

I agree if we get a 3rd for him that would be robbery. If he is a part of a deal that brings a starting DT that is amazing to me. What has anyone seen foxworth do that makes them feel he is good. Even a the dumbest KC fan that ever lived get its it.

[That One Guy]

When you look behind you and basically Boob is the only person in your corner, you may be in the wrong corner.

Go look at guys like Jason David in NO last year in the season opener against Indy and tell me they wouldn't rather have an up and coming CB over what they had. Foxworth has value, the question is just how much?

[Cmac821]

I just want vilma!

[That One Guy]

I just want vilma!

A day late and a dollar short. He's one of the few already gone.

[Beantown Bronco]

Of course, but you still have to have CBs...we have bailey, bly, fox, and pay.....if we trade fox then we just create another hole, and if baily or bly go down it would be even worse.

Would you rather have a hole at the "dime CB" spot, or would you rather have a hole at two of your top three DT slots? Because THAT is precisely what the Broncos will be facing if they don't make a move for a starting DT.

[vancejohnson82]

Would you rather have a hole at the "dime CB" spot, or would you rather have a hole at two of your top three DT slots? Because THAT is precisely what the Broncos will be facing if they don't make a move for a starting DT.


If i could rep you twice for this I would

I have no idea why we would keep him around for 1 year as insurance to injury and keep the D-Line at status quo (aka: a four man entourage to the endzone)

[ward63]

I like Nique, but you can only cover WR's for so long. You NEED!!!! a DL to get pressure and help the DBs out. We need to let him go if it'll improve that DL, so guys like champ and dre can get back to get 8 picks a year.