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Dedhed
02-22-2008, 05:27 PM
Here's my stab at a pre-FA mock draft. Subject to change when we sign Corey Williams, although even signing Williams wouldn’t change much for me as far as our draft needs are concerned.

The value at #12 is going to be on the offensive side of the ball, which is not at all where our needs lay. I know it’s impossible and unrealistic to predict trades, but it’s more fun, and, lets face it, no mock draft has much reality in it.

Broncos give pick #12(1200 pts) to the 49ers in exchange for:
Pick #29(640 pts) and Pick #39 (510 pts)

The Broncos give 1200 pts and the 9ers give up 1150pts. We should get a 5th rounder from them as well, but if it pushes the deal through it will be worth it.

That gives the Broncos picks 29, 39, 42, 104, 115, 130, 140, and 202.
I still want a 3rd rounder, and we'll give up pick #115 and Javon Walker to the Tampa Bay Bucs for pick #83. That puts a 4th round value on Walker.

So going into the mock the Broncos will have the following picks:
1(29)
2(39)
2(42)
3(83)
4(104)
5(130)
5(140)
7(202)

And here are my selections:
#29-Dan Conner, LB, Penn State- I’ve battled with whether this pick should be used to bolster a defense that is desperate for talent, or be used to further an offense that already has the makings of being a very potent unit. Ultimately I went with Connor because I think that adding a true MLB will upgrade two positions with one selection. I also think that the best OT in the draft will be available in the 2nd round. Connor is the all-time leading tackler at the school that churns out tacklers like it’s their god-given right. Conner is the most versatile LB in this class by a long shot, and will play the mike position in Denver for the next 10 years. Adding a true MLB and allowing DJ Williams to move back to the weak side will upgrade the defense more than any other pick and make Denver’s LB corps better than it has been in years. Connors has the tenacity and the instincts that you want from your middle linebacker, and will quickly step into a leadership role on a defense that will be desperate for leaders once John Lynch retires. Connor is a football player first and foremost, and will add a little ferocity to a unit that has been too much about finesse for a number of years now.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LIB6PaLSG-U (http://youtube.com/watch?v=LIB6PaLSG-U)

#39-Brandon Albert, OT, Virginia- I’m not even considering that Albert will play a down of Guard at the next level, and I think he is perhaps the best tackle prospect available for Denver’s system. At 6’6” and 315 lbs, I think he has the tools and the ability to be a LT in the NFL from day one. He’s great in space where a left tackle needs to be comfortable, he has the ability and power to dominate the point of attack, and both the size and footwork to be great in pass protection. Albert would give the Broncos OL some much needed power in the short yardage game while also upgrading the level of pass protection on the all important blind side. Investing in a guy like Albert will pay off for years to come.
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d806b5815 (http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d806b5815)

#42-Red Bryant, DT, Texas A&M- A nose tackle type defensive tackle that will provide the perfect compliment to the more penetrating style of 2nd year DT Marcus Thomas. Bryant is a 'take on two and ‘stand them up' type of mauling defensive tackle who fills a big need for a Broncos team that hasn't had a player to fill that role since the turn of the century. Bryant anticipates the snap very well, and gets underneath his opposing OL on the majority of snaps. He has the ability to penetrate because of his anticipation, but excels in stuffing the run and keeping his 'backers free to run behind him. Bryant is 6’5” and 325 lbs of nasty demeanor, who has a low center of gravity and is very difficult to move backwards or even sideways. He also runs a sub 5.0 40 yard dash which gives him the ability to pursue better than most beefy guys in the middle, and could allow him to play on the edge during running downs. Adding Bryant would give the Broncos the beginnings of a solid young DT corps with Marcus Thomas. He’s got the type of versatility that you don’t often see from a trench man.


#83-Earl Bennett, WR, Vanderbilt- I would consider taking a safety here, but with the departure of Walker the Broncos are looking pretty thin at receiver yet again, and I'm not sure there's a starter in this year's safety class. Earl Bennett is the first receiver in SEC history to catch 75 passes in 3 consecutive seasons. He’s also the only SEC receiver to catch 75 passes or more in back to back seasons. Bennett isn’t the biggest, fastest, or flashiest receiver in this draft, but he has been as consistently productive as any WR coming out. He runs nice routes and has the knack for finding soft spots in zone schemes. He has tremendous hands and excels in catching the ball in traffic. More like a running back after he catches the ball, Bennett is similar to Arizona Cardinals receiver Anquan Boldin, but more polished as a route runner given that he played receiver in college. And need I mention he would have immediate rapport with QB Jay Cutler, having been Jay’s favorite target from the day he arrived at Vanderbilt.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pDRIjZlJsAA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2-2yd_EPqB8&feature=related

Broncoman13
02-22-2008, 08:34 PM
okay

Broncoman13
02-22-2008, 08:43 PM
Let me try...

1(29) OT Chris Williams
2(39) WR, Malcolm Kelly (since we trade Walker away and he'll drop a little)
2(42) S, DaJuan MorganWR
3(83) WR, DeSean Jackson (5'9 and closer to 150 than 200... he'll fall a lot!)
4(104) DT, Frank Okam
5(130) OLB, Ezra Butler
5(140) FB, Owen Schmitt
7(202) Punter, Mike Dragosavich

That One Guy
02-22-2008, 09:14 PM
It seems that while Albert would probably have the higher ceiling, Williams would be the safer LT pick. I think I'd prefer Kelly over Bennet but I'd prefer Bryant over Okam. So basically I'm split... all would be great options though.

I still think Schmitt is going to go fairly early, much earlier than a FB should because he's been getting so much publicity.

CBF1
02-22-2008, 10:14 PM
Let me try...

1(29) OT Chris Williams
2(39) WR, Malcolm Kelly (since we trade Walker away and he'll drop a little)
2(42) S, DaJuan MorganWR
3(83) WR, DeSean Jackson (5'9 and closer to 150 than 200... he'll fall a lot!)
4(104) DT, Frank Okam
5(130) OLB, Ezra Butler
5(140) FB, Owen Schmitt
7(202) Punter, Mike Dragosavich

Damn draft tease. I would give your left nut for this draft :giggle:

Broncoman13
02-22-2008, 10:40 PM
btw, Corey Williams was Franchised.

Dedhed
02-23-2008, 06:31 AM
Let me try...

1(29) OT Chris Williams
2(39) WR, Malcolm Kelly (since we trade Walker away and he'll drop a little)
2(42) S, DaJuan MorganWR
3(83) WR, DeSean Jackson (5'9 and closer to 150 than 200... he'll fall a lot!)
4(104) DT, Frank Okam
5(130) OLB, Ezra Butler
5(140) FB, Owen Schmitt
7(202) Punter, Mike Dragosavich
I like Chris Williams too, but I would kill someone if we took two WRs before we took a single DT. I like Butler, but he'll likely be gone in the 3rd and definitely gone in the 4th. Okam is lazy as all get out, and if he's the only DT we add in this draft, we haven't done much to improve the worst area of our football team. Desean Jackson is a playmaker, and will be gone way before the 83rd pick. Most of the reports I've seen have Kelly and Jackson as the #1 and #2 WR prospects, and getting them in the 2nd and 3rd round doesn't seem very plausible to me. Schmitt is a 4th round pick.
I don't think there's any value at S in this draft, and Morgan in the 2nd isn't a better prospect than Steve Cargile or Roderick Rogers and getting a DT there would be much better value for the Broncos.

SpringStein
02-23-2008, 08:25 AM
I don't think there's any value at S in this draft, and Morgan in the 2nd isn't a better prospect than Steve Cargile or Roderick Rogers and getting a DT there would be much better value for the Broncos.

Have you seen Morgan play? There's a reason that Mayock had him as his #1 S over Phillips. I'd be real happy to get him in the 2nd - although I'm guessing that isn't the direction the Broncos will go given their history.

27atwater
02-23-2008, 09:04 AM
Here is what I would like to see for Denver on draft day. Henry is restructured. JWalk is as good as gone. Shanny obviously is looking at WR via FA and I also think we can get a solid DT via trade/FA as well.

Forgive me if I don't have all the picks in the exact rounds as I have yet to find any sites which list the proper choices. So I'm going w/ 2 #4s, 2 #5s, NO #6 and a #7. Some of my mid round choices can be altered to fit whatever is correct...


Round 1-Dan Connor, OLB/MLB, Penn State
Connor's ability to play inside and out adds flexibility to the Denver LB corps. It also gives Shanny more time to decide what rto do with DJ. He is a sound tackler and a great field general. A blue collar player who will bring the lunch pail for the next 8-12 years...and leave the attitude at the door. Another option is Keith Rivers, OLB, USC.

Round 2-DaJuan Morgan, Safety, North Carolina State
Finally the Safety that I have been coveting. With Phillips' "value" at 12 apparently slipping, Morgan is a very solid option who is quickly climbing the draft charts. Comes from a very highly respected defense for the Wolfpack. Another option is Reggie Smith, DB, Oklahoma.

Round 4a-Dre Moore, DT, Maryland
Some will say this is too late for him to go, but he is a project and may last this long w/ the influx of junior talent in this draft. This kid is a horse w/ loads of potential. He's more of a run stuffer than a pass rusher, but isn't that what we need after 2007? Another option is Ahtyba Rubin, DT, Iowa State.

Round 4b-Barry Richardson, OT, Clemson
Here is the large, pile moving Tackle that many folks seem to want. At 6'7" 330, he is massive, but also has excellent footwork. May need a season or 2 to develop...but the same was said about Marcus McNeil. Another option is Kirk Barton, OT, Ohio State.

Round 5a-Ezra Butler, OLB, Nevada
Butler is the big, physical OLB that we have been needing but is also athletic enough for our style of play. Ian is gonzo and I've said for months this should be a 2 LB draft. Butler and Dan Connor along side DJ should be a formidable LB corps. Another option is J Leman, MLB, Illinois.

Round 5b-Darius Reynaud, WR, West Virginia
My sleeper of the whole draft. I loved watching this guy at WVU. Short, but tough. At 200lbs, he is a stocky sparkplug who produced great numbers considering the style of O he played in. Also a solid return option for us. Another option is Dexter Jackson, QB/WR, Appalachian State.

Round 7-Chris Brown, FB/TE, Tennessee
Your consumate team player. Brown can excel at either FB or TE and has done so at both vs SEC competition. Has great hands, which plays nicely with how Shanny likes to use his FBs on the goalline. Call me a homer, but if we draft this guy, nobody will be upset when it's all said and done.

SOOOO...this would give us 2 LBs, 1 DT, 1 OT, 1 Safety, 1 WR and a TE/FB. Assuming Shanny lands a DT and WR via FA, I'd say this addresses most of the team's areas of concern. I know Javon may still land us another 5th or 6th and we still have Foxxy to potentially deal, but I don't wanna just make stuff up to list all the guys I want.

Broncoman13
02-23-2008, 10:15 AM
I like Chris Williams too, but I would kill someone if we took two WRs before we took a single DT. I like Butler, but he'll likely be gone in the 3rd and definitely gone in the 4th. Okam is lazy as all get out, and if he's the only DT we add in this draft, we haven't done much to improve the worst area of our football team. Desean Jackson is a playmaker, and will be gone way before the 83rd pick. Most of the reports I've seen have Kelly and Jackson as the #1 and #2 WR prospects, and getting them in the 2nd and 3rd round doesn't seem very plausible to me. Schmitt is a 4th round pick.
I don't think there's any value at S in this draft, and Morgan in the 2nd isn't a better prospect than Steve Cargile or Roderick Rogers and getting a DT there would be much better value for the Broncos.


I wouldn't argue if we got Laws in the 2nd round. Malcolm Kelly isn't going to be able to do a lot of the workouts b/c of a thigh injury.

Also, you must not have heard that DeSean Jackson measured in at 5'9 and 169 lbs. Most were projecting him at 6' 185lbs. That 3" and coming in under a buck 70 will affect is draft status BIG TIME!

Schmitt is injured right now, though I admit I don't know the extent. If he can't work out there is a good chance he falls a bit.

Frank Okam is almost identical to Tim Crowder. His physical attributes make you wonder why he wasn't more productive in college. He'll likely test better than people expect and get drafted on potential as opposed to production. Good coaching and the business side of football can help a guy like Frank Okam.

mattob14
02-23-2008, 12:27 PM
Let me try...

1(29) OT Chris Williams
2(39) WR, Malcolm Kelly (since we trade Walker away and he'll drop a little)
2(42) S, DaJuan MorganWR
3(83) WR, DeSean Jackson (5'9 and closer to 150 than 200... he'll fall a lot!)
4(104) DT, Frank Okam
5(130) OLB, Ezra Butler
5(140) FB, Owen Schmitt
7(202) Punter, Mike Dragosavich

I'd love it, but no way it happens. Williams, Jackson, and Schmitt should all go much higher than that. If Kelly's healthy and works out well later in the process, he'll be long gone too.

Dedhed
02-23-2008, 05:00 PM
Have you seen Morgan play? There's a reason that Mayock had him as his #1 S over Phillips. I'd be real happy to get him in the 2nd - although I'm guessing that isn't the direction the Broncos will go given their history.
There will be two OTs and 3 DTs that would provide way more value to the Broncos.

brncs_fan
02-23-2008, 05:16 PM
I don't think that the 49ers trade would happen. They have so many holes that could be filled that I think they will just sit back and see who falls to them. They might go up a spot or two, but they are not going to give up their second to do it.