Jonathan Vilma is available. Jets need a receiver badly.

[colonelbeef]

The Jets need a deep threat in the worst way. Vilma, when healthy, is a dominating MLB. Don't believe the hype regarding his attitude, I live in NYC, listen to sportstalk radio all the time, am forced to watch Jet games on occasion- the guy has a head on his shoulders. He is a young guy that has been frustrated with the direction of the team, as well as injuries, but in my estimation, has held up well all considered, for a young guy. If healthy, he is a gem. Walker and a late pick, or say a 3rd rounder next year, for Vilma. Get it done.

[colonelbeef]

make that a 5th or 6th rounder. Reading up on Jets blogs, the thought it that he is worth a 3rd rounder *if healthy* right now Walker and a 6th this year. Done.

[TheDave]

Medical issue for medical issue... Fine by me. But we should be getting the pick not the jets.

[Ray Finkle]

pass....Vilma for Walker straight up? yes, no picks.

[Atwater His Ass]

Fill a need while creating another. No thanks.

[HEAV]

One leg is longer than then the other, leading to his knee issue (Micro-fracture) and the chances of futher issues down the road.

hmmmm It's a tough issue to deal with, trading your injury for their injury.

[ant1999e]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Vilma

"Vilma was diagnosed with osteochondritis dissecans (OCD) in high school, a bone defect that can cause instability and loose particles in the joint, and this is a possible cause behind his season-ending 2007 injury."

[colonelbeef]

Vilma's upside is higher than that of Walker, plus he is younger. Both have had season ending leg injuries, that is a wash. All said and done, if he is worth a 3rd rounder, and Walker is worth roughly a late 4- 5th rounder, some other compensation would be necessary. Kid is 26, its worth a shot. DJ and Vilma played together at Miami, no? Obviously I am taking for granted that he will be healthy. When healthy, Vilma is a top 3 MLB, tackling machine, speed to cover any TE in the game. In other words, he is exactly what the Broncos need, toughness and speed up the middle.

[bronco militia]

Fill a need while creating another. No thanks.


the broncos got by without Walker for most of 2008. fix the OL, and Glen friggen Martinez will look like the next Rod Smith

:~ohyah!:

Besides, it all depends on how you value each position. Since B-Marsh is the #1 guy, there's no way in hell I'd vallue Walker over a starting NFL MLB.

[bronco militia]

One leg is longer than then the other, leading to his knee issue (Micro-fracture) and the chances of futher issues down the road.

hmmmm It's a tough issue to deal with, trading your injury for their injury.


damn

[montrose]

Although my offseason preference is for more and more picks, Vilma for Walker would be an interesting deal. I'm not keen on keeping Javon in the AFC, but reuniting Vilma with DJ could be fun to watch.

Unfortunately, I have hard time believing Javon would accept a trade to the Jets with their shaky QB situation. Because of this, the Broncos probably realize any compensation for Javon is going to be minimal as the trading team is going to protect themselves from a) him possibly not wanting to play there. b) his injury history.

Good thought though, and certainly worth a call to the Jets FO.

[oubronco]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Vilma

"Vilma was diagnosed with osteochondritis dissecans (OCD) in high school, a bone defect that can cause instability and loose particles in the joint, and this is a possible cause behind his season-ending 2007 injury."

well that doesn't sound too good

[colonelbeef]

Fill a need while creating another. No thanks.

Receivers are far easier to find than top flite linebackers (when healthy)

the offense was fine last year, Walker was nowhere to be seen. offense is not the trouble with this team; crap tackling was. easier to find a speedy receiver with a 3rd rounder than a starting MLB.

How is this creating a need, when Walker was nonexistant last year anyway? the only need Javon Walker fills on the Broncos is AIWLB (always injured whiny little b*tch)

[colonelbeef]

the broncos got by without Walker for most of 2008. fix the OL, and Glen friggen Martinez will look like the next Rod Smith

:~ohyah!:

Besides, it all depends on how you value each position. Since B-Marsh is the #1 guy, there's no way in hell I'd vallue Walker over a starting NFL MLB.



precisely. I am not guaranteeing that Vilma is the answer; he is however worth a long hard look.

[Atwater His Ass]

WR are easy to find? Since when? How many WR picks did we flop on before hitting with Marshall?

You can get all butt-hurt if you want about Javon, but he would have a better impact on this team than Vilma, giving Cutler two #1 caliber WRs.

[colonelbeef]

He has 1 year left on his rookie contract. He plays, he gets paid. If he can go this year, shanahan has to do this. Either way, its a good salary dump (walker) and a decent shot to take. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/2008/02/22/2008-02-22_jonathan_vilma_can_fly_away.html

[Hotrod]

This trade get the official Hotrod stamp of approval :believeit

[TheDave]

He has 1 year left on his rookie contract. He plays, he gets paid. If he can go this year, shanahan has to do this. Either way, its a good salary dump (walker) and a decent shot to take. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/2008/02/22/2008-02-22_jonathan_vilma_can_fly_away.html

Neither Vilma nor the club explained the nature of the injury, but it was related to a pre-existing condition that required complicated surgery. In the meantime, rookie David Harris flourished in Vilma's role as the defensive signal-caller. In fact, the overall defense improved with Harris in the lineup on a full-time basis.

Tell me that doesn't sound like a future Bronco... ::)

[rbackfactory80]

WR are easy to find? Since when? How many WR picks did we flop on before hitting with Marshall?

You can get all butt-hurt if you want about Javon, but he would have a better impact on this team than Vilma, giving Cutler two #1 caliber WRs.

You obviously don't believe in a thing called chemistry. Walker has proven to not be a team player his entire career. And besides its not about any position. It is about finding the right combination of players that get better together. As talented a Javon is, he will not help this team next year. He is a selfish human.

[colonelbeef]

WR are easy to find? Since when? How many WR picks did we flop on before hitting with Marshall?

You can get all butt-hurt if you want about Javon, but he would have a better impact on this team than Vilma, giving Cutler two #1 caliber WRs.

If you think this team needs offense more than defense, a 2nd receiver more than a MLB, then you haven't a clue as to why this team lost this year. I never said drafting was the only way to get a decent 2nd threat, and besides, just because Shanahan whiffed on a number of picks leading up to Marshall does not mean the talent wasn't there. Marcus Nash anyone?

[oubronco]

well i guess he would get his wish to be the #1 guy if he went to NY they don't have alot do they ?

[bowtown]

Vilma's upside is higher than that of Walker, plus he is younger. Both have had season ending leg injuries, that is a wash. All said and done, if he is worth a 3rd rounder, and Walker is worth roughly a late 4- 5th rounder, some other compensation would be necessary. Kid is 26, its worth a shot.

Exactly and IMO there will be enough teams interested in Vilma that that 3rd might bump up to a 2nd... depending on his health. How about Walker, Gold and a 6th for a healthy Vilma? I think that's a pretty fair trade. Obviously in a vacuume Walker is worth more than that but, with his situation on this team and his contract, I think this is pretty even, and I for one would do it in a hearbeat and then go sign Boss Bailey. You want a D that has some character and chemistry? How does the Baily Brothers and the Miami Monsters sound? It makes me salivate.

[-Slap-]

Quote:
Neither Vilma nor the club explained the nature of the injury, but it was related to a pre-existing condition that required complicated surgery. In the meantime, rookie David Harris flourished in Vilma's role as the defensive signal-caller. In fact, the overall defense improved with Harris in the lineup on a full-time basis.

Tell me that doesn't sound like a future Bronco... ::)

David Harris was my fallback plan if we didn't get Willis last year. Instead, we can get the undersized, broken down guy he replaced. As an added bonus, we can further jerk DJ Williams around by making him switch positions for the fourth time in five years. Not to mention the three different defensive schemes we've asked him to learn. Man, it's really shocking that he doesn't instinctively flow to the football, isn't it?

[bronco militia]

You can get all butt-hurt if you want about Javon, but he would have a better impact on this team than Vilma, giving Cutler two #1 caliber WRs.

sure, if we have to score 40 points every week

[colonelbeef]

If it doesn't work, he gets injured again lets say- worst case scenario, He is on the last year of his contract. Its a no brainer. walker is no certainty either, last I checked, he missed almost all of last season due to a leg injury- his second such career threatening leg injury. If it doesn't work, at least you took a shot on a guy with some upside, and now have the salary relief from dumping walker and his whining for 2009.

[oubronco]

David Harris was my fallback plan if we didn't get Willis last year. Instead, we can get the undersized, broken down guy he replaced. As an added bonus, we can further jerk DJ Williams around by making him switch positions for the fourth time in five years. Not to mention the three different defensive schemes we've asked him to learn. Man, it's really shocking that he doesn't instinctively flow to the football, isn't it?

good post :notworthy

[montrose]

David Harris was my fallback plan if we didn't get Willis last year. Instead, we can get the undersized, broken down guy he replaced. As an added bonus, we can further jerk DJ Williams around by making him switch positions for the fourth time in five years. Not to mention the three different defensive schemes we've asked him to learn. Man, it's really shocking that he doesn't instinctively flow to the football, isn't it?

I think DJ moving back to WLB may be refreshing to him. It's his natural position, and by the far the easiest on the field mentally of the 3 LB positions. I wouldn't see him being too upset, especially considering Vilma is his best friend in the entire NFL.

[TheDave]

David Harris was my fallback plan if we didn't get Willis last year. Instead, we can get the undersized, broken down guy he replaced. As an added bonus, we can further jerk DJ Williams around by making him switch positions for the fourth time in five years. Not to mention the three different defensive schemes we've asked him to learn. Man, it's really shocking that he doesn't instinctively flow to the football, isn't it?

At this point getting anything for Walker falls under the clause of "Something is better than nothing"... But Vilma seems to have some pretty serious knee issues. Combine that what you said about DJ and this something may actually be less than nothing.

[Atwater His Ass]

If you think this team needs offense more than defense, a 2nd receiver more than a MLB, then you haven't a clue as to why this team lost this year. I never said drafting was the only way to get a decent 2nd threat, and besides, just because Shanahan whiffed on a number of picks leading up to Marshall does not mean the talent wasn't there. Marcus Nash anyone?

Getting a new LB corp isn't going to make much of a difference without first upgrading the DT position. If you were talking about trading Walker for a starting caliber DT, I'd be a lot more interested.

Sorry, but trading a talented #1 caliber WR for an injured LB with serious health concerns while creating another need on the team just doesn't do it for me.

[colonelbeef]

David Harris was my fallback plan if we didn't get Willis last year. Instead, we can get the undersized, broken down guy he replaced. As an added bonus, we can further jerk DJ Williams around by making him switch positions for the fourth time in five years. Not to mention the three different defensive schemes we've asked him to learn. Man, it's really shocking that he doesn't instinctively flow to the football, isn't it?


Undersized to the point that he lead the league in tackles in 2005, 4 forced fumbles, when last in the 4-3. he is 6'1 230; al wilson was listed at 6'0 240. Zach Thomas is 5'11 228. Size isn't everything. Getting a MLB puts DJ back in his natural position, a move back to the position he has played since high school would not be that much to ask. The defensive scheme disaster exists outside of this situation.

[oubronco]

Getting a new LB corp isn't going to make much of a difference without first upgrading the DT position. If you were talking about trading Walker for a starting caliber DT, I'd be a lot more interested.

Sorry, but trading a talented #1 caliber WR for an injured LB with serious health concerns while creating another need on the team just doesn't do it for me.

well seeing that if they don't trade him he will be cut i'd have to say they better get what they can get :thumbs:

[NFLBRONCO]

Vilma's lifespan in Denver

He will play great in 08 and get big money
In 09 he will fall apart and Denver is left with another cap hit

Sound's familar doesn't it

[colonelbeef]

I have to go for the day after this post, so I will sum up my [admittedly optimistic] position on the subject. Jonathan Vilma is 26. 2 seasons ago he was arguably the best MLB in the entire NFL. He is coming off a major injury, no doubt. So is Javon Walker, the malcontent with 3 years remaining on a $40 million contract and 2 career threatening injuries to his legs over the past 4 years. With the emergence of Brandon Marshall, a few promising younger options, (Martinez, perhaps draftee) the continued steadiness of Brandon Stokley, and a sound receiving threat emerging in Tony Scheffler, I believe that the defense, and linebacking corps in particular, is a tremendous area of need for the Broncos. The 2007 season was ruined by a complete lack of run defense by Bates system. *If* healthy, this move is a win win. If he seems healthy then gets injured next year, hey, we still got rid of walker and now have that salary freed up for next year.

[colonelbeef]

Atwater, you have to realize that Walker is seen as being damaged goods, probably to the same extent that Vilma is. If we are lucky, Walker will have the same value, all things being equal. Chances are walker is worth less on the open market unfotunately.

[Atwater His Ass]

well seeing that if they don't trade him he will be cut i'd have to say they better get what they can get :thumbs:

I'm not convinced Walker will be gone. I think there is posturing being done, and talks being looked into, but when all the smoke clears, I would not be surprised to see Walker playing for Denver next season.

[Punisher]

Bring him in :)

[~Crash~]

you guys mis the real trade


add Gold for Cole

and two teams get rid of all there offseason issues

[colonelbeef]

you guys miss the real trade


add Gold for Cole

and two teams get rid of all there offseason issues

Now that is quite interesting. Then Use the 12th pick to grab a DT, 2nd rounder on a OT, grab another LB and a S later on, and we are in business

[MileHighMagic]

you guys mis the real trade


add Gold for Cole

and two teams get rid of all there offseason issues

I have always thought Coles was pretty damn good. He just can't stay healthy. I would take a chance, if cheap.

[cutthemdown]

Vilma is a physical wreck I would stay away

[cutthemdown]

I'm not convinced Walker will be gone. I think there is posturing being done, and talks being looked into, but when all the smoke clears, I would not be surprised to see Walker playing for Denver next season.

your crazy Walker is 100 percent gone from Denver.

[Gcver2ver3]

on more than a couple occasions i've brought up Vilma...

the people that keep finding reasons to not do this might wanna remember that Walker isn't exactly commanding a lot of trade value in the first place...

if we can get someone who has a chance of being a solid if not better than solid MLB then i say pull the trigger....one for one swap...


that would be a lot better than nothing...Vilma is young...plenty of football left in hem...

[STBumpkin]

Sorry, but trading a talented #1 caliber WR for an injured LB with serious health concerns while creating another need on the team just doesn't do it for me.

Try thinking of it this way:

trading a talented starting calibre MLB for an injured WR with serious health concerns.

Vilma and Walker are both damaged goods, no matter which way you look at it.

[alkemical]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Vilma

"Vilma was diagnosed with osteochondritis dissecans (OCD) in high school, a bone defect that can cause instability and loose particles in the joint, and this is a possible cause behind his season-ending 2007 injury."



This sold me under the "no" category.

[Dendave]

I have to go for the day after this post


:welcome:

[Gcver2ver3]

I'm not convinced Walker will be gone.

take a sniff of the nearest smelling salt...

[colonelbeef]

haha. Actually snowed here this morning, first time all year. Appt cancelled on me.

[bronco militia]

you guys mis the real trade


add Gold for Cole

and two teams get rid of all there offseason issues

another issue is the Jets switched to 3-4 before 2007. Not sure why they'd want Gold.

hell, why would any team want Ian Gold Ha!

[~Crash~]

another issue is the Jets switched to 3-4 before 2007. Not sure why they'd want Gold.

hell, why would any team want Ian Gold Ha!


he will make a S . or use him to move up n the draft...

[SleepingTiger]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Vilma

"Vilma was diagnosed with osteochondritis dissecans (OCD) in high school, a bone defect that can cause instability and loose particles in the joint, and this is a possible cause behind his season-ending 2007 injury."

if you believe this, i got the winning lottery ticket in my back pocket i will sell you for a cheap price. this sounds like a serious disease and yet the jets still pick him with a top 15 pick? not only that, during the draft, nothing was said about this. not only that, wikipedia is known to have total bs in website. anyone can get in and edit anything. as a matter a fact, i can come in and delete that entry about Vilma.

[BroncosMT]

I think one thing to remember is that Vilma was diagnosed with this in High School....then had a pretty good College and start to his Pro career. I think Vilma is worth a look at least. I think that this could be explored and I think that Williams may welcome the move back to his natural position.

[eddie mac]

David Harris was my fallback plan if we didn't get Willis last year. Instead, we can get the undersized, broken down guy he replaced. As an added bonus, we can further jerk DJ Williams around by making him switch positions for the fourth time in five years. Not to mention the three different defensive schemes we've asked him to learn. Man, it's really shocking that he doesn't instinctively flow to the football, isn't it?

He'll be flowing straight to the FA pool as well whenever his contract is up after all the **** he's had to put up with the coaching staff here.

[eddie mac]

you guys mis the real trade


add Gold for Cole

and two teams get rid of all there offseason issues

Gold doesn't fit in a 3-4.

[fontaine]

Hey great, let's get another injury riddled player for a key position in the middle of our defense.

While we're at it, let resign Courtney Brown, bring in Paul Toviessi for another look, and get Sam Adams back on the phone, you know just for old times sake because so many other injury risk moves we've made have worked out so well for us right!

[Doggcow]

I say bring him in. It couldn't hurt.

[-Slap-]

Hey great, let's get another injury riddled player for a key position in the middle of our defense.

While we're at it, let resign Courtney Brown, bring in Paul Toviessi for another look, and get Sam Adams back on the phone, you know just for old times sake because so many other injury risk moves we've made have worked out so well for us right!

What do you mean? We got one strong season out of Javon "I need a" Walker.

[fontaine]

What do you mean? We got one strong season out of Javon "I need a" Walker.

:spit:

[Bladerunner]

I say bring him in. It couldn't hurt.

He's not a free agent, he's looking to get traded.

[colonelbeef]

Hey great, let's get another injury riddled player for a key position in the middle of our defense.

While we're at it, let resign Courtney Brown, bring in Paul Toviessi for another look, and get Sam Adams back on the phone, you know just for old times sake because so many other injury risk moves we've made have worked out so well for us right!


Clearly you haven't read the particulars as to why this move makes a ton of sense. Not to mention the fact that ironically you are basing your negative attitude towards this trade on the premise that we should instead keep a player the Broncos acquired *off of an injury*

[DB_champ24]

Fill a need while creating another. No thanks.

or cut him and have 2 needs?

[ant1999e]

if you believe this, i got the winning lottery ticket in my back pocket i will sell you for a cheap price. this sounds like a serious disease and yet the jets still pick him with a top 15 pick? not only that, during the draft, nothing was said about this. not only that, wikipedia is known to have total bs in website. anyone can get in and edit anything. as a matter a fact, i can come in and delete that entry about Vilma.

Well then sir, I suggest you do your own google search of Jonathan Vilma and osteochondritis dissecans.

I'll be waiting for your response (apology).:wiggle:

[DBroncos4life]

If we traded for Vilma atleast he would show up to camp. Walker isn't going to do anything for us this year atleast get someone that MAY help us. Vilma isn't half bad when healthy.

[RunSilentRunDeep]

DEAD MAN WALKING! No thanks. With the money teams are going to have to deal out in FA signing bonuses, Walker's contract is actually pretty nice for the team receiving him. That value makes him worth more than Vilma.

[bowtown]

DEAD MAN WALKING! No thanks. With the money teams are going to have to deal out in FA signing bonuses, Walker's contract is actually pretty nice for the team receiving him. That value makes him worth more than Vilma.

This is a joke right?

[broncofan2438]

Sounds good, sign him up

[fontaine]

Clearly you haven't read the particulars as to why this move makes a ton of sense. Not to mention the fact that ironically you are basing your negative attitude towards this trade on the premise that we should instead keep a player the Broncos acquired *off of an injury*

You think just because I don't want to trade for a broken down, busted LBer at Mike with a chronic knee, that I want to keep Walker in Denver?

:rofl:

The Mike position is one of the most physically demanding in the game. Anyone who thinks a guy with a shredded knee is going to hold up here over 16 games behind our non-existent DTs really needs to stop this self induced torture.

Perspective is a great thing. It allows me to realize that Al Wilson was probably the toughest sonofagun MLB in the league for the past 5 years where we routinely fielded average to lousy DTs in front of him. Or do people think Al just wore down or just got old?
LOL

It's the same perspective that allows me to realize that a criminal like Ray Lewis is a p*ssy in comparison who broke down physically when he had to go through two seasons without solid DTs in front of him.

I'm sure he's a nice kid, so I mean this in the nicest way possible, but Jonathan Vilma with a suspect knee is NFL roadkill behind our DL.

[fdf]

Tell me that doesn't sound like a future Bronco... ::)

If I didn't know better, I would think they were talking about Willie Middlebrooks, or that second round DE with the funny name that never played a down, or the Claw, or . . .

[SleepingTiger]

Well then sir, I suggest you do your own google search of Jonathan Vilma and osteochondritis dissecans.

I'll be waiting for your response (apology).:wiggle:


:notworthy


it just surprises me that the jets are willing to take someone that high and knowing they had a bone disease.

[-Slap-]

The Jets drafted:

Lam Jones over Anthony Munoz

Ken O'Brien over Dan Marino

Al Toon over Jerry Rice

Blair Thomas over Cortez Kennedy and Junior Seau

Browning Nagle over Brett Favre

Kyle Brady over Warren Sapp

Keyshawn Jones first overall

[Atlas]

Receivers are far easier to find than top flite linebackers (when healthy)


That's wrong. LBers taken in the first round have the highest success rate of any other position taken in the NFL draft. Where as WRs have one of the lowest success rates.

[Killericon]

Keyshawn Jones first overall

What year was THAT draft?

[Broncojef]

You think just because I don't want to trade for a broken down, busted LBer at Mike with a chronic knee, that I want to keep Walker in Denver?

:rofl:

The Mike position is one of the most physically demanding in the game. Anyone who thinks a guy with a shredded knee is going to hold up here over 16 games behind our non-existent DTs really needs to stop this self induced torture.

Perspective is a great thing. It allows me to realize that Al Wilson was probably the toughest sonofagun MLB in the league for the past 5 years where we routinely fielded average to lousy DTs in front of him. Or do people think Al just wore down or just got old?
LOL

It's the same perspective that allows me to realize that a criminal like Ray Lewis is a p*ssy in comparison who broke down physically when he had to go through two seasons without solid DTs in front of him.

I'm sure he's a nice kid, so I mean this in the nicest way possible, but Jonathan Vilma with a suspect knee is NFL roadkill behind our DL.



Couldn't agree more...MLB especially behind our line is a violent meatgrinder of a position. Tons of tackles and tons of day in day out physical wear and tear. I would pass on Vilma at this point.

[Broncojef]

What year was THAT draft?

Keyshawn was drafted first overall in 1996.

[Killericon]

Keyshawn was drafted first overall in 1996.

*Sigh*

I know that Keyshawn Johnson was drafted in '96. I was merely poking fun at the fact that he said Keyshawn JONES was drafted first overall.

[MechanicalBull]

The Jets drafted:

Lam Jones over Anthony Munoz

Ken O'Brien over Dan Marino

Al Toon over Jerry Rice

Blair Thomas over Cortez Kennedy and Junior Seau

Browning Nagle over Brett Favre

Kyle Brady over Warren Sapp

Keyshawn Jones first overall

Don't forget the great FB Roger Vick Ha!
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[Broncoman13]

You think just because I don't want to trade for a broken down, busted LBer at Mike with a chronic knee, that I want to keep Walker in Denver?

:rofl:

The Mike position is one of the most physically demanding in the game. Anyone who thinks a guy with a shredded knee is going to hold up here over 16 games behind our non-existent DTs really needs to stop this self induced torture.

Perspective is a great thing. It allows me to realize that Al Wilson was probably the toughest sonofagun MLB in the league for the past 5 years where we routinely fielded average to lousy DTs in front of him. Or do people think Al just wore down or just got old?
LOL

It's the same perspective that allows me to realize that a criminal like Ray Lewis is a p*ssy in comparison who broke down physically when he had to go through two seasons without solid DTs in front of him.

I'm sure he's a nice kid, so I mean this in the nicest way possible, but Jonathan Vilma with a suspect knee is NFL roadkill behind our DL.

:strong: Nice post. Al Wilson was the F'n man having gone through that for years!

[Broncoman13]

The Jets drafted:

Lam Jones over Anthony Munoz

Ken O'Brien over Dan Marino

Al Toon over Jerry Rice

Blair Thomas over Cortez Kennedy and Junior Seau

Browning Nagle over Brett Favre

Kyle Brady over Warren Sapp

Keyshawn Jones first overall


The jets aren't supposed to draft well. The football gods would never allow it. Even when they had 4 first round picks they were tortured with Sh!t for talent!

http://football.about.com/od/nfldrafthistory/a/2000draftresult.htm

[lex]

The Jets drafted:

Lam Jones over Anthony Munoz

Ken O'Brien over Dan Marino

Al Toon over Jerry Rice

Blair Thomas over Cortez Kennedy and Junior Seau

Browning Nagle over Brett Favre

Kyle Brady over Warren Sapp

Keyshawn Jones first overall


Al Toon was a good player. He got injured though. Thats not NYs fault. I thought you were going to cite the Jeff Lageman pick which prompted Mel Kiper to say, "this proves the Jets dont know what the draft is about."...or something like that.

[-Slap-]

Al Toon was a good player. He got injured though. Thats not NYs fault. I thought you were going to cite the Jeff Lageman pick which prompted Mel Kiper to say, "this proves the Jets dont know what the draft is about."...or something like that.

That would be rather stupid since Lagemen went on to play strong football for the Jets, justifying his selection in the middle of the first round. Mel was wrong and Mike Hickey was right.