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spdirty
02-22-2008, 12:08 AM
Murtha Named Top Porker in 2007
By Fred Lucas
CNSNews.com Staff Writer
February 21, 2008
(CNSNews.com) - Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa.) was named "Porker of the Year" for 2007 on Wednesday by the taxpayer watchdog group Citizens Against Government Waste (CAGW).
The organization, which promotes fiscal responsibility and federal earmarks reform, conducted an online poll of 3,400 people about members of Congress. The often controversial Murtha, chairman of the House subcommittee on defense appropriations, won with 63.4 percent of the votes cast, according to CAGW.
In FY 2008, which began last October, Murtha secured 72 earmarks worth $149.2 million for his district, according to CAGW.
"For flouting the rules and playing games with reform, while filing spending bills with pork and arrogantly threatening anyone that challenges his authority, Rep. Jack Murtha is the 2007 Porker of the Year," the CAGW announcement said.
A spokesman from Murtha's press office could not be reached for comment Wednesday.
No other lawmaker came close to Murtha's vote tally.
The distant runner-up was Rep. Don Young (R-Alaska) with 10.6 percent of the vote, while Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark.) came in third place with 9.9 percent, followed by Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.) who had 6.7 percent, and Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.) tied with Rep. James Oberstar (D-Minn.) for 4.1 percent.
Murtha made news for earmarks in May 2007 after attempting to insert a $23 million earmark for the National Drug Intelligence Center in Johnstown, Pa., in the intelligence authorization bill.
In 2006, the House Government Reform Committee called the center "an expensive and duplicative use of scarce federal drug enforcement resources."
Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.) made a motion to remove the earmark and later told reporters Murtha threatened legislative retribution. Rogers reported that Murtha said, "I hope you don't have any earmarks in the defense appropriations bills, because they are gone, and you will not get any earmarks now and forever."
Rep. Todd Tiahrt (R-Kan.) also said Murtha threatened federal funding for a Boeing project in his Kansas district after Tiahrt voted with Rogers.
Republicans sought to reprimand Murtha, but the measure failed on a 219-189 party line vote.
"Rep. Jack Murtha has long been known inside the Beltway for using threats, power plays, and backroom deals to control spending decisions," the CAGW announcement said.
"There is an area of the House floor known as 'Murtha's corner,' where the legendary appropriator dispenses earmarks. The overwhelming vote for Porker of the Year vote shows that his shameful behavior is attracting attention throughout the country," it added.
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200802/NAT20080221a.html
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-22-2008, 12:35 AM
Ha ha ha! :laugh:
Chump change compared to the taxpayer tab for the six year borrow and spend orgy by Bush and his rubber stamp GOP Congress.
spdirty
02-22-2008, 12:40 AM
Ha ha ha! :laugh:
Chump change compared to the taxpayer tab for the six year borrow and spend orgy by Bush and his rubber stamp GOP Congress.
So, in your world its perfectly OK for Murtha to pull this shlt. Only cuz of Bush. So, in your f@cked up world, because Bush is a prlck, etc., its OK for any of these other c@****ckers, so long as theyre democrats, to do whatever the hell they want, and put out all the earmarks they want. Am I getting warm?
And then you accuse others of deflection. Pathetic.
Kaylore
02-22-2008, 12:44 AM
LAChangethesubjecttoBush, so then you agree that Murtha has behaved inappropriately? I mean if you don't like it when Bush does it, then you must have the same standard for the most bloated porker in Washington right?
/waits for LAChangthesubject's waffling.
spdirty
02-22-2008, 12:47 AM
You know LABF, your like a little kid. Its like when my 5 year old is caught eating candy when and where he isnt suppose to, and his response is "well, well daddy, Nevyn (my 3 year old neice) gave it to me."
grow up. Wrong is wrong.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-22-2008, 12:47 AM
So, in your world its perfectly OK for Murtha to pull this shlt. Only cuz of Bush. So, in your f@cked up world, because Bush is a prlck, etc., its OK for any of these other c@******ers, so long as theyre democrats, to do whatever the hell they want, and put out all the earmarks they want. Am I getting warm?
And then you accuse others of deflection. Pathetic.
Nope.
I'm not defending him.
I just think it's funny how you get outraged about something like this while you turn a blind eye to much more egregious profligate spending and corruption in your own party, that's all.
You're like a guy who steers our attention (and our outrage) to a shoplifter next door when there's a bank robbery going on across the street.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-22-2008, 12:48 AM
You know LABF, your like a little kid. Its like when my 5 year old is caught eating candy when and where he isnt suppose to, and his response is "well, well daddy, Nevyn (my 3 year old neice) gave it to me."
grow up. Wrong is wrong.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
This from an inveterate Bush supporter?
The irony is off the charts.
spdirty
02-22-2008, 12:51 AM
Nope.
I'm not defending him.
I just think it's funny how you get outraged about something like this while you turn a blind eye to much more egregious profligate spending and corruption in your own party, that's all.
You're like a guy who steers our attention (and our outrage) to a shoplifter next door when there's a bank robbery going on across the street.
I never turned a blind eye to him. I bashed him when the 3.2 trillion dollar budget came out, and I'm bashing Murtha for this.
Will you at least admit that Murtha is a f@cking scumbag and what he is doing in regards to this is wrong?
I never see that, all I see from you, whenever your heroes get exposed, is more "well well well, Bush Bush Bush, blah blah blah, Bush Bush Bush" deflection bullshlt.
Thats all.
spdirty
02-22-2008, 12:52 AM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
This from an inveterate Bush supporter?
The irony is off the charts.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
This from a Hillary Clinton kool aid drinker.
spdirty
02-22-2008, 12:53 AM
Newsflash: Bush isnt the only scumbag in Washington. Most of his "opponents" are too.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-22-2008, 12:56 AM
LAChangethesubjecttoBush, so then you agree that Murtha has behaved inappropriately? I mean if you don't like it when Bush does it, then you must have the same standard for the most bloated porker in Washington right?
/waits for LAChangthesubject's waffling.
You didn't see me defend him, did you?
I just can't understand how a hypocrite like you can support a president and a party who have borrowed and spent more than any other administration in US history on the one hand and get "outraged" by Murtha's doings on the other.
Sounds really inconsistent to me.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-22-2008, 12:58 AM
I never turned a blind eye to him. I bashed him when the 3.2 trillion dollar budget came out...
Really?
I must have blinked and missed it.
Will you at least admit that Murtha is a f@cking scumbag and what he is doing in regards to this is wrong?
Why?
Will that help you feel like less of an idiot for having supported Bush?
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-22-2008, 12:59 AM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
This from a Hillary Clinton kool aid drinker.
???
WTF are you smoking?
I'm not a Hillary supporter.
spdirty
02-22-2008, 12:59 AM
You didn't see me defend him, did you?
No you deflect, and then accuse others of doing what you do all the time.
I just can't understand how a hypocrite like you can support a president and a party who have borrowed and spent more than any other administration in US history on the one hand and get "outraged" by Murtha's doings on the other.
Sounds really inconsistent to me.
See, those of us who are intellectually honest hate it no matter where it comes from.
God, its like, in your world, this Murtha story shouldn't even be a story. We should all just ignore it, cuz "By God Bush is worse." Really weak.
spdirty
02-22-2008, 01:00 AM
???
WTF are you smoking?
I'm not a Hillary supporter.
yes you are.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-22-2008, 01:00 AM
Newsflash: Bush isnt the only scumbag in Washington. Most of his "opponents" are too.
But you support Bush and condemn his opponents.
That's the difference.
spdirty
02-22-2008, 01:03 AM
Really?
I must have blinked and missed it.
If you would ever decide to pay attention my ratio of comments about Bush that are negative compared to those that are positive are about 8:1.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-22-2008, 01:03 AM
God, its like, in your world, this Murtha story shouldn't even be a story. We should all just ignore it, cuz "By God Bush is worse." Really weak.
I didn't say we should ignore it - I said that I don't understand how you can support a president and party whose spending make Murtha's look like chump change while voicing outrage about Murth's actions.
It's just plain inconsistent.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-22-2008, 01:04 AM
yes you are.
Show me one post where I have indicated that I support Hillary.
You must have me confused with someone else.
spdirty
02-22-2008, 01:04 AM
But you support Bush and condemn his opponents.
That's the difference.
I condemn wasteful spending, wherever it comes from. I haven't supported Bush for 3 years.
spdirty
02-22-2008, 01:05 AM
Show me one post where I have indicated that I support Hillary.
You must have me confused with someone else.
then show me one post in the last year where I have supported Bush.
You must have me confused with someone else.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-22-2008, 01:06 AM
I haven't supportet Bush for 3 years.
Then why have you continued to come to Bush's defense when he is criticized here on the Mane?
spdirty
02-22-2008, 01:07 AM
Then why have you continued to come to Bush's defense when he is criticized here on the Mane?
show me where I have or STFU.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-22-2008, 01:08 AM
then show me one post in the last year where I have supported Bush.
You must have me confused with someone else.
Nope.
Whenever Bush comes under fire, you usually side against the critic.
spdirty
02-22-2008, 01:08 AM
Nope.
Whenever Bush comes under fire, you usually side against the critic.
LOL now its 'siding against the critic?"
I still challenge you to find it. More than 1 though, cuz you said 'continued.'
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-22-2008, 01:09 AM
show me where I have or STFU.
Geat real!
Are you suggesting nobody knows you or your history here?
spdirty
02-22-2008, 01:11 AM
Geat real!
Are you suggesting nobody knows you or your history here?
My history here is that of a conservative. Actually, no, McCain can water that term down so much, hell I call myself a nationalist.
Which doesnt translate into blind support of Bush. Because he is no conservative.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-22-2008, 01:14 AM
I still challenge you to find it.
That would amount to me copying and pasting the entire WRP forum!
I suggest people just read it instead. :welcome:
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-22-2008, 01:16 AM
My history here is that of a conservative. Actually, no, McCain can water that term down so much, hell I call myself a nationalist.
Which doesnt translate into blind support of Bush. Because he is no conservative.
You voted for Bush twice, did you not?
Surely you knew his position on illegal immigration and his record as a big borrower and spender in '04, right?
spdirty
02-22-2008, 01:17 AM
That would amount to me copying and pasting the entire WRP forum!
I suggest people just read it instead. :welcome:
then do it or stfu.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-22-2008, 01:20 AM
then do it or stfu.
:laugh:
Your impression of Peter denying Christ after the rooster crows three times has me in stitches.
spdirty
02-22-2008, 01:20 AM
You voted for Bush twice, did you not?
Surely you knew his position on illegal immigration and his record as a big borrower and spender in '04, right?
First of all, John Kerry scared the hell out of me.
Second, in my past I was also an atheist, mexican/asian whore bangin sum b**** who did other wild and stupid things. But people change. And in the past 3 years I haven't supported that sum bltch unless you want me to annoy the hell out of you by exaggerating every time it appears that you halfway defend Hillary.
spdirty
02-22-2008, 01:27 AM
hell your constant defense of Bill combined with your denial of Hillary is pretty damn funny too.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-22-2008, 01:33 AM
First of all, John Kerry scared the hell out of me.
But Bush's out of control borrowing and spending and proposals to give illegals amnesty didn't scare you just as bad or worse?
Second, in my past I was also an atheist, mexican/asian whore bangin sum b**** who did other wild and stupid things. But people change.
Hey! What's so stupid about those things?
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-22-2008, 01:35 AM
hell your constant defense of Bill combined with your denial of Hillary is pretty damn funny too.
Much (not all, mind you) of Bill's legacy deserves defending.
Bush's legacy is pure sh*t.
Big difference.
spdirty
02-22-2008, 09:04 AM
Much (not all, mind you) of Bill's legacy deserves defending.
Bush's legacy is pure sh*t.
Big difference.
And you don't think that a Hillary presidency will be VERY similar to a Bill presidency?
spdirty
02-22-2008, 09:08 AM
But Bush's out of control borrowing and spending and proposals to give illegals amnesty didn't scare you just as bad or worse?
I had hope that a Bush 2nd term would be a conservative 2nd term. That and all the crap that was coming out of Kerrys mouth. My vote didnt matter anyway cuz he 'stole' it.:wiggle:
Hey! What's so stupid about those things?
Once you have kids they become stupid and immature...for me anyway.
cutthemdown
02-22-2008, 01:32 PM
Murtha is old school corruption
jhat01
02-22-2008, 07:24 PM
But Murtha'a a war hero. Doesn't that make it OK? **** that fat ****ing pig
cutthemdown
02-22-2008, 07:35 PM
I didn't say we should ignore it - I said that I don't understand how you can support a president and party whose spending make Murtha's look like chump change while voicing outrage about Murth's actions.
It's just plain inconsistent.
Murtha also has a part in passing the Presidents budget. Only congress can spend money.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-22-2008, 08:04 PM
Murtha also has a part in passing the Presidents budget. Only congress can spend money.
I'm not saying he should get a pass - I'm just noting how interesting it is that the guy who started this thread never starts threads to complain about the even more egregious borrowing, spending, and all-around waste/corruption by Bush and his rubber stamp GOP Congress.
spdirty
02-22-2008, 08:15 PM
I'm not saying he should get a pass - I'm just noting how interesting it is that the guy who started this thread never starts threads to complain about the even more egregious borrowing, spending, and all-around waste/corruption by Bush and his rubber stamp GOP Congress.
I try all the time but you always beat me to it. Don't want to look repetitive.
On the other hand, had you been the first to come across this story Id bet dollars to doughnuts you wouldn't post it up here.
Because I have never, EVER seen you put up a critical article of a liberal democrat like Murtha. Nor have i seen you directly criticise one beyond the "duuhhh, I'm not defending him, but....(deflection deflection deflection...)"
LABF, at best you are the pot calling the kettle black here.
cutthemdown
02-22-2008, 09:25 PM
I'm not saying he should get a pass - I'm just noting how interesting it is that the guy who started this thread never starts threads to complain about the even more egregious borrowing, spending, and all-around waste/corruption by Bush and his rubber stamp GOP Congress.
Democrats could soon be getting there chance. The thing is Republicans are in power more then Democrats recently. Because of that it's dems attack repubs defend. As soon as it changes then it will be Republicans in here blaming every thing that doesnt go well on the Democrats. You should just read the thread and then give your opinion on that subject. You complain so much about strawman arguments but then turn around and say to everything what about how bad Bush has been? Just stick to on this one to what you think about Murtha, should he be gotten rid of, would America be better off without him?
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-22-2008, 10:39 PM
Because I have never, EVER seen you put up a critical article of a liberal democrat like Murtha.
D'oh!
Did you stop to think about the possibility that this has something to do with the fact that the GOP has been in control of all three branches of government for the better part of the past seven years?
But your claim is bullsh*t anyway as I have started threads criticizing Pelosi, Reid, Rockefeller, et al., since the Dems won back a slender majority in both houses.
epicSocialism4tw
02-23-2008, 04:21 PM
Awesome thread!
/sarcasm
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-24-2008, 01:39 AM
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