career question

[Hotrod]

How much $ would it take inorder to get you to take on twice the work related stress.

Would a guy be crazy to pass a job that lets say is a 50% increase in income but doubles his job related stress?

[cutthemdown]

how old are you?
Do you have kids and a family?
are you making ends meet right now?
how are you looking for retirement and investments?

[cutthemdown]

If you are young, no young kids and could use an influx to the ole retirement account you may want to consider it. Often more responsibilty will lead to much more money.

Another question is the promotion, or new job, going to lead to an even better job?

[Hotrod]

how old are you?
Do you have kids and a family?
are you making ends meet right now?
how are you looking for retirement and investments?

mid 30's
2 kids
making a comfortable living
retirement = very good
investments = fair/poor

[Hotrod]

If you are young, no young kids and could use an influx to the ole retirement account you may want to consider it. Often more responsibilty will lead to much more money.

Another question is the promotion, or new job, going to lead to an even better job?

The new job would probebly open up future options but I have that where I am now.

[Spider]

depends on the person . if you can handle stress or hae an outlet to release ..... go for it

[ant1999e]

Will it take time away from your family?

[Hotrod]

Will it take time away from your family?

Yes the amount is unknown

[ant1999e]

Yes the amount is unknown

Time is more precious than money. I think time with my family is the most valuable thing in life. Time is something you never get back.

[bronclvr]

Been there, done that-it is taxing on your Health, your Family, your Relationships-the money was nice (lived below my means and put most of it away).

I have to admit though, that it did open the Door to a stepped down, even better paying, easier to handle Job (which is where I am now-been here 7 Years).

Would I consider doing it again? Given the same set of circumstances, yes. Responsibility runs high on my personal Agenda, and I was brought up that the man has to take care of his Family.

In the current situation that I perceive that you are in? Tough to answer-I couldn't have done it if everyone in my Family weren't on board, understood the why's and wherewithall's as to why I was doing it. Even so, there were some casualties-I did miss some valuable time with my Boys. They paid a price.

I don't know what you do for a living, Hotrod. You are still young, lots of life to live (and plenty of time to make money, but you ain't getting any younger). I knew in my situation that it was a clear path to funding my retirement (which was a high priority at the time).

I will tell you this-as I was pondering over taking the Job, a close associate said to me "I have never regretted moving or moving up in my work"-I agree with that.

I have a close friend who is a 50 Year old hippy-he doesn't have the money put away that I do, but I'll tell you that I have no doubt that he is happier in life than I, so I really don't think any of us can answer this one for you-it really depends on you. Are you are motivated by money or is your Family/down time more important to you?

[Hotrod]

Been there, done that-it is taxing on your Health, your Family, your Relationships-the money was nice (lived below my means and put most of it away).

I have to admit though, that it did open the Door to a stepped down, even better paying, easier to handle Job (which is where I am now-been here 7 Years).

Would I consider doing it again? Given the same set of circumstances, yes. Responsibility runs high on my personal Agenda, and I was brought up that the man has to take care of his Family.

In the current situation that I perceive that you are in? Tough to answer-I couldn't have done it if everyone in my Family weren't on board, understood the why's and wherewithall's as to why I was doing it. Even so, there were some casualties-I did miss some valuable time with my Boys. They paid a price.

I don't know what you do for a living, Hotrod. You are still young, lots of life to live (and plenty of time to make money, but you ain't getting any younger). I knew in my situation that it was a clear path to funding my retirement (which was a high priority at the time).

I will tell you this-as I was pondering over taking the Job, a close associate said to me "I have never regretted moving or moving up in my work"-I agree with that.

I have a close friend who is a 50 Year old hippy-he doesn't have the money put away that I do, but I'll tell you that I have no doubt that he is happier in life than I, so I really don't think any of us can answer this one for you-it really depends on you. Are you are motivated by money or is your Family/down time more important to you?

Thats the 50 dollar question.

I'm really leaning towards turning it down on the grounds that now is the worst possible time in my life. The money is very tempting to say the least. While time with my kids is certainly a factor I think an even bigger negative would be the increase in stress. I've seen the stress of that position eat people alive.

The other factor is if/when the position became vacant in the future I would again be a leading canidate. That makes me think maybe its a job I do want but will wait until the timing is better.

[Hotrod]

For the record Im a numbers cruncher

[bronclvr]

Will your Employer look down on you for not taking it? Or, will there be other opportunities in your Field in another Company?

[bronclvr]

For the record Im a numbers cruncher

Accountant? Controller? CPA?

[Hotrod]

Will your Employer look down on you for not taking it? Or, will there be other opportunities in your Field in another Company?

Nope it would be working for someone else.

Thats also part of the picture my current boss would be crippled without me. While I wont let that steer my decission it does carry some weight.

[Hotrod]

Accountant? Controller? CPA?

I'll have to take the 5th here.

Too much info and Spider might stalk me.

[bronclvr]

With Spider around, I completely understand! I am the GM where I am, and loyalty goes a long with me ( I would not let you get away unless it was completely out of my range).

My Wife is a Controller/Manager-it is damn hard work, she somes home tired and stressed now, so I think I know where you are. It is not the Job she wanted to do in life, but she has a talent for it.

There ARE a lot of opportunities in your line of work-she turns down offers at least every six Months.

I don't know-I think you are making a wise decision here, your line of work is pretty broad-

[Hotrod]

With Spider around, I completely understand! I am the GM where I am, and loyalty goes a long with me ( I would not let you get away unless it was completely out of my range).

My Wife is a Controller/Manager-it is damn hard work, she somes home tired and stressed now, so I think I know where you are. It is not the Job she wanted to do in life, but she has a talent for it.

There ARE a lot of opportunities in your line of work-she turns down offers at least every six Months.

I don't know-I think you are making a wise decision here, your line of work is pretty broad-

Exactly why I'm turning it down for now. The option will certainly be there once my youngest gets atleast alittle bit older. You know once hes a teenager and no longer thinks Dad is cool and would rather hang with friends :)

[bronclvr]

:thumbs:

[Sassy]

If it's only a money thing...
If you like your job now and your boss. I would stay. Those two things are hard to find. But that's just my opinion. (see rep too!)

[Hotrod]

If it's only a money thing...
If you like your job now and your boss. I would stay. Those two things are hard to find. But that's just my opinion. (see rep too!)

Exactly

I mean if I were having a hard time making ends meet that would be one thing but currently we are doing just fine.

Rep coming back

[elsid13]

Thats the 50 dollar question.

I'm really leaning towards turning it down on the grounds that now is the worst possible time in my life. The money is very tempting to say the least. While time with my kids is certainly a factor I think an even bigger negative would be the increase in stress. I've seen the stress of that position eat people alive.

The other factor is if/when the position became vacant in the future I would again be a leading canidate. That makes me think maybe its a job I do want but will wait until the timing is better.

Are you sure? How would those in charge (not your immediate bosses) see you if you declined the position? I know that sound like petty office politics but you need to consider that factor. Plus does this job lead you further up the chain or is it a job that sucks and people that take it end up out of the company?

[cutthemdown]

I'd go for it and save the money. Live same way but earn more. Your still young so you can handle the stress and look for a more stress free job when you get into your mid 40's. In the end you could use the extra money to beef up your investments. Maybe even make enough to ward off the impending financial tsunami baja and labf or predicting. In the end if you make more money you will be in a better position to retire earlier or live better when you retire.

[Spider]

I'll have to take the 5th here.

Too much info and Spider might stalk me.

:stirstir: maybe when gas gets cheaper ...........Stalking cost a fortune now days

[theAPAOps5]

Hotrod here is my .02 cents of advise and take it for what its worth. You already have a ton of stress in your life with whats going on with the homefront. You are trying to work some issues out with the misses and now you take on a job right now that may mean less time at home, more work, and more stress.

I am pretty sure that would throw a wrench in what you are trying to do in your personal life. So I would focus on that and don't worry the money will be there down the road and there will be other positions that come available.

[Hotrod]

Hotrod here is my .02 cents of advise and take it for what its worth. You already have a ton of stress in your life with whats going on with the homefront. You are trying to work some issues out with the misses and now you take on a job right now that may mean less time at home, more work, and more stress.

I am pretty sure that would throw a wrench in what you are trying to do in your personal life. So I would focus on that and don't worry the money will be there down the road and there will be other positions that come available.

That sums things up pretty well.

Like any good American I really hate to pass on cash but money is certainly not everything.

[Sassy]

That sums things up pretty well.

Like any good American I really hate to pass on cash but money is certainly not everything.

If you have a good relationship with your boss, he's going to understand the "why" part of saying No...and I don't think it would reflect on any promotion in the future.

[Spider]

That sums things up pretty well.

Like any good American I really hate to pass on cash but money is certainly not everything.

Love is more important then money untill the bills come due ;D

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Would a guy be crazy to pass a job that lets say is a 50% increase in income but doubles his job related stress?

Hell no.

You can't put a price tag on happiness, health, and peace of mind.

[That One Guy]

Hell no.

You can't put a price tag on happiness, health, and peace of mind.

Exactly. I'm currently in the process of leaving the military to go to college and one of my top reasons is that if I must spend a third of my life doing something, I'm going to find something I enjoy. If I die tomorrow, that savings account I've been working on wont help me any. Maybe get me a better casket

[ak1971]

chase the money greed is good!

Anybody who tells you money is the root of all evil doesn't ****ing have any :thanku:

[Dudeskey]

How much $ would it take inorder to get you to take on twice the work related stress.

Would a guy be crazy to pass a job that lets say is a 50% increase in income but doubles his job related stress?

50% increase but a 100% increase of stress? For me the answer would be somewhere in the neighborhood of no and **** no.

[theAPAOps5]

chase the money greed is good!

Anybody who tells you money is the root of all evil doesn't ****ing have any :thanku:

The ones who usually give this advise have no clue either. Ambition is good but not at the sake of your personal life and relationships. Those who say otherwise are idiots.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

The ones who usually give this advise have no clue either. Ambition is good but not at the sake of your personal life and relationships. Those who say otherwise are idiots.

:thumbsup: ^5

[Bronco Jamus]

Nope it would be working for someone else.

Thats also part of the picture my current boss would be crippled without me. While I wont let that steer my decission it does carry some weight.

I would field the offer and give my current employer an offer to meet it, or look for a 25 percent gain. You have to leverage your position if you're that important to your current employer. You have to work out a deal that is good for you to stay and get a gain in salary.

[alkemical]

I'm not going to read the posts on this thread till later -

but for me, it'd have to be AT LEAST double my salary.

[TailgateNut]

50% increase but a 100% increase of stress? For me the answer would be somewhere in the neighborhood of no and **** no.


No doubt, I used to manage projects which were in $10-40million range and the STRESS was unbelievable and most of these projects either involved several hours of travel a day or staying out of town. Now I limit myself to smaller projects ($1-7million) in the immediate area and it's like "childsplay". Little ofr no stress with minor pocket change cuts, and I have plenty of time for family, friends and TAILGATING.:wiggle:

[Old Dude]

How much more $ for a 50% stress increase?

20's: 10% more $
30's: 25% more $
40's: 75% more $
50's: 150% more $
60's: 300% more $

[Dudeskey]

No doubt, I used to manage projects which were in $10-40million range and the STRESS was unbelievable and most of these projects either involved several hours of travel a day or staying out of town. Now I limit myself to smaller projects ($1-7million) in the immediate area and it's like "childsplay". Little ofr no stress with minor pocket change cuts, and I have plenty of time for family, friends and TAILGATING.:wiggle:

Yeah, definitely have to have a balance between work/ having a life otherwise it leads to burnout .

[cbs1177]

Hotrod you have to ask yourself some key question are you bored at your job right now? Are you ready for a challenge? If you are not totally in a comfort zone at your present job then you probably aren't ready. Also if you are bored and seek some more excitement in your job and wanna expand beyond your job if you considered it ho hum. I was in charge of basically myself and then got promoted to a staff of eight and then had to deal with other deptartments at the time to make the outdoor restruant work out right. They then offered me another promotion and I basically turned it down b/c I wasn't satisfy with the restruant as I left it. And if I would have quit many of my employees would have probably left. I told the upper management I still had ideas and stuff to deal with. A side note I have an awesome relationship with the upper management. Even though I turned down the promtion I still got a 6% percent raise. Only advice is if you are bored and want a challenge take it if you still are satisfy with where you are now and challenged most days then keep you present job. I am single so you have and extra variable to the equation but weigh all options.

[Hotrod]

UPDATE

After being given a huge amount of time to decide. I have officially turned the job down. Maybe when my son is alittle older but right now he is still young enough that its cool to hang out with dad. Thats worth more then the $ I was being offered.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

UPDATE

After being given a huge amount of time to decide. I have officially turned the job down. Maybe when my son is alittle older but right now he is still young enough that its cool to hang out with dad. Thats worth more then the $ I was being offered.If you're still unsure about your martial situation, remember, amount of income is used in both child support and alimony determinations.

And stress can be managed and controlled by a lot of people (some can't do it though).

[Hotrod]

If you're still unsure about your martial situation, remember, amount of income is used in both child support and alimony determinations.
And stress can be managed and controlled by a lot of people (some can't do it though).

LOL she was really pushing for this new job. :spit:

Thats not true she was pretty neutral but makes you think.