Bears release WR Muhammed

[ICON]

thoughts?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d806bde90&template=without-video&confirm=true

Muhammed finished the 2007 season, his third with the Bears and 12th in the NFL, with 40 catches for 570 yards and three touchdowns. He played his first nine years with the Carolina Panthers.

[montrose]

If cheap, he'd make for nice depth but he'll likely command more money on the market from another team while Denver's new #2 would be best fit for a guy with deep speed to compliment Marshall.

[CHANGSTER]

Make it happen

[DomCasual]

I like him. But I'd have a hard time forgiving him for what he's done to me in fantasy football the past few years. Every time I have felt he was going to have a decent game, he's choked.

Sorry, I just don't think I can get past that.

[CBF1]

Pass, He is not the type of WR we need.

[cmhargrove]

If he's cheap, i'd take him in a heartbeat. He could hold the fort down while we train another rookie or two. Give him a deal like Stokely, he'd be well worth it for us. He's not worth breaking the bank for, but a really good pickup for the right price.

[bcbronc]

he'd make for a nice redzone threat, but I think another team will offer him a bigger role.

[cmhargrove]

I like him. But I'd have a hard time forgiving him for what he's done to me in fantasy football the past few years. Every time I have felt he was going to have a decent game, he's choked.

Sorry, I just don't think I can get past that.

Just look at who has been throwing it to him in Chicago. Nuff said.

[Inkana7]

I wish he could catch.

[elsid13]

Pass, He is not the type of WR we need.

actually he the type of Mike Shanahan likes - A big body WR that can go across the middle. We play a ball control offense that depends on scheme not speed to get folks deep

[Atlas]

GRAB HIM NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CBF1]

actually he the type of Mike Shanahan likes - A big body WR that can go across the middle. We play a ball control offense that depends on scheme not speed to get folks deep

Because Shanny likes this "Type" does not mean he is what this team needs.

Please use David Terrell and Quincy Morgan as my example. I am on the bandwagon with a few others here that we need a burner to be a deep threat to open up the middle for Schef , Stokley and Graham. Jay has a strong arm and we need to exploit it.

[dbfan21]

I have a friend that used to live in the Chalotte area and it was pretty widely known that Muhammad was a regular user of cocaine. Take it for what it's worth, but I am not so sure on him.

[elsid13]

Because Shanny likes this "Type" does not mean he is what this team needs.

Please use David Terrell and Quincy Morgan as my example. I am on the bandwagon with a few others here that we need a burner to be a deep threat to open up the middle for Schef , Stokley and Graham. Jay has a strong arm and we need to exploit it.

Shanahan is going to look for a WCO WR that can block, if they have speed great. And let face it there is only one opinion that counts - Shanahan's.

[oubronco]

GRAB HIM NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[telluride]

I have a friend that used to live in the Chalotte area and it was pretty widely known that Muhammad was a regular user of cocaine. Take it for what it's worth, but I am not so sure on him.

Well then, Shanny will surely sign him.

[Drek]

Rather have Dante Stallworth, he'd make a good compliment to Marshall.

[ICON]

he'd make for a nice redzone threat, but I think another team will offer him a bigger role.

Moose will be used in the red zone, as well as downfield blocking.

[CBF1]

Word Drek

[oubronco]

I'd rather have Malcolm Kelly or Deshean Jackson but we'll see

[chaz]

I have a friend that used to live in the Chalotte area and it was pretty widely known that Muhammad was a regular user of cocaine. Take it for what it's worth, but I am not so sure on him.

Cocaine isn't tested for in the league testing?!?!

[oubronco]

Cocaine isn't tested for in the league testing?!?!

apparently not Micheal Irvin could attest to that

[Los Broncos]

I have a friend that used to live in the Chalotte area and it was pretty widely known that Muhammad was a regular user of cocaine. Take it for what it's worth, but I am not so sure on him.

Nice, maybe we can bring him in and he can get Henry and Moss off pot.

[elsid13]

Nice, maybe we can bring him in and he can get Henry and Moss off pot.

when did Moss have problem with the wacky weed ??? Do you mean Thomas

[Sassy]

Just look at who has been throwing it to him in Chicago. Nuff said.

He pissed me off in FF too! LOL!

[Goobzilla]

Mooooooooooooooooose!

[BroncoBuff]

If he's cheap, i'd take him in a heartbeat. He could hold the fort down while we train another rookie or two. Give him a deal like Stokely, he'd be well worth it for us. He's not worth breaking the bank for, but a really good pickup for the right price.
Agreed. We don't need a big, flashy bank-buster at #2. Just a reliable sure-handed 50-catch guy who can mop up a few balls after Marshall, Scheffler and Stokely vacuum up the lion's share.

As far as wanting a burner at #2 ... sure, sign me up. But burners don't grow on trees, and our best bet to snag one is the draft, though no rookie WR should be a starter in Mike Shanahan's offense. So then - it's Glen Martinez or a free agent at #2. I like Muhammad over Stallworth for salary reasons.

And I still like Glen Martinez. Can any of the legion of Martinez-haters give me a cogent argument why he can't be our #2 or #4? Good hands and a good punt returner too.

[cmhargrove]

Agreed. We don't need a big, flashy bank-buster at #2. Just a reliable sure-handed 50-catch guy who can mop up a few balls after Marshall, Scheffler and Stokely vacuum up the lion's share.

As far as wanting a burner at #2 ... sure, sign me up. But burners don't grow on trees, and our best bet to snag one is the draft, though no rookie WR should be a starter in Mike Shanahan's offense. So then - it's Glen Martinez or a free agent at #2. I like Muhammad over Stallworth for salary reasons.

And I still like Glen Martinez. Can any of the legion of Martinez-haters give me a cogent argument why he can't be our #2 or #4? Good hands and a good punt returner too.

I'm all for a #4 and fill in #2, he's earned that. I just think we need to try really hard to get a better #2, then settle for Martinez if necessary. Not break the bank, but find the right guy at a bargain price (or draft someone). Remember we have two fourth rounders, and that's where we found Marshall, we can always cross our fingers and hope we find another guy that is 75% of Brandon's skill in the second day of the draft.

[cmhargrove]

Rather have Dante Stallworth, he'd make a good compliment to Marshall.

I think Stallworth would be the better option, if you were willing to shell out a large amount of guaranteed cash. I think Muhammed will be much more affordable, and would sign an incentive laden deal rather than a guaranteed one (based on his age and recent productivity). But, what do I know?

[SoCalBronco]

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And I still like Glen Martinez. Can any of the legion of Martinez-haters give me a cogent argument why he can't be our #2 or #4? Good hands and a good punt returner too.

I don't know Senator, perhaps it could be that:

1. He's a scrub.
2. He is completely unproven, caught only a handful of balls (14) as a 3 or 4 last year against LBs, nickel/dime corners.
3. He lacks real physical talent, despite having halfway decent hands.
4. He's basically another Charlie Adams who is a borderline 4/5 guy.
5. He was completely out of NFL football in 2006 and caught a whopping 1 ball for the Lions in 2005.

He's nowhere near the caliber of a typical NFL 2. He's also not good enough to be an NFL 3, certainly a below average 3 if he had to fill that role. He's a good 4. That's it. I know everyone started jacking off to him because he caught a couple balls in the slot and had a nice return, but he's really nothing of value.

DEN requires an infusion of young talent at WR to supplement B-Marsh. Stokley is 33, Martinez is just a step above camp fodder. That's not a pretty picture. One beast, an old man (who is best as a 3) and a bunch of losers. I realize that in effect, Scheffler is our 2nd option and he is already a very good recieving TE (finished in the top 10 in either yards or receptions I forgot, DESPITE missing 5 games, thats very impressive), but a legitimate no. 2 wide out is also required, preferably a speedster as you noted. We can nab one in Louisville's Harry Douglas. He'll be able to really stretch the field for us.

The only time I want to see Martinez out there is when we go 5-wide.

[Gcver2ver3]

I just can't understand why anyone would want Mushim here...

he's an older battered less talented version of B-Marsh...

It's obvious that a speed guy is the perfect compliment...

I'll take Stallworth....but he's a little shorter than I'd prefer...

Where's Lelie?

Still in San Fran?

[backup qb]

no!

[cmhargrove]

I just can't understand why anyone would want Mushim here...

he's an older battered less talented version of B-Marsh...

It's obvious that a speed guy is the perfect compliment...

I'll take Stallworth....but he's a little shorter than I'd prefer...

Where's Lelie?

Still in San Fran?

People would take a fairly priced Muhammed for the same reason they would have wanted Rod to return this year (and next). We need some affordable, dependable guys on the roster. Muhammed is just a few years removed from being the receiving leader in the NFL. He may be done, maybe not. I think it is very difficult to judge from the poor QB play in Chicago.

As I said before, if he would sign an incentive based deal, it would be very worth the effort. If he wants lots of guaranteed money, he should go elsewhere. If he could be an 800 yard, 8 td pickup for us, it would be a sweet deal for the Broncos. He could fit that role very nicely (if he would do it for the right price).

[BroncoBuff]

People would take a fairly priced Muhammed for the same reason they would have wanted Rod to return this year (and next). We need some affordable, dependable guys on the roster. Muhammed is just a few years removed from being the receiving leader in the NFL. He may be done, maybe not. I think it is very difficult to judge from the poor QB play in Chicago.

As I said before, if he would sign an incentive based deal, it would be very worth the effort. If he wants lots of guaranteed money, he should go elsewhere. If he could be an 800 yard, 8 td pickup for us, it would be a sweet deal for the Broncos. He could fit that role very nicely (if he would do it for the right price).
Well said all around ... :thumbsup:

I agree with you too gcver2ver3. But like I said, burners don't grow on trees, and they're generally expensive. Any affordable FA burner would be either an injury case, bad hands, head case or bad character. That leaves the draft, and we know you cannot start a rookie WR in Shanahan's offense. So who then? Muhammad is the best choice I've seen thus far ... inexpensive, reliable, a true professional, and just a year or two removed from Pro-Bowl level.



I yield to your well-supported Glen Martinez points, SoCal. That is a very empty resume after all. I guess he's just a #4 WR/PR for now, anyway.

[Gcver2ver3]

Well said all around ... :thumbsup:

I agree with you too gcver2ver3. But like I said, burners don't grow on trees, and they're generally expensive. Any affordable FA burner would be either an injury case, bad hands, head case or bad character. That leaves the draft, and we know you cannot start a rookie WR in Shanahan's offense. So who then? Muhammad is the best choice I've seen thus far ... inexpensive, reliable, a true professional, and just a year or two removed from Pro-Bowl level.



I yield to your well-supported Glen Martinez points, SoCal. That is a very empty resume after all. I guess he's just a #4 WR/PR for now, anyway.


i hear ya Buff....

you make valid points...

i personally would be good with ashley lelie...as crazy as it may sound...

Mushim is a good WR...I'm not saying he isn't...but i'm hoping we find someone to stretch the field...

i agree though that a rookie WR isn't the answer either...not as our #2...

[Gcver2ver3]

People would take a fairly priced Muhammed for the same reason they would have wanted Rod to return this year (and next). We need some affordable, dependable guys on the roster. Muhammed is just a few years removed from being the receiving leader in the NFL. He may be done, maybe not. I think it is very difficult to judge from the poor QB play in Chicago.

As I said before, if he would sign an incentive based deal, it would be very worth the effort. If he wants lots of guaranteed money, he should go elsewhere. If he could be an 800 yard, 8 td pickup for us, it would be a sweet deal for the Broncos. He could fit that role very nicely (if he would do it for the right price).

good take...

but i still prefer we pass on Muhsin

[Bronco Billy]

Moose is a good, physical receiver with solid hands that will go over the middle. He's a good blocker. He would be a good #2 here, but he's basically a less-physical Marshall. The guy's smart though and will help out whatever team takes him.

He does lack that "burner" speed we need. Where I think he can really help us is in the red zone. It'll be difficult for teams to match up to two smart, physical receivers on the outside. If they do, it opens up the running game or Stokely in the slot. Last year, we did well moving the ball until we got into the red zone. So, maybe he is the type of guy who can help us. His base salary for last year was $1.9 million - which seems a little steep - compared to what we are paying Marshall.

[lex]

Agreed. We don't need a big, flashy bank-buster at #2. Just a reliable sure-handed 50-catch guy who can mop up a few balls after Marshall, Scheffler and Stokely vacuum up the lion's share.

As far as wanting a burner at #2 ... sure, sign me up. But burners don't grow on trees, and our best bet to snag one is the draft, though no rookie WR should be a starter in Mike Shanahan's offense. So then - it's Glen Martinez or a free agent at #2. I like Muhammad over Stallworth for salary reasons.

And I still like Glen Martinez. Can any of the legion of Martinez-haters give me a cogent argument why he can't be our #2 or #4? Good hands and a good punt returner too.


Thats just it though. Muhammed drops a lot of passes. He's not as sure-handed as you seem to believe.

[Atlas]

I'm all for a #4 and fill in #2, he's earned that. I just think we need to try really hard to get a better #2, then settle for Martinez if necessary. Not break the bank, but find the right guy at a bargain price (or draft someone). Remember we have two fourth rounders, and that's where we found Marshall, we can always cross our fingers and hope we find another guy that is 75% of Brandon's skill in the second day of the draft.

I like Martinez, but he is way to skinny and not explosive enough to be a #2 and play every snap. He would get hurt. He would be a great #4 behind Marshall, Stokley and Whoever else the Broncos get.

[BroncoMan4ever]

Because Shanny likes this "Type" does not mean he is what this team needs.

Please use David Terrell and Quincy Morgan as my example. I am on the bandwagon with a few others here that we need a burner to be a deep threat to open up the middle for Schef , Stokley and Graham. Jay has a strong arm and we need to exploit it.

Should we try to get Assley back? That was his whole game

[Bob's your Information Minister]

He's as good as Rod Smith was 2 years ago.

[Doggcow]

Delhomme made him look spectacular. Look what Steve Smith is without The Homme.

[Doggcow]

Honestly I'm not opposed to Desean Jackson at all. Guy can burn. We need a returner rediculously bad too.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Delhomme made him look spectacular. Look what Steve Smith is without The Homme.

Delhomme is so overrated it's sickening.

[broncosteven]

He is a bum who can't get open anymore. He is a winny little girl like most all receivers. I know Duh Bears have no real passing attack but he was really only a possession guy at best.

Develop hard working young talent. Not over the hill complainers.