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cutlerfan
02-18-2008, 09:21 AM
http://www.sportingnews.com/exclusives/20080217/1006305-p.html

Inside Dish: No rest for Broncos trio
February 17, 2008

Dennis Dillon

In an effort to build chemistry for next season, Broncos QB Jay Cutler, WR Brandon Marshall and TE Tony Scheffler have worked out together in Atlanta since mid-January. They are focusing on speed, strength and position-specific drills at Chip Smith's Competitive Edge Sports athletic performance center. They also are running pass plays. The three players plan to stay in Atlanta until they have to report to Denver for the team's offseason program, which starts March 24. . . .

brncs_fan
02-18-2008, 09:27 AM
http://www.sportingnews.com/exclusives/20080217/1006305-p.html

Inside Dish: No rest for Broncos trio
February 17, 2008

Dennis Dillon

In an effort to build chemistry for next season, Broncos QB Jay Cutler, WR Brandon Marshall and TE Tony Scheffler have worked out together in Atlanta since mid-January. They are focusing on speed, strength and position-specific drills at Chip Smith's Competitive Edge Sports athletic performance center. They also are running pass plays. The three players plan to stay in Atlanta until they have to report to Denver for the team's offseason program, which starts March 24. . . .

***Goosebumps***

I have absolutely no doubt that we have a super trio which can take our offense to the next level.

Now get Jay a good LT and RT so he can have the time to throw it.

Hogan11
02-18-2008, 09:35 AM
***Goosebumps***

I have absolutely no doubt that we have a super trio which can take our offense to the next level.

Now get Jay a good LT and RT so he can have the time to throw it.

That's just it. Yeah, this Atlanta thing is all very well and good but unless the team gets O-Line help....well, I'm going to remain reserved about it till we see what the draft brings.

oubronco
02-18-2008, 09:40 AM
is there such a thing as burnout ?

montrose
02-18-2008, 09:59 AM
is there such a thing as burnout ?

They're defiantly can be, but if they're working out at a performance institute, they should be under very good guidance. Seeing that once the offseason program starts, they won't be doing as many football drills until OTA's, it's good that Jay is keeping his arm active and BMarsh and Tony are running routes. Long stretches without doing football activities and then going into it full go isn't ideal. If I remember correctly, Jay actually got some tendinitis in his throwing wrist last year at the beginning of camp.

brncs_fan
02-18-2008, 10:10 AM
I'm going to remain reserved about it till we see what the draft brings.

OT Ryan Clady, Boise State :pray:

cmhargrove
02-18-2008, 10:21 AM
***Goosebumps***

I have absolutely no doubt that we have a super trio which can take our offense to the next level.

Now get Jay a good LT and RT so he can have the time to throw it.

I have no doubt that one of our starting O-Tackles is already on the roster. Either Pears or Harris will be a starter on day one (at RT or LT). For better or worse, they are both on our roster and I don't think the coaches intend to sit them both.

I want a new LT more than anything, and I see Pears and Harris fighting it out for RT. But, in all honesty, I wouldn't be surprised if our staff already has Pears at LT and Harris at RT. We'll see how day one of the draft goes before we know anything.

lex
02-18-2008, 10:26 AM
I have no doubt that one of our starting O-Tackles is already on the roster. Either Pears or Harris will be a starter on day one (at RT or LT). For better or worse, they are both on our roster and I don't think the coaches intend to sit them both.

I want a new LT more than anything, and I see Pears and Harris fighting it out for RT. But, in all honesty, I wouldn't be surprised if our staff already has Pears at LT and Harris at RT. We'll see how day one of the draft goes before we know anything.

Why would Harris and Pears be at RT? Both are finesse.

dbfan4life
02-18-2008, 10:38 AM
They're defiantly can be, but if they're working out at a performance institute, they should be under very good guidance. Seeing that once the offseason program starts, they won't be doing as many football drills until OTA's, it's good that Jay is keeping his arm active and BMarsh and Tony are running routes. Long stretches without doing football activities and then going into it full go isn't ideal. If I remember correctly, Jay actually got some tendinitis in his throwing wrist last year at the beginning of camp.

Marshall said in an interview recently that they were not doing a lot of football stuff. Mainly weights, running, stuff like that. I'm sure they'll be running some routes, and passing drills too.

montrose
02-18-2008, 10:51 AM
Marshall said in an interview recently that they were not doing a lot of football stuff. Mainly weights, running, stuff like that. I'm sure they'll be running some routes, and passing drills too.

That sounds good. I'm sure their institute has them all on good workouts before they get to Dove Valley.

brncs_fan
02-18-2008, 11:05 AM
We'll see how day one of the draft goes before we know anything.

I am more worried about KC or STL trading down to just above us and selecting Clady than I am worried about dealing with the abundance of Tackles.

oubronco
02-18-2008, 11:14 AM
I have no doubt that one of our starting O-Tackles is already on the roster. Either Pears or Harris will be a starter on day one (at RT or LT). For better or worse, they are both on our roster and I don't think the coaches intend to sit them both.

I want a new LT more than anything, and I see Pears and Harris fighting it out for RT. But, in all honesty, I wouldn't be surprised if our staff already has Pears at LT and Harris at RT. We'll see how day one of the draft goes before we know anything.

i believe you are right even if they draft a LT shanny doesn't like to start rookies

Inkana7
02-18-2008, 11:19 AM
i believe you are right even if they draft a LT shanny doesn't like to start rookies

If our draftee is better than everyone else, I guarentee you he starts him..

cmhargrove
02-18-2008, 12:35 PM
Why would Harris and Pears be at RT? Both are finesse.

Point well taken. It just seems like if we take a high round draft pick, it should be for the most difficult position (just my opinion). I just see a round 1 or 2 pick being a true LT.

If we don't get an OT in round 1 or 2, I think you are right (about the right side). It worries me a little that Harris is such an unknown quantity, and Pears has been the most harmful person for Cutler's health. I keep reminding myself that Pears was better at LT than RT, but he was also the starter during the debacle at San Fran at the end of 2006. Play like that will keep Cutler from reaching his potential (and might get him another couple concussions). I know the coaches like Pears, but i'm not sold on him as the long term solution at either side. Harris will have to have a good training camp to show us what he's got.

backup qb
02-18-2008, 01:37 PM
Point well taken. It just seems like if we take a high round draft pick, it should be for the most difficult position (just my opinion). I just see a round 1 or 2 pick being a true LT.

If we don't get an OT in round 1 or 2, I think you are right (about the right side). It worries me a little that Harris is such an unknown quantity, and Pears has been the most harmful person for Cutler's health. I keep reminding myself that Pears was better at LT than RT, but he was also the starter during the debacle at San Fran at the end of 2006. Play like that will keep Cutler from reaching his potential (and might get him another couple concussions). I know the coaches like Pears, but i'm not sold on him as the long term solution at either side. Harris will have to have a good training camp to show us what he's got.

If memory serves correctly, Foster was the one getting Cutler killed that day. I know Foster's man was responsible for the hit that knocked Jay out of the game.

CBF1
02-18-2008, 01:43 PM
http://www.sportingnews.com/exclusives/20080217/1006305-p.html

Inside Dish: No rest for Broncos trio
February 17, 2008

Dennis Dillon

In an effort to build chemistry for next season, Broncos QB Jay Cutler, WR Brandon Marshall and TE Tony Scheffler have worked out together in Atlanta since mid-January. They are focusing on speed, strength and position-specific drills at Chip Smith's Competitive Edge Sports athletic performance center. They also are running pass plays. The three players plan to stay in Atlanta until they have to report to Denver for the team's offseason program, which starts March 24. . . .

Hope this is not a Southern version of Balco. :thumbsup:

Kaylore
02-18-2008, 01:51 PM
They're going to be awesome. I like that Marshall is with the more level-headed Cutler and Scheffler this whole offseason so they can keep him from being a dumb ass, too.

theAPAOps5
02-18-2008, 01:56 PM
is there such a thing as burnout ?

Yes there is burnout. But I contend in every elite athlete like those in all professional sports there is a competitive gene that trumps the burnout gene. The truly gifted players have this mental gift as well.

Bill Walsh is a perfect example. He taped every coaches, players, management meetings he ever had. He would watch these and pass them on to new apprentice coaches to watch regularly. The man left a mark on football that makes up a lot of the NFL today. Some say he might have burnt out by leaving coaching early but he didn't leave football.

cutthemdown
02-18-2008, 02:38 PM
is there such a thing as burnout ?

Probably not for young players like them. At this point they are so young, hungry , and pumped 2-3 months of working out goes by in a flash.

-Slap-
02-18-2008, 03:03 PM
Why would Harris and Pears be at RT? Both are finesse.

Yeah, that would break our tradition of huge mauling right tackles.

chrisp
02-18-2008, 05:45 PM
If we do take a Left Tackle high in the draft (and god I'm praying that we do...) then Harris and Pears will still get a shot at the LT slot for this year, because its unlikely (but not unheard of) for a rookie to start there.

They'll be wanting the rookie to win the job fair and square next year, and they'll be thinking that even if Harris does end up on the right side, he'll be much the better for having had some experience on the left - as much for the fact that he'd probably be the main backup should anything take the #1 guy out for more than a couple of games.

Of course all this means I see Pears as no more than emergency depth who could fill in at a pinch for a game or two. Outside of that they'd be shuffling the pack in the event of a major injury.

Then again, they may not find that the players they like are there at #12, and my gut feel is that unless they do find a legit prospect in the first couple of rounds, Harris will have the inside track on the job, but that could have more to do with how the draft plays out than how they view Harris right now.

Thing is, there's no such thing as a sure thing, and I can't help but feel that whatever they think of the people they have, they aren't daft enough to put all their eggs in one basket. If they want to make sure they have solid protection for Cutler, they know they have to load up with options and see how they all play out rather than bank on one guy being the real deal, and whatever they think of Harris, he's yet to get any serious game-time as yet.

Sassy
02-18-2008, 05:53 PM
Yes there is burnout. But I contend in every elite athlete like those in all professional sports there is a competitive gene that trumps the burnout gene. The truly gifted players have this mental gift as well.

Bill Walsh is a perfect example. He taped every coaches, players, management meetings he ever had. He would watch these and pass them on to new apprentice coaches to watch regularly. The man left a mark on football that makes up a lot of the NFL today. Some say he might have burnt out by leaving coaching early but he didn't leave football.

See: Rod Smith ;D

chickennob2
02-18-2008, 08:13 PM
Id like to see Chris Williams at 12. He's got the athleticism to play LT, but more than enough power to play RT this year, if Harris turns out to be the real deal.

Broncojef
02-18-2008, 08:21 PM
i believe you are right even if they draft a LT shanny doesn't like to start rookies

Well if Shanahan ever wants to get back to winning the West and going deep into the play-offs he better start looking at some of the nice options in FA or the draft cause Harris/Pears has to be one of the worst pairings in the NFL. I think Clady on the left side would start over either of the other guys from day one. If Shanny and Co weren't thoroughly embarassed enough after last season to change things up we get what we deserve. Worse yet what if Harris continues to have back issues then what do we have besides a franchise QB on his butt all season long. Get the LT and quit playing games.

~Crash~
02-18-2008, 11:08 PM
Id like to see Chris Williams at 12. He's got the athleticism to play LT, but more than enough power to play RT this year, if Harris turns out to be the real deal.

Maybe you need to more reading up on Williams when you say he is strong ....:giggle:

lex
02-18-2008, 11:14 PM
Id like to see Chris Williams at 12. He's got the athleticism to play LT, but more than enough power to play RT this year, if Harris turns out to be the real deal.

I think Nicks might be best suited to play both. I like Williams more but it doesnt really make sense to draft a T at 12 and have him not play his best position to accomodate a 3rd round pick, especially when RT, in theory, is easier to fill.

dsmoot
02-19-2008, 12:20 AM
i believe you are right even if they draft a LT shanny doesn't like to start rookies

Shanahan will start any player who will outperform the guy standing next to him. As for Shanahan, he would LOVE to start a rookie. He just hasn't had too many rookies who came in the league ready to start.