View Full Version : JaMarcus Russell 'Better' Than Jay Cutler?? Puhhhhlllleeeeaaasssee!!
TheSportsGuru
02-14-2008, 09:23 AM
I had to defend Jay, even if it was against a fader fan!!
http://www.milehighreport.com/story/2008/2/14/85954/0781
Raiders Rock
02-14-2008, 09:42 AM
Jamarcus was better on his first pass than Jay after 1.5 seasons...
psst... he threw off the correct foot too :)
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8039/2007120220071203d01sp03da2.jpg
Raiders Rock
02-14-2008, 09:45 AM
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/622/39537116gs0.jpg
TheSportsGuru
02-14-2008, 09:53 AM
So that's your arguement?? Stupid pictures and photoshop overlays?? Another perfect example of why the Raiders are irrelevent.....
Gcver2ver3
02-14-2008, 10:10 AM
the raiders would trade 3 jamarcus russells AND al davis for jay cutler
Smiling Assassin27
02-14-2008, 10:30 AM
al davis' wet dreams are about jay cutler....a kid who can go vuh-tical, who is mobile, and is fearless.
Beantown Bronco
02-14-2008, 10:36 AM
Cutler supplanted a QB who won 75% of his games with Denver.
Russell can't even consistently see the field when the guy ahead of him has lost over 75% of his games with Oakland.
400HZ
02-14-2008, 10:50 AM
Cutler supplanted a QB who won 75% of his games with Denver.
Russell can't even consistently see the field when the guy ahead of him has lost over 75% of his games with Oakland.
I thought good quarterbacking didn't have any correlation to winning. ;D
Anyways, Russell has a stronger arm and therefore FAR more upside. :rofl:
signed,
The Orangemane
Bronco Jamus
02-14-2008, 10:51 AM
Russell probably has a slightly stronger arm. As far has who is better? I don't think that can be answered at this time.
Gcver2ver3
02-14-2008, 10:58 AM
Russell probably has a slightly stronger arm. As far has who is better? I don't think that can be answered at this time.
Well I do...
http://media.dailycamera.com/bdc/content/img/photos/2006/12/17/Broncos_Cardinals_Footb(2)_t600.jpg
Bronco Jamus
02-14-2008, 11:06 AM
Well I do...
http://media.dailycamera.com/bdc/content/img/photos/2006/12/17/Broncos_Cardinals_Footb(2)_t600.jpg
You might be right. However, you are guessing and choosing based on laundry. You have already demostrated on several ocassions that your knowledge of these athletes is questionable.
Flex Gunmetal
02-14-2008, 11:13 AM
I have no problem with the Spicoli comparisons.
Gcver2ver3
02-14-2008, 11:16 AM
You might be right. However, you are guessing and choosing based on laundry. You have already demostrated on several ocassions that your knowledge of these athletes is questionable.
What?
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about...
look nube..let me help you
there's a time to be objective and there's a time to support your guy...
a raider fan running his box ignorantly isn't going to garner informative feedback from me...
i'm just gonna support my guys...which in this case is jay cutler...
picking this point and time to debate with me on this shows you're focused on the wrong things...
you may wanna re-evaluate your allegences...(or not i don't care)
Go Cutler!!
Bronco Jamus
02-14-2008, 11:26 AM
What?
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about...
look nube..let me help you
there's a time to be objective and there's a time to support your guy...
a raider fan running his box ignorantly isn't going to garner informative feedback from me...
i'm just gonna support my guys...which in this case is jay cutler...
picking this point and time to debate with me on this shows you're focused on the wrong things...
you may wanna re-evaluate your allegences...(or not i don't care)
Go Cutler!!
Laughable. I am a season ticket holder. I attend every game every season. Including preseason games that no one wants to go to. As a TV Bronco fan you should understand the difference. Giving an honest answer to the question is what I am about. And the truth is the jury is still out. Even as questionable as your understanding of these athletes seems to be, surely you can understand that you says things as if reaching from a grab bag.
rugbythug
02-14-2008, 11:26 AM
First game to first game Cutler looked much smoother and a better athlete. Cutler looked like a QB, Russell looked stiff and for his size did not show the ability to stay up when hit. When it comes to Arm Strength I see no difference both have stronger arms than will every be needed.
SonOfLe-loLang
02-14-2008, 11:29 AM
Obviously Cutler is further along, Russell has barely played. This is a retarded argument to be having right now.
Flex Gunmetal
02-14-2008, 11:31 AM
Laughable. I am a season ticket holder. I attend every game every season. Including preseason games that no one wants to go to. As a TV Bronco fan you should understand the difference. Giving an honest answer to the question is what I am about. And the truth is the jury is still out. Even as questionable as your understanding of these athletes seems to be, surely you can understand that you says things as if reaching from a grab bag.
You travel to every away game?
Ah, to be unemployed...
BTW, it's lame to discount fans because they can't make it to games.
"TV fans"? Hilarious! Give me a break.
Bronco Jamus
02-14-2008, 11:34 AM
You travel to every away game?
Ah, to be unemployed...
BTW, it's lame to discount fans because they can't make it to games.
"TV fans"? Hilarious! Give me a break.
The statement started out with season ticket holder. Obviously I was refering to home games. I do not attend every road game. Further more, you can be a bigger fan and be a TV fan, but you still are not there cheering the team on in person standing on a sheet of ice in the shady side of the stadium win or lose. There is a difference.
Gcver2ver3
02-14-2008, 11:42 AM
You travel to every away game?
Ah, to be unemployed...
BTW, it's lame to discount fans because they can't make it to games.
"TV fans"? Hilarious! Give me a break.
Lol...too laughable
Gcver2ver3
02-14-2008, 11:45 AM
Laughable. I am a season ticket holder. I attend every game every season. Including preseason games that no one wants to go to. As a TV Bronco fan you should understand the difference. Giving an honest answer to the question is what I am about. And the truth is the jury is still out. Even as questionable as your understanding of these athletes seems to be, surely you can understand that you says things as if reaching from a grab bag.
lol...well i tried...
but you just don't "get it"...
you're focused on the wrong things...
but thats fine man...do your thing...
i think its pretty funny that you feel you know me well enough to know what i know...
if you care that much...feel free to check my posting history...
i think you'll be a little surprised at what you read...i know just a lil bit more than you give me credit for...
Bronco Jamus
02-14-2008, 11:46 AM
Lol...too laughable
Yeah. If I were you I post to my account directly either.
Bronco Jamus
02-14-2008, 11:47 AM
well i tried...
but you just don't "get it"...
you're focused on the wrong things...
but thats fine man...do your thing...
i think its pretty funny that you feel you know me well enough to know what i know...
if you care that much...feel free to check my posting history...
i think you'll be a little surprised at what you read...
You rattle the sabre for the team (or so you think), but yet you deny a player, John Engelberger, that plays injured half the season and deem him worthless. You are the lowest sort of fan in that regard.
Gcver2ver3
02-14-2008, 11:48 AM
Yeah. If I were you I post to my account directly either.
uhm...you wanna try that one again in english?
Taco John
02-14-2008, 11:48 AM
Interesting... Guy comes in. Sides with Raiders fans on brainless issues... Denigrates people who watch the Broncos on TV... I expect next to find out that Elway couldn't hold Marino's jock.
broncofan7
02-14-2008, 11:50 AM
If this was a fried chicken eating contest maybe I'd take Jmarc....
Gcver2ver3
02-14-2008, 11:50 AM
You rattle the sabre for the team (or so you think), but yet you deny a player, John Engelberger, that plays injured half the season and deem him worthless. You are the lowest sort of fan in that regard.
i debate players amongst fellow broncos fans...
but i defend my guys against trolls...
do you even know what a troll is?
again...it just goes back to you not getting it..
you and i should be on the same side on THIS thread...but instead we go thru all this...
i can only assume its because you're a nube...
Flex Gunmetal
02-14-2008, 11:50 AM
The statement started out with season ticket holder. Obviously I was refering to home games. I do not attend every road game. Further more, you can be a bigger fan and be a TV fan, but you still are not there cheering the team on in person standing on a sheet of ice in the shady side of the stadium win or lose. There is a difference.
Oh, I was under the impression that 'I attend every game every season' meant 'I attend every game every season'.
I'm quite sure most people on this board who are unable to attend games don't suffer from lack of desire, more like inability to do so.
They are fans just the same as you and I.
BTW I'm a CO native and have been going to Bronco games for 15 years (I'm 23).
TheDave
02-14-2008, 11:50 AM
Has JR even played one complete game yet?
Until he gets a couple of games under his belt he hasn't earned the right to be compared to anyone who plays in the NFL.
Gcver2ver3
02-14-2008, 11:52 AM
Interesting... Guy comes in. Sides with Raiders fans on brainless issues... Denigrates people who watch the Broncos on TV... I expect next to find out that Elway couldn't hold Marino's jock.
Tell me about it...
the sad part is he keeps getting angrier at me a fellow bronco the more i tell him he should be WITH me on this issue...
maybe he's a closet raider fan...
TheSportsGuru
02-14-2008, 12:27 PM
Personally I am sick of being "objective". When I first read the article I posted about I was going to blow it off....Pure homerism by a fader fan on a fader site. But I am sick of being apathetic about this rivalry and about other fans/sites blasting the Broncos with no cause or fact to back it up.
As a Broncos fan/blogger I am sick of the complete lack of respect this team garners in any form of media, whether it be rival fan sites or Main Stream Media....
I have declared war on ignorance....
Cutler won more games this season than the entire raider team has in 3 years.... With that said, Russell has to be better :spit:
Flex Gunmetal
02-14-2008, 12:42 PM
Cutler won more games this season than the entire raider team has in 3 years.... With that said, Russell has to be better :spit:
LOL
Bronco Jamus
02-14-2008, 12:43 PM
Interesting... Guy comes in. Sides with Raiders fans on brainless issues... Denigrates people who watch the Broncos on TV... I expect next to find out that Elway couldn't hold Marino's jock.
Exactly how and when did I side with a Raider fan on this issue? Clearly I stated that the jury is still out. The answer to the question cannot be answered at this time. That's all I said. I think you might want to reread my first post.
Bronco Jamus
02-14-2008, 12:46 PM
Oh, I was under the impression that 'I attend every game every season' meant 'I attend every game every season'.
I'm quite sure most people on this board who are unable to attend games don't suffer from lack of desire, more like inability to do so.
They are fans just the same as you and I.
BTW I'm a CO native and have been going to Bronco games for 15 years (I'm 23).
The comment was not directed at you but someone else. It was also clear, or should have been, that I was revering to home games. Either way the point has been made clear.
Bronco Jamus
02-14-2008, 12:49 PM
i debate players amongst fellow broncos fans...
but i defend my guys against trolls...
do you even know what a troll is?
again...it just goes back to you not getting it..
you and i should be on the same side on THIS thread...but instead we go thru all this...
i can only assume its because you're a nube...
We are on the same side of who we follow on the issue of the Bronco, but we do it differently. I am being objective to the topic. Do I think Cutler will perform over the course of his career? I hope so.
Bronco Jamus
02-14-2008, 12:52 PM
Tell me about it...
the sad part is he keeps getting angrier at me a fellow bronco the more i tell him he should be WITH me on this issue...
maybe he's a closet raider fan...
Angry? Hardly. You are welcome in my home to go to a Bronco game if you like. Get your plane and game ticket and you have a free place to stay.
Tom A Hawk
02-14-2008, 12:52 PM
If this was a fried chicken eating contest maybe I'd take Jmarc....
racist comment, racist comment
Jamus, Are you on Decca and Testosterone??? Lay up dude and just say no to roid rage.
Now go get me ice cold Coors light please.
Gcver2ver3
02-14-2008, 12:57 PM
Angry? Hardly. You are welcome in my home to go to a Bronco game if you like. Get your plane and game ticket and you have a free place to stay.
fair enough brother...
now we talkin...
i can't make it though...i live too far away and have too much going on here in tampa bay...
very nice gesture though and i appreciate it if you're being sincere...
BMF Bronco
02-14-2008, 01:08 PM
The comment was not directed at you but someone else. It was also clear, or should have been, that I was revering to home games. Either way the point has been made clear.
So because you live in Denver and have the means available to get season tickets, you're a better fan than I?
Flex Gunmetal
02-14-2008, 01:15 PM
The comment was not directed at you but someone else. It was also clear, or should have been, that I was revering to home games. Either way the point has been made clear.
I know it wasn't directed at me. I still think your attitude is BS.
s0phr0syne
02-14-2008, 01:17 PM
Man, quit just attacking this guy for no reason. He was just defending himself against the insult that he was a "noob" who didn't know anything. If I was this guy, a guy who has gone to all the home games and froze his ass off supporting the Broncos, I'd probably throw it out there in my own defense too.
Paladin
02-14-2008, 01:21 PM
*yawn*
Who cares? Cutler fits Shanahan's system. The outcome will be games won. If they always win more than the Faides, then , who cares?
Specious argument number 9,363 on this Board. But who's counting?....
cutlerfan
02-14-2008, 01:23 PM
You travel to every away game?
Ah, to be unemployed...
BTW, it's lame to discount fans because they can't make it to games.
"TV fans"? Hilarious! Give me a break.
What if they are rich and don't need to work?? Do we have bank accounts beside our username??
Plus comparing Jamarcus to Cutler is just silly. Cutler gets better with each year.
BMF Bronco
02-14-2008, 01:24 PM
Man, quit just attacking this guy for no reason. He was just defending himself against the insult that he was a "noob" who didn't know anything. If I was this guy, a guy who has gone to all the home games and froze his ass off supporting the Broncos, I'd probably throw it out there in my own defense too.
You might be right. However, you are guessing and choosing based on laundry. You have already demostrated on several ocassions that your knowledge of these athletes is questionable.
where is he defending himself, that looks more like an attack to me. Not to mention the piss ant attitude he has express towards others in different threads. before you don your Mother Theresa veil, I suggest you see who you're defending and his prior actions.
Gcver2ver3
02-14-2008, 01:25 PM
where is he defending himself, that looks more like an attack to me. Not to mention the piss ant attitude he has express towards others in different threads. before you don your Mother Theresa veil, I suggest you see who you're defending and his prior actions.
thats ownage right there...
Rep...
broncofan7
02-14-2008, 01:27 PM
racist comment, racist comment
Racist? how? I was simply inferring about his 48 inch waist and lineman'esque body. YOU SIR are the one injecting race into a comment related to food and the advantages that a 280lb QB would have over a235 lb QB.
Gcver2ver3
02-14-2008, 01:28 PM
Man, quit just attacking this guy for no reason. He was just defending himself against the insult that he was a "noob" who didn't know anything. If I was this guy, a guy who has gone to all the home games and froze his ass off supporting the Broncos, I'd probably throw it out there in my own defense too.
BMF is right...
Dude just straight attacked me while i was backing cutler...
with that said...i have no ill will towards the guy, but what he did was pretty uncalled for
~Crash~
02-14-2008, 01:42 PM
Exactly how and when did I side with a Raider fan on this issue? Clearly I stated that the jury is still out. The answer to the question cannot be answered at this time. That's all I said. I think you might want to reread my first post.
That is what I am thinking that they should read you post nothing Bad just being honest ....
You are right about Englebereger but what you mis is he is as good as he will ever be but the problem is the broncos are keeping a player that will never develop into a starter . the guy is marginal and we as a team need way more physical players then him.
Flex Gunmetal
02-14-2008, 01:47 PM
What if they are rich and don't need to work?? Do we have bank accounts beside our username??
Plus comparing Jamarcus to Cutler is just silly. Cutler gets better with each year.
Good for them, doesn't make them more of a fan. No we don't have bank accounts beside our username.
I agree it's silly, mainly because we haven't seen enough of JR.
Bronco Jamus
02-14-2008, 02:37 PM
fair enough brother...
now we talkin...
i can't make it though...i live too far away and have too much going on here in tampa bay...
very nice gesture though and i appreciate it if you're being sincere...
I am sincere.
Bronco Jamus
02-14-2008, 02:37 PM
So because you live in Denver and have the means available to get season tickets, you're a better fan than I?
That's a question only you can answer to yourself.
Bronco Jamus
02-14-2008, 02:39 PM
That is what I am thinking that they should read you post nothing Bad just being honest ....
You are right about Englebereger but what you mis is he is as good as he will ever be but the problem is the broncos are keeping a player that will never develop into a starter . the guy is marginal and we as a team need way more physical players then him.
Indeed. We do need to be more physical upfront. But there is strength is what Engelberger accomplished this season.
Bronco Jamus
02-14-2008, 02:43 PM
where is he defending himself, that looks more like an attack to me. Not to mention the piss ant attitude he has express towards others in different threads. before you don your Mother Theresa veil, I suggest you see who you're defending and his prior actions.
Sir, I am merely expressing my opinion and defending myself and my ideas. If that is to much for you to handle, and it sounds like it is, there are features on the board that allow for you to meet that problem with a degree of success.
Jamus.....
Is that you Garcia ???
BMF Bronco
02-14-2008, 02:55 PM
Sir, I am merely expressing my opinion and defending myself and my ideas. If that is to much for you to handle, and it sounds like it is, there are features on the board that allow for you to meet that problem with a degree of success.
Sir, no, you were making feeble attempts to attack gcver2ver3's analyses on specific players. And I am well aware of the features on the board that allow me to ignore you, but reading your posts is comparable to watching a train wreck, it's going to be ugly and a disaster, but I just can't stop watching it.
Bronco Jamus
02-14-2008, 03:10 PM
Sir, no, you were making feeble attempts to attack gcver2ver3's analyses on specific players. And I am well aware of the features on the board that allow me to ignore you, but reading your posts is comparable to watching a train wreck, it's going to be ugly and a disaster, but I just can't stop watching it.
What analysis? That is what I was getting at with that poster exactly.
Bronco Jamus
02-14-2008, 03:12 PM
Jamus.....
Is that you Garcia ???
No. I am not.
BMF Bronco
02-14-2008, 03:20 PM
What analysis? That is what I was getting at with that poster exactly.
You have already demostrated on several ocassions that your knowledge of these athletes is questionable.
This isn't questioning his knowledge/analyses?
Los Broncos
02-14-2008, 03:26 PM
IMO, Russell hasn't played enough to even say he is better than Jay.
Bronco Jamus
02-14-2008, 03:31 PM
This isn't questioning his knowledge/analyses?
The poster is not giving actual analysis, and when challenged in another thread he ignores the question. You have sort of stuck your foot in something you don't have back ground on.
bfoflcommish
02-14-2008, 03:31 PM
Laughable. I am a season ticket holder. I attend every game every season. Including preseason games that no one wants to go to. As a TV Bronco fan you should understand the difference. Giving an honest answer to the question is what I am about. And the truth is the jury is still out. Even as questionable as your understanding of these athletes seems to be, surely you can understand that you says things as if reaching from a grab bag.
I sit 7 rows from field, have a nice big broncos tat that isn't hidden, is in view 24 hours a day, and had season tickets at the age of 18...does that make me a bigger or better fan than you????
what the hell are you trying to say with this comment? Just because we go to games we know more than someone in another state??? that's a pretty ignorant statement you made right there,
Gcver2ver3
02-14-2008, 03:38 PM
The poster is not giving actual analysis, and when challenged in another thread he ignores the question. You have sort of stuck your foot in something you don't have back ground on.
screw it i'll take the bait...
what question did i ignore?
are you talking about the jarvis moss thread?
i don't recall ignoring questions...
BMF Bronco
02-14-2008, 03:51 PM
The poster is not giving actual analysis, and when challenged in another thread he ignores the question. You have sort of stuck your foot in something you don't have back ground on.
spin away, still doesn't detract from the fact you blatantly went after him on this thread.
azbroncfan
02-14-2008, 03:52 PM
The only real answer. No one knows as of right now. Give them both 5 years of starting and then you can have a legitimate competition. Right now Cutler has played more and Russell should be good since he was #1 pick but is all potential right now.
BMF Bronco
02-14-2008, 03:55 PM
I sit 7 rows from field, have a nice big broncos tat that isn't hidden, is in view 24 hours a day, and had season tickets at the age of 18...does that make me a bigger or better fan than you????
what the hell are you trying to say with this comment? Just because we go to games we know more than someone in another state??? that's a pretty ignorant statement you made right there,
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c334/bmfbuffalo/DSC00008-1.jpg
Nope, we're not fans at all.
Spider
02-14-2008, 03:58 PM
JaMarcus Russell would have to climb a step ladder to kiss Cutlers ass .....
Gcver2ver3
02-14-2008, 04:01 PM
JaMarcus Russell would have to climb a step ladder to kiss Cutlers ass .....
now THATS what this thread should've been about...
TDmvp
02-14-2008, 04:01 PM
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l162/AmericanGirlKJD/raiders_suck1.jpg
Gcver2ver3
02-14-2008, 04:02 PM
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c334/bmfbuffalo/DSC00008-1.jpg
Nope, we're not fans at all.
very nice...
a picture speaks a thousand words...
BMF Bronco
02-14-2008, 04:07 PM
]very nice...
a picture speaks a thousand words...
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c334/bmfbuffalo/avatar.jpg
BMF Personified
Gcver2ver3
02-14-2008, 04:09 PM
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http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c334/bmfbuffalo/avatar.jpg
BMF Personified
lol...is that you dude?
edit: oh i get it now...my bad that is you....PERSONIFIED
BMF Bronco
02-14-2008, 04:11 PM
yup at the AZ game last year
Hijacked thread!!!!!!! woot!
Blueflame
02-14-2008, 04:21 PM
LOL Pezzy's infamous "fisheye lens"....
Inkana7
02-14-2008, 04:30 PM
Russell throws prettier interceptions. I mean, most of Jay's are tipped passes. JaMarcus ROCKETS those puppies.
Bronco Jamus
02-14-2008, 04:39 PM
spin away, still doesn't detract from the fact you blatantly went after him on this thread.
Yeah it does, because there is a small history to this that you do not know about,
Bronx33
02-14-2008, 04:40 PM
Have another cocktail faiderville and for the love of god can we get this thread back on track it has serious potential! heck it even got RR off the porn to post once or twice.
Bronco Jamus
02-14-2008, 04:42 PM
I sit 7 rows from field, have a nice big broncos tat that isn't hidden, is in view 24 hours a day, and had season tickets at the age of 18...does that make me a bigger or better fan than you????
what the hell are you trying to say with this comment? Just because we go to games we know more than someone in another state??? that's a pretty ignorant statement you made right there,
There is nothing ignorant about it. The guy said I should go root for the Raiders, because I pointed out his player analysis is questionable and that there isn't enough evidence to the topic to answer it one way or another. Then I pointed out to him I am at the Stadium every week, whilst he watches from a TV set. As far as you being a bigger or better fan, that is a question you have to answer for yourself.
Inkana7
02-14-2008, 04:43 PM
Just quit, brother. It's much better to just stop and walk away at this point. The Mane can get vicious.
Spider
02-14-2008, 04:45 PM
There is nothing ignorant about it. The guy said I should go root for the Raiders, because I pointed out his palyer analysis is questionable and that there isn't enough evident to the topic to answer it one way or another. Then I pointed out to him I am at the Stadium every week, whilst he watches from a TV set. As far as you being a bigger or better fan, that is a question you have to answer for yourself.
Player analysis ? **** Dr Phil evalutating talent ........ you want ot see who is better ...... Real ****ing simple , take a look at game winning drives .... when the pressure is on who delievers ?
only 4 QB's right now I can list are better then Cutler ........
1. Brady
2. Pay-me -a-ton Manning
3. Farve
4. and this can be debated .Romo
Atwater His Ass
02-14-2008, 04:45 PM
Just quit, brother. It's much better to just stop and walk away at this point. The Mane can get vicious.
Hulk Hogan....is that you?
Bronco Jamus
02-14-2008, 04:45 PM
screw it i'll take the bait...
what question did i ignore?
are you talking about the jarvis moss thread?
i don't recall ignoring questions...
Engelberger. You have repeatedly said he should be cut from the team, but when asked why, you have no answer. That is why what you say about other players is questionable. You cannot sit there with a straight face and say you are a Bronco fan, speak ill of my opinion, meanwhile you beatdown a guy that led the defensive line in tackles and played half a season with a separated shoulder.
Spider
02-14-2008, 04:49 PM
Just like i was sitting at the T/A in Rawlins a month ago , 2 Drivers were talking about how great T.O. and Moss was , well I had enough , told both of them , they didnt know their ass from a hole in the ground ..... Brandon Marshal is better with less baggage ..... deal with it .....
TomServo
02-14-2008, 04:53 PM
JMR has started one nfl game. Cutler has only played one full season. both players played on bad teams. no way to properly evaluate either one right now. but i would still take Cutler and i bet most nfl coaches would too.
remember not every qb can be handed a superteam and still manage to blow the chance like phillip rivers has.
Inkana7
02-14-2008, 05:17 PM
Hulk Hogan....is that you?
:~ohyah!:
http://www.tvsquad.com/images/2005/09/hogan.jpg
Gcver2ver3
02-14-2008, 05:25 PM
Engelberger. You have repeatedly said he should be cut from the team, but when asked why, you have no answer. That is why what you say about other players is questionable. You cannot sit there with a straight face and say you are a Bronco fan, speak ill of my opinion, meanwhile you beatdown a guy that led the defensive line in tackles and played half a season with a separated shoulder.
so because i think engleberger shouldn't be resigned i don't know anything about athletes?
dude thats quite a slippery slope...
and because of that i'm not a bronco fan?
dude what are trippin on?
do me a favor and reread those comments...
i didn't "beat the guy down"...i said he was an effort guy and i prefer he not be resigned but we can't afford to completely overhaul the line in one season...
so is that what you've been dissin me about all this time?
wow...
Punisher
02-14-2008, 07:25 PM
LMAO at all Raiders fans they just need to hop the bang wagon before it leaves.But no hating on Russell hes good but not better than cutler not even.
BroncoBuff
02-14-2008, 07:36 PM
Obviously Cutler is further along, Russell has barely played. This is a retarded argument to be having right now.
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a Winner!
Move along folks ... nothing more to see here .....
Punisher
02-14-2008, 07:39 PM
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a Winner!
Move along folks ... nothing more to see here .....
Im with Buff this is my last post in this thread....But i may look back at it for a quick laugh Ha!
bfoflcommish
02-14-2008, 08:01 PM
There is nothing ignorant about it. The guy said I should go root for the Raiders, because I pointed out his player analysis is questionable and that there isn't enough evidence to the topic to answer it one way or another. Then I pointed out to him I am at the Stadium every week, whilst he watches from a TV set. As far as you being a bigger or better fan, that is a question you have to answer for yourself.
and as we pointed out...that means nothing!
TheSportsGuru
02-14-2008, 08:24 PM
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a Winner!
Move along folks ... nothing more to see here .....
Let me bring this thread back to it's beginning. It was so much the argument about who is better, but where each sits on the QB food chain right now. I was simply calling out a raider fan who, on his raider blog, said that Russell was the best QB taken in the draft since 2004. That was a slap in the face of Cutler. We all know Raider fans secretly wish the walking corpse had picked Cutler....
That said, I wanted to stir the pot a bit. I mean, damn, is it a bad thing to have some healthy football talk during the "re-building" season? I just wanted to start a thread with a little healthy trash talk. Something to get the blood flowing.
Neither has played enough, but that shouldn't stop us from talking about it and having some good ole' fader-hating fun!
Arkansas Bronco
02-14-2008, 08:35 PM
and as we pointed out...that means nothing!
Hell no it doesnt. Calling my fandom in question because I live over 24 hours away and cant make it. Dont take into the fact that I have been a fan for 22 years and yes Im over 30 so you dont think it was since my birth I pay a small fortune every year for sunday ticket and I am in chat every game long time chatters know I will be there. Just because you live there and have the luxury doesnt mean ****. I guess us that have been members here longer are better fans because we used the internet and found info on the broncos (yes this sentance was sarcasm).
TheSportsGuru
02-14-2008, 08:40 PM
Hell no it doesnt. Calling my fandom in question because I live over 24 hours away and cant make it. Dont take into the fact that I have been a fan for 22 years and yes Im over 30 so you dont think it was since my birth I pay a small fortune every year for sunday ticket and I am in chat every game long time chatters know I will be there. Just because you live there and have the luxury doesnt mean ****. I guess us that have been members here longer are better fans because we used the internet and found info on the broncos (yes this sentance was sarcasm).
I'm with ya, Ark....
I mean, I am doing pretty well as a Broncos fan despite living in Northern Ohio...relying on the generosity of guys like BFO when I come to town!!!:thumbs:
Inkana7
02-14-2008, 08:47 PM
Hey TSG, I'm from Ohio too. What city?
TheSportsGuru
02-14-2008, 08:50 PM
Hey TSG, I'm from Ohio too. What city?
Amherst....You?
Inkana7
02-14-2008, 08:52 PM
A little town about 20 minutes outside of Youngstown.
BroncoBuff
02-14-2008, 09:08 PM
We all know Raider fans secretly wish the walking corpse had picked Cutler....
Really? Hmmmmm hmmm... ... let's see: Jay Cutler or Michael Huff? Michael Huff or Jay Cutler?
:~ohyah!:
Spider
02-14-2008, 09:25 PM
Anyone that think Russell can be compared to Cutler is smoking hippie lettuce
Arkansas Bronco
02-14-2008, 09:32 PM
Anyone that think Russell can be compared to Cutler is smoking hippie lettuce
I wish I was young enough and care free to do so man that was a fun time but it had to stop. I guess thats why we know we have a great up and comming great qb.
Spider
02-14-2008, 09:34 PM
I wish I was young enough and care free to do so man that was a fun time but it had to stop. I guess thats why we know we have a great up and comming great qb.
;D i tried hippie lettuce twice in my life ..... first time I ate everything in the house , then went upstairs and offered my dad a hit , that went over well ...second time I got a bad headache ......
Bronco Jamus
02-14-2008, 10:25 PM
and as we pointed out...that means nothing!
A couple of grand per seat means nothing. Yeah okay.
Bronco Jamus
02-14-2008, 10:35 PM
so because i think engleberger shouldn't be resigned i don't know anything about athletes?
dude thats quite a slippery slope...
and because of that i'm not a bronco fan?
dude what are trippin on?
do me a favor and reread those comments...
i didn't "beat the guy down"...i said he was an effort guy and i prefer he not be resigned but we can't afford to completely overhaul the line in one season...
so is that what you've been dissin me about all this time?
wow...
Wow that's impressive...good job Engleberger...i like your toughness...way to lead by example....
now let's cut em....
I am not "dissin" you. You are "dissin" yourself. You analysis of these players is questionable.
Houshyamama
02-14-2008, 11:28 PM
I don't think anyone likes Bronco Jamus.
TheDave
02-15-2008, 01:15 AM
I don't think anyone likes Bronco Jamus.
Garcia keeps trying out new user names... The "Dead Head" name wasn't much more successful.
Raiders Rock
02-15-2008, 08:48 AM
Racist? how? I was simply inferring about his 48 inch waist and lineman'esque body. YOU SIR are the one injecting race into a comment related to food and the advantages that a 280lb QB would have over a235 lb QB.
I expect a Watermelon comment or Yard Jockey comment next from you
PIG
Gcver2ver3
02-15-2008, 09:19 AM
I am not "dissin" you. You are "dissin" yourself. You analysis of these players is questionable.
as you can see i didn't beat him down...
i said i liked his toughness...but i don't want to see him in bronco unis anymore...
you're not that stupid so when you went back to that thread you realized i didn't bash him as bad as you thought i did...
but yet you're still gonna try and argue it to the ground...even after i attempted to make nice...
not to mention you trying to insult my vast knowledge from a very weak argument and microscopic sample size...
you my dear are a putz...
vancejohnson82
02-15-2008, 10:53 AM
wow....just read through this.
honestly, it should have been a one page thread because as of RIGHT NOW, there is no debate that Cutler is far and away a better QB than Russel...and with the way Oakland develops QBs I think Jamarcus Russel will be found on the "for hire" line in around 4 years...or throwing footlongs to David Kircus at Subway
also, I really, really can't stand the obnoxious stance that someone who attends games in person because they are a ticket holder has any more knowledge about the game than a "TV fan." .....i dont know, that just rubbed me the wrong way
Gcver2ver3
02-15-2008, 11:05 AM
wow....just read through this.
honestly, it should have been a one page thread because as of RIGHT NOW, there is no debate that Cutler is far and away a better QB than Russel...and with the way Oakland develops QBs I think Jamarcus Russel will be found on the "for hire" line in around 4 years...or throwing footlongs to David Kircus at Subway
also, I really, really can't stand the obnoxious stance that someone who attends games in person because they are a ticket holder has any more knowledge about the game than a "TV fan." .....i dont know, that just rubbed me the wrong way
same here....
if i didn't live 1,500 miles away I'd be all over getting tickets...
I've been an avid Bronco fan since 1987....and I've never stepped foot in Denver Colorado...
but I haven't missed a game in years and I TIVO every game...
Not to mention my authentic autographed poster of John elway in my office...
I love the Broncos as much as anybody...
even if it is from just watching as a "TV Fan"
DaFace
02-16-2008, 11:17 AM
As a Chief fan who hates both of your teams equally, I'd say that if I'm more afraid of Cutler right now. However, I'm more afriad of what Russel could be in a few years. I don't personally think Cutler will ever be "elite" in this league. For Russel, it just depends on how far he grows. He's certainly got the skills to be pretty scary in the league, but the Raiders don't exactly have a history of grooming elite quarterbacks.
That being said, I'd take either one of them over what we've got right now.
oubronco
02-16-2008, 12:26 PM
how did this fuggin B.S. thread last this long
broncofan7
02-16-2008, 01:36 PM
I expect a Watermelon comment or Yard Jockey comment next from you
PIG
thinking and projecting your expectations apparently are not your strong suites...especially if you think Jmarc is better than Cutler....PS--"yard jockey"---what is that?
Spider
02-16-2008, 01:50 PM
yard jockey"---what is that?
pretty bad insult to a trucker .....
Merlin
02-16-2008, 02:17 PM
PS--"yard jockey"---what is that?
A lawn ornament of a black man about 3ft tall, wearing what looks like a jockey outfit, holding a kerosene lamp. Needless to say, it depicts black men in a rather racially insensitive manner
Dagmar
02-16-2008, 03:27 PM
I'm a douche
We missed you during the regular season! Was there a reason you stopped visiting?
Cito Pelon
02-16-2008, 04:56 PM
To think I passed on cleaning up dog **** in the yard to read this thread makes me wonder if I have my priorities straight.