Brady Quinn part of rowdy group outside Columbus bar, witness says

[HEAV]

Cleveland Browns quarterback Brady Quinn was part of a group of men shouting insults at gay passers-by outside a Columbus bar early on New Year's Day, according to a 9-1-1 call made to police.
The call at 2:35 a.m. came from Seth Harris, who reported that he encountered the group in front of La Fogata Grill at 790 North High St. The Mexican restaurant is next door to the Union Cafe Bar + Food, one of Columbus' most popular gay bars in the gay-friendly Short North neighborhood.

On the 9-1-1 call, Harris said that "Brady Quinn from the Browns" was "trying to cause a fight." Harris told the operator, "I just walked outside and he exchanged many profanities with me and called me a ******, of course."

Reached Monday by The Plain Dealer, Harris confirmed that Quinn was the person who used the slur.


"I knew who it was," he said. "It wasn't just directed at me, there were other people around, too."

He said Quinn was with a "big group" of friends numbering perhaps 10, and that the quarterback "wasn't as involved as" others were in stirring up trouble. "He was standing back and letting his friends do most of it," Harris said.

On the call, Harris told police that "this has been going on all night and nobody has stopped anything."

Browns spokesman Bill Bonsiewicz had no comment. On Monday afternoon, Bonsiewicz said Quinn was training "out west" and said he had left messages for the quarterback and his agent, Tom Condon. By Tuesday evening, no response had been received.

Condon did not respond to a pair of e-mails requesting comment on the allegations made against the second-year quarterback from the Columbus area. The messages were sent after Condon's office advised that e-mail was the best way to contact the super-agent.

Quinn served as the Browns backup quarterback throughout 2007 and is a former first-round draft pick hailed as the team's savior at the quarterback position. A star player in college for Notre Dame and at Dublin Coffman High School outside Columbus, Quinn has parlayed his good looks and wholesome image into several lucrative national endorsement contracts.

On the 9-1-1 call, Harris told police that he feared for his safety.

"I'm not going to wait for police because it's going to turn ugly," Harris said. "They are being very violent and I probably should get away."

A Columbus police spokeswoman said officers arrived several minutes after Harris' call and found Quinn in the midst of an argument with 32-year-old Jason Thompson.

"I don't believe there were any punches being thrown -- it was more verbal than anything," said Columbus police spokeswoman Amanda Ford.

"When we got there, he was very cooperative and just stopped," Ford said of Quinn's encounter with police. "I think his friends were like, 'Let's get out of here.' "

However, police arrested Thompson when "he wouldn't back down and turned on officers," Ford said.

Additional police officers were called to help clear the scene, Ford said.

"From what I remember about it, there were so many people milling around in the parking lot that they called for more cars just so they could get things under control," she said.

Police arrested Thompson for disorderly conduct for failing to leave. His attorney, Joe Landusky, said that Thompson pleaded guilty to a minor misdemeanor and was given a suspended fine. Police say in the Thompson arrest report that two separate fights took place. Along with the Thompson fracas, the other confrontation appears to have involved Thompson's friend, Brian Dunfee.

Dunfee reported later to police that he suffered minor injuries to his left knee and right elbow when he was thrown to the ground by a 6-foot white man with brown hair, a police report says. Police labeled the attack on Dunfee as an "anti-male homosexual" hate crime.

La Fogata Grill owner Jeff Rinehart said Quinn's group, which he said included about a dozen people -- half men, half women -- did not cause any problems while drinking inside his restaurant on New Year's Eve.

"The only issue was trying to get everyone's checks figured out," he said.

Landusky, who represents Thompson and Dunfee, said his clients encountered Quinn's group outside La Fogata Grill. Landusky said Dunfee isn't sure who threw him to the ground.

"In all fairness to what the truth is, I don't know if Brady Quinn himself had anything to do with" the injuries, Landusky said. "It might have just been people he was with."

Landusky said Thompson was "trying to protect his friend" when he was arrested.

The head of a Columbus gay and lesbian anti-violence group called the report of Quinn using a slur "very distressing."

"That person is in theory a role model for so many people," said Gloria McCauley, executive director of the Buckeye Region Anti-Violence Organization. "To have one of our well-known people engage in behavior that I consider hateful saddens me. We obviously need to do a lot more education."

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/02/brady_quinn_part_of_rowdy_grou.html

[Arkansas Bronco]

Looks like he is trying to get traded. ;D

[CBF1]

Would have been funny if they guy knocked out Quinn with his purse.

[bfoflcommish]

http://boifromtroy.com/wp-content/grabbybradyquinn.jpg

[CBF1]

Maybe the yelling came from the crowd at the gay bar asking Brady to join them ???

[sirhcyennek81]

The head of a Columbus gay and lesbian anti-violence group called the report of Quinn using a slur "very distressing."


Its a word. I use it. So ****ing what.

:Broncos:

[chickennob2]

I was wondering how long it would take for that picture to be posted. Apparently three posts. Bravo!

[chickennob2]

And does anyone else find the Fogata grill being next to a gay bar a little humorous?

[crush17]

Jesus. Get over it people.

[SouthStndJunkie]

Another funny Quinn pic:

[sirhcyennek81]

Another funny Quinn pic:


hmm...What is how Quinn got to be starter in HS?

:Broncos:

[montrose]

Maybe too much myoplex.

[OABB]

hmm. he tans, waxes, works out religiously, has perfect hair and sits outside of gay bars to hassle homos....

what was it my psych proffessor called this, again?

[brncs_fan]

Its a word. I use it. So ****ing what.

:Broncos:

I'm calling BS on that one. I find that word just as offensive as the "N word" and I am a heterosexual married man.

[sirhcyennek81]

I'm calling BS on that one. I find that word just as offensive as the "N word" and I am a heterosexual married man.

Its a word. A word can't kill anyone on its own.

:Broncos:

[brncs_fan]

Its a word. A word can't kill anyone on its own.

:Broncos:

Calling BS on that one too. Seen too many kids get messed up and take it out on others because of a word.

Words are powerful and the sooner we figure that out the better.

[OABB]

Calling BS on that one too. Seen too many kids get messed up and take it out on others because of a word.

Words are powerful and the sooner we figure that out the better.

i use it all the time. in fact I use it so much that it really has no connection to homosexuals to me anymore.

You see, some people believe that you can take away a words negetive power by not putting too much emphasis on it. While it is true that it can be offensive, and carry negetive connotations, it is nonetheless, a word.

people like you who get overly offended by it, actually make it worse. By refusing to use it, and turning your back against it, you give it power to someone who would use it to hurt someone.

the truth is, ****** is a word, no more no less, and it's power/influence is completley predicated upon how one decides to react to it.

I choose to think it is funny and harmless, until it is purposely directed at someone as an insult, and than at that point, the user of said word is nothing more than just an ass.

[bfoflcommish]

Its a word. A word can't kill anyone on its own.

:Broncos:


hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[brncs_fan]

i use it all the time. in fact I use it so much that it really has no connection to homosexuals to me anymore.

You see, some people believe that you can take away a words negetive power by not putting too much emphasis on it. While it is true that it can be offensive, and carry negetive connotations, it is nonetheless, a word.

people like you who get overly offended by it, actually make it worse. By refusing to use it, and turning your back against it, you give it power to someone who would use it to hurt someone.

the truth is, ****** is a word, no more no less, and it's power/influence is completley predicated upon how one decides to react to it.

I choose to think it is funny and harmless, until it is purposely directed at someone as an insult, and than at that point, the user of said word is nothing more than just an ass.

So if I just use it more, and make it a standard part of my dialect, then it will be ok to use it?

I have had friends of many different races and sexual orientation and socioeconomic stations in life that have been greatly affected by words such as this. Not because of the word themselves, but the general attitude that goes along with them. When you use words that were created to degrade people, then you and subliminally making yourself believe that it is ok to harbor hate and prejudice in your heart. That is not the Christian or the American way.

Your theoretical notion that it is just a word is a solid point. The problem is going to be changing everyone's belief on the matter. Go down to Watts and tell the people living there that ni**er is just a word or that a noose is just a piece of rope. It doesn't work that way. And it is situations such as this one with Brady Quinn that ensure that words and many other things will have meaning far beyond what any of us would like them to have.

[Orange_Beard]

Broke Back Brady.

He was screaming "I can't quit you........................"

[Beantown Bronco]

I always found it a little odd that one man can call another man a f*g in public, and as long as the man receiving the insult is straight, there are no problems. However, if the man receiving the insult is actually gay (whether known or not known by the person doing the insulting), then that person could be tried for committing a hate crime.

[Beantown Bronco]

Broke Back Brady.

He was screaming "I can't quit you........................"

Actually, this whole thing was a misunderstanding. I heard that he was just yelling at them because he was angry that none of the guys were buying his jersey. He has his sites set on cracking the top 10 in sales, you know.

[OABB]

So if I just use it more, and make it a standard part of my dialect, then it will be ok to use it?

I have had friends of many different races and sexual orientation and socioeconomic stations in life that have been greatly affected by words such as this. Not because of the word themselves, but the general attitude that goes along with them. When you use words that were created to degrade people, then you and subliminally making yourself believe that it is ok to harbor hate and prejudice in your heart. That is not the Christian or the American way.

Your theoretical notion that it is just a word is a solid point. The problem is going to be changing everyone's belief on the matter. Go down to Watts and tell the people living there that ni**er is just a word or that a noose is just a piece of rope. It doesn't work that way. And it is situations such as this one with Brady Quinn that ensure that words and many other things will have meaning far beyond what any of us would like them to have.

no. of course you shouldn't use it more, what I amsaying is you shouldn't ignore it. two completley different things.

And ****er is just a word. it is actually poor dialect from the spanish word negro wich means black. It is a word that is derived from whites with poor educations and severe problems.

noose, however is an actual item that was used to kill african americans. you see if you went to an african american and asked them what bothers them more, being called a ****er or being hung and dragged to death, I am pretty sure that being killed would be more offensive to them than the word.

I am sick of this argument anyway. I will use ****** or ****er when ever I want. It is my right as a man and as an american to speak the way I see fit. I have never used either words to upset or offend. I will never curb a homosexual or kill an african american.

I will never judge by race or orientation. I only care about the content of one's character. as MLK said, men should only be judged this way. so who you are is more important than what someone thinks you are.

Richard Pryor is still the greatest comedian of our time and this was his beleif as well. In fact, it was his use of ****er that opened my eyes to it's negetive power, and the fact that a word is ultimatley meaningless.

it is your reaction that gives something it's power.

make no mistake, I think our history is shamefull, but ultimatly human. We are creatures that fear someone different than us. It is tribal mentality and how we have survived through many millenia, but today a man's inner character should be all that we judge him by.

and this concludes my kike ramblings.

[alkemical]

I always found it a little odd that one man can call another man a f*g in public, and as long as the man receiving the insult is straight, there are no problems. However, if the man receiving the insult is actually gay (whether known or not known by the person doing the insulting), then that person could be tried for committing a hate crime.

Hmm, when you write it out like that, lets see if I can re-write and see if the situation works:

I always found it a little odd that one man can call another man [Nword] in public, and as long as the man receiving the insult is black, there are no problems. However, if the man receiving the insult is actually black (and the person insulting is NOT black), then that person could be tried for committing a hate crime.

[brncs_fan]

I am sick of this argument anyway. I will use ****** or ****er when ever I want. It is my right as a man and as an american to speak the way I see fit. I have never used either words to upset or offend. I will never curb a homosexual or kill an african american.


If you were a man you would have the wherewithal to not use it.

Also, in America, freedom of speech is not absolute. Your freedom of speech ends where my personal security begins (can't scream FIRE in a crowded theater and all that).

Agree to disagree I guess.

[sirhcyennek81]

Calling BS on that one too. Seen too many kids get messed up and take it out on others because of a word.

Words are powerful and the sooner we figure that out the better.


So the word F***** by itself chained mathew sheppard to a tree? Word N***** lynched blacks? People do these things, a word is a word.

:Broncos:

[OABB]

If you were a man you would have the wherewithal to not use it.

Also, in America, freedom of speech is not absolute. Your freedom of speech ends where my personal security begins (can't scream FIRE in a crowded theater and all that).

Agree to disagree I guess.

agreed.

[brncs_fan]

So the word ****** by itself chained mathew sheppard to a tree? Word N***** lynched blacks? People do these things, a word is a word.

:Broncos:

That is like comparing apples to oranges don't you think? I already explained this once (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=1883185#post1883185), but I will try again.

Words such as the F word and the N word have taken on more of a meaning that make them more than just a word. They have become tools that people use to hurt and degrade other people. They teach our kids hate and segregation. They get people off the issue at hand and focused on trying to defend a word by saying that it has no meaning.

The facts are that Quinn went to a popular area for homosexuals and thought it would be funny to go outside and scream abscinities at other people (beware people with small brains in large number). He used that word as a tool. It was a tool for the purpose of striking at the hearts, minds, and emotions of those people which just happened to be passing by during that time.

I will agree with most that the world has gotten entirely too PC. There are certain things though that should remain labeled as indecent and hateful.

[sirhcyennek81]

That is like comparing apples to oranges don't you think? I already explained this once (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=1883185#post1883185), but I will try again.

Words such as the F word and the N word have taken on more of a meaning that make them more than just a word. They have become tools that people use to hurt and degrade other people. They teach our kids hate and segregation. They get people off the issue at hand and focused on trying to defend a word by saying that it has no meaning.

The facts are that Quinn went to a popular area for homosexuals and thought it would be funny to go outside and scream abscinities at other people (beware people with small brains in large number). He used that word as a tool. It was a tool for the purpose of striking at the hearts, minds, and emotions of those people which just happened to be passing by during that time.

I will agree with most that the world has gotten entirely too PC. There are certain things though that should remain labeled as indecent and hateful.


I wont deny anyone the "right" to be an ass hat. I dont care if someone calls me a fag. I really dont, to me its just a word, and usually a reflection of the person using it's insecurity. A word is a word to me at the end of the day.

:Broncos:

[brncs_fan]

I wont deny anyone the "right" to be an ass hat. I dont care if someone calls me a fag. I really dont, to me its just a word, and usually a reflection of the person using it's insecurity. A word is a word to me at the end of the day.

:Broncos:

If you don't mind someone calling you that, it is probably because you are not homosexual. Kind of like white people not understanding why black people can't get over the N word.

The reason that the word has meaning is because people like Quinn have nothing better to do than to "be an ass hat" even though he does not have the right to do so.

This isn't the same as calling someone fat or calling someone ugly. There is a lot more meaning associated with this word.

[sirhcyennek81]

If you don't mind someone calling you that, it is probably because you are not homosexual. Kind of like white people not understanding why black people can't get over the N word.

The reason that the word has meaning is because people like Quinn have nothing better to do than to "be an ass hat" even though he does not have the right to do so.

This isn't the same as calling someone fat or calling someone ugly. There is a lot more meaning associated with this word.

I'm gay. Doesnt bother me. Things have become to PC and retarded. Its not Ni**er, its black. Its not black, its african american...its a stupid train of thought heading right for a solid concrete wall.


:Broncos:

[Los Broncos]

Roid rage

[Beantown Bronco]

Its not Ni**er, its black. Its not black, its african american...its a stupid train of thought heading right for a solid concrete wall.

The one that always got me scratching my head was "colored". Technically, black is the absence of all color, so when someone calls a black person "colored" it really does show a lack of education, among other things.

[alkemical]

The words you use, colour the reality you interpret. Change the words you use, and see how things change.

[Paladin]

Its a word. A word can't kill anyone on its own.

:Broncos:

Except: "FIRE".

[bronco militia]

http://www.dlisted.com/files/images/naskelis2.preview.jpg

Nas and his lady, Kelis, were at the Grammys last night wearing the title of his next album

http://www.dlisted.com/files/images/naskelis4.preview.jpg

[alkemical]

damn, that's tight yo

[Beantown Bronco]

I find it quite fitting that, in a thread about Brady Quinn and his friends, someone posts a pick of NAS wearing a hat that says "Queens".

[bronco militia]

it's "art", yo

[-Slap-]

Derrick Anderson is just better. That's what's going to be relevant about Brady Quinn soon enough.

[oubronco]

Roid rage

exactly

[SouthStndJunkie]

Derrick Anderson is just better. That's what's going to be relevant about Brady Quinn soon enough.

I am not sure about that. DA certainly looked good at times last year, but I think he was the product of a greatly enhanced offensive line, multiple weapons, an actual running game in Cleveland, and the great coaching of offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski (who I think will be a great head coach some day). Derek Anderson's play trailed off at the end of the year as well. (Last 7 games....only 9TDs and 10 INTs). His awful performance in Cinci in Week 16 cost them a playoff spot. Time will tell if the book has been written on him by DCs around the league, or maybe he just slumped.

You put Jay Cutler in that offense and give him that much time to throw, and he would have been incredible.

I was not all that high on Brady Quinn coming into the draft last year, but I think his style of play fits in well with the Brown's offensive scheme. I think he is going to end up taking over for DA midway through the year and will do well.

Just my opinion.

[chawknz]

You're free to use the word, but you're also free to be an ignorant bigot.

[OABB]

You're free to use the word, but you're also free to be an ignorant bigot.

well said.
this debate is so retarded, full of mental midgets who were gypped of common sense at birth. I mean come on, did your parents jew you down a chromosone people! It's like our logic is on colored people's time and takes for ever to come around. I mean come on!
let's go redskins!

[HEAV]

However you look at this, Brady Quinn comes off extremely immature in this story. With everything that has happen to pro athletes over the past two years. Putting himself into this situation is just stupid. He is acting as if he’s a freshman at Notre Dame and not a professional representing the Cleveland Browns.

[bowtown]

no. of course you shouldn't use it more, what I amsaying is you shouldn't ignore it. two completley different things.

And ****er is just a word. it is actually poor dialect from the spanish word negro wich means black. It is a word that is derived from whites with poor educations and severe problems.

noose, however is an actual item that was used to kill african americans. you see if you went to an african american and asked them what bothers them more, being called a ****er or being hung and dragged to death, I am pretty sure that being killed would be more offensive to them than the word..

But that word is directly tied and was used by the people who were using the nooses and doing the dragging. It is a word with hateful implications tied to it and, whether you imply hatred with it is irrelevant, in fact to use it off-handledly whenever you want is to completely ignore the history behind it, and in so doing, completely ignore and lessen the history that goes into being an African American in this country. That, in essence, is like sticking a huge middle finger up at them and is extremely racist.

See, it doesn't matter what you intend when you use the word, it is either hateful and racist or ignorant and racist... as long as you don't mind falling into one of those categories, then by all means.


I am sick of this argument anyway. I will use ****** or ****er when ever I want. It is my right as a man and as an american to speak the way I see fit. I have never used either words to upset or offend. I will never curb a homosexual or kill an african american..

Just because it is your right, it doesn't mean you should do it. There is a difference between mores and morals. Do you always live your life by what the law tells you to do? Somethings supercede that. That's where moral character and the social code comes into the equation. I will never hit a woman. That doesn't mean it should be socially acceptable for me to walk around call them all c*^nts.

I will never judge by race or orientation. I only care about the content of one's character. as MLK said, men should only be judged this way. so who you are is more important than what someone thinks you are..

Right, so how hard is it to speak that way?

make no mistake, I think our history is shamefull, but ultimatly human. We are creatures that fear someone different than us. It is tribal mentality and how we have survived through many millenia, but today a man's inner character should be all that we judge him by.

And if a man's inner character is what you should judge him by, then why begin by using name that has the potential to be so hurtful? For a guy that preaches such open mindedness and love, it seems ironic to me that you would then turn around and totally disregard the notion that people, who come from a different background and history than you, might be offended by a name tied to hatred, demoralization, and death. In fact you choose to not only disregard it, but you go a step further, and call it meaningless, and announce proudly that somehow it is a rite that you have as an American to step on somethng that you have never had to experience yourself. That takes a big man. Congrats.

[OABB]

But that word is directly tied and was used by the people who were using the nooses and doing the dragging. It is a word with hateful implications tied to it and, whether you imply hatred with it is irrelevant, in fact to use it off-handledly whenever you want is to completely ignore the history behind it, and in so doing, completely ignore and lessen the history that goes into being an African American in this country. That, in essence, is like sticking a huge middle finger up at them and is extremely racist.

See, it doesn't matter what you intend when you use the word, it is either hateful and racist or ignorant and racist... as long as you don't mind falling into one of those categories, then by all means.




Just because it is your right, it doesn't mean you should do it. There is a difference between mores and morals. Do you always live your life by what the law tells you to do? Somethings supercede that. That's where moral character and the social code comes into the equation. I will never hit a woman. That doesn't mean it should be socially acceptable for me to walk around call them all c*^nts.



Right, so how hard is it to speak that way?



And if a man's inner character is what you should judge him by, then why begin by using name that has the potential to be so hurtful? For a guy that preaches such open mindedness and love, it seems ironic to me that you would then turn around and totally disregard the notion that people, who come from a different background and history than you, might be offended by a name tied to hatred, demoralization, and death. In fact you choose to not only disregard it, but you go a step further, and call it meaningless, and announce proudly that somehow it is a rite that you have as an American to step on somethng that you have never had to experience yourself. That takes a big man. Congrats.

this is the kind of thinking I don't understand. I don't think you get my point. it is not the n-word that is offensive, its binded slavery, segregation, harsh judgement, criminal acts, putting down another man that is offensive. if the actual n-word was a definition of a plate of food, or something entirely different, that word, ****er, would mean nothing. it's the hate, and ill intention behind it.

I do preach brotherly love, and yes I also preach smacking a kid for calling you dude. I know this is hard for some people to understand, but this is how I feel. when something is wrong, it is because someone put themselves above or below another human being.

if you act cavalier, as if you believe you are better than another, you are an azzhole.

being a racist, is doing this, acting as if you are above the law is doing this, it all stems from the same problem. some poeple deep down think they are better than others.

it's not the n word, or dude, its that none of us have the right to do that. I joke around alot, and that probably hurts my case for when i try to get serioius, but I never ever put myself above another. I will joke around and jump on the next guy, but those are just my words, when push comes to shove, you are all my brother's and sisters and I see no difference between any of us.

[sirhcyennek81]

Back to the topic at hand. Brady Quinn is really a pillow biter, and incidences like this will increase the more successful he gets.


:Broncos:

[OABB]

Back to the topic at hand. Brady Quinn is really a pillow biter, and incidences like this will increase the more successful he gets.


:Broncos:

seriously! I completley picture Brady punching a gay guy in front of his friends, and than when they all high five eachother and walk away, Quinn sneaks back and makes out passionatly with the guy he punched and says "If you tell my bros about this, I will find you and kill you....here's my card, call me, tootles!" and than skips back to his friends just in time to grab is crotch and say, "Let's go score some b****es!" and than he turns to shade away a lone tear sliding down his face.

[sirhcyennek81]

seriously! I completley picture Brady punching a gay guy in front of his friends, and than when they all high five eachother and walk away, Quinn sneaks back and makes out passionatly with the guy he punched and says "If you tell my bros about this, I will find you and kill you....here's my card, call me, tootles!" and than skips back to his friends just in time to grab is crotch and say, "Let's go score some b****es!" and than he turns to shade away a lone tear sliding down his face.


LMAO. True. Or he may be the NFL player who comes out while playing. Who knows. Either way he likes it in the ass.


:Broncos:

[BroncoBuff]

And this story is newsworthy because .. ?