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dragondawg
02-09-2008, 09:06 AM
Legends preach patience
Former stars: Better drafts are key
By Lee Rasizer, Rocky Mountain News

Elway. Davis. Sharpe.

They are names etched in Broncos lore; players who helped bring Denver two Super Bowl victories.

And last week in Phoenix, all around town, the three former stars were reminded of those glory days with pictures, shows and interviews about their shared past.

But the week in the desert did something else, too.

It helped shine some light on the heat that surrounds their former team coming off a 7-9 season, the franchise's worst since 1999.

Shannon Sharpe, the former Pro Bowl tight end, described the performance as "hard to watch," given that blue and orange remains in his blood.

And having seen the Broncos performances, while also dissecting those of the two Super Bowl combatants, the New York Giants and New England Patriots, all three local legends agreed it's likely going to take some time before they're standing at a championship site with their former team a participant.

"They've got their work cut out," said Terrell Davis, the former running back who was the Most Valuable Player of Super Bowl XXXII.

The trio's advice for making the Broncos Super once again: Hold your horses.

"They've tried the quick fix, and that hasn't worked. It hasn't worked the last couple years," said Hall of Fame quarterback John Elway, the MVP of Super Bowl XXXIII. "You have to get the core together. There's been some things they've been missing, and they've missed on a couple free agents. To me, they've got to get it through the draft, and they're talking about that. But it's going to take some time."

Make patience pay off

It's one thing to talk about patience, another to practice it.

Knowing coach Mike Shanahan as they all do, none of the group could say with any certainty that their former sideline boss will be able to put his win- now mentality aside for a rebuilding project.

"I don't know," Elway said with a smile. "We'll see what happens. And there's such a fine line. It doesn't take too much."

The Giants, for one, proved that, rebounding from an 0-2 start to win an unprecedented 11 straight road games for an improbable title.

"Looking at it, I think Mike - and I don't want to say he's becoming impatient - but he's been there before," said Davis, now a studio host for the NFL Network. "And I don't know if he has the time to sit back and try to rebuild the team and be patient and see how things pan out. He wants to win now. . . . He's trying to make his team a competitive team now, not a team four or five years down the road."

Quick fixes have happened with regularity lately.

The Carolina Panthers in 2005, New Orleans Saints in '06 and Tampa Bay Buccaneers this past season are examples of teams that, to varying degrees, forged one-year turnarounds.

"You're not going to do it in the AFC East, with New England," Sharpe said. "But every other division is in play."

Yet in Sharpe's view, the Broncos will need to build around their core extensively before that can happen.

Add to building blocks

There are building blocks on the Broncos roster, the trio said.

Elway said Denver can build around quarterback Jay Cutler, while Sharpe labeled top receiver Brandon Marshall "unbelievable." Tight end Tony Scheffler also emerged as a potential playmaker deep into the future.

"They have some weapons offensively," Elway said. "They had some injuries on the offensive line and they'll get those guys back. It's just a matter of defensively staying with something and getting that continuity, because they weren't bad last year or two years ago, they just struggled."

In Sharpe's opinion, Shanahan's coaching acumen still is top-notch and can bring out the talent offensively, but "I just wish they had better players, because if Mike had the players to match his X's and O's . . . "

Sharpe, now a CBS studio analyst, thinks Denver needs to improve in the trenches on offense and get rid of disgruntled receiver Javon Walker to help reach offensive potential.

But Davis and Sharpe, in particular, believe the main problem lies along the front four on defense, which needs an infusion of talent and, most of all, stability.

"They've got to get the defensive line fixed," Davis said. "I don't know what's going on with that carousel. They've got to get four guys and stick with those guys, maybe six strong, but to have an entirely new defensive line every year, there's no continuity there."

One reason for a lack of sameness up front defensively from year to year is all the strikeouts on free-agent defensive linemen the past several years. Since 1997, Denver has drafted only one first-day defensive tackle, which is a particular position of weakness.

"You look at what the Patriots did, that's the gold standard," Sharpe said. "They stocked up on offensive and defensive linemen. You look at Jarvis Green, Vince Wilfork, Richard Seymour. On the offensive line, there's Matt Light, Dan Koppen, (Logan) Mankins. That's their bread and butter."

Be consistent in draft

Denver has had better overall draft success the past two years after its widely panned efforts from 2001 to '04 and its slight bump in '05.

And even with those uneven results, until their 2007 plummet, the Broncos still were able to remain legitimate contenders in the AFC West. In 2005, they finished 13-3 and went to the AFC Championship Game.

But the accumulation of poor personnel moves sapped depth, and injuries, especially last year, finally caught up to the Broncos.

"They have to go through the draft, and don't get so enamored with a guy who can jump high and run fast," Sharpe said. "What has he done in his two, three, four years in college? Has he been consistent? Believe what your eyes tell you. The stopwatch is a good barometer, but teams get so enamored - not the Patriots. They don't get enamored with the guy running a 4.2 or having a 42-inch vertical. And the one thing, above anything else, they might not be flashy, the Patriots, but they are consistent. And that's what you look for in the draft. You don't look for the flyer or (a player who) 'had one year' - it's consistency."

Denver has taken a wide variety of draft picks.

Before joining Denver, Cutler, Scheffler and Marshall had successful careers for college teams that weren't powerhouses.

Young linemen such as Chris Myers, Marcus Thomas and Tim Crowder, who had a great degree of success for college heavyweights, played significantly. Selvin Young and Hamza Abdullah (acquired off waivers) were low-risk gambles that might prove sound.

All are young and all gained experience in 2007 that should prove valuable.

"I think that's how you've got to look at it, that there's upside to what they've got," Davis said.

But there's also more than logging playing time in getting to the point where the team's ready to win a ring.

"They've got to now find out how to take that talent, be mature with it, how to be professional to play in tight games and really try to take it to the next level," Davis said, adding he believes there's a veteran leadership void at many key positions on the Broncos roster.

An uncertain future

The Broncos will be dealing with much uncertainty during the coming months.

With Bob Slowik next season, they will be operating under their fifth defensive coordinator since 2001. John Lynch's future has to be resolved, as does Walker's. Dre Bly's hefty salary-cap number, and finding the right linebacking spot for D.J. Williams, are other priorities. Jason Elam is a free agent. Discovering whether Ryan Harris is ready to play left tackle is an open question.

Then again, Pittsburgh went from a No. 6 seed and the Giants a No. 5 seed to become improbable champions.

So it's possible for Denver to get some more parts, peak at the right time and, who knows, maybe have Elway, Davis and Sharpe talking about their former team live and in person in a Super Bowl city.

"Eventually, I think they will," Davis said of the prospects of a Broncos turnaround in the near future. "I don't think it will be next year. I think they'll improve. But I don't see them as a team that's going to be in the Super Bowl within the next year or two."

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Kaylore
02-09-2008, 12:38 PM
This was a fun read. I read this morning (over my home made pancakes :)) and it's hard to disagree with a lot of what they say. I agree that the turnover on defense is not helping every year. I also agree that they need to lean on the draft. Drafting well hides a lot of stink.

Bronx33
02-09-2008, 12:44 PM
Next seasons motto should be Patience

Bob's your Information Minister
02-09-2008, 12:45 PM
You guys sound like Chiefs fans a few years ago. We're done being patient.

Broncobiv
02-09-2008, 01:25 PM
You guys sound like Chiefs fans a few years ago. We're done being patient.
Right. Now you're just accustomed to the fact that you suck, and have finally accepted it. Good for you.

telluride
02-09-2008, 01:25 PM
We've been patient for ten years.

Bronx33
02-09-2008, 01:35 PM
Right. Now you're just accustomed to the fact that you suck, and have finally accepted it. Good for you.

Bobo is just mad his front office preaches stupidity, Long live CP and his dream!

Cito Pelon
02-09-2008, 03:08 PM
Just what I've been saying for about seven years. I hope ShanaBowlSund buckle this coming draft down. If Moss/Crowder/Thomas improve this year, that's a huge, huge deal. If that happens, then the team only needs OT, LB, S, WR as real big needs in the draft and FA. If they hit on those, then the team can challenge for the Div Title this year and with another good draft in 2009 be set with a good young team for 2009-2012 that can win some gotdang friggin TITLES!!!!!!

I wish the team had more natural draft picks this year. I think they can get another 2nd or 3rd by trading the low picks, we have too many of those. They can also gamble next year's picks if this is a deep draft, next year will have to take care of itself. The team really needs to get 3-4 starters out of this draft, guys that can start this year and be All-Pro in 2009.

The future is fairly bright on O, although I'd really like to see an OC come in that isn't a Shanny guy, someone with fresh ideas. If there's one thing that will hold the O back, it's Shanny's stale O. The guy is way too predictable, he has to have the perfect guys for his system. Granted, the system works like gangbusters when everybody executes perfectly, but in order to win sometimes you have to be flexible, try some new things to keep the D off-balance and score T-gotdang-D's, not FG's. Shanny has about 5 plays he'll run over and over and over thinking a different formation will fool the D. Sorry, that hasn't worked for quite a few years. D's know by now all you have to do is keep Denver under 14 in the first half, get a feel for the 5 plays they'll run over and over and over, and you can shut the O down in the 2nd half.

ST's have to improve this year also. I think they will. Hall I'm impressed with on KO's. Martinez is a solid PR guy, plus just a good all-around football player.

The D has to get more TO's for the team to challenge for any Title at all. That means we'll need better LB and S's, guys that can get TO's and actually make a return out of it instead of looking lost when they get their hands on the ball. Like I've been saying, football players, not just guys that can run fast and jump high.

Well, I could rant some more, but that's enough for now. There was a little something for everybody in that one. Don't worry folks, if that wasn't enough for you, I'll be around.

Merlin
02-09-2008, 08:22 PM
We've been patient for ten years.
That is why 10 yrs ago we won the SB. Then we won again 9 yrs ago. Just 2 yrs ago we went to the AFC championship game and had a chance. In a couple of yrs we will once again be playing in that AFC championship game and...

rovolution
02-09-2008, 08:29 PM
You guys sound like Chiefs fans a few years ago. We're done being patient.

We havent been patient nearly as long as you.

Chorf fans...been patient since 1989 (Long Live King Carl)

~Crash~
02-09-2008, 08:46 PM
Next seasons motto should be Patience

Nope next year Motto should be first guy there makes the Tackle !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:strong:

Bronx33
02-09-2008, 08:48 PM
We havent been patient nearly as long as you.

Chorf fans...been patient since 1989 (Long Live King Carl)


I would used a different word when it concerns cheaps fans.

backup qb
02-10-2008, 09:19 AM
Nope next year Motto should be first guy there makes the Tackle !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:strong:

Amen!!!!!!!!!1

Bronx33
02-10-2008, 02:51 PM
Nope next year Motto should be first guy there makes the Tackle !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:strong:


again patience is the motto.