Ron Paul brings down the house at the Conservative Political Action Conference

[Taco John]

Ron Paul: McCain friends with Feingold, Kennedy

by Mark Silva

After the smoke cleared at the Conservative Political Action Conference – the public withdrawal of Mitt Romney from the Republican presidential race, and the attempt of John McCain to make friends with the party’s staunchest conservatives – a conservative crowd-pleaser stepped forward .

Ron Paul, the Republican representative from Texas.

Paul was playing on the frustrations in this hall, with many voicing worries about McCain, the all-but annointed nominee.

Now the party has an apparent candidate who is a friend of Sen. Russ Feingold – on campaign finance reform – Paul said. And now the party has an apparent candidate who is a friend of Ted Kennedy – on immigration – Paul said.

He raised cheers in the hall – perhaps the first genuine cheers of the day.

“If you think we can lead this country back to conservative principles… you have another thing coming, because it’s not going to happen,’’ Paul said.


“The answer is found in fiscal conservatism – live within our means,’’ he said to cheers in the hall.

“As long as a government can stir up fear, sometimes real and sometimes not real, the people are expected to do one thing, sacrifice their liberty,’’ he said to cheers.

And then there is the war in Iraq, with Paul the only one of several Republican candidates for president this year who took a stance against the war.
.
“McCain says we should stay there for 100 years if necessary – I say there is no need,’’ Paul said to more cheers in the hall.

“We campaigned in 2000 for a humble foreign policy, no policing of the world – and now we are doing the very same thing,’’ Paul said.

But this is where he started to lose his audience: “Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.’’

The Paulites in the hall were happy, but the rest of the crowd was starting to part ways with a Republican who has sharply parted ways with most of the candidates.

Yet, while the Romney folds his tent, the Paul campaign carries on.

Posted by Mark Silva on February 7, 2008 5:00 PM

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/ron_paul_mccain_friends_with_f.html

[spdirty]

You mean he brought down the house when it came to his domestic agenda.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

But this is where he started to lose the BushCo Kool-Aid guzzlers in the audience: “Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.’’

Fixed it. :D

[TDmvp]

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so i'm fair here is some others...

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[Bob]

man, am i getting tired of hearing about the cyber-space canidate...

[Meck77]

Didn't Romney spend $40,000,000 of his own cash? You mean to tell me he's not a nut? Average citizens are funding RP's campaign. Big difference.

[Kaylore]

Ron Paul brought down the house when he used powers to control metallic objects to rip the girders from the superstructure!

http://movies.go.com/i/features/atox/magneto.jpg

http://theithacan.org/blogs/thespectrum/files/2007/10/ron-paul-iowa.jpg

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Magneto! Stop Magneto! Stop Ron Paul!

[TDmvp]

Ron Paul brought down the house when he used powers to control metallic objects to rip the girders from the superstructure!

http://movies.go.com/i/features/atox/magneto.jpg

http://theithacan.org/blogs/thespectrum/files/2007/10/ron-paul-iowa.jpg

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Magneto! Stop Magneto! Stop Ron Paul!

i always see this guy ...

http://www.skooldays.com/images/sa1041.jpg

http://blog.4president.org/2008/WindowsLiveWriter/IMG_0569.jpg

i think it is their mouths !Booya!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Didn't Romney spend $40,000,000 of his own cash? You mean to tell me he's not a nut? Average citizens are funding RP's campaign. Big difference.

This critical distinction seems to be utterly lost on Paul's detractors, doesn't it?

(But then most of his detractors are probably people who are happy with Bush and want more of the same.)

[Old Dude]

Last I saw, the delegate count for the GOP was:

1,191 needed for nomination.

McCain ..... 710
Romney......286 (now available)
Huckabee... 195
Paul........... 14

Not saying it's impossible for Paul to close that gap, but darned near. He'd have to capture a huge percentage of the Romney castaways, and even then he'd be more than 400 behind.

His only possible hope would be in a "brokered" convention (which assumes that McCain would be unable to hit the magic number).

McCain needs 481 delegates.

Most of the remaining states for Republicans are Primaries rather than caucuses and most of those are "winner take all." So, theoretically, if McCain were to come in as the runner up in primary after primary, he could be stopped. But that sort of turn of events would have to happen pretty darned fast.

Coming up:

Washington Caucuses ... 18
Louisiana Primary............20
Kansas Caucuses............36
Virginia Primary ..............63
Maryland.......................37
D.C. .............................19

With a sweep of the "Potomac Primaries" (and assuming a decent performance in the Caucuses) McCain could cut his remaining distance to the nomination by a third by the end of next week. Even if he takes only two out of those three, he'd still be in a very commanding position.

[baja]

man, am i getting tired of hearing about the cyber-space canidate...

Well get a job at 7 & 11 and toss your putter.

[TailgateNut]

IMO he only has three negatives:

1. Most of his supporters aren't old enough to cast a vote.
2. Internet discussions do not nominate a president
3. He's like the guy from Lost in space. His ideas are WAY OUT THERE!

[alkemical]

Yep, his ideas are so far out, that he'd be with weirdos like Ben Franklin and thomas jefferson. Those guys are whacked!

[The Lone Bolt]

But on the bright side, Ron Paul has secured the mini-nukes vote!:thumbs:

[TailgateNut]

Yep, his ideas are so far out, that he'd be with weirdos like Ben Franklin and thomas jefferson. Those guys are whacked!

:spit:

All the other repukes used "good ol RON" as their idol.

But to compare the Chihuahua to Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson is a "way out there" as his ideas.


SHHHHHH.........I think I hear the town crier riding down the street....:spit:

[alkemical]

:spit:

All the other repukes used "good ol RON" as their idol.

But to compare the Chihuahua to Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson is a "way out there" as his ideas.


SHHHHHH.........I think I hear the town crier riding down the street....:spit:



This post, shows that you really have no understanding of the positions Dr. Ron Paul stands for: Dr. Paul wants to return gov't to the operation guidelines set by the U.S. Constitution, that is why i made the alliteration. Your comments show your ignorance on such matters.

[TailgateNut]

This post, shows that you really have no understanding of the positions Dr. Ron Paul stands for: Dr. Paul wants to return gov't to the operation guidelines set by the U.S. Constitution, that is why i made the alliteration. Your comments show your ignorance on such matters.


AAH BS. I know what he "stands for". That's not the issue, the question is how does he propose to pass and enforce legislation to bring about the radical changes he proposes.

It ain't happening bud! It just ain't happening.

Thanks for the "ignorant" comment. I'm so humble to be able to be in the company of geniuses.

[alkemical]

AAH BS. I know what he "stands for". That's not the issue, the question is how does he propose to pass and enforce legislation to bring about the radical changes he proposes.

It ain't happening bud! It just ain't happening.

Thanks for the "ignorant" comment. I'm so humble to be able to be in the company of geniuses.

So then you just admit to using ignorance as a guise for your dislike for someone? Since you want to change the subject, now that I have drawn you out and proved you wrong on how close Dr. Paul is to the Founding Fathers, we can only surmise it's not just an act.

[TailgateNut]

So then you just admit to using ignorance as a guise for your dislike for someone? Since you want to change the subject, now that I have drawn you out and proved you wrong on how close Dr. Paul is to the Founding Fathers, we can only surmise it's not just an act.


Using ignorance as a guise? Not at all. But I do claim to be able to differentiate between wishful thinking and reality based thoughts.

[alkemical]

Using ignorance as a guise? Not at all. But I do claim to be able to differentiate between wishful thinking and reality based thoughts.

All fundamentalists believe that their reality is the prima materia of which all is known.

[baja]

What is sad in all this is the reality that getting back to the Constitution of the United States of America as our guiding authority is a plan that many feel is undoable, That's how far we have drifted away from our founding principals.

[Hotrod]

I think Ron should be applauded for atleast making people stop and think. On the other hand he is simply not a factor in the current presidential race. He should prolly stop wasting his "base's" time and let them get back to playing their video games and watching seseme steet.


Sorry I just had to do it Ha!

[alkemical]

What is sad in all this is the reality that getting back to the Constitution of the United States of America as our guiding authority is a plan that many feel is undoable, That's how far we have drifted away from our founding principals.

No way! Baja muy es loco! :)

[alkemical]

I think Ron should be applauded for atleast making people stop and think. On the other hand he is simply not a factor in the current presidential race. He should prolly stop wasting his "base's" time and let them get back to playing their video games and watching seseme steet.


Sorry I just had to do it Ha!


Just because your mom says you're cool, doesn't mean you are. ;)

[Hotrod]

What is sad in all this is the reality that getting back to the Constitution of the United States of America as our guiding authority is a plan that many feel is undoable, That's how far we have drifted away from our founding principals.

If Ron was elected nothing would get done. He would get almost zero support from either side of the aisle. He would right or wrong be the first dead duck president in his first year in office.

[Hotrod]

wait is is dead duck or lame duck???

Ha!

[alkemical]

If Ron was elected nothing would get done. He would get almost zero support from either side of the aisle. He would right or wrong be the first dead duck president in his first year in office.

Hmmmm, well i'd rather have that - then another coke head in office (obama & bush)... NEVER, EEEEEEVER trust a coke head.

[Hotrod]

Just because your mom says you're cool, doesn't mean you are. ;)

Are you saying my mother lied to me :)

[Hotrod]

Hmmmm, well i'd rather have that - then another coke head in office (obama & bush)... NEVER, EEEEEEVER trust a coke head.

I agree with that. The problem is IMO all the current options suck.

[alkemical]

wait is is dead duck or lame duck???

Ha!

Quaaaack!

[alkemical]

Are you saying my mother lied to me :)

Hey, not at all - but do you have that money your mom owes me for hanging out with you? ;)

[Hotrod]

Hey, not at all - but do you have that money your mom owes me for hanging out with you? ;)

LOL

Well on the bright side she cared enough about me to buy me a friend :)

The real Ron Paul question IMO is this. Will the "movement" ever pick up enough steam/canidates to be an actual factor in future elections. If you get someone like RP into office hes worthless unless you get like minded people into congress.

[baja]

If Ron was elected nothing would get done. He would get almost zero support from either side of the aisle. He would right or wrong be the first dead duck president in his first year in office.

Yes and what I'm saying is that is a very sad state of affairs because what Paul is advocating is what we need to do to save this country as we know it.

A few more cycles of business as usual and we will be a second rate has been.

[alkemical]

I agree with that. The problem is IMO all the current options suck.

That's why i'm voting for Chutulu.

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/art/cthulhu02.jpg

[alkemical]

LOL

Well on the bright side she cared enough about me to buy me a friend :)

The real Ron Paul question IMO is this. Will the "movement" ever pick up enough steam/canidates to be an actual factor in future elections. If you get someone like RP into office hes worthless unless you get like minded people into congress.

It failed when it was called a movement, movements stop.

[TheDave]

I think Ron should be applauded for atleast making people stop and think. On the other hand he is simply not a factor in the current presidential race. He should prolly stop wasting his "base's" time and let them get back to playing their video games and watching seseme steet.


Sorry I just had to do it Ha!

There is sooo much truth behind that statement....

[baja]

Not true.

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2008/01/ron-paul-apostles-libertarian-theology.h

[TheDave]

Not true.

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2008/01/ron-paul-apostles-libertarian-theology.h

linky no worky...

[TailgateNut]

Yes and what I'm saying is that is a very sad state of affairs because what Paul is advocating is what we need to do to save this country as we know it.

A few more cycles of business as usual and we will be a second rate has been.


Let's bring back flint locks and salt pork.


down to earth: how can he SAVE THE COUNTRY if he doesn't have any backing? Does he intend to be a dictator? Will congress just bow to his whim?
Will the house vote unianimously for withdrawal of all the troop across the globe? Will the IRS just close its' doors because Ron tells them it's time to shut down? Will the illegals gather a the bus station and migrate south the day he becomes president? Will the other countries across the globe welcome his trade IDEAS with applause?
I know you all have these grandiose ideas, but HOW THE HELL do you go from concept to production?
How does someone who has, on avg. 3-7% backing, convince the other 93-97% that they should follow his lead?

I'm all ears!

[baja]

uh.... That's why I said it's a "A sad state of affairs."

[baja]

linky no worky...

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2008/01/ron-paul-apostles-libertarian-theology.html

[TailgateNut]

uh.... That's why I said it's a "A sad state of affairs."

...in response to ?

[baja]

...in response to ?

To you saying over and over Paul's goals are unattainable.

Let me let you in on a little secret, I know that! That's why it's a sad state of affairs

[Maximus]

Hmmmm, well i'd rather have that - then another coke head in office (obama & bush)... NEVER, EEEEEEVER trust a coke head.

There is a massive difference in type of cokeheads... On one hand you have a cokehead that was president of the prestigious Harvard Law Review... on the other hand you have a "C" average cokehead that got into college on a favor from papa...

Seems like the president of the prestigious Harvard Law Review... may have a few more brain cells available after abuse...

It's unfortunate that Ron Paul suffers from Ross Perot affliction.

[TailgateNut]

To you saying over and over Paul's goals are unattainable.

Let me let you in on a little secret, I know that! That's why it's a sad state of affairs


They are not totally unatainable, but his radical approach will not be "swallowed" as served. He cut his own campaigns' throat. Call him Dr. No it ain't happening. I told Taco when he first started to beat Pauls' drum, and the reason hasn't changed. Hence the Chihuahua moniker (lot's o bark, but very little bite, and he's all wet.)

[alkemical]

There is a massive difference in type of cokeheads... On one hand you have a cokehead that was president of the prestigious Harvard Law Review... on the other hand you have a "C" average cokehead that got into college on a favor from papa...

Seems like the president of the prestigious Harvard Law Review... may have a few more brain cells available after abuse...

It's unfortunate that Ron Paul suffers from Ross Perot affliction.


You must not have had much in dealing with cokeheads. They will always steal from ya.

[Meck77]

What's interesting to me is there are plenty of RP supporters on this site yet we have people telling us that he doesn't matter and that he doesn't have any support. Funny I spoke to several senators and house reps at the capital earlier this week who also support RP.

Regardless of what happens in this election there is a growing population of this country ready for real change. It may take another 4 years. Well that is if our dollar doesn't collapse in the meantime. A big change may just be forced upon us.

[Bronco Bob]

What's interesting to me is there are plenty of RP supporters on this site yet we have people telling us that he doesn't matter and that he doesn't have any support.


That's about the only place Ron Paul has a lot of support. The Internet.
He's the cyber candidate. Meanwhile out in open primaries he get
between 2% to 6% of the vote while other candidates haul in 30% to 50%
of the vote.


Funny I spoke to several senators and house reps at the capital earlier this week who also support RP.


Such as? Can you name some names?

[TailgateNut]

What's interesting to me is there are plenty of RP supporters on this site yet we have people telling us that he doesn't matter and that he doesn't have any support. Funny I spoke to several senators and house reps at the capital earlier this week who also support RP.

Regardless of what happens in this election there is a growing population of this country ready for real change. It may take another 4 years. Well that is if our dollar doesn't collapse in the meantime. A big change may just be forced upon us.

Who are the "plenty" on this site?. I know of four or five. (Taco,Baja, Roh,Clav if he's not playing video games, and you who hasn't really talked about why, how or who aside from talking points used by Rp and his poster child TJ.

Re: the house reps. If they were to act against the wishes of their constituents it would be poilitical suicide. What percentage of support does RP have to date?

[alkemical]

Who are the "plenty" on this site?. I know of four or five. (Taco,Baja, Roh,Clav if he's not running his record label or getting his magazine running, and you who hasn't really talked about why, how or who aside from talking points used by Rp and his poster child TJ.

Re: the house reps. If they were to act against the wishes of their constituents it would be poilitical suicide. What percentage of support does RP have to date?

Fixed it for ya! :)

[TailgateNut]

Fixed it for ya! :)

Where can I buy your latest CD?
Your magazine?

[Hotrod]

Regardless of what happens in this election there is a growing population of this country ready for real change. It may take another 4 years. Well that is if our dollar doesn't collapse in the meantime. A big change may just be forced upon us.

And this is where I DO actually support RP. Change is needed but it will only be attained alittle at a time. Is that going to be to little to late, only time will tell. The problem with RP is he wont be able to get anything done period. Right or wrong. I'd rather vote for someone who could bring us 'some' degree of change and start tackling our problems alitte at a time then vote for someone who would try to make massive changes and fail on all levels.

[TailgateNut]

And this is where I DO actually support RP. Change is needed but it will only be attained alittle at a time. Is that going to be to little to late, only time will tell. The problem with RP is he wont be able to get anything done period. Right or wrong. I'd rather vote for someone who could bring us 'some' degree of change and start tackling our problems alitte at a time then vote for someone who would try to make massive changes and fail on all levels.


I guess you have to be a "dumbass" like you and I to understand this complicated concept. :wiggle:

[JCMElway]

**disclaimer -- I'm not bashing Paul here. I like him and his ideas have real merit. However, the bottom line is:

RON PAUL WILL NOT BE THE PRESIDENT ELECT IN 2008. And I will take any kind of monetary wager and/or sig bet to that effect.

He may have enough steam to get some delegates in 2012 or '16, but he does not have enough support to be the president elect this year. From the Republican or Libertarian ticket.

Will anyone dispute that at this point?

[Bronco Bob]

**disclaimer -- I'm not bashing Paul here. I like him and his ideas have real merit. However, the bottom line is:

RON PAUL WILL NOT BE THE PRESIDENT ELECT IN 2008. And I will take any kind of monetary wager and/or sig bet to that effect.

He may have enough steam to get some delegates in 2012 or '16, but he does not have enough support to be the president elect this year. From the Republican or Libertarian ticket.

Will anyone dispute that at this point?

Ron Paul is 72 years old right now. In 2012 he will be 76 years old.
in 2016 he will be 80 years old. So, no, I don't think he is going to
get as many delegates in 2012 or 2016 as he did this year.

[Crushaholic]

It has taken many years to grow the monstrous power structure in Washington, and it will take many years to tear it down. I applaud Ron Paul for starting the debate on how to get back to the vision of the Founding Fathers, but we need more politicians who think like Ron Paul at ALL levels of government before fundamental change occurs. If Ron Paul would somehow be elected, he would be eaten alive by a Congress unwilling to change and an international community unwilling to return America to her sovereign roots. Ron Paul has the right message, but the timing is wrong for him...

[Hotrod]

Ron Paul is 72 years old right now. In 2012 he will be 76 years old.
in 2016 he will be 80 years old. So, no, I don't think he is going to
get as many delegates in 2012 or 2016 as he did this year.

Ever seen the movie "weekend at Ron Pauls"???

of course they already tried to push "weekend at Thompsons" and it never made it out of the screening room so who knows.

[alkemical]

Where can I buy your latest CD?
Your magazine?

CD's being mastered, and my guitar player just had hand surgery. I have the marketing strategy ready to go once we get some things finished, and i'm working on the artwork now. (You'll not have to buy it, we are giving it away for free)

Magazine just started it's ramp up. Next year is our target date. I got a few core stories i'm working on now (like my ideas on an idea thread), as well as i have 4 writers committed to free-lance contracts for material - I'm looking at print, online & mobile editions. So you can take your pick.


Sorry to have disappointed you that i don't sit around playing video games all day.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

But on the bright side, Ron Paul has secured the mini-nukes vote!:thumbs:

But not the "Bush didn't lie about Iraq" vote. :thumbs: