Romney wins Maine, leading in CA, Gaining in GA.

[24champ]

By GLENN ADAMS, Associated Press Writer Sun Feb 3, 6:30 AM ET

AUGUSTA, Maine - Mitt Romney coasted to a win in presidential preference voting by Maine Republicans on Saturday, claiming his third victory in a caucus state and fourth overall.
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The former Massachusetts governor had 52 percent of the vote with 68 percent of the towns holding caucuses reporting. John McCain trailed with 21 percent, Ron Paul was third with 19 percent, and Mike Huckabee had 6 percent. Undecided votes accounted for 2 percent.

The nonbinding votes, the first step toward electing 18 Maine delegates to the Republican National Convention, took place in public schools, Grange halls, fire stations and town halls across the state.

The Associated Press uses presidential preferences expressed in those caucuses to project the number of national convention delegates each candidate will have when they are chosen at Maine's state convention, calculating that Romney will wind up with all 18 delegates when all is said and done.

Campaigning in Minnesota, Romney noted that his victory in Maine came despite McCain's endorsement by the state's two U.S. senators.

"The people of Maine joined those from across the nation in casting their vote for conservative change in Washington ... Like many Americans, the people of Maine are tired of Washington promises made but broken," Romney said in a statement.



The fight for delegate support in Maine came just ahead of Super Tuesday, giving candidates a chance to build momentum for the upcoming contests in more than 20 states.

Most of Maine's caucuses were held Saturday but a scattering of towns will hold theirs Sunday and later in the month. Party leaders were delighted with the heavy turnout, which they said was driven by the most hotly contested race in two decades.

Besides Paul, who visited Maine on Monday, Romney was the only candidate to show up or send a surrogate to campaign as the caucuses drew close. His oldest son Tagg campaigned Friday and appeared at caucuses Saturday.

Romney has also won in the caucus states of Nevada and Wyoming, and finished first in Michigan's primary.

Kim Pettengill, a party activist for more than three decades, said Saturday's was the largest Kennebec County caucus turnout since 1980, the year Ronald Reagan won his first GOP nomination for president.

Party Executive Director Julie O'Brien said other counties reported similarly heavy turnouts.

Overall, the AP tracks the delegate races by projecting the number of national convention delegates won by candidates in each presidential primary or caucus, based on state and national party rules, and by interviewing unpledged delegates to obtain their preferences.

In some states, like Iowa, Maine and Nevada, local precinct caucuses are the first stage in the allocation process. The AP uses preferences expressed in those caucuses to project the number of national convention delegates each candidate will have when they are chosen at county, congressional district or state conventions.

The Maine Democrats hold their presidential preference votes at municipal caucuses on Feb. 10.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080203/ap_on_el_pr/maine_caucuses_12
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#ME


As for California-


Pollster John Zogby: “The Mac Attack appears ready to launch on Super Tuesday. McCain’s leads are commanding, except for in California where Romney leads in Southern California and among women, investors, and voters over 50. Romney holds a double digit lead there among conservatives and leads 56%-18% among very conservative voters. Romney also leads among white voters and among those who say that the war on terror and immigration are top issues.

“McCain will do well because of his big leads in the other states and because of winner-take-all states. But Romney may at least have a strong showing in California. In Missouri, Huckabee is in second place by virtue of strong support with conservative and (especially) very conservative voters.

California
Romney 37%
McCain 34%
Huckabee 12%
Paul 5%
Undecided 13%


http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1444

Georgia-

Rasmussen shows a significant shift to Romney in Georgia, where three days ago it wasn't really a competitive race.

Now it is McCain 31%, Romney 29% and Huckabee 28%.

As those Huckabee voters consider that their allegiance to Huck is helping John McCain gain control of the GOP, expect further erosion from Huck to Romney.

http://www.townhall.com/blog/g/d1a67f32-9d15-4b8c-a6b1-5d3c136f09f2

By the way, there was a PPP poll a couple days ago that showed Romney leading GA over Juan McCain by 1-2%.



As for where I am at here in CO? Romney definitely has it locked up.:approve:

[spdirty]

Just saw this morning Rasmussen had their national poll out and it was McCain 33-Romney 29. This primary stuff is so fluid, and it seems McCain blew his wad after Florida.

And you know that tomorrow and Tuesday talk radio is gonna be on the top of their game. So we'll see.

[24champ]

Just saw this morning Rasmussen had their national poll out and it was McCain 33-Romney 29. This primary stuff is so fluid, and it seems McCain blew his wad after Florida.

And you know that tomorrow and Tuesday talk radio is gonna be on the top of their game. So we'll see.

Talk Radio (Laura, Hannity etc) have endorsed Mitt now, only Rush hasn't endorsed anyone far as I know. I think the "anyone but McCain" crowd will start to show up in these states.

[spdirty]

Talk Radio (Laura, Hannity etc) have endorsed Mitt now, only Rush hasn't endorsed anyone far as I know. I think the "anyone but McCain" crowd will start to show up in these states.

Oh, Rush has endorsed Romney...he just won't come right out and say it, but since Fred dropped out he has made it very obvious who he wants to be the nominee.

I know Miller is for McCain, and as far as I know Romney has Laura, Rush, Hannity, Levin, Beck, even Savage.

Monday and Tuesday they need to just ignore Hillary-Obama and focus all their attention on McCain-Romney. Cuz if McCain wins, the election won't matter. Like another poster previously said, eating wet toast.

[SoCalBronco]

Taegan Goddard's Political Wire

February 03, 2008

Super Tuesday Polls - Republicans
Alabama
McCain 40, Huckabee 31, Romney 21 (SurveyUSA)
Arizona
McCain 43, Romney 34 (Rasmussen)
California
McCain 32, Romney 24, Huckabee 13 (Field Poll)
Romney 37, McCain 34 (Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby)
McCain 40, Romney 31, Huckabee 13 (McClatchy-MSNBC)
Delaware
McCain 41, Romney 35 (American Research Group)
Georgia
McCain 33, Romney 27, Huckabee 18 (McClatchy-MSNBC)
Illinois
McCain 43, Romney 20, Huckabee (Chicago Tribune)
Missouri
McCain 37, Huckabee 27, Romney 24 (McClatchy-MSNBC)
McCain 36, Huckabee 27, Romney 22 (Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby)
Huckabee 31, McCain 29, Romney 27 (American Research Group)
New Jersey
McCain, 54, Romney 23 (Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby)
McCain 46, Romney 31, Huckabee 5 (McClatchy-MSNBC)
McCain 55, Romney 23, Huckabee 7 (Monmouth University/Gannett)
New York
McCain 49, Romney 23 (Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby)
McCain 61, Romney 24 (Marist College)
Oklahoma

McCain 40, Huckabee 19, Romney 17 (Tulsa World)

www.politicalwire.com

Things are looking good! :strong:

[TailgateNut]

Where's Waldo/ err RP on your poll?

Looking at the way things are going on the right side of the aisle, it's evident the righties are running in circles to the beat of the polls hoping to nominate anyone who wont make a bad showing come November.

[24champ]

OH NOES!



Bush Against Romney

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- While President George W. Bush has maintained neutrality among contenders for the Republican presidential nomination, he privately expresses to friends his exasperation with Mitt Romney's hard-line stance on immigration.


Bush is upset that Romney changed his position on the issue, compared to what it had been when he was governor of Massachusetts, at the expense of the president's immigration reform. Bush and Sen. John McCain are not close, but the president is grateful for McCain's support on Iraq and immigration.

A footnote: The president's younger brother, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, has not endorsed any presidential candidate. But he and his political allies were behind Romney's losing effort in last Tuesday's Florida primary.


http://www.townhall.com/columnists/RobertDNovak/2008/02/02/bush_against_romney

[Spider]

I thought RP had maine wrapped up

[24champ]

John McCain Hates Me
By Michael Reagan
Thursday, January 31, 2008

Until last night, when I watched the Republican debate, I had no idea how much John McCain dislikes me and just about everybody else but Rudy Giuliani, who if you believe The New York Times is a pretty good hater himself.

As I watched McCain and Governor Romney go at it during the debate at the Reagan Library I was struck by the huge gap that separates McCain -- whose contempt for his fellow humans is patently obvious -- and my dad, Ronald Reagan, who had nothing but the deepest affection and respect for the American people.

The feeling is mutual between McCain and me. I don’t like the way he treats people. You get the impression that he thinks everybody is beneath him. He seems to be saying, “I was a war hero, and you had damn well better treat me as your superior.”

He has contempt for conservatives who he thinks can be duped into thinking he’s one of them, despite such blatantly anti-conservative actions as his support for amnesty for illegal immigrants, his opposition to the Bush tax cuts which got the economy rolling again, and his campaign finance bill which skewed the political process and attacked free speech.

I am appalled by his contempt for the intelligence of his listeners when he flat-out lies and expects them to believe what he says even when the truth is staring them in the face.

A prime example cited by columnist Robert Novak was McCain’s denial that he had privately suggested that Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito was too conservative, insisting that he recalled saying no such thing, adding that Alito was a "magnificent" choice.

“In fact,” wrote Novak, “multiple sources confirm that the senator made negative comments about Alito nine months ago.”

In last night’s debate, McCain stubbornly defended his charge, false on the face of it, that Romney wanted a deadline for withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq.

"I have never, ever supported a specific timetable" for withdrawing troops, Romney said, adding that McCain's accusation on the eve of Tuesday's primary "sort of falls into the dirty tricks that I think Ronald Reagan would have found reprehensible.

What Romney said last April, was merely that U.S. and Iraqi leaders "have to have a series of timetables and milestones that they speak about" in private, which in no way suggests he was in any sense talking about troop withdrawals.

Despite the evidence, McCain charged that "of course he said he wanted a timetable" for a withdrawal, even though he had never said any such thing. It was McCain daring to ask us if we wanted to believe our lying eyes or his demonstrably false allegation.


McCain must think conservatives are dumb enough to allow him to get away with claiming he’s one of them. This is from a man who opposed drilling for oil in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge in Alaska and who twice voted against President Bush’s tax cuts and sponsored the campaign-finance reform legislation that Romney claimed "took a whack at the First Amendment."

In John McCain’s eyes, conservatives are the Viet Cong of this generation and he treats us as such. It’s either his way or no way.

I despise his habit of talking down to us, like a wise father to an idiot son. He’s just at a loss to understand why everybody doesn’t grovel at his feet and accept his every word as wisdom handed down from his lofty perch atop Mt. Olympus.

I can’t help it. I know in my heart he hates me, and every conservative. If he gets the nomination the only way he could win against Hillary or Barack Obama would be to be part of a McCain-Limbaugh ticket.



http://www.townhall.com/columnists/column.aspx?UrlTitle=john_mccain_hates_me&ns=MichaelReagan&dt=01/31/2008&page=2

[Bronco Jamus]

Romney is most likely going to get my vote if he gets his party's nomination. He really is he best choice with the most experience.

[broncocalijohn]

Talk Radio (Laura, Hannity etc) have endorsed Mitt now, only Rush hasn't endorsed anyone far as I know. I think the "anyone but McCain" crowd will start to show up in these states.


You damn right! KFI and 600 in San Diego had Romney on. KFI is a huge talk radio juggernaut in SoCal and they were trying to find McCain supporters to call in. Romney wasnt my top 3 choices but with everyone basically gone except Paul and McCain, there is no freaking way I can vote for that amnesty lover, screw the tax cut, Hi, I'm Bush but worse, McCain. Anybody but McCain is alright with me. Romney isnt perfect but at least he knows which way to lean. I would love for him to take California big time and the exit polls show that it was illegal alien reasons. McCain just doesnt look right and he has some anger issues before. I am going with plastic, tan man this time around. My sign should say, "Catholics for Mormons". oh wait, we arent supposed to be against anti illegals so they can bring in more dinero for the church. If they only knew how many feel the same why that I do!

[DomCasual]

I have a feeling there are going to be some big surprises on Tuesday - a la New Hampshire and Clinton/Obama. Listening to the radio and reading columns around the country last week, I have almost gotten a sense of, "What the heck! This McCain thing has gone on a little too long. We're not seriously going to nominate this guy, are we?"

And as spd mentioned, the primaries tend to blow with the wind. Momentum is huge, and I get the feeling that Mitt has a lot of momentum right now.

I hope Huckabee gets beat up bad enough to drop out.

[TheDave]

I thought RP had maine wrapped up

He did until the Bilderbergs (fearing for their very existance) put a stop to it... hey, it is what it is.

[TheDave]

I have a feeling there are going to be some big surprises on Tuesday - a la New Hampshire and Clinton/Obama. Listening to the radio and reading columns around the country last week, I have almost gotten a sense of, "What the heck! This McCain thing has gone on a little too long. We're not seriously going to nominate this guy, are we?"

And as spd mentioned, the primaries tend to blow with the wind. Momentum is huge, and I get the feeling that Mitt has a lot of momentum right now.

I hope Huckabee gets beat up bad enough to drop out.

I seriously hope Romney pulls this out... Depending on who his running mate is, it could make the general election much more interesting.

That and i would like to see how "Pro War" he really is when McCain is no longer around.

[frerottenextelway]

You peeps that think Romney has much of a chance are nuts.

NY, MO, AZ, NJ, and CT are all winner take all states. That means that whoever wins that states gets 100% of the delegates. McCain holds insurmountable leads in all those states except MO (where he still holds about a 10% lead). Where are Romney's delegates going to come from? Even if he somehow squeeks out a small win in CA and GA, so what? It means nothing.

[24champ]

Depending on who his running mate is

I'm about 80% sure it will be Jim Demint.

[broncocalijohn]

We get what we deserve then if McCain is president and then takes the white house. You can kiss a fence and any other pro american worker vs illegals out the window. His true ,natural colors will shine. Bush I blew it with raising taxes in the early 90s.

[24champ]

You peeps that think Romney has much of a chance are nuts.

NY, MO, AZ, NJ, and CT are all winner take all states. That means that whoever wins that states gets 100% of the delegates. McCain holds insurmountable leads in all those states except MO (where he still holds about a 10% lead). Where are Romney's delegates going to come from? Even if he somehow squeeks out a small win in CA and GA, so what? It means nothing.

Um not really. Romney will fight this till probably March 4th, where bigger and Conservative states are in play. He has the money to do it as well.


CA, GA are trending towards Romney, and Romney will easily win Mass, UT as winner take all states right now. Plus Colorado, Idaho, Alaska are going to be in the bag for Mitt as well. Alaska is being campaigned by Mitt's son Josh, and Romney poured money into radio ads and such up there talking about McCain on ANWR etc. Montana, Minnesota, West Virginia, North Dakota are all in play and being campaigned by Romney pretty hard too.


Call me NUTS all you want, but this isn't over and it isn't going to be a cake walk for McCain.

[frerottenextelway]

Look, here's the "in the bank" delegate count

McCain
93 - Already Has
101 - NY
53 - AZ
52 - NJ
30 - CT
---------------
329


Romney
77 - Already Has
36 - Utah
---------------
113

The remaining "winner take all" states have a combined delegate count of 101(MO, DE, MT)

Romney is a ways back in MO, but even if he sweeps those, he's still down 115 delegates, and that's a best case scenario.

Another best case scenario, is that he squeeks out wins in CA and GA, but that's only going to pick him up a handful of delegates. When you take a look at the next set of states, he's not doing well here either. He's down 15 in IL, he's down 30 in AL, even losing TN by a few.

So a best case scenario still has him way back, where are those delegates going to come from? A place like Alaska has a total of 29 delegates, and those will get split up. If Romney does well, what will he pick up? Maybe 5 more delegates than McCain? You mentioned Idaho. Idaho doesn't even happen until the end of May, it's irrelevant. Romney is doing well in CO, but frankly, I don't think there's much doubt that McCain will do better in IL than Romney will do CO.

On the InTrading where people basically place bets on will win, Romney has collapsed into single digits. There's just no realistic path for Romney to win this thing, even if things do swing his way.

[Kaylore]

If McCain is the nominee I could see myself voting for a Dem for the first time...unless that person is Hillary. They are pretty much the same person as far as policy goes. At least Obama seems like he genuinely wants to help the country whereas Clinton and McCain want to be President for the power trip of the whole thing. Go Romney. Go Obama.

[Kaylore]

Frefottenextelway has a point. Romney doesn't have much hope left. My hope is that if McCain gets the nomination enough of the base stays home or votes third party to sink McCain and then we won't have to hear from him ever again.

[24champ]

Romney doesn't have much hope left.

There is hope Kahn, Mitt is gaining steam fast. I hope your caucusing on Tuesday.

If you want some optimistic outlook on Mitt's chances, check this out.

http://www.redstate.com/blogs/ender/2008/feb/02/how_romney_can_derail_mccain

Some information for those of you Colorado residents. If your a Democrat. I am sure they have info on ColoradoDNC.com or something.

http://www.cologop.org/pages/caucusfaq.cfm



Anyway new Zogby poll shows Romney ahead by...yes 8 percent in CA. He could potentially increase that lead and come away with a bunch of delegates.

http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1445


Romney isn't giving up without a fight.:thumbs:

[frerottenextelway]

There is hope Kahn, Mitt is gaining steam fast. I hope your caucusing on Tuesday.

If you want some optimistic outlook on Mitt's chances, check this out.

http://www.redstate.com/blogs/ender/2008/feb/02/how_romney_can_derail_mccain

Some information for those of you Colorado residents. If your a Democrat. I am sure they have info on ColoradoDNC.com or something.

http://www.cologop.org/pages/caucusfaq.cfm



Anyway new Zogby poll shows Romney ahead by...yes 8 percent in CA. He could potentially increase that lead and come away with a bunch of delegates.

http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1445


Romney isn't giving up without a fight.:thumbs:


This is the headline of the link you posted. "McCain Dominates Everywhere Except California". Winning CA is nice, it's just not nearly enough for Romney.

[Bronco Bob]

I think if it came to a choice between Romney and Obama I'd vote for
Romney. With all the problems this country has it's just too much
of a crap shoot to elect a guy with zero experience.

[spdirty]

I think if it came to a choice between Romney and Obama I'd vote for
Romney. With all the problems this country has it's just too much
of a crap shoot to elect a guy with zero experience.

wow.

With that said I think if its close between Hillary and McCain I'd have to go for Hillary.

If its not close (which I don't think it will be), then Id have to write in Paul or Romney. But I'd a helluva lot rather have Hillary in there than McCain.

[TailgateNut]

If Hillary wins the Dem nomination I don't know who the hell I going to vote for.

[spdirty]

If Hillary wins the Dem nomination I don't know who the hell I going to vote for.

Jeb.

[TailgateNut]

Jeb.

I have never and will never cast a vote for a Bush. It's like having a wolf guard the hen house. I just doesn't make sense!

[DomCasual]

This already seems to be happening, based on what you hear on talk radio.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/02/super.tuesday/index.html

Analysis: Is there life after Super Tuesday?

To paraphrase Winston Churchill, it is not the end, but it is more than the end of the beginning. It is perhaps the beginning of the end.

But with only two or three major candidates left in each party, and with more than half of the country voting, surely both races will be decided on February 5.

Maybe. Maybe not.

The race isn't over until somebody gets a majority of delegates, and both parties have rules that make it difficult to get to a majority.

The Democratic rules award delegates proportional to the vote, so if a candidate gets 40 percent of the vote, he or she gets 40 percent of the delegates.

The winner does not take all. The candidate who comes in second will continue to amass delegates. The candidate who comes in first has to win by overwhelming margins in order to get to a majority quickly.

That seems less and less likely. Polls show Barack Obama gaining momentum as Super Tuesday approaches. Crushing victories by either Hillary Clinton or Obama don't seem to be in the cards.

The fact that most delegates are awarded by congressional district makes it less likely that either Clinton or Obama will sweep the field. Each contender will be able to find pockets of strength in different areas of a state.

And keep this in mind: Many states, including California, allow their residents to start mailing in their ballots weeks before primary day.

What happens to the thousands of Californians who voted weeks ago for John Edwards or Rudy Giuliani? Tough luck. They wasted their ballots.

The Republican race still has three major candidates, each of whom has won at least one state.

Mike Huckabee is likely to win delegates in states and districts where evangelical voters predominate on February 5. A three-way split makes it harder for a Republican candidate to build a majority.

Past campaigns have seen a reverse bandwagon effect. When a candidate gets close to winning the nomination, the bandwagon doesn't speed up. It slows down.

Voters in the late primaries say, "Oh my God! What have we done?''

That happened to Jimmy Carter twice. In 1976, an "ABC" -- Anybody But Carter -- movement led to late-season victories by Jerry Brown. In 1980, after Carter beat Edward Kennedy in the early primaries, Kennedy started winning.

The race got closer and ended up going all the way to the convention.

It happened in the 1976 Republican race. Gerald Ford defeated Ronald Reagan in the early contests. But when it began to look like Ford had the nomination, Reagan started winning the late primaries. The suspense continued right up to the convention.

If Clinton seems to clinch the nomination Tuesday, watch for a "stop Clinton" movement to emerge in the late primaries, led by Democratic officeholders terrified of running with Clinton at the top of the ticket.
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The same thing could happen if John McCain is the big Republican winner on Super Tuesday. Some conservative activists have already signaled an interest in trying to stop McCain in the late primaries. His biggest competition is Mitt Romney, the former Massachusetts governor.

So even if we get apparent nominees on Super Tuesday, the late primaries offer a setting for the final phase of nominating process: voters' remorse.

[BroncoInferno]

I think if it came to a choice between Romney and Obama I'd vote for
Romney. With all the problems this country has it's just too much
of a crap shoot to elect a guy with zero experience.

I'd say with all the problems this country has had it's a bigger risk to vote in another corporate lackey who will do all he can to strangle the middle class. Obama will put experienced vets around him (i.e. Biden, Richardson) and take a pragmatic, intellectual approach to the job. The "experience" thing is a bit overstated.

[Bronco Bob]

I'd say with all the problems this country has had it's a bigger risk to vote in another corporate lackey who will do all he can to strangle the middle class. Obama will put experienced vets around him (i.e. Biden, Richardson) and take a pragmatic, intellectual approach to the job. The "experience" thing is a bit overstated.

Notice the only ones stating experience isn't important are the ones
with no experience? If you needed brain surgery, who would you pick,
a doctor just out of med school or the top brain surgeon in the country?

[Bronco Jamus]

I'd say with all the problems this country has had it's a bigger risk to vote in another corporate lackey who will do all he can to strangle the middle class. Obama will put experienced vets around him (i.e. Biden, Richardson) and take a pragmatic, intellectual approach to the job. The "experience" thing is a bit overstated.

Romney isn't a corporate lackey. Whatever that even means. He's got economic experience which is what this country needs more than anything.

[Bronco Bob]

Plus Romney was a governor, and has executive experience. I mean if
the sole criteria for electing a president is someone with no experience,
why not just make me president. Oh, wait, I was a petty office in the
US Navy, and a senior engineer at Hughes Aircraft Company,
that means I had some leadership experience. I guess that
disqualifies me.

[24champ]

Plus Romney was a governor, and has executive experience. I mean if
the sole criteria for electing a president is someone with no experience,
why not just make me president. Oh, wait, I was a petty office in the
US Navy, and a senior engineer at Hughes Aircraft Company,
that means I had some leadership experience. I guess that
disqualifies me.

You served in the Navy? Probably makes you an economic guru by McCain's standards...

[baja]

Notice the only ones stating experience isn't important are the ones
with no experience? If you needed brain surgery, who would you pick,
a doctor just out of med school or the top brain surgeon in the country?

I think being adapt at choosing capable and talented people to surround yourself with is much more important than personal experience. Obama has a general philosophy he wants to bring to his presidency and appears to be of high character. As long as he picks talent and listens to that wisdom he and we will be fine.

[Kaylore]

You served in the Navy? Probably makes you an economic guru by McCain's standards...

LOL No, McCain thinks ignorance on the worlds largest economy is funny! Huzzah!

http://www.drudgereport.com/jma.jpg

Yeah there's a man with the temperament to lead this country!

[24champ]

LOL No, McCain thinks ignorance on the worlds largest economy is funny! Huzzah!

http://www.drudgereport.com/jma.jpg

Yeah there's a man with the temperament to lead this country!

:spit:

[SoCalBronco]

Ready for a great day tomorrow for Big Mac!

[Bronco Bob]

You served in the Navy? Probably makes you an economic guru by McCain's standards...

Well, I do know how to balance a checkbook. :sunshine:

[Bronco Bob]

I think being adapt at choosing capable and talented people to surround yourself with is much more important than personal experience. Obama has a general philosophy he wants to bring to his presidency and appears to be of high character. As long as he picks talent and listens to that wisdom he and we will be fine.

Isn't that sort of what we got with George W. Bush. A guy with not much
experience who mostly depended on his advisers and VP to guide him
along. Don't you also have to have a bit of experience to know who
to choose as your advisers? I just find it odd that so many people
and the MSM have to make excuses for Obama's obvious lack of
qualifications to even be governor of Illinois, let alone to be the
President of the United States.

[frerottenextelway]

Romney loses WVA to Huckabee. Signs are pointing that he'll do a lot worse in CA than polling suggested. His home state isn't going to be a landslide. This thing is over, Romney will probably bow out by weeks end. Sorry to the McCain haters.

[broncocalijohn]

Ready for a great day tomorrow for Big Mac!


I will choke on a big mac if he is the republican nominee. What is there to like about this guy unless you lean to the left as a Republican. He ties up the judges, voted against the tax break, loves his amnesty program, campaign reform bill was/is a joke and dude has nothing going for him when he talks in committees or debates. He is the worst choice. TGN, do what I do if your candidate doesnt make it and that is 3rd party. American Independent.

[BroncoInferno]

Isn't that sort of what we got with George W. Bush. A guy with not much
experience who mostly depended on his advisers and VP to guide him
along.

No, not really. Bush picked corporate whores who perhaps had experience, but were corporate whores in practice like Cheney and Rumfeld. Obama will likely pick truly responsible folks like Biden, Richardson, etc. That is a big difference. Those guys have track proven records when it comes to foreign policy and domestic sobriety. Obama is a true pragmatic and will listen closely to their sound advice.

Don't you also have to have a bit of experience to know who
to choose as your advisers?

Does it take a rocket scientist to know that Joe Biden and Bill Richardson are top of the line when it comes to top notch advisors?

just find it odd that so many people
and the MSM have to make excuses for Obama's obvious lack of
qualifications to even be governor of Illinois, let alone to be the
President of the United States.

I find it odd that folks pretend that Hillary is some sort of veteran when it comes to experience. Please. 1.5 terms as senator plus 8 years in a non-legislative position (in which she largely failed in terms of pushing legislation regardless) does not equate to hard core experience by any stretch. It's absurd. Obama is no less qualified than Hillary.

[TailgateNut]

No, not really. Bush picked corporate whores who perhaps had experience, but were corporate whores in practice like Cheney and Rumfeld. Obama will likely pick truly responsible folks like Biden, Richardson, etc. That is a big difference. Those guys have track proven records when it comes to foreign policy and domestic sobriety. Obama is a true pragmatic and will listen closely to their sound advice.



Does it take a rocket scientist to know that Joe Biden and Bill Richardson are top of the line when it comes to top notch advisors?



I find it odd that folks pretend that Hillary is some sort of veteran when it comes to experience. Please. 1.5 terms as senator plus 8 years in a non-legislative position (in which she largely failed in terms of pushing legislation regardless) does not equate to hard core experience by any stretch. It's absurd. Obama is no less qualified than Hillary.


Thanks for the post during my absense from the board.

Bob, what has Hillary done that makes her a more QUALIFIED presidential candidate? Is it because she's married to Bill, or is it that she doesn't need a map to find her way around the WH?

WHAT?

[Bronco Bob]

Thanks for the post during my absense from the board.

Bob, what has Hillary done that makes her a more QUALIFIED presidential candidate? Is it because she's married to Bill, or is it that she doesn't need a map to find her way around the WH?

WHAT?

If you are interested you could look it up. But of course you aren't really
interested, you just have your panties in a bunch because not everyone
in the world has Clinton Derangement Syndrome. So think what you like.
Vote for Jimmy Carter 2.0, I don't really care.

[spdirty]

Thanks for the post during my absense from the board.

Bob, what has Hillary done that makes her a more QUALIFIED presidential candidate? Is it because she's married to Bill, or is it that she doesn't need a map to find her way around the WH?

WHAT?

What makes a freshman senator who has only served 1/3 of his first term qualified?

[Bronco Bob]

What makes a freshaman senator who has only served 1/3 of his first term qualified?

He talks purdy. Apparently for some people that's enough.

[baja]

He's the anti Christ so there fore he will be the next president of the United States. It is written...

[spdirty]

He talks purdy. Apparently for some people that's enough.

Identity politics, just like McCain. I don't know, if you ask me, all 6 of these candidates suck.

[TailgateNut]

One thing I've come to realize regarding this years' election, is that Voters in general are dead set on their candidate, and many are willing to sit out or cross party lines if their candidate does not win the nomination. That, gentlemen and ladies is IMO a first.

[Bronco Bob]

One thing I've come to realize regarding this years' election, is that Voters in general are dead set on their candidate, and many are willing to sit out or cross party lines if their candidate does not win the nomination. That, gentlemen and ladies is IMO a first.

Yep. Nothing personal. If I saw you in a bar, I'd buy you a beer. :approve:
We just like who we like and are going to defend our choices.

[spdirty]

One thing I've come to realize regarding this years' election, is that Voters in general are dead set on their candidate, and many are willing to sit out or cross party lines if their candidate does not win the nomination. That, gentlemen and ladies is IMO a first.

we got screwed by Bush and are dead set against it happening again.

But I think its good. Shows that many people actually pay attention and won't just blindly go with the person who has the (R) or (D) next to their name.

[TailgateNut]

we got screwed by Bush and are dead set against it happening again.

But I think its good. Shows that many people actually pay attention and won't just blindly go with the person who has the (R) or (D) next to their name.

The "side joke" last night was that Bush was actually a UNITER. He united the country to make an effort to never allow someone to **** on our country again!

[broncocalijohn]

Bush is a UNITER. He is unitying us to never go through that again. As for sticking with our candidate, I am not so sure. I have switched as the candidates drop. You have been lucky that your guy is still in it. Romney was probably my 3rd or 4th choice but it is almost the best man for the job .... to knock out McCain. McCain was dead a few months back. I have no foneco idea how he came back to life.