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24champ
01-31-2008, 03:02 AM
McCain declines one-on-one debate

NBC invited John McCain and Mitt Romney onto “Meet the Press” Sunday for a final debate before Super Tuesday. Romney, now the underdog and eager for opportunities to take on the front-runner, immediately accepted. McCain, who appeared on the show last week and is looking to protect a lead, declined.

There has yet to be a head-to-head debate between the two front-runners, and there likely won't be one before voters in more than 20 states go to the polls next week.



http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0108/McCain_declines_oneonone_debate.html



Not surprised after seeing McCain suck hindtit in the CNN debate tonight.

McCain how would you lead America in the economy?

"I was a POW and led young men into battle..."

::)

Bronco Bob
01-31-2008, 10:17 AM
McCain seems to be parapharasing Giuliani, each sentence
he speaks contains a noun, a verb, and POW.

Spider
01-31-2008, 10:19 AM
I dont think McCain is scared of Romney , I think it has more to do with NBC ....

Rohirrim
01-31-2008, 10:22 AM
Never debate a guy with a great hairdo and a couple of hundred million. ;D

Actually, it's true in this case. Romney is a professional salesman of the highest order. It's how he made those millions. McCain knows he'd get whomped.

Spider
01-31-2008, 10:24 AM
Never debate a guy with a great hairdo and a couple of hundred million. ;D

Actually, it's true in this case. Romney is a professional salesman of the highest order. It's how he made those millions. McCain knows he'd get whomped.

LOL .... got a point

spdirty
01-31-2008, 11:19 AM
Never debate a guy with a great hairdo and a couple of hundred million. ;D

Actually, it's true in this case. Romney is a professional salesman of the highest order. It's how he made those millions. McCain knows he'd get whomped.

he got slaughtered last night.

what a puss.

cutthemdown
01-31-2008, 11:25 AM
Romney wanting the debate shows you he feels he is going to lose. If you feel you are ahead like McCain is then you don't debate unless you have to.

spdirty
01-31-2008, 11:33 AM
I guess Romney is putting out a shltload of ads this weekend as a last ditch effort before Super Tuesday. Hope they work.

This is just so f@cking depressing.

I know that if he got one shot head to head with McCain he would make the best of it.

cutthemdown
01-31-2008, 11:55 AM
I guess Romney is putting out a shltload of ads this weekend as a last ditch effort before Super Tuesday. Hope they work.

This is just so f@cking depressing.

I know that if he got one shot head to head with McCain he would make the best of it.

The problem is that Romney seems fake to many Republicans. Even though many Republicans hate McCains stance on immigration, they feelhe his is more trustworthy I think. Romney seems manufactured while McCain seems like a real person who is really searching for ideas that reflect his beliefs.

I will say that I think McCain/Romney/Clinton/Obama aren't as different as you all think when it comes to what your life will be like.

TailgateNut
01-31-2008, 12:01 PM
I will say that I think McCain/Romney/Clinton/Obama aren't as different as you all think when it comes to what your life will be like.



WOW!

defenseman
01-31-2008, 12:09 PM
The problem is that Romney seems fake to many Republicans. Even though many Republicans hate McCains stance on immigration, they feelhe his is more trustworthy I think. Romney seems manufactured while McCain seems like a real person who is really searching for ideas that reflect his beliefs.

I will say that I think McCain/Romney/Clinton/Obama aren't as different as you all think when it comes to what your life will be like.

You haven't been paying attention to the polls have you? Getting the conservative/very conservative republican vote is not the issue for Romney. It's the moderates and independent voters that are doing him in. It starts and ends right there. Fact is, McCain is a liberal in many areas, the only difference is he has an (R) after his name..........dman

cutthemdown
01-31-2008, 12:10 PM
WOW!

I guess I feel like that because basically my life stays the same regardless nut. No drastic plans will ever make it through Congress so I doubt any big huge changes will happen. One of these Admins maybe I will get surprised and see some real changes, but until then I remain skeptical that the 2 party system is just a way of giving us no choices. We get led to believe that Hilliary is going to do this, while McCain will do that, when in fact after 4 yrs your life is what you make of it, not what they do. Economies seem to go up and down regardless of who is President, wars happen either way, corporate corruption, etc etc etc.

I guess I just don't feel any of these leaders have the charisma to take over Congress and make them pass his/her legislation.

cutthemdown
01-31-2008, 12:14 PM
You haven't been paying attention to the polls have you? Getting the conservative/very conservative republican vote is not the issue for Romney. It's the moderates and independent voters that are doing him in. It starts and ends right there. Fact is, McCain is a liberal in many areas, the only difference is he has an (R) after his name..........dman

Since I am from California most of the Republicans I know are probably moderate. I don't hang with super religious people so I don't know about them. And I also don't put a lot of stock into polls. Besides I didn't really talk about what sects of the party thought he seemed fake. It probably is the moderates and liberal republicans that feel he is manufactured. It could be possible he doesn't have that image problem with the neo-cons and the religious right.

The fact is people are sick of Christians running the show. That's the mood I sense in California. If McCain wins California Romney is in real trouble.

baja
01-31-2008, 12:23 PM
McCain seems to be parapharasing Giuliani, each sentence
he speaks contains a noun, a verb, and POW.

Why is getting captured and tortured considered a good qualification to be president of the United States.

Rohirrim
01-31-2008, 12:25 PM
Why is getting captured and tortured considered a good qualification to be president of the United States.

If he was Kerry, they'd be calling him a traitor for winning those medals.

spdirty
01-31-2008, 12:27 PM
Ole Hewitt nails it right here.

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=515 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=tdb13c>Wednesday, January 30, 2008</TD></TR><TR><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 8px">An Angry, Defensive McCain (http://www.townhall.com/blog/g/b4e02163-3028-4793-ae9e-29ac9b13b0eb)</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tx10c1 style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 8px; PADDING-TOP: 8px">Posted by: Hugh Hewitt (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/) at 9:50 PM</TD></TR><TR><TD class=mainBlogtext>John McCain won over few if any conservatives tonight, and his display of bad temper and his rambling filibuster of his wrongful "timetables" attack on Romney from last weekend may even have lost him some moderates. In the spin room heads were shaking. McCain was at his worst in the second half of the debate, and those who watched had to ask themselves how this sort of performance would play against a youthful, upbeat Obama with a MSM ready not to protect McCain but tear into him as aging and confused --even obviously deceptive-- about his facts.

The first half of the debate was Romney's on points. Romney began by listing the series of assaults on conservative values championed by McCain including McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy, the McCain-Lieberman global warming regulatory monster, the opposition to exploration in ANWR and the votes against the Bush tax cuts. McCain's responses are the same we have heard again and again, and they do not wear well. Romney was assisted by the obvious downgrading by Anderson Cooper and Janet Hook of Mike Huckabee, and Huckabee's frustration at his demotion to Ron Paul status broke through in the second half of the debate, but only served to underscore that the real contest doesn't involve him. It is a McCain-Romney race, and anyone watching the debate knows that.

If they are Republicans, they also will almost certainly walk away disquieted by the prospect of a McCain nomination, both because of his ideas and even more so because he just didn't look electable tonight. Romney did. In fact McCain's best part of the day was when Rudy was talking about him, and it went down hill from there. McCain will get another assist from Arnold tomorrow or Friday, but it is hard to hide the fact that this would be a second Bob Dole campaign, with less energy and fewer conservative principles. Many, many Republicans have to be worried not just about losing the White House, but about a dispirited party and a down-ticket wipe-out. McCain supported the surge. That's true, and a very strong point. But is it enough to wage a nine-month campaign on?

Romney's third conscutive strong performance in a debate will almost certainly lead to a rise day-to-day over the next six days in key states, but whether he rises fast or far enough depends primarily on the Huckabee voters' recognition that continued allegiance to the Huck spells a McCain nomination and all that means for the next nine months.
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http://www.townhall.com/blog/g/b4e02163-3028-4793-ae9e-29ac9b13b0eb

Rohirrim
01-31-2008, 12:31 PM
If you think about it, Obama would dismantle McCain in a debate. It would be ugly.

spdirty
01-31-2008, 12:37 PM
If you think about it, Obama would dismantle McCain in a debate. It would be ugly.

I don't think it would be possible to have a winner in that kind of debate. But Obama would look better, so he would win by default.

Rohirrim
01-31-2008, 12:40 PM
Obama was the president of the Harvard Law Review. Trust me. He would take McCain apart.

Bronco Bob
01-31-2008, 12:52 PM
Yeah, but Al Gore took Bush apart too on technical points.
But Bush's folksy awe shucks act got people on his side.

alkemical
01-31-2008, 12:59 PM
Yeah, but Al Gore took Bush apart too on technical points.
But Bush's folksy awe shucks act got people on his side.

Yeah, but mccain can't pull that off. Maybe if he were the loveable drunk

Hotrod
01-31-2008, 01:00 PM
I certainly dont support Mccain but its a good decission to avoid a debate with him right now. Hes leading and would have little to gain and lots to lose.

baja
01-31-2008, 01:17 PM
Yeah, but Al Gore took Bush apart too on technical points.
But Bush's folksy awe shucks act got people on his side.

True and I found that quite shocking even with my cynical nature regarding the typical US voter..

24champ
01-31-2008, 02:32 PM
That's the mood I sense in California. If McCain wins California Romney is in real trouble.

The delegates are given out differently in California, it's not a winner take all state. I believe it is like each county has a delegate and whoever wins that county gets a delegate. Essentially it's 56 different mini-primaries.

baja
01-31-2008, 02:39 PM
he got slaughtered last night.

what a puss.

McCain has many shortcomings but given his past history I don't it is fair to call him a 'Puss'

alkemical
01-31-2008, 02:50 PM
McCain has many shortcomings but given his past history I don't it is fair to call him a 'Puss'

come on baja, if you don't support torture, you are a pussy!

spdirty
01-31-2008, 06:28 PM
Obama was the president of the Harvard Law Review. Trust me. He would take McCain apart.

But McCain was a POW and led a squadron...so that can be the answer to any question he doesn't know the answer to.

spdirty
01-31-2008, 06:30 PM
McCain has many shortcomings but given his past history I don't it is fair to call him a 'Puss'

Oh yeah...he was a POW...silly me.

So what does being afraid to debate your opponent 1 on 1 make you?