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Taco John

01-23-2008, 12:12 PM

Wow. Ron Paul just about won Louisiana, but all the other candidates pooled their ticket into one so-called "Pro-Life, Pro-Family" ticket to steal the win and split the delegates...

Per LRC.com

Ronald Reagan Wins Louisiana Caucus
Posted by Nick Bradley at January 23, 2008 08:56 AM

According to the Shreveport Times (http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080123/BREAKINGNEWS/80123006), the Pro-Life/Pro-Family ticket won in all 7 districts last night. All non-Paul candidates pooled their delegates into a single delegate slate: Huck, Romney, Benito, McCain, Thompson.

And what about Reagan? Well, this (http://www.gatortesting.net/prolifeprofamily/docs/District_3-5-6.pdf) is the handout for the Pro-Life/Pro-Family delegate slate; It has a photo of Ron and Nancy Reagan and says "win one for the gipper." This is a new low for the rest of the field, but it is what it is and I am not suprised one bit.

Non-Paul candidates also pooled their resources in Wyoming, where Paul was actually ahead on some of the first ballots, but supporters of the various neocon candidates pooled their support to win the county.

On the plus side:

1. The coalition delegate slate will be split 4 ways at the state convention, and Paul may have more than any one candidate.

2. Paul supposedly has most of the alternate delegate slots, most of which were uncontested. So if somebody doesn't show up or is ruled ineligible, a Paul delegate can step up.

Update: The LA GOP is reporting (http://www.bayoubuzz.com/News/US/Politics/President_Race_2008/Louisiana_Republican_Party_Has_Big_Caucus_For_Conv ention_Delegates__5680.asp) that there are only 650 provisional ballots (not half like I heard earlier), and that the provisional ballots will not be counted in the 3rd and 7th districts due to a sufficient margin of victory. However, they will be counted in the other districts because it can affect the margin of error. With 10,000 votes cast and 650 provisional ballots, the margin of victory in the other districts must have been very close. In addition, alternates were selected in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th districts.

Rohirrim

01-23-2008, 12:20 PM

Slimy.

Dudeskey

01-23-2008, 01:46 PM

agreed, thats bull****... But thats the GOP refusing to change the direction they're going, and its going to hurt them badly.

TheDave

01-23-2008, 01:49 PM

Louisiana has delegates?

Spider

01-23-2008, 01:55 PM

Louisiana has delegates?
Bred with Wyoming Delegates ;D

TheDave

01-23-2008, 01:57 PM

Bred with Wyoming Delegates ;D

I was afraid of that...:wiggle:

TailgateNut

01-23-2008, 02:04 PM

What's Ron Paul's last name?!:spit:

You can call me Ron, or you can call me Paul, just call me! PLEASE CALL ME!

Signed:
Ron Paul
Your internet president!

TheDave

01-23-2008, 02:07 PM

Signed:
Ron Paul
Your internet president!

That phrase is true on so many levels...

By the way considering RP raised tens of millions of dollars... where does that money go now?

Taco John

01-23-2008, 02:10 PM

That phrase is true on so many levels...

By the way considering RP raised tens of millions of dollars... where does that money go now?

Towards winning the presidency, where else?

TailgateNut

01-23-2008, 02:15 PM

That phrase is true on so many levels...

By the way considering RP raised tens of millions of dollars... where does that money go now?

I have some room in my safe, and I could also come up with a bunch of off the wall ideas. I haven't delivered any babies, but I made a few, and you could call me "DR" so I could sound more respectable just like Ron.

I crack up everytime I hear his blip about "and he's deliverred 4000 babies", as if that makes him more electable!
So ****ing what. There are many midwifes out there who have delivered babies, but it doesn't qualify them for a room in the White House.

TailgateNut

01-23-2008, 02:16 PM

Towards winning the presidency, where else?

I guess the "young voters" are easier to buy!

tsiguy96

01-23-2008, 02:19 PM

I guess the "young voters" are easier to buy!

even after the economic crash that paul has been predicting for so long, you are still gonna say hes wrong? seriously?

TheDave

01-23-2008, 02:19 PM

Towards winning the presidency, where else?

So he is giving his money to Romney or McCain?

TheDave

01-23-2008, 02:21 PM

even after the economic crash that paul has been predicting for so long, you are still gonna say hes wrong? seriously?

If you think this is an "Economic Crash" you have a lot of learning to do...

and for what it's worth.... Everyone saw this correction coming.

TailgateNut

01-23-2008, 02:21 PM

even after the economic crash that paul has been predicting for so long, you are still gonna say hes wrong? seriously?

He's not the only one who's seen that elephant coming! Geezus!
You act as if the rest of the world is as stupid as Bush and his lemmings!

TailgateNut

01-23-2008, 02:23 PM

So he is giving his money to Romney or McCain?

:rofl:

No, he's going to donate it to the "save the Wet dog foundation".

Dudeskey

01-23-2008, 02:27 PM

I have some room in my safe

Shoot, I have some room in my freezer ;D

TailgateNut

01-23-2008, 02:32 PM

Shoot, I have some room in my freezer ;D

That's for "cold hard cash", Ron Paul only has IOU's. His contributors are counting on future weekly allowances and lemonade stand profits.

Taco John

01-23-2008, 02:36 PM

So he is giving his money to Romney or McCain?

Apparently they could have both used it in Louisiana to try to beat Paul with. Instead, they joined forces with everybody else to compete with him.

Dudeskey

01-23-2008, 02:37 PM

That's for "cold hard cash", Ron Paul only has IOU's. His contributors are counting on future weekly allowances and lemonade stand profits.

aww man.... http://www.proxywhore.com/invboard/style_emoticons/default/damn!.gif

TheDave

01-23-2008, 02:39 PM

Apparently they could have both used it in Louisiana to try to beat Paul with. Instead, they joined forces with everybody else to compete with him.

True, unfortunately the result was the same as every other state... he lost.

TailgateNut

01-23-2008, 02:43 PM

True, unfortunately the result was the same as every other state... he lost.

Unfortunately???

TheDave

01-23-2008, 02:45 PM

Unfortunately???

I was just trying to be polite... It is TJ's board

TailgateNut

01-23-2008, 02:47 PM

I was just trying to be polite... It is TJ's board

....but considering your disclaimer, where you being polite?:wiggle:

Bronco Bob

01-23-2008, 02:47 PM

True, unfortunately the result was the same as every other state... he lost.

This is sort of what the other Dem candidates tried to do in Michigan,
get people to vote uncommitted as a protest vote against Hillary.
But in her case she still won.

Taco John

01-23-2008, 03:00 PM

It doesn't matter to me if people scoff. Ron Paul is a shrewd man who is actually fiscally conservative. Everywhere he's opened an office, he's used his money to budget forward, funding that office fully until November. Meanwhile, campaigns like Huckabee and others are running on fumes and the size and inefficiency of their organizations are choking their campaigns.

Right now, it's looking like it's going to be a brokered convention, where planks are argued and voted on. Dr. Paul is going to have plenty of delegates to legitimize his spot on that stage and fully get his message out.

Hear me now and believe me later: Ron Paul will continue to be a major player in this election long after Feburary 5th.

TailgateNut

01-23-2008, 03:07 PM

Hear me now and believe me later: Ron Paul will continue to be a major player in this election long after Feburary 5th.

In two weeks Ron Paul will be manning the campaign bilge pumps!

TheDave

01-23-2008, 03:09 PM

so your saying there is still a chance....

http://www.exit171.com/wp-content/d&d.jpg

TailgateNut

01-23-2008, 03:11 PM

so your saying there is still a chance....

http://www.exit171.com/wp-content/d&d.jpg

LOL .

That might strike a nerve!

Taco John

01-23-2008, 03:38 PM

Not at all. All we have to do is persevere. None of these Republican candidates are going to get in without considering our issues. They don't have the numbers to win without us.

Not to mention, they don't have the issues on their side to coalesce widespread support from the conservative base. It doesn't hurt the libertarian faction of the party to take their support to an independant ticket in the end. In fact, if we left and the Republicans lost, it would only legitimize our place in the party and create the kind of shift that Goldwater created that got Reagan elected down the line.

We've already taken the libertarian cause further than it's been taken since it was first installed into our constitution. In that regard, we've already won. The only way we lose at this point is if the Republicans manage to win the election without us. Then we would be marginalized and forced out of the party for good.

So, no... The jokes don't bother me in the least. I'm fully comfortable with where our movement is, and the direction it's going. We're getting a lot accomplished.

Taco John

01-23-2008, 04:21 PM

So... Who Won the Louisiana GOP Caucus?
David Weigel | January 23, 2008, 11:45am
I just spoke to Andrew Axom, the field director for Ron Paul 2008 in Louisiana, to figure out how they did in yesterday's caucuses. The answer? "Honestly, we do not know yet."
Here is how National Review's detail-driven political reporter David Freddoso explained it:
"Last night, something like 20,000 Republicans in Louisiana picked the delegates to their state convention, who will select half of the state's delegates to the national convention (or, as Jim correctly points out, they may select nearly all of them).
The official results are not in yet, but I'm told that McCain beat all of the other candidates. The conservative "uncommitted" effort — designed to influence the party platform — might have come out ahead of everyone...
Ron Paul finished second. His supporters reportedly mobbed the 11 polling places, but many of them could not participate because they were not registered Republicans. They were required to cast provisional ballots, many of which will not count. (The provisional ballots are part of the reason for the delay in tallying the results.)"
Axom confirmed all of this and explained that the "Uncommitted" slate was called the "Pro-Life, Pro-Family" slate. Until yesterday there was a good organization for Fred Thompson. When Fred moseyed off the stage, his canny organizers backed the PLPF slate and handed out ballots like the one pictured above, encouraging people to "win one for the Gipper" by voting for now-homeless delegates. "It was a very slick move on their part," Axom said.
A sizable of number of Paul voters were not registered Republicans until recently (some may not have re-registered at all), so they didn't show up on the rolls and had to cast provisional ballots. In all but two districts (where there aren't enough provisional ballots to affect the outcome) the party is counting them to see if they 1)were cast by registered Republicans and 2)add up to a win.
Final results, when they're available, will be at the LA GOP's website. We're looking at a majority of Republicans in one of the strongest GOP states (post-Katrina) who voted for either Ron Paul or a man who died in 2004.
http://www.reason.com/blog/show/124573.html?

Taco John

01-23-2008, 04:59 PM

Taco John

01-23-2008, 04:59 PM

Bronco Bob

01-23-2008, 06:40 PM

Not at all. All we have to do is persevere. None of these Republican candidates are going to get in without considering our issues. They don't have the numbers to win without us.

Not to mention, they don't have the issues on their side to coalesce widespread support from the conservative base. It doesn't hurt the libertarian faction of the party to take their support to an independant ticket in the end. In fact, if we left and the Republicans lost, it would only legitimize our place in the party and create the kind of shift that Goldwater created that got Reagan elected down the line.

I think Jimmy Carter had a lot more to do with getting Ronald Reagan elected
than did Barry Goldwater. Just like Richard Nixon got Jimmy Carter elected.
And Lyndon Johnson got Richard Nixon Elected. It's basically just throw the
last bum out, not some deep philosophical shift in public opinion. If the
Republicans lose in November, it will be because of George Bush, not
some deep yearning by the public for an heir to Ronald Reagan.

Rohirrim

01-23-2008, 06:45 PM

I think Jimmy Carter had a lot more to do with getting Ronald Reagan elected
than did Barry Goldwater. Just like Richard Nixon got Jimmy Carter elected.
And Lyndon Johnson got Richard Nixon Elected. It's basically just throw the
last bum out, not some deep philosophical shift in public opinion. If the
Republicans lose in November, it will be because of George Bush, not
some deep yearning by the public for an heir to Ronald Reagan.

Sirhan Sirhan got Nixon elected.

Bronco Bob

01-23-2008, 07:02 PM

Sirhan Sirhan got Nixon elected.

Perhaps, but the point was people were fed up with Lyndon Johnson
and were ready for someone different. Whether another Democrat
could have won is just speculation. Seldom does the incumbent
party win more than two terms. Roosevelt/Truman and Reagan/Bush sr.
are the only exceptions I can think of offhand. And people were
generally happy at the end of Roosevelt and Reagan's last terms
which is the main reason their parties won. Unlike after Johnson,
Nixon, and Carter.

Taco John

01-23-2008, 07:35 PM

If the
Republicans lose in November, it will be because of George Bush, not
some deep yearning by the public for an heir to Ronald Reagan.

That's a pretty wierd thing to take out of what I said? I totally think that Bush is the major reason the Republicans will lose. The other part being that they've lost their way and can't seem to find their core again.

But to combat the wierd take you had, the Republicans are ALWAYS looking for an heir to Ronald Reagan. Always.

Spider

01-23-2008, 07:43 PM

Meh. I still think I am the father of Anna Nicoles Smiths Daughter

L.A. BRONCOS FAN

01-23-2008, 10:30 PM

http://www.bartcop.com/we-be-toast.jpg

TailgateNut

01-24-2008, 10:18 AM

spdirty

01-24-2008, 10:39 AM

Crazy followers of a crazy candidate. A rude as hell group of nutcases! Like I stated earlier, they act like a bunch of skinheads: "If you don't agree with us, we'll beat it into you"!

no different than you liberals.

TailgateNut

01-24-2008, 10:46 AM

no different than you liberals.

Please elaborate as to when the Liberal supporters have acted like a bunch of punks!