Norv fired James Lofton. [Archive] - The Orange Mane

HEAV

01-22-2008, 03:08 PM

In a surprising move, receivers coach James Lofton was let go by head coach Norv Turner this morning.

Lofton said, "I was stunned. I loved coaching here."

Turner simply told Lofton he was "going in another direction."

Lofton, a Hall of Fame receiver, coached here since 2002.

Posted by Kevin Acee on January 22, 2008 11:17 AM |

http://weblog.signonsandiego.com/sports/chargers/weblog/archives/018742.html

24champ

01-22-2008, 03:09 PM

Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't Lofton up for the Raiders job last year? Or was that the Chargers job?

boltaneer

01-22-2008, 03:11 PM

I think he interviewed for the Raiders job two years in a row.

HEAV

01-22-2008, 03:11 PM

Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't Lofton up for the Raiders job last year? Or was that the Chargers job?

Faider gig. Infact he had the job, but then AL got greasy on the contract and it fell threw.

Bronx33

01-22-2008, 03:12 PM

Norv should have fired himself for running rivers the whole game (that would have been a new direction)

bronco militia

01-22-2008, 03:12 PM

lol...Vincent Jackson looks like he's finally developing and they can his coach.

nice....

HEAV

01-22-2008, 03:13 PM

I thought he did a damn good job... working with little talent. Jackson just emerged this year.

rovolution

01-22-2008, 03:15 PM

Interesting tidbit

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rai/1988.htm

Shanny coached him for one season with the Faide. Maybe that connection reunites him w/ Shanny.

theAPAOps5

01-22-2008, 03:16 PM

I wouldn't mind seeing Lofton coach up Marshall and whomever replaces Javon.

NW Bolt Fan

01-22-2008, 03:23 PM

lol...Vincent Jackson looks like he's finally developing and they can his coach.

nice....
It's about time. Dude was a great player, but terrible coach. Been calling for his head for years. Jackson's "sudden" improvement didn't happen for no reason- he started actually learning when we signed Chris Chambers.

NW Bolt Fan

01-22-2008, 03:24 PM

I wouldn't mind seeing Lofton coach up Marshall and whomever replaces Javon.LOVE for him to join your squad.

bronco militia

01-22-2008, 03:26 PM

It's about time. Dude was a great player, but terrible coach. Been calling for his head for years. Jackson's "sudden" improvement didn't happen for no reason- he started actually learning when we signed Chris Chambers.

how is that? Until Aj drafted Jackson, the position was virtually ignored for years

Inkana7

01-22-2008, 03:27 PM

Why are you still here? Don't you have some Vader apparel to buy?

theAPAOps5

01-22-2008, 03:32 PM

LOVE for him to join your squad.

As would he since the Broncos are an organization that has been to and won the Superbowl. The Chargers are just satisfied with playoff wins every 13 years.

Bronx33

01-22-2008, 03:46 PM

As would he since the Broncos are an organization that has been to and won the Superbowl. The Chargers are just satisfied with playoff wins every 13 years.

Hey now! those hats and shirts last a long damn time ya know!

boltaneer

01-22-2008, 04:01 PM

NW Bolt Fan

01-22-2008, 04:14 PM

how is that? Until Aj drafted Jackson, the position was virtually ignored for years There's some truth to that, more like the lack of talent at the position, but we did take Caldwell in the 2nd. a few years back. Him not making a stink to keep Welker, I could go on if you really want, but I've been saying for awhile the guy is not a good coach.

NW Bolt Fan

01-22-2008, 04:15 PM

As would he since the Broncos are an organization that has been to and won the Superbowl. The Chargers are just satisfied with playoff wins every 13 years.Please just change your sig to this. You resort to the same thing every other post.

400HZ

01-22-2008, 04:16 PM

Most Charger fans haven't been satisfied with Lofton's results here. Yeah, he hasn't had a lot to work with outside of Jackson and he has finally emerged but I think they wanted to see results a bit faster. Jackson always had the talent but he had the same fundamental problems year after year that Loften never seen to get corrected.

I think they were hoping for much more out of Buster Davis this year and Malcom Floyd has been very disappointing and it seems Norv has been annoyed by Floyd's and Legadu Naanee's route running.

I don't see this as a major loss. He wasn't horrible here but the position could definitely use upgrading IMO.

:thumbsup:

Chambers shows up and a few weeks later Jackson is doing all the stuff right that we've been complaining about since his rookie year - catching with his hands, not his chest, attacking the ball in the air, coming back for the ball, etc. Not a coincidence in my opinion.

Bronco LB 59

01-22-2008, 04:19 PM

Charger fans wish Vincent Jackson was more like Brandon Marshall.

NW Bolt Fan

01-22-2008, 04:21 PM

Charger fans wish Vincent Jackson was more like Brandon Marshall.
I actually did, and have said as much. But lately, it seems like VJ's gonna make the turn afterall. He'll need to do it for a year, but he was playing great in the playoffs. More than likely the IAA switch to pros vs. Brandon playing at UCF. And I like the way Marshall runs with the ball after the catch.

Maybe he just needed the right coach. :)

Inkana7

01-22-2008, 04:24 PM

I actually did, and have said as much. But lately, it seems like VJ's gonna make the turn afterall. He'll need to do it for a year, but he was playing great in the playoffs. More than likely the IAA switch to pros vs. Brandon playing at UCF. And I like the way Marshall runs with the ball after the catch.

Maybe he just needed the right coach. :)

Actually, I don't even think we have a wide recievers coach, per se. Who was it? Bates? 'dinger? ???

rovolution

01-22-2008, 04:30 PM

Actually, I don't even think we have a wide recievers coach, per se. Who was it? Bates? 'dinger? ???

Rod Smith is our unofficial WR coach, and he does a great job!!!!

richpjr

01-22-2008, 04:32 PM

Charger fans wish Vincent Jackson was more like Brandon Marshall.

I'm not sure Charger fans would want Jackson to get arrested for drunk driving, domestic violence, assaulting a police officer, and escalating the Darrant Williams situation.

Inkana7

01-22-2008, 04:34 PM

I'm not sure Charger fans would want Jackson to get arrested for drunk driving, domestic violence, assaulting a police officer, and escalating the Darrant Williams situation.

That'd be true if he ever got charged with anything and if he actually did escalate the Darrent situation.

Black96WS6

01-22-2008, 04:50 PM

Anyone know where I can buy a Darth Vader helmet with the number 21 on the back?

Popcorn Sutton

01-22-2008, 05:07 PM

Can he still play?

Xenos

01-22-2008, 05:21 PM

Well, I don't think fired is the best way to say it. Rather his contract was simply not renewed. I believe 2007 was his last year with us.

NW Bolt Fan

01-22-2008, 05:32 PM

That'd be true if he ever got charged with anything and if he actually did escalate the Darrent situation.
He doesn't have to be charged for teammates to talk about his "role" in what happened. I don't remember the details, but I do recall him being a part of what happened that night.

Popcorn Sutton

01-22-2008, 05:35 PM

He doesn't have to be charged for teammates to talk about his "role" in what happened. I don't remember the details, but I do recall him being a part of what happened that night.

You may want to research this more....

broncolife

01-22-2008, 05:47 PM

At least Norv didnt demote him to ball boy to get him to resign

Bronco LB 59

01-22-2008, 05:50 PM

I'm not sure Charger fans would want Jackson to get arrested for drunk driving, domestic violence, assaulting a police officer, and escalating the Darrant Williams situation.

I was thinking more along the lines of 102 receptions and 1,325 yards receiving, the type of stuff that matters in football.

boltaneer

01-22-2008, 06:22 PM

~Crash~

01-22-2008, 06:26 PM

Actually, I don't even think we have a wide recievers coach, per se. Who was it? Bates? 'dinger? ???

Dinger took over mid season and demoted Watson ... I hope we do not hire a WR coach and let Rod Smith take over ....

theAPAOps5

01-22-2008, 06:34 PM

Please just change your sig to this. You resort to the same thing every other post.

Just grates you doesn't it. I only say it to pathetic little trolls like yourself. I will engage with 400hz, Boltaneer, and Xenos. They come here to discuss football not run their little mouths like you.

Come back when your teams has actually done something to match the way you talk.

Xenos

01-22-2008, 09:31 PM

Hmmm... Dwayne Bowe, Brandon Marshall, and Vincent Jackson?

Whoa Nelly

400HZ

01-22-2008, 09:48 PM

I'd take Brandon Marshall in a heartbeat but to be honest I would be a little wary of his off the field stuff.

Jackson and Chambers are a great duo though and compliment each other well. I'm definitely happy with those two as the starters for years to come. If Parker can come back healthy next season or Buster Davis shows significant improvement, the slot position will be solidified and the WR position should become a strength for the first time in a very long time here.

I'm really digging our WR situation now, too. Chambers and Jackson are studs, Gates will be back healthy, Davis was an A.J. Smith 1st rounder (we all know what that means :thumbsup: ), and Parker can hopefully return to form and be a solid possession guy. Lots of talent and depth there.

Black96WS6

01-22-2008, 11:11 PM

I'm really digging our WR situation now, too. Chambers and Jackson are studs, Gates will be back healthy, Davis was an A.J. Smith 1st rounder (we all know what that means :thumbsup: ), and Parker can hopefully return to form and be a solid possession guy. Lots of talent and depth there.

I agree, the window is still open for us.

Unfortunately though, what's to keep the Patriots from doing the same thing next year?

Is Welker, Stalworth, Moss, etc, going anywhere? If not we could be looking at another Patriots Super Bowl next year, which would suck.

Orange_Beard

01-22-2008, 11:18 PM

I guess Norv found his scapegoat.

NW Bolt Fan

01-23-2008, 12:05 AM

Just grates you doesn't it. I only say it to pathetic little trolls like yourself. I will engage with 400hz, Boltaneer, and Xenos. They come here to discuss football not run their little mouths like you.

Come back when your teams has actually done something to match the way you talk.
Doen'st really "grate" me. Just makes me think you have a hard time coming up with anything else. I'm sure they're honored. I know I would be. :spit:

theAPAOps5

01-23-2008, 11:03 AM

I struck a nerve or else you would stop responding. Sad little troll.

Broncos_OTM

01-23-2008, 11:10 AM

It's about time. Dude was a great player, but terrible coach. Been calling for his head for years. Jackson's "sudden" improvement didn't happen for no reason- he started actually learning when we signed Chris Chambers.
BS he started his break out last year not this one. and your a chugger fan.

Broncos_OTM

01-23-2008, 11:12 AM

He doesn't have to be charged for teammates to talk about his "role" in what happened. I don't remember the details, but I do recall him being a part of what happened that night.

it was Bmarshes cousin.

400HZ

01-23-2008, 01:32 PM

BS he started his break out last year not this one. and your a chugger fan.

He had a couple good games last year, but breakout is a gross exaggeration. His fundamentals sucked. The last 4 or 5 games of this season was when he really started playing well, and the playoffs was his "breakout."

Paladin

01-23-2008, 05:38 PM

Bolt fan, don't talk about something you know nothing about.....

boltaneer

01-23-2008, 05:58 PM

DivineLegion

01-23-2008, 10:34 PM

:thumbsup:

Chambers shows up and a few weeks later Jackson is doing all the stuff right that we've been complaining about since his rookie year - catching with his hands, not his chest, attacking the ball in the air, coming back for the ball, etc. Not a coincidence in my opinion.

whats funny is Dolphins fans were complaing about the samethings regarding Chambers for the last two seasons...I dont think your on track there partner. My best friend is a Dolphin fan and was acctualy ready to see Chambers go, wich baffled me I always thought he a was a good reciver with terrible QB play around him. It seems however that every reciver thats left the dolphins over the last 4 or 5 years for greener pastures and better coaching has emerged.

Bronco LB 59

01-23-2008, 10:39 PM

http://chargers.com/news/headlines/joiner-returns-to.htm

I like the hire. Joiner was successful because of his hard work and his technique. He didn't get by on physical ability. It will bode well if he can pass this on to the young receivers.

I heard him on 1090 tonight. He's a very humble and likable guy.

I agree with him that Don Coryell should be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. He's going to eventually get in, but I hope they would enshine him soon so he can enjoy it.

ColoradoBuff

01-24-2008, 10:14 AM

Dinger took over mid season and demoted Watson ... I hope we do not hire a WR coach and let Rod Smith take over ....

Watson got moved to Shanny's right hand man.

bronco militia

01-24-2008, 10:40 AM

Immediately after his retirement, Joiner was named the Bolts’ wide receivers coach. One of his star pupils during his five seasons as WRs coach (1987-91) was Anthony Miller, who had a breakout 1,252-yard, 10-touchdown season in 1989 and earned Pro Bowl selections following the ’89 and ’90 seasons.

HA HA

bronco militia

01-24-2008, 10:44 AM

Joiner’s most recent coaching stop was with the Kansas City Chiefs, spending seven seasons (2001-07) as their wide receivers coach. In 2007 Joiner oversaw the development of rookie Dwyane Bowe, who was the NFL’s leading rookie receiver with 70 catches, 995 yards and five touchdown catches. Bowe averaged an impressive 14.2 yards per catch during his rookie season. Bowe and Davis were college teammates at LSU and fellow first-round draft picks in 2007. Joiner’s stable of wide receivers in Kansas City also included veteran Eddie Kennison, another LSU grad who racked up back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons in 2004 and ’05.

bronco militia

01-24-2008, 10:46 AM

being the WR coach of the KC chiefs the last 7 years is nothing to brag about.

He's got it made with Jackson and Chambers

Xenos

01-25-2008, 01:04 AM

http://chargers.com/news/headlines/joiner-returns-to.htm

I like the hire. Joiner was successful because of his hard work and his technique. He didn't get by on physical ability. It will bode well if he can pass this on to the young receivers.
Let's put it this way. One of the biggest problems Turner had with the receivers this year was that they would often run the wrong routes under Lofton. Joiner should hopefully fix that problem.

Why?

Because all the routes that Joiner ran when he was with us are the same routes that Norv uses in his present playbook. Joiner, in fact, is the template for what he wants his receivers to be in his system.

400HZ

01-25-2008, 10:13 AM

whats funny is Dolphins fans were complaing about the samethings regarding Chambers for the last two seasons...I dont think your on track there partner. My best friend is a Dolphin fan and was acctualy ready to see Chambers go, wich baffled me I always thought he a was a good reciver with terrible QB play around him. It seems however that every reciver thats left the dolphins over the last 4 or 5 years for greener pastures and better coaching has emerged.

Well whether it was pointers from Chambers or just the fact that Chambers being there pushed Jackson harder, it worked out well for Jackson's development. In retrospect, I'm sure that Phins fans are thrilled about picking up some low second rounders for Chambers and Welker. :rofl: