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Rigs11
01-22-2008, 02:18 PM
says CNN.

Crushaholic
01-22-2008, 02:54 PM
That's too bad. IMO, he was the only true conservative left in the race. He just failed to get his name out...

alkemical
01-22-2008, 02:55 PM
How can be a true conservative? He supported a dictator..... oh wait i guess you are right

24champ
01-22-2008, 03:03 PM
Best of Luck to Fred, he is going through some personal problems, with his mother being close if not gravely ill. So best of luck to him.

Politically speaking, this bodes well for the Romney camp...this coincides with the Huckster thinking of Skipping Florida since his numbers have dropped there.

with an eye to giving up on Florida in the next few days if his polls don’t start to move. What does that mean? It means Mitt catches a minor break in that a few (but not all) of Huck’s supporters in the state will peel off to him as the social con alternative. But it also means the already slim chances of Huck dropping out before Super Tuesday, when those southern states he’s been visiting finally vote, are down to near zero. That means it’ll almost certainly be a four-man race into February, with Romney hobbled by Huck and McCain hobbled by Giuliani (or vice versa, depending upon who finishes ahead).

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/22/huckabee-ready-to-give-up-on-florida/

Bronco Bob
01-22-2008, 03:14 PM
Best of Luck to Fred, he is going through some personal problems, with his mother being close if not gravely ill. So best of luck to him.

Politically speaking, this bodes well for the Romney camp...this coincides with the Huckster thinking of Skipping Florida since his numbers have dropped there.



http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/22/huckabee-ready-to-give-up-on-florida/

Huckabee probably would have won S. Carolina if Thompson had dropped out earlier.

Bronco Bob
01-22-2008, 03:18 PM
I think it was rather boneheaded of Thompson to wait so long before entering the race.
I also think Giuliani is pulling a bonehead move by ignoring the early states and hoping
he wins Florida.

Crushaholic
01-22-2008, 03:27 PM
I think it was rather boneheaded of Thompson to wait so long before entering the race.
I also think Giuliani is pulling a bonehead move by ignoring the early states and hoping
he wins Florida.

If Guliani doesn't win Florida, he's going to have ZERO momentum going into Super Tuesday and will most likely be finished as a candidate. You're right. I think it was a huge mistake to ignore the earlier states...

BroncoBuff
01-22-2008, 03:28 PM
Huckabee probably would have won S. Carolina if Thompson had dropped out earlier.
That's right. Thompon will probably endorse McCain if he hasn't already ... but Huckabee should reap the real bump in poll numbers and votes.

24champ
01-22-2008, 03:34 PM
That's right. Thompon will probably endorse McCain if he hasn't already ... but Huckabee should reap the real bump in poll numbers and votes.

Uh I don't think Huck will get any kind of bump, his numbers have gone down lately.

alkemical
01-22-2008, 03:36 PM
i don't like huckabee due to his excuses for his dog killing kid

baja
01-22-2008, 03:41 PM
One bad option down, now I'm waiting for Giuliani, Huckabee and McCain to drop and I will breath easier.

I can handle 4 years of Mitt Romney.

Bronco Bob
01-22-2008, 03:52 PM
One bad option down, now I'm waiting for Giuliani, Huckabee and McCain to drop and I will breath easier.

I can handle 4 years of Mitt Romney.

I think Hillary could beat Romney. I think McCain would siphon off a lot
of the independent votes from Hillary. I don't see Romney inspiring a lot
of independents, and no one wins with just the votes from their party.
And forget about the so-called high negatives for Hillary. Romney's
negatives are actually higher according to Rasmussen.

baja
01-22-2008, 03:59 PM
In your opinion what are Romney's negatives BB?

BroncoBuff
01-22-2008, 04:04 PM
I'm not the BB you refer to, but I have heard and read that Mitt Romney is the candidate Democratic strategists would most like to run against.

Jobs disintegrated while he was governor, he's a Mormon, and ... oh yeah!. He's changed his position on every major social issue in the last two years.

24champ
01-22-2008, 04:06 PM
I've read the same BB, problem is that they say that about every Republican candidate. I heard the same about Huck, McCain, Rudy etc.

BroncoInferno
01-22-2008, 04:08 PM
Huckabee probably would have won S. Carolina if Thompson had dropped out earlier.

Interesting side note...about half a dozen of my friends who will vote Democrat in the general--and who would be satisfied with either Obama or Clinton as the candidate--actually voted in the Republican primary for McCain in order to try and sabotage the Huckabee vote. How widespread this sort of thing was, I don't know, but they apparently got the idea from some blogger.

baja
01-22-2008, 04:08 PM
What is the weakness the dems are so attracted to?

BroncoBuff
01-22-2008, 04:17 PM
I've read the same BB, problem is that they say that about every Republican candidate. I heard the same about Huck, McCain, Rudy etc.
Huckabee would be a dream come true for any Democratic candidate, but his days are numbered, he has only token, single digit numbers in half the Super-Tuesday states. (BTW- when I said Huck'd get a bump, I only meant a good chunk of Thompson's voters will go his way.) On the other hand, both McCain and Rudy present problems for Hillary or Obama ... on defense and on terrorism (though Rudy's just a shadow now of what he was).

But let's not go overboard, whomever the Democratics nominate will almost cetainly win. This is a "change" election, and only once have we ever elected a same-party candidate at the expiration of a two-term president. That was George Bush, Sr., and it only happened because Reagan was very popular and the country wanted a third term. ALMOST happened in 2000 with Gore when a very popular Bll Clinton could've easily won a third term, too. But this president is a disaster, and the electorate will run like hell from anybody with an (R) .....

BTW, it looks like there will be devastating GOP Senate losses, too.

BroncoBuff
01-22-2008, 04:22 PM
Democrats are even money to get a 60-Senator filbuster-buster super-majority .... man, watch the shinola hit the fan then. Things will REALLY change then. :thumbs:

Bronco Bob
01-22-2008, 04:28 PM
In your opinion what are Romney's negatives BB?

According to the USA Today/Gallup Poll of Jan. 10-13, 2008.

Hillary has a favorable rating of 50% and and unfavorable rating of 46%

in that same poll

Romney has a favorable rating of 32% and an unfavorable rating of 42%

So while Hillary has a slightly higher negative than Romney, her positive is
much higher.

According to the ABC News/Washington Post Poll of Jan. 9-12, 2008

Hillary has a favorable rating of 58% and and unfavorable rating of 40%

in that same poll

Romney has a favorable rating of 34% and an unfavorable rating of 46%

So again Hillary has a much higher positive, and also a lower negative.


In the CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll of Jan. 9-10, 2008
Hillary also does better in positives and ties in negatives.

Hillary has a favorable rating of 53% and and unfavorable rating of 39%

in that same poll

Romney has a favorable rating of 31% and an unfavorable rating of 39%


So on the average Hillary's positives are 53.7% and negatives 41.7%
while for Romney it is 32.3% positive and 42.3% negative.

Thus Romney is slightly more disliked, and more people like Hillary than
they do Romney. If 53.7% of the people like you, you ought to be able
to beat someone who only 32.3% of the people like, assuming the same
amount of people dislike both of you.


http://pollingreport.com/C2.htm#Hillary

http://pollingreport.com/R.htm#Romney

baja
01-22-2008, 04:34 PM
Thanks BB but what in your opinion are the specific issues about mitt that the dems are giddy over?

TheDave
01-22-2008, 04:38 PM
Thanks BB but what in your opinion are the specific issues about mitt that the dems are giddy over?

Mormon... according to the polls I've seen, that will be enough.

Rohirrim
01-22-2008, 04:42 PM
Thompson did what he was supposed to do; He won SCarolina for McCain. Now he just goes to sleep like an old hounddog, waiting for McCain's VP call.

Bronco Bob
01-22-2008, 04:44 PM
Thanks BB but what in your opinion are the specific issues about mitt that the dems are giddy over?

You mean what do you think Hillary can use against him in the election?
Iraq, the economy, George Bush, health care, taxes, his flip/flop positions
on abortion and gay rights. Women aren't going to vote for him. Hispanics
aren't going to vote for him. By November the blacks will have forgiven
Hillary, especially if Obama endorses her. A lot of Evangelicals will sit
out the election rather than vote for a Mormon. So basically all Romney
has is the white male vote. I don't think that is enough anymore.

SoCalBronco
01-22-2008, 08:55 PM
Thompson did what he was supposed to do; He won SCarolina for McCain. Now he just goes to sleep like an old hounddog, waiting for McCain's VP call.

****ing Fred....I was hoping he could help out McCain some more....this is definitely going to hurt in Florida and elsewhere, Romney will definitely benefit....I wish Fred would have stayed in through Super Tuesday.

spdirty
01-22-2008, 09:18 PM
Well, I was gonna vote Fred on Super Duper Tuesday, now Im going Romney. And I bet that thats where his votes go.

24champ
01-22-2008, 09:42 PM
****ing Fred....I was hoping he could help out McCain some more....this is definitely going to hurt in Florida and elsewhere, Romney will definitely benefit....I wish Fred would have stayed in through Super Tuesday.

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Taco John
01-23-2008, 02:12 AM
Mitt Romney is the Republican John Kerry. He doesn't stand a prayer in November.

ak1971
01-23-2008, 02:38 AM
Mitt Romney is the Republican John Kerry. He doesn't stand a prayer in November.

like conspiracy boy RP does either?

24champ
01-23-2008, 02:42 AM
Well, I was gonna vote Fred on Super Duper Tuesday, now Im going Romney. And I bet that thats where his votes go.

What county are you in? I believe you live in CO as well?

TailgateNut
01-23-2008, 09:37 AM
Mitt Romney is the Republican John Kerry. He doesn't stand a prayer in November.

;D


BTW: how's your hero doing in the race for the nomination?

BroncoBuff
01-23-2008, 10:29 AM
Thompson did what he was supposed to do; He won SCarolina for McCain. Now he just goes to sleep like an old hounddog, waiting for McCain's VP call.
Good post duuude ... yer right about Thompson throwing SC to McCain.

Thompson would be a decent VP for McCain, give him a conservative flank, but doesn't that seem like a very old ticket?

Rohirrim
01-23-2008, 10:41 AM
Good post duuude ... yer right about Thompson throwing SC to McCain.

Thompson would be a decent VP for McCain, give him a conservative flank, but doesn't that seem like a very old ticket?

Yeah, their campaign slogan could be, "Time for America to take a nap!" ;D