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Elway777
01-21-2008, 03:04 PM
http://www.gbnreport.com/seniorbowlhtswts.html This is a list of weigh of players.

Broncoman13
01-21-2008, 05:04 PM
QB N7
Chad Henne
Michigan
6-02.7
228

QB
N10
John David Booty
Southern California 6-02.3
213

QB
N5
Joe Flacco
Delaware
6-06.2
232

QB
S15
Colt Brennan Hawaii 6-02.2
185

QB
S16
Andre Woodson Kentucky 6-04.2
234

QB
S10
Eric Ainge
Tennessee
6-054
225

(An amazing list of QB's. At least 1 top 15 pick, and another two that could be first rounders. Eric Ainge will be a steal for somebody around the 3rd round. For the value, he could be the best QB in this draft when it's all said and done. If Henne falls to the tail end of round 2, the same can be said for him. I'm not big on Colt. His upside is that of Drew Brees, but I doubt he ever makes it that far along.)

POS
#
Player
School
HT
WT

RB
N22
Dantrell Savage
Okaloma State
5-08.2
187

RB
N21
Justin Forsett
California
5-07.6
190

RB
N23
Chauncey Washington
Southern California
5-11.4
215

RB
S44
Tashard Choice
Georgia Tech
5-10.5
210

RB
N24
Chris Johnson East Carolina 5-10.4
195

RB
S24
Rafael Little
Kentucky
5-08.7
194

RB
S25
Matt Forte
Tulane
6-01.1
221

RB
S18
Jacob Hester Louisiana State
5-10.5
230

FB
N35
Owen Schmitt West Virgina 6-01.6
247

FB S32
Peyton Hillis Arkansas 6-00.7
240

(Not a super impressive list of RB's. I know some on here are high on Forte and I've even heard some talk of Chauncey Washington. Personally, I'll be keeping an eye on Owen everytime he's on the field. Coaches are going to be really high on this kid after the Sr. Bowl. His worth ethic is tremendous!)

POS

Player
School
HT
WT

WR
N1
Adarius Bowman
Oklahoma State
6-02.7
220

WR
N9
Dorien Bryant Purdue 5-09.5
169

WR
N27
Jordy Nelson Kansas State 6-02.5
215

WR
N14
Marcus Smith New Mexico 6-00.7
214

WR
N17
Lavelle Hawkins California 5-11.1
187

WR
S9
Early Doucet Louisiana State
5-11.7
211

WR
N4
Eddie Royal Virginia Tech 5-09.5
182

WR
S4
Limas Sweed Texas 6-04.0
212

WR
S5
Andre Caldwell
Florida
6-00.4
207

WR
S85
Harry Douglas Louisville 5-11.1
170

WR
S22
DJ Hall Alabama 6-02.2
190

WR
S2
Donnie Avery Houston 5-11.0
18

TE
N82
Kellen Davis
Michigan State
6-06.2
259

TE
N83
Fred Davis
Southern California 6-02.5
250

TE
N87
Martin Rucker Missouri 6-04.6
248

TE
S81
Jacob Tamme Kentucky 6-03.6
234

TE
S86
Brad Cottam
Tennessee 6-07.5
271

TE
S87
Cole Bennett
Auburn
6-04.1
246

(Pretty good list of WR's and TE's. Bowman is this year's Bowe. He's an awesome blocker and a big target. He's suffered through some injuries and lost some production b/c of them so he could make a pretty sizeable jump at the Sr. Bowl. My guess is that he'll be a mid 2nd round pick. Doucett weighed in higher than I thought. Limas Sweed (for whatever reason and I'm a Horn fan) is very highly thought of in most scouting circles. Med and I talked about him about a month ago and we both thought he would go toward the middle to end of round 2. Looks like he'll be a first round pick and could be the first receiver selected. Davis is the best of the TEs and should look pretty good in this game.)

POS
#
Player
School
HT
WT

C
N78
John Sullivan Notre Dame 6-03.3
294

C
N76
Mike Pollak Arizona State 6-03.3
299

C
S74
Steve Justice Wake Forest 6-03.2
289

C S70
Cody Wallace Texas A&M 6-04.1
290

OG N75
Drew Radovich Southern California 6-04.3
302

OG N67
Roy Scheuning
Oregon State 6-03.5
308

OG
S61
Robert Felton Arkansas 6-03.7
313

OG
S79
Oniel Cousins
UTEP
6-04.1
301

G/C S60
Kory Lichtensteiger
Bowling Green
6-02.3
296

G/T
S75
Mike McGlynn
Pittsburgh
6-04.3
309

OT
N74
Kirk Barton Ohio State 6-04.3
303

OT
N79
Sam Baker Southern California 6-04.4
308

OT
N77
Gosder Cherilus
Boston College
6-06.5
315

OT
N73
Carl Nicks Nebraska 6-04.7
343

G/T
N72
Chad Rinehart
Northern Iowa
6-05.2
317

OT
S77
Chris Wlliams Vanderbilt 6-06.1
320

OT
S78
Heath Benedict
Newberry
6-04.6
321

OT
S71
Barry Richardson
Clemson
6-06.3
331

(Gosder, Chris Williams, and Sam Baker are the guys I'll be watching. There is a chance that Chris Williams falls to us in the 2nd round. My guess is that Cutler will explain how he got killed when he was at Vandy and that Chris Williams was just coming into his own while he was there. He's not great but certainly better than anything we have on the roster right now. Sad but true.)

POS
#
Player
School
HT
WT

DT
N98
Trevor Laws Notre Dame 6-00.7
297

DT
N49
Sedric Ellis Southern California 6-00.7
308

DT
S93
Dre Moore
Maryland
6-04.1
307

DT
N90
Kentwan Balmer North Carolina 6-04.4
308

DT
N92
Demario Pressley North Carolina State 6-03.2
300

DT
S94
Andre Fluellen Florida State 6-01.7
285

DT
S85
Red Bryant Texas A&M 6-04.6
326

DT
S55
Marcus Harrison Arkansas 6-02.6
310

DE
N32
Cliff Avril Purdue 6-03.0
252

DE
N59
Chris Ellis Virginia Tech 6-04.2
260

DE
N96
Lawrence Jackson
Southern California
6-04.3
261

DE/T
N83
Jason Jones
Eastern Mchigan
6-05.1
272

DE
S92
Wallace Gilberry Alabama 6-02.4
263

DE/T
S54
Kendall Langford Hampton 6-05.3
275

DE
S91
Darrell Robertson
Georgia Tech 6-03.7
247

DE
S98
Jeremy Thompson Wake Forest 6-04.3
264

(Pretty good list of DTs and DE's. Ellis and Balmer both weighed in higher than most of have projected. In fact, they're a good 15-25lbs heavier. I've seen Ellis listed at 285-290 and he was 308. Little on the short size, but a squatty fella! All in all there are 3 possible first round picks on the teams)

POS
#
Player
School
HT
WT

LB
N40
Dan Connor Penn State 6-02.5
233

LB
N2
Shawn Crable Michigan 6-05.1
241

LB
N55
Keith Rivers Southern California 6-01.7
236

LB
N44
Jordon Dizon
Colorado 5-11.7
228

LB
N11
Xavier Adibi Virginia Tech 6-01.5
220

LB
N52
Beau Bell
UNLV
6-01.5
243

LB/DE
N99
Bruce Davis
UCLA
6-02.5
241

LB
S7
Ali Highsmith LSU 5-11.5
229

LB
S52
Tavares Gooden Miami 6-01.1
233

LB
S46
Wesley Woodyard Kentucky 6-00.5
219

LB
S41
Phillip Wheeler Georgia Tech 6-02.2
245

LB
S59
Ben Moffitt
South Florida
6-01.0
231

LB/DE
S56
Titus Brown
Mississippi State
6-02.5
239

(HOLY SH!T!!! The first 7 or 8 guys are all tremendous LB's. Rivers weight is up to 236. Beau Bell at 243 would be a great Sam. Highsmith was considered small prior to having an official measurement, this didn't help him. He'll probably slide to the 3rd round now. I'd take about 5 of these guys on my team any day!)

POS
#
Player
School
HT
WT

CB
N27
DeJuan Tribble Boston College 5-08.4
190

CB
N13
Charles Godfrey Iowa 5-11.6
207

CB
N26
Terrence Wheatley Colorado 5-09.3
187

CB
N22
Terrell Thomas
Southern California
6-00.3
197

CB
19
Tracy Porter
Indiana
5-10.5
184

CB
S4
Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie
Tennessee State 6-01.3
183

CB
S20
Patrick Lee Auburn 5-11.7
194

CB
S21
Chevis Jackson LSU 5-11.4
188

CB
S2
Simeon Castille Alabama 5-11.7
190

CB
S34
Leodis McKelvin
Troy
5-10.5
190

S
N9
Tom Zbikowski Notre Dame 5-11.1
209

S
N4
Thomas DeCoud California 6-01.4
196

S N22
Jamar Adams Michigan 6-02.2
209

S S25
D.J. Wolfe Oklahoma 5-10.6
200

S S26
Marcus Griffin Texas 5-10.1
198

S
S23
Quentin Demps
UTEP
5-11.6
203

(After that list of LB's this list seems pathetic. I guess Marcus Griffin could turn out to be a player. I'll also keep marks on Zib to see how he plays, but I don't see too many players here. I think the WR's are going to look really good over the next week or two.)
POS
#
Player
School
HT
WT

P
N88
Mike Dragosavich
North Dakota State
6-05.2
207

P
S39
Durant Brooks Georgia Tech
6-00.0
205

PK
N13
Alexis Serna Oregon State 5-06.4
168

PK
S96
Brandon Coutu Georgia 5-11.2
187

LS N54
Tim Bugg Indiana 6-00.0
255

LS
S67
Garrison Sanborn
Florida State
5-11.7
239

We get to watch Drago punt... sweet! I've seen him once and heard A LOT about him. Even before Req started talking about him (that I saw) I heard good things about him. Another guy that I'd consider in the 6th and 7th rounds.

mattob14
01-21-2008, 05:51 PM
It looks like Keith Rivers is answering some questions about his size. I still don't like the idea of taking him at 12, but 6'2" 236 isn't bad. Schmitt checked-in a little lighter than I think most people pegged him, but it's his strength that should really stand out. Overall though, not a lot of surprises this year.

Elway777
01-21-2008, 06:15 PM
http://nfldraftguys.com/features/08_senior_bowl_weigh_in.php

elsid13
01-21-2008, 07:24 PM
Bowman is a little smaller then I thought - at 6'2 vs 6'4 like reported - but sound cut from the reports.

PRBronco
01-21-2008, 09:06 PM
Sounds like Gosder Cherilus is off to a hot start, is 12th overall too high to draft RT who (IMO of course) would instantly upgrade the Oline?

That One Guy
01-21-2008, 09:23 PM
I'll admit I'm no pro on this stuff but it almost seems like RT is kind of like a fallback plan. Kind of like SLB... you take a LB that may not exactly cut it elsewhere and see if he can adequately shed blocks and play his role. You don't hear about a lot of superstar RTs nor many superstar SLBs. If that is the case, shoot for a standout LT and if he fails, try him at RT.

TheDave
01-21-2008, 09:48 PM
I'll admit I'm no pro on this stuff but it almost seems like RT is kind of like a fallback plan. Kind of like SLB... you take a LB that may not exactly cut it elsewhere and see if he can adequately shed blocks and play his role. You don't hear about a lot of superstar RTs nor many superstar SLBs. If that is the case, shoot for a standout LT and if he fails, try him at RT.

Unfortunately, i think that is exactly what they did with George Foster

lex
01-21-2008, 09:51 PM
I'll admit I'm no pro on this stuff but it almost seems like RT is kind of like a fallback plan. Kind of like SLB... you take a LB that may not exactly cut it elsewhere and see if he can adequately shed blocks and play his role. You don't hear about a lot of superstar RTs nor many superstar SLBs. If that is the case, shoot for a standout LT and if he fails, try him at RT.

Thats not entirely true. There are lefthanded quarterbacks.

Requiem
01-22-2008, 12:02 AM
Broncos seen talking to. . .

Jamar Adams
DeJuan Tribble
Chad Henne
Shawn Crable

And yeah, Drago kicks ass.

PRBronco
01-22-2008, 01:53 AM
Broncos seen talking to. . .

Jamar Adams
DeJuan Tribble
Chad Henne
Shawn Crable

And yeah, Drago kicks ass.


Wooties! Course with Shanny it's all smoke and mirrors. If I can't trust what I read on the internet I...don't know how to feel.

SoCalBronco
01-22-2008, 02:31 AM
Day 1 Report from Scout

Senior Bowl Blog: Monday Afternoon

NORTH SQUAD
Lisa Blumenfeld - Getty By Nick Athan
Warpaint Illustrated Publisher
Posted Jan 21, 2008


Nick Athan reports on Monday's North practice from the Senior Bowl.

MOBILE, Ala. - The most frustrating aspect of Monday's practice was the Oakland Raiders’ coaching staff. They did a poor job of instructing the players - when a mistake was made, sometimes it was ignored. There also wasn't any flow and sometimes plays continued even after the ball carrier was stopped, a good way to get someone hurt.

Most of the scouts in attendance shared my opinion, and many left the practice field in disbelief. We’ll see how the 49ers’ coaching staff handles the South practice tomorrow. The South and North squads separated locations for their workouts today.

Quarterback:

Chad Henne (Michigan) - His arm strength was questionable throughout the entire practice. He had a tough time making even the most basic of throws across the middle of the field. He did have some zip on the ball at times but was generally off target. Not a strong day.

John David Booty (USC) - Like Henne, Booty was all over the place today. He throws a soft ball and has good size at 6-foot-3, but didn’t really show much. His delivery is suspect. When the defense came after him he struggled even more.

Joe Flacco (Delaware) - I spoke with him this morning and he seemed like a confident young man. He throws the ball with tremendous zip and what he does far better than Henne or Booty is square his hips before his release.

He struggled during 11-on-11 drills, but most of that can be attributed to the fact his center, Chad Reinhart from Northern Iowa, could not deliver the snap consistently. Overall Flacco looked the most polished of all the quarterbacks Monday.


Running Back/Fullback:

Dantrell Savage (Oklahoma State) – The 5-foot-9 back had a rough day. He dropped a lot of short passes and had a hard time finding the hole during running plays. Savage has speed, but his size will be an issue at the next level.

Justin Forsett (California) – Another player with size issues. He’s an inch shorter than Savage but had better footwork, better vision and caught the ball like he wants to play in the NFL next season. On one reception he nearly broke linebacker Jordan Dizon’s (Colorado) legs. Dizon wound up doing the splits after Forsett cut back to avoid him.


Wide Receiver/Tight End:

Jordy Nelson (Kansas State) – Caught everything in sight, ran crisp routes and showed off some speed. His ability to catch balls in traffic was impressive. One of the few wide receivers who got open consistently and really stood out.

Adarius Bowman (Oklahoma State) – Might have been the most disappointing player Monday. Showed no speed and no ability to break away from the line of scrimmage, and was also lackluster in his route running. On one throw, Bowman didn’t even try, wound up turning around late and the ball was nearly intercepted. For someone who has a world of talent, he played like an undrafted free agent.

Martin Rucker (Missouri) – After dropping his first pass, Rucker rebounded to beat everyone like a drum the rest of the afternoon. It didn’t matter if it was a linebacker, safety or cornerback, they were all helpless with Rucker on the field. He’s more physical than I realized and was one of the stars for the North offense. He doesn’t need much coaching, either. His game is NFL ready.


Offensive Line:

Carl Nicks (Nebraska) – The only lineman who really stood out for me on the North. Nicks footwork was solid and he did a great job playing left tackle. He needs to learn to back peddle and stand his ground better as he’ll be playing against some of the NFL’s premier pass rushers, but he was by far the best offensive tackle on the field.

The knock on Nicks at Nebraska has been his lethargic practice routines. Something got into him today, however, and at 345 pounds and standing 6-foot-5, if he plays this well all week he’ll be a mid second-round guy in April.


Cornerback/Safety:

DeJuan Tribble (Boston College) – He stands a shade under 5-foot-10 and reminds me of PacMan Jones, but isn’t as fast. Tribble's problem at Boston College was the fact he didn’t want to hit anyone. You can’t blame him because of his size, but his footwork is outstanding.

Terrell Thomas (USC) – He’s five inches taller than Tribble but was all over the field. He needs to bulk up some, but I thought he really stood out. His footwork is solid and he back peddles and turns better than most of the other corners.

Tom Zbikowski (Notre Dame) – Another player under six feet tall, but aggressive. He’s a head hunter and seems to be one of those overachievers that will end up playing on Sundays. I’ve not seen much of him, but Monday he was giving Rudy-like effort.

Charles Godfrey (Iowa) – Of all the cornerbacks I watched Monday, Godfrey had the best footwork and closing speed. In drills he was the sharpest of the bunch and even though he’s a bit small, he plays big.


Linebacker:

Shawn Crable (Michigan) - One of the bigger linebackers, standing 6-foot-5, but has serious game. He plays a bit too upright but he can close and hit. Crable also appeared to be in tremendous physical shape and I think he’s someone to watch this week. He was the better than any linebacker I saw today.


Defensive Tackle:

Sedrick Ellis (USC) – I’m surprised he showed up this week because LSU’s Glen Dorsey decided to pass on the Senior Bowl, but Ellis was amazing. He could not be stopped. Nobody on the field Monday afternoon had an answer for him.

To me he is the most NFL-ready defensive player at the Senior Bowl, and I say that even without seeing the South yet. He’d be a bright light in the middle of KC’s defensive line next season.

http://profootballexperts.scout.com/a.z?s=211&p=2&c=722118


SOUTH SQUAD
Senior Bowl Monday practice report


Colt Brennan (Ronen Zilberman/AP Photo) By Matthew Postins
bucsblitz@mac.com
Posted Jan 21, 2008


The South team received its first on-field exposure to the San Francisco 49ers coaching staff and game plan for the Senior Bowl on Monday at Fairhope Stadium in Fairhope, Ala. In this exclusive practice report, see how players like Colt Brennan, Andre Caldwell and Marcus Harrison fared in their first workouts.


Tennessee quarterback Erik Ainge said he knew at least two weeks ago that there was a chance he might play in the Senior Bowl, and learned two days before Monday’s workout with the South team that he would play in place of Louisville quarterback Brian Brohm.

Oddly enough, he looked the best of the South quarterbacks on Monday, at least to these set of eyes.


Tennessee quarterback Erik Ainge was a late selection for the Senior Bowl. (Chris O’Meara/AP photo)
Ainge (6-foot-5, 215 pounds) is the most traditional of the three quarterbacks, a drop-back passer with a quick, overhand delivery. Ainge’s best work came in the seven-on-seven passing drills, as he connected several times with Florida’s Andre Caldwell and Alabama’s D.J. Hall. He struggled a bit in the final 11-on-11 drills of the day, throwing behind Texas wide receiver Limas Sweed on a medium post route.

There was definite contrast between Ainge, Kentucky’s Andre Woodson and Hawaii’s Colt Brennan. Woodson (6-foot-4, 220) seemed bigger in pads than his frame would suggest. His delivery was more of a three-quarters style and he certainly had more mobility than Ainge or Brennan. He showed off that mobility and his passing touch during the 11-on-11 drills. He rolled to his right and, with a defender in his face, tossed a 15-yard floater to Tennessee TE Brad Cottam.

Woodson’s delivery reminded me of former Eagles quarterback Randall Cunningham — long and full. The windup seemed slow but he released the ball quick once he reached the top.

Most eyes were on Brennan, who at times threw almost sidearm but was pretty accurate. He did flutter one pass during 11-on-11, but overall he hit most of his receivers. That included squeezing in a nice pass to Caldwell coming across the middle in 7-on-7.

Brennan talked about his weight after practice. He weighed in at 185 during the Monday morning weigh-in. He said the reason for his drop in weight was a stomach virus that hit him last week.

“I thought I was eating enough to put the weight back on, but I guess with all the traveling that I was doing last week I didn’t,” Brennan said. “What I’m hoping is that by my pro day that I’ll be back to the weight I want to be.”

Brennan said he wanted to be back to at least 195 pounds by then.

Brennan (6-foot-3, 190 pounds) didn’t seem to have problems working under center on Monday. All his snap exchanges were clean and he seemed to see the field well dropping back.



Georgia Tech running back Tashard Choice (5-foot-11, 207 pounds) appeared to have the best day of the backs on Monday. Choice showed off his cutting ability on a screen pass from Brennan out in the flat, juking LSU linebacker Ali Highsmith and running up the sideline. Choice also broke off a long run to the opposite side, running off the left tackle.

Tulane’s Matt Forte (6-foot-1, 219 pounds) is slightly bigger but no less quick than Choice. Forte didn’t catch many passes out of the backfield, but did break off a couple of long runs on the left side, too.

Both backs feel they have something to prove this week.

“This is a great chance for me to show all of these coaches that even though I come from Tulane that I can compete with these guys from the bigger schools,” Forte said. “I think my running style is my own. It’s smooth. I’m not really a guy who rushes to find the hole. I’m a very patient runner. I take my time finding the hole and I explode through it.”

Forte did exactly that on a couple of occasions on Monday.



Caldwell, who missed nearly three games with leg injuries during the 2007 season, appeared to have the best day on Monday among the receivers.

It should be noted that all the quarterbacks and wide receivers struggled with their timing, and given that it was their first practice of the week that wasn’t unexpected.

But Caldwell (6-foot, 203 pounds) showed his speed and physicality during, of all things, gunner drills for special teams. Caldwell broke away physically from his defensive back on two occasions during those drills. Along with the nice catch over the middle from Brennan, Caldwell caught a short comeback pass and spun past LSU’s Chevis Jackson for what would have been a long gain down the sideline. He definitely showed off his 4.4 speed and his ability to catch passes in different parts of the field.

Of the other receivers, LSU’s Early Doucet (6-foot, 211 pounds) ran some nice deep routes, even though the ball didn’t always get to him. He also did work on punt returns, as he’s seeking to enhance his first-round prospects with special teams work. Alabama’s D.J. Hall (6-foot-2, 189 pounds) also showed flashes of physicality on his routes. He’s a leaner body than both Doucet and Caldwell, but worked to get good position, especially over the middle, on a couple of catches.

Finally, Texas’ Limas Sweed (6-foot-5, 220 pounds), didn’t appear to do that much during workouts on Monday. Given that he was only medically cleared to play a week ago after a wrist injury, coaches may be working him in slowly.



The offensive linemen worked most by themselves on Monday, except for 11-on-11. But one lineman that impressed me was Vanderbilt’s Chris Williams (6-foot-6, 317 pounds). He’s a massive body, but he’s lean, has long arms and moved well laterally. He did a nice job during one-on-one drills handling Georgia Tech end Darrell Robertson (6-foot-4, 245), a player some project as a 3-4 pass rusher. With those big arms, he’s going to be capable of getting separation as a left tackle on most NFL defensive ends.



I spent a good portion of the day watching the defensive ends and tackles. The Niners defensive line coach really focused on making sure the ends and tackles were positioning their hands correctly (thumbs up) when they made contact and how they used their inside arms to create leverage (elbows close to the body and under the hand).


Arkansas DT Marcus Harrison. (AP photo)
Arkansas tackle Marcus Harrison (6-foot-3, 310 pounds) looked imposing in pads and appeared to have plenty of upper body strength. He worked against Robertson in defensive line drills and those were probably the best battles of the day. Robertson used his legs to create leverage, but struggled at times with keeping his inside hand positioned correctly. Still, he’s quicker than he looks and he did a find job of occupying offensive linemen in the one-one-drills with them. He could be a nose in a 3-4 or an under tackle in a 4-3.

Robertson showed off his quickness on the edge, beating at least one offensive tackle during one-on-ones. The Niners coaches liked his initial contact with the blocker but continued to work on his hands. He’s another guy many teams are looking at as a pass rusher in a 3-4 defense.

Florida State defensive tackle Andre Fluellen struggled with losing his legs during one-on-one drills, as his right leg swung out as he tried to gain position on the blocker.

Texas A&M tackle Red Bryant didn’t look impressive until he started working against the offensive guards and centers. Shaded over the center’s right shoulder, Bryant (6-foot-5, 329 pounds) looked quicker and more disruptive than I expected. He has the physical strength to overwhelm inside blockers and he worked with the first team defensive line on Monday.



Finally the best-looking defensive back during practice was Alabama’s Simeon Castille (6-foot, 190 pounds). He broke up two passes on the day, one on the sideline when he gained inside position on the receiver and one on a medium post as he stayed stride-for-stride with Hall. He’s a lean, quick defensive back who looked like he has the upper body strength to play close to the line. Given his coverage ability and size, he seemed versatile enough to play corner or safety.

http://profootballexperts.scout.com/a.z?s=211&p=2&c=722101

Elway777
01-22-2008, 04:49 AM
http://www.gbnreport.com/seniorbowlreport.htm more serior bowl news

plummershelper
01-22-2008, 08:21 AM
Broncos seen talking to. . .

Jamar Adams
DeJuan Tribble
Chad Henne
Shawn Crable

And yeah, Drago kicks ass.

Hey Req, Here's a great video of your man Drago in action
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X98vSWicSec

Drek
01-22-2008, 09:30 AM
I wouldn't complain if we took Ellis at 12, Crable at 42, and Zbikowski with one of our 4th rounders. We'd need to get a free agent RT and bet on Harris or Pears being a good LT, but our defense would get some serious toughness and fire.

bpc
01-22-2008, 10:09 AM
There are a crap load of LB's I like here. I'm clicking on the practice tape right now...

You know with Ellis that you'll be getting a worker, that will bring it every play. Some people were trying to compare him to Warren Sapp though... I wouldn't go that far. He has very good game, tireless motor, especially chasing down the LOS, great hands, nice snap off the ball. I still worry about him playing anything but the 3 technique on first or second down. I don't see that ability to anchor like some teams will want. He's a finesse type pass rusher.

I love the senior bowl week! Let's find us some prospects!

Rohirrim
01-22-2008, 10:29 AM
The most frustrating aspect of Monday's practice was the Oakland Raiders’ coaching staff. They did a poor job of instructing the players - when a mistake was made, sometimes it was ignored. There also wasn't any flow and sometimes plays continued even after the ball carrier was stopped, a good way to get someone hurt.

Most of the scouts in attendance shared my opinion, and many left the practice field in disbelief.
Man! What a pathetic organization. They've become the laughing stock of the NFL.

Sedrick Ellis (USC) – I’m surprised he showed up this week because LSU’s Glen Dorsey decided to pass on the Senior Bowl, but Ellis was amazing. He could not be stopped. Nobody on the field Monday afternoon had an answer for him.

To me he is the most NFL-ready defensive player at the Senior Bowl, and I say that even without seeing the South yet. He’d be a bright light in the middle of KC’s defensive line next season.
Trade up and get him, Broncos. Make a move for a playmaker.

The offensive linemen worked most by themselves on Monday, except for 11-on-11. But one lineman that impressed me was Vanderbilt’s Chris Williams (6-foot-6, 317 pounds). He’s a massive body, but he’s lean, has long arms and moved well laterally. He did a nice job during one-on-one drills handling Georgia Tech end Darrell Robertson (6-foot-4, 245), a player some project as a 3-4 pass rusher. With those big arms, he’s going to be capable of getting separation as a left tackle on most NFL defensive ends.
If the Broncos could walk away from this draft with Sedrick and Chris, they could close up shop and I'd call it a good day.

socalorado
01-22-2008, 10:35 AM
Beau Bell at SAM? Pfft, Put him at MLB at move DJ back to WILL! Please!
Guy is a beast!

And for any of you wondering what to do about the Safety position.

this guy can do it all! DEN needs to find a way to get a higher 2nd and get him.

Terrell Thomas (USC) – He’s five inches taller than Tribble but was all over the field. He needs to bulk up some, but I thought he really stood out. His footwork is solid and he back peddles and turns better than most of the other corners.
Terrell Thomas, USC
Height: 6-1. Weight: 200.
40 Time: 4.40.
Projected Round: 2.
A jack of all trades, Terrell Thomas can play corner, safety and return specialist. He also returned a blocked field goal for a touchdown in 2006. The leader of USC's locker room.
HUH. Jeez, he can play safety, return punts and kick-offs AND hes a leader.
Last time i checked those were a couple areas of need in DEN.

bpc
01-22-2008, 10:37 AM
I'm watching film from yesterday... here are some of my thoughts on it...

Damn Cherilus is big. I'm not going to lie, Gosder had a crappy senior campaign in my opinion. One of the things that he has done well with is coming out and fighting his ass off in pass blocking. He is a big strong guy, he's been moving his feet unlike this year when he got beat, names again VaTech, and he has a powerful punch. He needs to do this all week, have a good game and time well at the combine to get his stock back up. All that being said, I still don't think he is a LT.

Beau Bell did not look good at all in pass coverage. I've been very high on this guy but his hips looks real stiff!

Jordan Dizon looked just the opposite... flowed smoothly, loose hips, can turn and run. The guy was very impressive. GO CU!

ON the WR front I thought that Adarius Bowman really struggled locating the football today, I noticed at least two drops on TV.

Eddie Royal of VaTech looks like a great route runner and when he gets an inch, he has the speed to seperate.

Roy Shuening and Andrew Pollack are low rep guys, non sexy picks but both of these guys are going to be 10 year starters in the NFL. Very good players, great technique, excellent motors and both love the game of football.

Kentwan Balmer is a guy that i've been hyping all year as a "Bates" style DT. Probably the best run stopper after Dorsey. I was surprised today to see him doing so well with his pass rush. He was really impressive on that front.

bpc
01-22-2008, 10:40 AM
BTW, Kellen Davis and Owen Schmidt should be wearing Orange and Blue next year... just saying. Both are going to be great.

Requiem
01-22-2008, 10:42 AM
Broncos TV had interviews with DJ Hall (one of my favorite receivers) and Limas Sweed, not to mentioned Jacob Hester.

Rohirrim
01-22-2008, 10:47 AM
Broncos TV had interviews with DJ Hall (one of my favorite receivers) and Limas Sweed, not to mentioned Jacob Hester.

I'd love to see the Broncos get Hester. He'd be a great player to have on the team - in the locker room, on the practice field, on STs, when you absolutely must have that 3rd and 1. The guy is a bring-your-lunch-pail football player. You've got to have guys like that on your team.

The other guy I'd like to see the Broncos pick up is Wesley Woodyard, from Kentucky. Make him into a SS. When you lead the SEC in tackles, that's saying something.

bpc
01-22-2008, 10:49 AM
I'd love to see the Broncos get Hester. He'd be a great player to have on the team - in the locker room, on the practice field, on STs, when you absolutely must have that 3rd and 1. The guy is a bring-your-lunch-pail football player. You've got to have guys like that on your team.

The other guy I'd like to see the Broncos pick up is Wesley Woodyard, from Kentucky. Make him into a SS. When you lead the SEC in tackles, that's saying something.

I had been thinking the same thing. The guy has insticts like crazy and I think he could really be a nice player to groom and replace John Lynch with as the 8th guy in the box.

Northman
01-22-2008, 10:50 AM
Im watching the senior bowl practices and a guy that is flying under the radar a bit is DT Kentwan Balmer out of North Carolina. Guy has some nice speed and power (obviously this is just practice but these guys are really going at it) and is thought to be the third best DT behind Dorsey and Ellis. Something to think about. :)

socalorado
01-22-2008, 10:52 AM
I had been thinking the same thing. The guy has insticts like crazy and I think he could really be a nice player to groom and replace John Lynch with as the 8th guy in the box.

I'm down and DEN has a couple 4ths.

Wesley Woodyard, SS, Kentucky
Height: 6-1. Weight: 212.
40 Time: 4.41.
Projected Round: 4.
Recruited as a safety, moved to linebacker but will probably have to change back into a strong safety in the NFL. Dazzled everyone by running a 4.41 at Kentucky's 2007 Pro Day. That may have moved him from the seventh round to the early part of the third. An instinctive player who is always around the football.

Cool name too! "take him to the woodyard! Wesley!"

Requiem
01-22-2008, 10:54 AM
Mason said that Jim Ryan (LB Coach) and Ronnie Bradford (Secondary Coach) made the trip with the team officials (scouts) as well. I wonder if that means a lil' somefin.

I wish I could see the EFFIN PRACTICES.

If someone finds an online link, please give it to me.

bpc
01-22-2008, 10:57 AM
We are definitely going to get some talent in round 4 with our ammunition.

There is a lot of talent on the field for the senior bowl... man. Talent evaluators heaven!

Requiem
01-22-2008, 11:00 AM
We are definitely going to get some talent in round 4 with our ammunition.

There is a lot of talent on the field for the senior bowl... man. Talent evaluators heaven!

Too bad my boss wouldn't let me take a week off to go, and the fact that I'm poor doesn't help either.

What's great is I'm transferring halls this next year to a guy who is a football nut, and can appreciate my desire for such a thing. That, and I'll be making money on the side with my job so if I save up, I'll have enough to go.

God, I'm excited.

Requiem
01-22-2008, 11:01 AM
Oh, and I agree with you man.

Our fourth rounders are going to be like high thirds with the talent available, and our fifths, like fourth rounders.

I still want to find a way to get a third, or another pick or so.

This is gonna be epiccccccccccc.

bpc
01-22-2008, 11:04 AM
Oh, and I agree with you man.

Our fourth rounders are going to be like high thirds with the talent available, and our fifths, like fourth rounders.

I still want to find a way to get a third, or another pick or so.

This is gonna be epiccccccccccc.

It better be. This is the year we have to be perfect with our pics in the draft. We have so much ground to make up to catch the Chargers.

Oh Req BTW, i'll be in Indy 2/20-2/24. Got a couple interviews. :)

Requiem
01-22-2008, 11:13 AM
That's awesome man. I was talking to Med, and he gave me some helpful tips about getting out there, and said it's possible that they're opening the workouts to the general public; and since I don't have credentials, that'd benefit me - but during the time of the combine; I have 3 tests - and obviously I can't miss 'em.

What's good about the Senior Bowl scheduling is that I can take the week off and not miss any tests early in my semester.

PM me about this interview stuff, I'm sort of curious.

Anyways, I have to go get ready (just got back from Con Law) and interview some up and coming RA's. . .

I get to do my own scouting report on young buck kids trying to take my job.

Should be fun.

Haha.

Take it easy ya'll. . .

Oh, BTW - my blog (www.broncosdraft.wordpress.com) will be updating tidbits about Broncos information guys like Mason and Wright put out there, etc. So it's in one place for all you guys.

I'll be updating as much as possible.

Take care guys!

Elway777
01-22-2008, 11:14 AM
Beau Bell at SAM? Pfft, Put him at MLB at move DJ back to WILL! Please!
Guy is a beast!

And for any of you wondering what to do about the Safety position.

this guy can do it all! DEN needs to find a way to get a higher 2nd and get him.

Terrell Thomas (USC) – He’s five inches taller than Tribble but was all over the field. He needs to bulk up some, but I thought he really stood out. His footwork is solid and he back peddles and turns better than most of the other corners.
Terrell Thomas, USC
Height: 6-1. Weight: 200.
40 Time: 4.40.
Projected Round: 2.
A jack of all trades, Terrell Thomas can play corner, safety and return specialist. He also returned a blocked field goal for a touchdown in 2006. The leader of USC's locker room.
HUH. Jeez, he can play safety, return punts and kick-offs AND hes a leader.
Last time i checked those were a couple areas of need in DEN. Could be a good second round pickup if the Broncos trade foxworth.

Requiem
01-22-2008, 12:45 PM
Poster on BF states we talked to Simeon Castille, CB/FS. Makes sense. . . duh. :D (This poster is live in Mobile!)

lex
01-22-2008, 01:01 PM
People are saying good things about Cherilous. He was the first person mentioned by Laurence Jackson when asked who impressed him...another one was Roy Schuening.

Randy Cross likes Pollak but doesnt see anyone suited to play left tackle right away. I think Randy Cross may have sniffed a lot of glue in college though.

Sirius keeps asking guys about Nelson. I wish theyd stop hyping him. They also dont like Flacco.

Northman
01-22-2008, 01:40 PM
People are saying good things about Cherilous. He was the first person mentioned by Laurence Jackson when asked who impressed him...another one was Roy Schuening.

Randy Cross likes Pollak but doesnt see anyone suited to play left tackle right away. I think Randy Cross may have sniffed a lot of glue in college though.

Sirius keeps asking guys about Nelson. I wish theyd stop hyping him. They also dont like Flacco.


From what i saw he was doing quite well.

oubronco
01-22-2008, 02:18 PM
Updated: January 22, 2008, 12:28 PM ET

MOBILE, Ala. -- The early storyline of the 2008 Senior Bowl is the surprising rash of last-minute defections by many of the top players. Quarterbacks Matt Ryan (own decision) and Brian Brohm (lingering ankle injury) are the most high-profile prospects to back out. Auburn DE/OLB Quentin Groves, South Florida CB Mike Jenkins, Notre Dame TE John Carlson, Miami (Fla.) LB Tavares Gooden and LSU S Craig Steltz were some of the top talents at other positions noticeably absent from Monday's morning weigh-in and afternoon practice, although Gooden took part in the weigh-in but did not practice.

Player and game representatives have been busy running heavy duty spin control, but there isn't as public relations firm in the country capable of selling NFL brass on this year's crop of talent.

Sure, NFL teams would be gathered here regardless and most use this week for administrative purposes, including draft meetings and interviewing potential hires. Plus, there is still far more talent on hand than can be seen at any other game of its kind. But that's not the point. As far as college football all-star games are concerned, the Senior Bowl has set the bar extraordinarily high. For the first time in a long time, it has failed to meet the standard.

The most noticeable position affected is quarterback. Michigan's Chad Henne was sensational Monday and stands to benefit greatly because of his overall passing efficiency. Kentucky's Andre Woodson showcased his rifle of an arm but understandably struggled with his timing during the first day of practice. Otherwise, there wasn't much positive to say about the performances turned in by Colt Brennan (Hawaii), John David Booty (USC), Joe Flacco (Delaware) and Erik Ainge (Tennessee). Brennan had toughest first day. His erratic passing performance in practice was preceded by him tipping the scale at a measly 185 pounds during the morning's weigh-in.

It has undoubtedly been a scramble to fill out the North and South rosters. The replacements we know of so far include Flacco and Ainge, LB Gary Guyton (Georgia Tech) and DE Kendall Langford (Hampton).

The North and South teams practiced simultaneously at separate locations on Monday. Moving forward, both teams will practice at Ladd-Peebles Stadium -- the North in the morning, followed by the South in the afternoon. Here's a breakdown of Monday's highs and lows:

Around the South practice
• Texas WR Limas Sweed is back at full throttle following a wrist injury that cut his senior season short. He showed no lingering affects of the injury when catching the ball and looked able to separate versus man-to-man coverage with ease. What impresses us most is Sweed's body control as a bigger receiver (6-foot-4, 215 pounds). He does an excellent job of using his frame to shield the defender from the ball in the air. From the early looks of it, Sweed could emerge as one of the big winners from this year's Senior Bowl process. • Sweed and LSU's Early Doucet stand out as the top two receivers on the South roster. We still have questions regarding Doucet's top-end speed and toughness, both of which will be put to the test in full-pad practices the next two days. Doucet was dominant in one-on-one and seven-on-seven sessions, though. He displayed the quickness and fluid hips to consistently separate from man-coverage and looked extremely smooth when catching the ball away from his frame and/or on the run.

• Florida WR Andre Caldwell also stood out for his agility and speed during pass-catching drills. Durability issues and a deep rotation of receivers prevented Caldwell from putting up monster numbers in Florida's spread system. While he has room to improve when it comes to dropping his weight in-and-out of breaks, Caldwell displays explosive quickness and strong hands when snatching the ball on the move. Caldwell could be a real steal in the third-round range of a deep receiver draft.

• On the flipside, Louisville's Harry Douglas and Houston's Donnie Avery need to rebound from tough debuts on Monday. Douglas seemed to be fighting the ball, which is unlike him. He dropped at least three passes we saw during the session. Avery caught the ball well when given the opportunity but his inability to separate from man-coverage was alarming. Avery's blazing speed is apparent, but he hasn't learned to channel it as a route runner. He gears down too much going into his cuts, which gives defensive backs time to recover and drive on the ball in the air. It will be interesting to see if Avery, one of the class's fastest-rising prospects heading into this week, winds up getting exposed versus better cover corners this week.

• Speaking of which, Troy CB Leodis McKelvin's draft stock has experienced a meteoric rise the past few months. While his quick feet and explosive burst were easily distinguished during drills, McKelvin's ball skills left much to be desired. In addition to dropping two potential interceptions, he muffed as punt during special teams drills. It will be interesting to see if McKelvin can shake off the rust and finish the week strong.

• LSU OLB Ali Highsmith turned in a solid day's work and appears to be one of the most complete linebackers here. He started strong, showing quick feet running through bags during individual drills and never looked back. During nine-on-seven drills, Highsmith located the ball quickly and took sound pursuit angles. Highsmith was just as impressive dropping into coverage. He showed great awareness and got good depth when asked to drop into zone coverage while showing he's also quick enough to match up with most backs. However, one of Highsmith's biggest weakness is he doesn't control blockers as well as scouts would like and it showed up one play in particular today. Arkansas FB Peyton Hillis sealed Highsmith inside paving the way for the back to turn the corner and break a long run.

• Georgia Tech ILB Philip Wheeler had his ups and downs Monday. Wheeler is a tough and relentless run stopper who can shed blockers quickly, so it came as little surprise that he was in on multiple tackles during nine-on-seven drills. The problem is he looked lost and struggled in coverage. He got caught out of position at times and looked stiff trying to match up with backs in man coverage.

• Tennessee TE Brad Cottam started the week off on the right foot. He ran precise routes that allowed him to separate from man coverage and showed the ability to locate soft spots when he reads zone coverage. Just as importantly, Cottam caught the ball with his hands away from his frame and made several catches during the seven-on-seven periods.

• Tulane RB Matt Forte's blend of versatility and size opened some eyes at practice. The 222-pound back read his blocks well and is tough to bring down, making him an effective between-the-tackles runner, but he's showing he's fast enough to turn the corner as well. In addition, Forte looks like he can make an impact in the passing game. The crispness of his cuts and the separation he created working against the linebackers during one-on-one drills was impressive. Forte also showed the ability to turn on the jets and track the ball downfield when he beat South Florida ILB Ben Moffitt deep for a reception.

• Hillis is another South back that made some noise. By staying low and taking sound angles to his blocks, Hillis did a nice job of getting into position. Even more noteworthy, he kept his feet moving and sustained his blocks once he locked onto the defender. Hillis isn't a one-dimensional blocker either. He appeared comfortable slipping out into the flat, caught the ball well and showed he can break the occasional tackle after the catch.

oubronco
01-22-2008, 02:19 PM
Around the North practice

• Maybe the best attraction of the North practice was West Virginia FB Owen Schmitt. You wouldn't think that a semi-contact practice would show off the talents of a big, physical, mauling, blocking fullback and early on, it didn't as Schmitt showed that he is not a natural hand catcher and struggles to flip his hips in space and quickly get upfield. But the bruiser quickly became the North's quarterbacks' favorite target as a dump-off option. He made a nice catch during the seven-on-seven drills and several during the team period, including taking hits that twice took his helmet off to expose his Mohawk haircut. Since the quarterbacks did not yet have a feel for the deep passing game or great timing yet with their deeper options, Schmitt was the benefactor. • Iowa CB Charles Godfrey showed excellent quickness and was sudden coming out of his breaks. He plants and drives well and has the long speed and size to keep up with most NFL wide receivers. He competes hard and brought a lot of energy to this first practice. He did have one mishap though when he fell down awkwardly in the open field after failing to get a hand on Justin Forsett, who demonstrated excellent make-you-miss ability and overall quickness for the entire practice.

• Michigan State TE Kellen Davis has some serious potential. He has a great build and is a very fluid with his movements. He has the chance to develop into a feared target. However, Davis still has a long way to go. He doesn't find and snatch the ball consistently and his ball skills and ability to adjust to the football is questionable at this point. If he dedicates himself to working on the nuances of playing tight end, Davis could make a real impact at the next level. But it will not come overnight.

• In a shocking contrast, P Mike Dragosavich is nearly a foot taller than his special teams counterpart, K Alexis Serna. Obviously these two spent a lot of time together during the bulk of practice and they look like the stars of "Twins" sequel. When they got their time to shine, Serna came through on his several field goal attempts, while Dragosavich's performance left much to be desired. Dragosavich has very long kicking levers and is too deliberate in getting his punts away. He also didn't demonstrate very good control with his punts.

SpringStein
01-22-2008, 05:07 PM
Beau Bell injured - no word on how severe. This from GBN:

Unfortunately, though, Bell went down with an apparent knee injury late in the practice and while he was able to walk off the field on his own, the training staff was obviously concerned.

Bronco LB 59
01-22-2008, 06:04 PM
• Tulane RB Matt Forte's blend of versatility and size opened some eyes at practice. The 222-pound back read his blocks well and is tough to bring down, making him an effective between-the-tackles runner, but he's showing he's fast enough to turn the corner as well. In addition, Forte looks like he can make an impact in the passing game. The crispness of his cuts and the separation he created working against the linebackers during one-on-one drills was impressive. Forte also showed the ability to turn on the jets and track the ball downfield when he beat South Florida ILB Ben Moffitt deep for a reception.

That sounds similar to what the Broncos value in a running back.

Elway777
01-23-2008, 02:50 AM
http://nfldraftguys.com/features/08_senior_bowl_day_2.php

Elway777
01-23-2008, 03:11 AM
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/seniorbowl2.html day 2 at senior bowl

oubronco
01-23-2008, 10:09 AM
Philip Wheeler, ILB, Georgia Tech – Playing like a man possessed, on one play, hurtled himself at the RB like Lawrence Taylor. Has added 10 pounds of muscle with no quickness or explosion lost.

Now that's how you play LB Now that's how you do it

lex
01-23-2008, 06:52 PM
Has anyone else been listening to the morning coverage on Sirius (i recommend getting a free 3 day trial for this)? Its rampant USC homerism all the time. I realize they have good players but enough is enough. They had Adibi on and apparently Sam Baker made a nice play and they asked him, "hey, what did you think of Sam Baker...pretty awesom huh". Then some other time this morning they had Sam's father on, followed by Pete Carroll. Enough already.

Still theres some good info though.

Requiem
01-23-2008, 07:48 PM
I told you Philip Wheeler was the TRUTH.

elsid13
01-23-2008, 08:21 PM
Funny because when I watch Singletary seems to be riding him pretty hard.

Requiem
01-23-2008, 08:26 PM
Funny because when I watch Singletary seems to be riding him pretty hard.

I've read nothing but good reports about him. People seem to be excited about his play.

elsid13
01-23-2008, 08:43 PM
I've read nothing but good reports about him. People seem to be excited about his play.

It not that he's playing bad, but rather Singletary continue to correct his techinque. At appears to be the same stuff - over and over. Mostly about keeping his head up and knees bent.


That not a bad sign, since Singletary did the same thing with Willis last year too.

oubronco
01-23-2008, 09:20 PM
It not that he's playing bad, but rather Singletary continue to correct his techinque. At appears to be the same stuff - over and over. Mostly about keeping his head up and knees bent.


That not a bad sign, since Singletary did the same thing with Willis last year too.

wouldn't you just love to have singeltary for LB coach

Elway777
01-24-2008, 01:28 AM
http://nfldraftguys.com/features/08_senior_bowl_day_3.php day 3

That One Guy
01-24-2008, 08:19 AM
A couple of things from the Day 3 write up that suprised me:

Chris Williams, OT, Vanderbilt Establishing himself as the dominant offensive lineman at this game. Drew oohs and aahs from fans and coaches alike. Got in a fight with Red Bryant he was doing the ?ax on wax off to deflect Bryant? haymakers. Williams seemed flustered on the next play, but shook it off and dominated again by the time it was his turn again in the pit. Hard to imagine him falling out of the first round now. It would not shock us to see him become the first lineman off the board and a top 10 pick.

And this was just impressive, some of that strength we heard about:

Sedrick Ellis, DT, U.S.C. Star of the pit in North practice. First step quickness that trumped any interior lineman he faced. Also stood up two defensive lineman, one with each arm, during the drill when he was simulating being an offensive lineman. Looked like a top 10 pick today, but not even a first rounder earlier in the week.

Requiem
01-24-2008, 09:12 AM
Williams top ten? I'd be floored if that happened.

Billy Clyde Puckett
01-24-2008, 09:23 AM
[QUOTE=cah412;1863104]A couple of things from the Day 3 write up that suprised me:

Chris Williams, OT, Vanderbilt Establishing himself as the dominant offensive lineman at this game. Drew oohs and aahs from fans and coaches alike. Got in a fight with Red Bryant he was doing the ?ax on wax off to deflect Bryant? haymakers. Williams seemed flustered on the next play, but shook it off and dominated again by the time it was his turn again in the pit. Hard to imagine him falling out of the first round now. It would not shock us to see him become the first lineman off the board and a top 10 pick.

I've been telling you guys about Williams for over a year. Not only does he have the physical skills, but his most significant trait is his head. He is very smart and a great leader. I don't expect him to be the first tackle taken, but, if he remains healthy, he should be one of the most reliable, steady players in the NFL.

lex
01-24-2008, 10:04 AM
Williams has been the most impressive candidate to play left tackle by far and Mike Mayock has been admitting as much...better than Cherilous who he admits is a right tackle. Yet, he always has Cherilous ahead of Williams on his top 5 tackles...isnt there supposed to be a premium on left tackles?

BTW, Trevor Laws has been very impressive too. So had DeMario Pressley and Dre Moore. Ive been a little disappointed in Schuening. He's getting walked back a lot. He did great in his bowl game against Dre Moore though.

ohiobronco2
01-24-2008, 10:23 AM
Williams has been the most impressive candidate to play left tackle by far and Mike Mayock has been admitting as much...better than Cherilous who he admits is a right tackle. Yet, he always has Cherilous ahead of Williams on his top 5 tackles...isnt there supposed to be a premium on left tackles?

BTW, Trevor Laws has been very impressive too. So had DeMario Pressley and Dre Moore. Ive been a little disappointed in Schuening. He's getting walked back a lot. He did great in his bowl game against Dre Moore though.

I keep hearing this and I disagree. He had plenty of help against Dre on the O Line.

Northman
01-24-2008, 11:02 AM
Vatech's Robert Royal's stock is going up much as i thought it would.

Drek
01-24-2008, 11:04 AM
A couple of things from the Day 3 write up that suprised me:

Chris Williams, OT, Vanderbilt Establishing himself as the dominant offensive lineman at this game. Drew oohs and aahs from fans and coaches alike. Got in a fight with Red Bryant he was doing the ?ax on wax off to deflect Bryant? haymakers. Williams seemed flustered on the next play, but shook it off and dominated again by the time it was his turn again in the pit. Hard to imagine him falling out of the first round now. It would not shock us to see him become the first lineman off the board and a top 10 pick.

Seems a little early to be crowning him a potential top pick/first OL taken thanks to workouts that Long, Clady, and Oher didn't even show up for.

So he's more impressive than Sam Baker in the pit, wow. Baker is an overrated finesse blocker as it is. Good player? Sure, but he's not a franchise LT type.

Williams has a bucket of potential but this is just standard pre-draft hyperbole.

Elway777
01-24-2008, 07:51 PM
http://www.gbnreport.com/seniorbowlwrap.html

bpc
01-27-2008, 06:49 AM
I'll just post randomly here about the things I liked and disliked:

From an offensive tackle standpoint, I think both Chris Williams and Sam Baker showed that they have the feet to be LT's in this league. Baker still needs to work on functional strength and I don't think he'll ever be a pro bowler but the guy would be a good system player for us if he fell to us in round 2.

Chris Williams problem is his short arms... he just looks awkward out there with them. However aside from that I loved his footwork, his technique and he was great at walling off defenders. He hardly ever gave ground and he showed the ability to get to the next level on run plays. I don't think he has dominant drive capability in him, he'll just be holding an edge and walling people off. He definitely helped his stock.

I knew a couple of things going into this week about Sedric Ellis... one, the guy has a great motor. Not many like him in the NFL right now where they just keep coming after teams play after play. He does that. He also has great pass rush moves and a quick penetration step. It drives the interior defenders nuts. His leverage allows him to get under most blockers pads and track into the backfield. With all my expectations for what he has done, he found a way to surpass them on the field this week. The guy is going to be a heck of a player and i'm just hoping that he finds a way to float by Oakland and KC who should be picking 3-5.

Lavelle Hawkins has really marched his way into the 1st day of the draft. The guy has it all... decent size, great speed, and he can star in offensive/special team packages. A thing that is not really talked about with his is that he has a great football acumen and savy. It's just fun to watch him play football because he does the right things with the ball in his hands. He really boosted his stock way up this week. He should have a nice career in the NFL.

It was really fun to watch Chris Williams and Mike McGlynn working next to each other for the South Oline. They did a nice job pass protecting from what I saw, and also zone blocking together. McGlynn reminds me of a taller Dan Neil. He just fights out on the field.

I want to call Carl Nicks a definite sleeper who could be very good but he's already been discovered. The guy has a real chance.

Godser Cherilus doesn't impress me at all. He's all potential. He pass blocks like a top.

Matt Forte reminds me of Ryan Grant from Green Bay. He's a large sucker, runs a little too upright but he brings a body lean with him when he hits the whole.

Tashard Choice reminds me a little bit of Curtis Martin the way he runs... HE will be an excellent cutback runner. Brings that size that I like and his track record shows he can be a workhorse. I would love to have him in swooshes!

Needless to say, I'm hoping we get a chance to select one of these guys right around round 4.

If we don't get a HB there... hey, wrap back around and look for Chauncey Washington all the way. That guy has some untapped game left in him.

A couple of interior offensive linemen who really impressed me: Andrew Pollak is going to be a very good center for many years. The guy can pass block, run block and even plays with a little nastiness. Chad Rhinehart from UNI has been very impressive. Great athlete, maybe needs to bulk up a tad but he would fit our system perfectly. Wallace and Justice haven't looked that bad either in my eyes.

I love Jordan Dizon... flows fast, has instincts and his hips are fluid in the pass game. He has a chance to do some things in the NFL however he needs to stop overpursueing so badly. He jumped the gun so quick on some runs and passes that he left his zone wide open for big plays.

I don't know who hyped up Peyton Hillis but they were right... the guy is talented. I still like Schmidt better as blocker though. More wiggle in Hillis though. He could test for some feature time at HB, he has that much quickness.

Barry Richardson is one of the worst talented players i've ever seen. Somebody hand him a jump rump.

I've given this guy a lot of crap over the season but Red Bryant has played a very solid game and had a good senior bowl week putting him back on the radar. I doubt he is much of a force as a pass rusher but the guy is hard to keep pinned down in the run game. He takes good steps, delivers a jolt whenever he hits a blocker with his hands, hardly ever gets reached and he keeps tracking down the LOS to find the ball carrier. He's probably got two or three stops or assists doing that during the game.

The new Cromartie kid had a great game thus far. Trusts his backpedal, breaks on the ball quickly. You love to see that in young corners.