So where is Javon?

[elsid13]

http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_7991488
Heimerdinger likely gone
The Titans are close to raiding the Denver staff, and Bates' son could be getting a promotion.
By Bill Williamson
The Denver Post
Article Last Updated: 01/17/2008 02:37:14 AM MST


Footnote.
Cutler, wide receiver Brandon Marshall and tight end Tony Scheffler are going to work out with a personal trainer in Atlanta next week. Detroit Lions wide receiver Calvin Johnson is expected to train with them. Staff writer Mike Klis contributed to this report. Bill Williamson: 303-954-1262 or bwilliamson@denverpost.com

This foot note seem to get lost in the Dinger gone thread. But the trio is working out and Calvin Johnson is there too. If Walker wants to figure out were he fits with the team, he might want to get his ass down there and work out with them.

[yerner]

Give me a ****ing break. Its the offseason. Dude has a life outside the job. He might not want to hang out with those dorks all summer.

[BMF Bronco]

yeah, damn it for wanting to make the team better. ****ing dorks.

[elsid13]

Give me a ****ing break. Its the offseason. Dude has a life outside the job. He might not want to hang out with those dorks all summer.

This his career. He is a professional and with the short time to make money. If he is serious about being "the man" then this is the kinda of stuff that he going to have to do, even when he doesn't want to.

[SonOfLe-loLang]

He doesn't need to "prove his worth" by working with them.

[bowtown]

On a side note, I find it very encouraging that these three have formed a little nucleus that is just going to get better during the offseason. Hopefully other young guys on the team will look up to them and buy into what they are creating. I think we may be seeing some team identity sprouting up before our very eyes.

[Hotrod]

While I'd like to see him working out with Jay all summer long I have to admit I personally would be on vacation in the bahamas about now.

[elsid13]

He doesn't need to "prove his worth" by working with them.

Wonder what Rod Smith would say about that. Remember the old saying Not For Long (NFL), if you not proven yourself everyday in the league some one going to put you out of job.

[Hotrod]

He doesn't need to "prove his worth" by working with them.

Correct he needs to "prove his worth" by staying his ass on the field and out of the media.

[Los Broncos]

Working out with CJ?

I would love to have him instead of Javon.

[broncs2bowl]

If I was in the NFL I wouldnt do that lol. I would go hang in sum clubs. Leave Javon he doesnt have to if he doesnt want to. Jay, Brandon, and Sheff can go do their think.

Im kinda surprised Brandon is goin though, Brandon seems more like a have fun kind of guy. Jay ans Sheff seem more like the "lets go lift weights" type guys.

[Smiling Assassin27]

Javon's taking a break on his home planet of Krypton...

[Paladin]

He's still rehabbing......

[theAPAOps5]

Javon doesn't think this type is the right fit for his offseason schedule. Javon thinks he might be better suited at the Adult Entertainment Expo in Vegas. Javon don't want to practice right now.

[Natedogg]

He's still rehabbing......

..... forever.

[DomCasual]

Give me a ****ing break. Its the offseason. Dude has a life outside the job. He might not want to hang out with those dorks all summer.

He doesn't have to do anything outside of what's stipulated in his contract. But every great player in the history of team sports has gotten great by doing more than they have to do. That's part of what makes them great.

What's more, it's not like the old days, where these guys don't make enough money just playing football to support themselves year round. Let's say that working harder than you have to during your career buys you an extra couple years in the league, at the end of your career. Well, even at the veteran minimum, those two years will provide more income than these guys could probably make in a decade or two, working a real job.

[Bronco Yoda]

Word is that Walker was invited to work out with them.... but... 'Javon' declined the offer.

[broncs2bowl]

Word is that Walker was invited to work out with them.... but... 'Javon' declined the offer.

shut up.......where did u get this "word" show me some proof.

[montrose]

Why would Javon go work out with players he won't be playing with this fall?

[broncs2bowl]

Montrose ur pic looks HOMO lol, although I luv their chemistry

[theAPAOps5]

Montrose ur pic looks HOMO lol, although I luv their chemistry

First thing I thought was this caption: "I WISH I COULD QUIT YOU!"

[yerner]

First off, I breaking balls. But seriously, those are 23 year old dudes who are probably single living in ATL. Javon's older, may not be able to relocate, might not be as good of friends. I'm mean, come on, it's not like they're doing it in Denver.

[bpc]

Bs. Find a way to be great and make it out there.

Who wants to be great? Obviously Scheff, Cut and BMarsh... as well as Calvin Johnson.

I hate this complaining attitude, they won't throw me the ball, ect. Make them throw you the ball Javon. Prove you belong and are worth the money. The guy is a 6 year vet now and guys that have been in the league half as long are taking more of a veteran leadership role than he is.

[montrose]

Montrose ur pic looks HOMO lol, although I luv their chemistry

I'll do something better with Photoshop when I get time, lol.

[HEAV]

Jay-C, B-Marsh and Scheff are a cliq. But a Cliq that wants to be the best they can and make the Broncos the best they can.

Javon wants the limelight solely on him.

Javon isn't about the team. Javon wants the team to be about Javon.

Jay and the boys have had this planned for well over a month. I'm sure Javon was asked to join them.

[theAPAOps5]

The best part of that footnote is Cutler, Marshall, and Scheffler are making themselves better. At this point who cares about Javon, he obviously doesn't care about the team.

[Gcver2ver3]

Who said Javon was even invited?

For all we know they don't want him to come....

scheff...cut...and b-marsh have their own kinda bond...

walker wouldn't fit in on that trip.....

[bpc]

Who said Javon was even invited?

For all we know they don't want him to come....

scheff...cut...and b-marsh have their own kinda bond...

walker wouldn't fit in on that trip.....

I would be 99.9 percent that is more about Javon than those three.

[Conklin]

I know where javon was last weekend :-D as i was there too LAS VEGAS BABY!!!! aint nuttin better than the 25th Anual AVN awards

[Kaylore]

The best part of that footnote is Cutler, Marshall, and Scheffler are making themselves better. At this point who cares about Javon, he obviously doesn't care about the team.

Exactly. Asking why he isn't there is the kind of question that really does need to be asked if you've been really listening to what he's been saying.

[~Crash~]

you know I don't see a reason Walker should be working out ?!?! the guy still is not a 100% why not rest his knee ?

[yerner]

Walker's a grown man. This isn't college. Just because those three guys can get together in Atl. doesn't mean Javon doesn't have other responsibilities. And it doesnt show anything about his commitment. The guy is a very good wr. All this Javon hate for a few statements is just silly. Plus I imagine if Rod Smith was still playing he ain't going to Atl to hang out with these dudes. They're probably spending most of their time chasing tail in Buckhead anyway. Lets talk real. And good for them. But stop making it like its this noble effort.

[Punisher]

trade him for Chad Johnson make Marshall 2nd WR just kidding :)

[fontaine]

http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_7991488
Heimerdinger likely gone
The Titans are close to raiding the Denver staff, and Bates' son could be getting a promotion.
By Bill Williamson
The Denver Post
Article Last Updated: 01/17/2008 02:37:14 AM MST


Footnote.
Cutler, wide receiver Brandon Marshall and tight end Tony Scheffler are going to work out with a personal trainer in Atlanta next week. Detroit Lions wide receiver Calvin Johnson is expected to train with them. Staff writer Mike Klis contributed to this report. Bill Williamson: 303-954-1262 or bwilliamson@denverpost.com

This foot note seem to get lost in the Dinger gone thread. But the trio is working out and Calvin Johnson is there too. If Walker wants to figure out were he fits with the team, he might want to get his ass down there and work out with them.


Yeah that's a great idea. The guy's coming off a swollen, twisted knee that's no where near 100%. Let's throw him into workouts where QBs routinely throw 80-100 passes a session.

[Northman]

yeah, damn it for wanting to make the team better. ****ing dorks.


No Kidding. Peyton, Harrison, and Wayne must all be dorks too for taking extra time to work together. Damn them Super Bowl Champions. Ha!

[Northman]

Yeah that's a great idea. The guy's coming off a swollen, twisted knee that's no where near 100%. Let's throw him into workouts where QBs routinely throw 80-100 passes a session.

As opposed to throwing him in the last two games? Hilarious!

[DukeWoody]

I smell a trade brewing ( dreaming ) Javon and our 1st for Calvin Johnson...What?? I gotta right to dream...That group together would be all-pro in no time...Oh and fck Javon, all 3 of them..

[El Guapo]

Hmmm... So um... when is Calvin Johnson up for grabs? :)

[Jetmeck]

you know I don't see a reason Walker should be working out ?!?! the guy still is not a 100% why not rest his knee ?


Exactly right ! You all are a bunch of drama queens.

[DukeWoody]

Exactly right ! You all are a bunch of drama queens.

Hilarious!

That there is funny cuz Javons is the QUEEN of all the drama queens...just watch them work in the following weeks\months leading to the draft and possibly beyond...That drama QUEEN is just gettin started, wait and see...

[-Slap-]

When I read this article, my first thought was how l glad I was to see the best skill players on offense working out together. It reminded me of the way Peyton Manning would join with Marvin Harrison for off season workouts. That's seems to have worked out pretty well for the Colts.

My second thought was that I was impressed to see Calvin Johnson working to improve. A guy with his skills might rest of his laurels, but Calvin recognized his rookie season was marked by inconsistency and he's doing everything he can to take it to the next level.

Javon Walker never crossed my mind until people mentioned him in this thread.

I found it more curious that Johnson wasn't getting together with his own teammates, but spending several weeks with Kitna the Prophet and Roy Williams the President of the Roy Williams Fan Club, didn't sound like much fun, either.

[Beantown Bronco]

I'm a firm believer in veterans taking time off to heal and get their mind off the game for a little while....if only for a month. These guys are balls to the wall for the better part of 9 months out of the season....more if they advance in the playoffs.

I see nothing wrong with guys taking time off in late January/early February. It's really their only time where they can truly escape and take time for themselves. Why earn all that money if you can't enjoy it when you are still relatively young and can still walk?

I understand there is back-story to the Walker situation and people love to pile on him, but the facts are:

- he is coming off a major injury and may need this time to continue healing and rehabbing for next season
- if he does return to the Broncos next season, he already has great on field chemistry with Cutler (go check out his numbers from the first few games this season when he was healthy)
- at this point in his career no "camps" he goes to in January or February with a bunch of rookies and second year players are going to improve his game anyway IMO

I am by no means advocating that guys in his position should not do things to improve their game in the off-season. I'm just saying that these guys play a violent sport and they should at least get a month or two off from "on field" activities" before they start killing themselves again.

[Gcver2ver3]

I'm a firm believer in veterans taking time off to heal and get their mind off the game for a little while....if only for a month. These guys are balls to the wall for the better part of 9 months out of the season....more if they advance in the playoffs.

I see nothing wrong with guys taking time off in late January/early February. It's really their only time where they can truly escape and take time for themselves. Why earn all that money if you can't enjoy it when you are still relatively young and can still walk?

I understand there is back-story to the Walker situation and people love to pile on him, but the facts are:

- he is coming off a major injury and may need this time to continue healing and rehabbing for next season
- if he does return to the Broncos next season, he already has great on field chemistry with Cutler (go check out his numbers from the first few games this season when he was healthy)
- at this point in his career no "camps" he goes to in January or February with a bunch of rookies and second year players are going to improve his game anyway IMO

I am by no means advocating that guys in his position should not do things to improve their game in the off-season. I'm just saying that these guys play a violent sport and they should at least get a month or two off from "on field" activities" before they start killing themselves again.


REP

[Dos Rios]

Why Atlanta? I know Johnson is from the area, but didn't think Cutler/Marshall/Scheffler have any connections. Wouldn't be my first choice for summer destinations.

[bowtown]

Why Atlanta? I know Johnson is from the area, but didn't think Cutler/Marshall/Scheffler have any connections. Wouldn't be my first choice for summer destinations.

Probably wouldn't be thier firts choice for a summer destination either... which is why they are going in the winter. ;)

[BigPlayShay]

Why Atlanta? I know Johnson is from the area, but didn't think Cutler/Marshall/Scheffler have any connections. Wouldn't be my first choice for summer destinations.

2 words: Gold Club :wiggle:

[sixtimeseight]

OMG where's Brandon Stokely???!!11//? He's not working out with the others he must be a malcontent!!one

Seriously, this is a non-issue. NFL players aren't all best friends hanging out and working out together in the offseason, no matter how much you want it to be that way. Walker might be a bad teammate for other reasons, but not working out in ATL with Cutler and Scheffler is not one of them.

[SonOfLe-loLang]

Walker's a grown man. This isn't college. Just because those three guys can get together in Atl. doesn't mean Javon doesn't have other responsibilities. And it doesnt show anything about his commitment. The guy is a very good wr. All this Javon hate for a few statements is just silly. Plus I imagine if Rod Smith was still playing he ain't going to Atl to hang out with these dudes. They're probably spending most of their time chasing tail in Buckhead anyway. Lets talk real. And good for them. But stop making it like its this noble effort.

I agree 100 percent. You guys are being such bitchy anuses about this. Shannon Sharpe would never practice with the team, even during the off season workouts in Denver. Didn't seem to effect his play on the field. Javon Walker is a proven NFL talent who, when healthy, has been nothing but productive. He's a grown man with a life, why does he need to go to Atlanta for a few weeks, in fact, should the entire team join those three in Atlanta? Of course not. You guys are acting as if he's ditching training camp. Relax

[alkemical]

You know what the big problem is:

Some people have this crazy mythology in their heads that football players have this vastly different interaction. Where they are some how all bound in some esoteric brotherhood.

In reality, it's not. It's no different in many ways to how lots of other people get along at work. You have the same types of people: Lazy, whiny, hard workers, etc.

To some how have this fog induced idea that NFL players are neo-spartans is very silly. To think that some of these only play for pay isn't some scarlet letter offense, when infact most of us are just working for a check all the same.

[Beantown Bronco]

I think I'd rather be reading about our young Olinemen and Dlinemen going to "Oline camp" and "Dline camp"....

[2KBack]

Not going to Atlanta to work isn't waht makes Javon a malcontent, it's him whining his way out of (soon to be) two teams in 3 seasons.

[vancejohnson82]

No Foneco????

[Gcver2ver3]

OMG where's Brandon Stokely???!!11//? He's not working out with the others he must be a malcontent!!one

Seriously, this is a non-issue. NFL players aren't all best friends hanging out and working out together in the offseason, no matter how much you want it to be that way. Walker might be a bad teammate for other reasons, but not working out in ATL with Cutler and Scheffler is not one of them.
good point

[Gcver2ver3]

OMG where's Brandon Stokely???!!11//? He's not working out with the others he must be a malcontent!!one

Seriously, this is a non-issue. NFL players aren't all best friends hanging out and working out together in the offseason, no matter how much you want it to be that way. Walker might be a bad teammate for other reasons, but not working out in ATL with Cutler and Scheffler is not one of them.


good point

[Gcver2ver3]

OMG where's Brandon Stokely???!!11//? He's not working out with the others he must be a malcontent!!one

Seriously, this is a non-issue. NFL players aren't all best friends hanging out and working out together in the offseason, no matter how much you want it to be that way. Walker might be a bad teammate for other reasons, but not working out in ATL with Cutler and Scheffler is not one of them.


good point

[Conklin]

good point

you can say that again....and again

[Gcver2ver3]

you can say that again....and again


lol....my bad

darn computer froze and i clicked submit a bunch of times.....

[Arkansas Bronco]

Well this ventures off Javon but I am very excited to see that Cutler, Marsh, and Schef are already working out together and focusing on improving there game. Hell season just ended a couple weeks ago. This shows allot of commitment to the game and makes me proud of my team.

[rubaiyat]

He doesn't need to "prove his worth" by working with them.

If he wants to establish a rapport it can't hurt...

That Cutler, Marshall, and Scheffler are all working out seems to solidify what the passing game will look like right?

[SonOfLe-loLang]

This is one of those news stories born from 24/7 sports coverage that seems to make even the smallest detail a big deal

[Beantown Bronco]

They're probably spending most of their time chasing tail in Buckhead anyway. Lets talk real. And good for them. But stop making it like its this noble effort.

This is precisely why they didn't invite Martinez along. He'd scare all the good-looking chicks away.

[fontaine]

You know what the big problem is:

Some people have this crazy mythology in their heads that football players have this vastly different interaction. Where they are some how all bound in some esoteric brotherhood.

In reality, it's not. It's no different in many ways to how lots of other people get along at work. You have the same types of people: Lazy, whiny, hard workers, etc.

To some how have this fog induced idea that NFL players are neo-spartans is very silly. To think that some of these only play for pay isn't some scarlet letter offense, when infact most of us are just working for a check all the same.


That's not fair clav.

Tell that to TO!
:wiggle:
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[Northman]

I'm a firm believer in veterans taking time off to heal and get their mind off the game for a little while....if only for a month. These guys are balls to the wall for the better part of 9 months out of the season....more if they advance in the playoffs.

I see nothing wrong with guys taking time off in late January/early February. It's really their only time where they can truly escape and take time for themselves. Why earn all that money if you can't enjoy it when you are still relatively young and can still walk?

I understand there is back-story to the Walker situation and people love to pile on him, but the facts are:

- he is coming off a major injury and may need this time to continue healing and rehabbing for next season
- if he does return to the Broncos next season, he already has great on field chemistry with Cutler (go check out his numbers from the first few games this season when he was healthy)
- at this point in his career no "camps" he goes to in January or February with a bunch of rookies and second year players are going to improve his game anyway IMO

I am by no means advocating that guys in his position should not do things to improve their game in the off-season. I'm just saying that these guys play a violent sport and they should at least get a month or two off from "on field" activities" before they start killing themselves again.


My only problem with your post here BB is that if he really needed the month or two off than why bother putting him back on the field late in the season to begin with? To me, if something happens to him it would just set him back more. So, im not buying that his knee isnt better than it is. And the way he was talking to the media he made it sound like he was 100% as he should be the main target of Cutler.

[yerner]

This is precisely why they didn't invite Martinez along. He'd scare all the good-looking chicks away.

hahaha, nice.

[TDmvp]

http://la.indymedia.org/uploads/2005/11/authentic_drama_queen.jpg

[theAPAOps5]

http://la.indymedia.org/uploads/2005/11/authentic_drama_queen.jpg

I always wondered what Telluride looked like.

[Orange_Beard]

I hope he is not working out with Ashley Lelie and Alex Smith

[TDmvp]

I always wondered what Telluride looked like.

o dude that was classic :spit: ..... or should i say .. Legen ...... wait for DARY ....

[Hogan11]

you can say that again....and again

Yeah but why pass up another chance to bash Javon and sing the praises of Cutler/Marshall and Schef?

[theAPAOps5]

Yeah but why pass up another chance to bash Javon and sing the praises of Cutler/Marshall and Schef?

I have no sympathy for someone who refers to himself in the 3rd person. Kind of like your distaste for the whole if you can back it up on the field you can talk trash ideology.

[Hogan11]

I have no sympathy for someone who refers to himself in the 3rd person. Kind of like your distaste for the whole if you can back it up on the field you can talk trash ideology.

Well, neither do I....but I can't help feeling that this is more of an attempt at elevation through denigration based on a non-story than anything else.

[theAPAOps5]

Well, neither do I....but I can't help feeling that this is more of an attempt at elevation through denigration based on a non-story than anything else.

Point taken, again I am more pleased that Cutler, Marshall, and Scheffler are working to better themselves. Javon I could care less about at this point.

[Bronco Yoda]

shut up.......where did u get this "word" show me some proof.

You're not that bright are ya noob?