View Full Version : Last nights' debate.
TailgateNut
01-16-2008, 09:45 AM
After watching the debate on MSNBC last night I have come to the conclusion that Obama and Hillary will go by the wayside and my candidate of choice will/ should get the nomination.
Get us the **** out of Iraq. Clean up the mess in DC. Kill the lobbyists! Truly support our vets (not the Repukelican version). Give power back to the middle class (the backbone of our country). Fix the healthcare mess (legalized robbery). Require our young men and women to provide some type of service to our country and make continued education affordable/available to all who wish to attend. Repeal the taxcuts for the wealthy. Have an open season on lobbyists ( free tags for each citizen)!
Opinions?
orangenblue2
01-16-2008, 11:00 AM
Now you're talking...
TailgateNut
01-16-2008, 11:04 AM
Now you're talking...
He's been "my guy". Hopefully Hillary and Obama will continue to "argue amongst themselves" and dig a deep crater for themselves and Edwards rises above it by addressing the issues which currently affect our country.
Taco John
01-16-2008, 11:10 AM
I used to think so, but Edwards has been finishing a lot lower than I thought he would already, and after the exit polling of the "undeclared" voters in Michigan, his campaign looks to be on life support.
I think it will be a Hillary/Obama ticket.
orangenblue2
01-16-2008, 11:49 AM
I used to think so, but Edwards has been finishing a lot lower than I thought he would already...
A second and a third place finish for Edwards is lower than you thought?
and after the exit polling of the "undeclared" voters in Michigan, his campaign looks to be on life support.
I could be wrong, but the only exit polling that I've seen out of Michigan shows that roughly 40% of Michiganders are undecided. Exit polling data only allowed for these choices: Clinton, Kucinich, Dodd, Gravel, and undecided. If I'm wrong, could you provide a link for me?
I think it will be a Hillary/Obama ticket.
Possible, but hardly the ideal, in my opinion...
cutthemdown
01-16-2008, 12:33 PM
Hilliary and Obama ticket? No way after how they have attacked each other. It's like you all have never followed an election before. LOL at Hilliary and Obama it will never happen. Obama would rather stay in senate then be Clintons boy. Hilliary would never be vice president she would stay in Senate.
Bronco Bob
01-16-2008, 12:36 PM
A second and a third place finish for Edwards is lower than you thought?
I could be wrong, but the only exit polling that I've seen out of Michigan shows that roughly 40% of Michiganders are undecided. Exit polling data only allowed for these choices: Clinton, Kucinich, Dodd, Gravel, and undecided. If I'm wrong, could you provide a link for me?
Possible, but hardly the ideal, in my opinion...
Obama and Edwards made a big effort to have their supporters vote
uncommitted, as they had taken their names off the Michigan ballot
and so their supporters couldn't vote for them. This was a way of
showing support for them vs Hillary. If the national polls are used
as a guide, the 40% uncommitted most likely went 25% Obama and
15% Edwards.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/16/michigan-results-reveal-s_n_81713.html
Chupacabra
01-16-2008, 12:50 PM
A senate seat is usually more powerful than the VP's chair. Billary/Obama will never happen.
Anyone hear about Hillary nominating Bill to the SC?
Bronco Bob
01-16-2008, 12:57 PM
A senate seat is usually more powerful than the VP's chair. Billary/Obama will never happen.
Anyone hear about Hillary nominating Bill to the SC?
I've heard it, but I doubt it would happen. I think it's mostly just people kidding around.
He would make a good one though, the guy borders on genius.
Taco John
01-16-2008, 03:58 PM
A second and a third place finish for Edwards is lower than you thought?
Yeah. I thought Edwards folks were going to show us something in Iowa by coming in first.
Bronco Bob
01-16-2008, 04:05 PM
Yeah. I thought Edwards folks were going to show us something in Iowa by coming in first.
Interestingly Obama's big win in Iowa got him exactly one delegate more
than Clinton, and even though Edwards barely beat Hillary to claim second
place, Edwards actually got one less delegate than Hillary.
Candidate Delegates
Obama 16
Clinton 15
Edwards 14
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_delegate_count.html
TailgateNut
01-16-2008, 04:08 PM
Yeah. I thought Edwards folks were going to show us something in Iowa by coming in first.
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Tell me Taco, how is your wunderkind doing?
Re: Edwards. He has a much better chance at a nomination than #1 RP and #2 than people think he does. Especially if Billary and Obama keep up the "infighting".
I was however pleasantly suprised at the civility of the debate last night. They brought up more intelligent takes in 5 minutes than the whole gaggle of republicans can muster in a whole day!
TailgateNut
01-16-2008, 04:10 PM
Interestingly Obama's big win in Iowa got him exactly one delegate more
than Clinton, and even though Edwards barely beat Hillary to claim second
place, Edwards actually got one less delegate than Hillary.
Candidate Delegates
Obama 16
Clinton 15
Edwards 14
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_delegate_count.html
Go Country Boy, GO!
Bronco Bob
01-16-2008, 04:29 PM
Go Country Boy, GO!
Don't get too excited yet. Of total delegate count so far it's:
Clinton 187
Obama 124
Edwards 50
Ultimately that's what counts in the end, who gets the most delegates,
not who wins the most states. In super Tuesday, California has more
delegates then Arizona, Alabama, Connecticut, Arkansas, Oklahoma,
Kansas, New Mexico, Utah, Delaware, Idaho, and North Dakota combined.
And so far Hillary is polling strong in California, as well as New York and
New Jersey.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_delegate_count.html
TailgateNut
01-16-2008, 04:49 PM
Don't get too excited yet. Of total delegate count so far it's:
Clinton 187
Obama 124
Edwards 50
Ultimately that's what counts in the end, who gets the most delegates,
not who wins the most states. In super Tuesday, California has more
delegates then Arizona, Alabama, Connecticut, Arkansas, Oklahoma,
Kansas, New Mexico, Utah, Delaware, Idaho, and North Dakota combined.
And so far Hillary is polling strong in California, as well as New York and
New Jersey.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_delegate_count.html
Hey, I'm just doin' my cheer!
I'm currently planning a trip to the witchdoctor and am getting the voodoo dolls out of the closet, so if you see Billary and Obama cringe, you'll know who's behind it!:~ohyah!:
Bronco Bob
01-16-2008, 06:22 PM
Hey, I'm just doin' my cheer!
I'm currently planning a trip to the witchdoctor and am getting the voodoo dolls out of the closet, so if you see Billary and Obama cringe, you'll know who's behind it!:~ohyah!:
Witch? Voodoo. Sound sort of sexist and racist to me. :clown: