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The MVPlaya
01-13-2008, 10:44 PM
Is anyone in favor of this type of defense?

Bladerunner
01-13-2008, 10:48 PM
sure if it doesn't actually break, but they usually do

PaintballCLE
01-13-2008, 10:50 PM
i am totally in favor of this..... especially compared to our current.....break and break some more defense lol

yavoon
01-13-2008, 11:00 PM
I in favor of it. infact its probably the most popular defense now. big plays are similar to turnovers in game impact.

lex
01-13-2008, 11:14 PM
Is anyone in favor of this type of defense?

It depends on your corners. If you have good corners, blitz like crazy. If you dont, make them earn their way down the field.

yavoon
01-13-2008, 11:17 PM
It depends on your corners. If you have good corners, blitz like crazy. If you dont, make them earn their way down the field.

NE uses asante samuel in a very safe system where his real ability is to gamble when he has help instead of to lockdown ppl.

SoCalBronco
01-13-2008, 11:19 PM
My favorite defenses are matchup zones .

Spider
01-13-2008, 11:38 PM
The Bend dont break defense has a place , but you have to mix in pressure and have an offense that can score TD's , FG's wont cut it ........

Doggcow
01-13-2008, 11:41 PM
I'm a big 3-4 fan.

enjolras
01-13-2008, 11:41 PM
I like the attacking defenses.. particularly with our corners. The old Buddy Ryan make the QB suffer mentality. It just seems like it's a type of defense that allows you to control games.

telluride
01-14-2008, 12:00 AM
No. Let's play the break 'em defense, like the old Bears team, or the old Vikings, or the recent Ravens. If we are to win again, we have to win with aggressive line play, and a nasty, step-on-their-throats attitude, on defense and on offense.

Of course, if Slowik was capable of such defense, he would have showed it long before now. And of course Shanny can no longer coach such an offense. So, basically, we're screwed until we clean house. Just do it soon, while Cutler is still young.

Spider
01-14-2008, 12:04 AM
No. Let's play the break 'em defense, like the old Bears team, or the old Vikings, or the recent Ravens. If we are to win again, we have to win with aggressive line play, and a nasty, step-on-their-throats attitude, on defense and on offense.

Of course, if Slowik was capable of such defense, he would have showed it long before now. And of course Shanny can no longer coach such an offense. So, basically, we're screwed until we clean house. Just do it soon, while Cutler is still young.

reading your post is like getting an email from Kevorkian

telluride
01-14-2008, 12:06 AM
reading your post is like getting an email from Kevorkian

The good doctor uses snail mail.


:D

Spider
01-14-2008, 12:12 AM
The good doctor uses snail mail.


:D

;D I will take your word for it

NFLBRONCO
01-14-2008, 01:06 AM
I love Defenses that stay on the field can't stop the run and avoid rushing the passer. It saves your QB from taking shots and does not expose a weak OL.

Cito Pelon
01-14-2008, 02:09 AM
Is anyone in favor of this type of defense?

No. I like an attacking D. I think you attack at all times, and let the chips fall where they may.

ScottXray
01-14-2008, 10:46 AM
I am in favor of Defense that either gets the ball back via turnover, or is able to get the other teams offense OFF the field by stopping them.

ANY kind of DEFENSE that works.

broncosteven
01-14-2008, 11:00 AM
How many times yesterday was the Cover2 beaten?

Rivers was throwing darts in between the corner and Safety all day.

I like the 4-3 we were able to run about 2-3 years ago before everyone figured it out.

bronco militia
01-14-2008, 11:06 AM
you need to be able to mix it up....forcing the offense to adjust to the defense is my favorite

Inkana7
01-14-2008, 11:10 AM
Yeah, I love wearing our defense out.

Dedhed
01-14-2008, 11:19 AM
I like a defense that attacks with the front 7, and relies on playmakers in the secondary. I like penetrating DTs, not giant 'stand em up' types. I think that any time you can get linemen in the backfield, you're going to be disruptive whether the offense is running or passing. I think adding Sedrick Ellis in the draft would give us the ability to attack the backfield if we put him next to Thomas in the middle. I think that Ekuban and Mallard could fit that design concept as well.

The thing I hate most about a conservative approach on defense is that it lends itself to long sustained drives that keep your offense off the field. I think that we're close to having a very potent offense that can put a lot of pressure on opposing teams to put points on the board. With that type of offense we don't need a shut down style defense.

I think stopping the run is the end all. This year was the most frustrating I've ever seen from the defense because they could not stop the run at all. That kept our offense off the field for insufferable stretches. We need a defense that gets the ball back in the hands of Cutler, and if they give up the big play once in awhile I'm all right with that. At least then the offense isn't cold, stiff, and half asleep after 30 minutes on the bench.

Atlas
01-14-2008, 04:18 PM
Is anyone in favor of this type of defense?

I'm in favor of any defense that doesn't give up points.

The Joe Collier defenses of the 70's and 80's were like that. The LBers were very fast, and good tacklers so were the DBs. They kept everything in front of them and in order to score you had to be patient. The thing was Denver also had a good DL too. So in long drives things can happen, like fumbles, sacks, ints. Denver won a lot of games with that kind of defense.

I'd love to see that defense again. But Denver has to get better tackling LBers and better DT's to push the pocket.

The MVPlaya
01-14-2008, 04:23 PM
I think we need a mix of everything. This is a game of ball control. If you want to consistently blitz, 4-3 is not always your best bet. The whole point of having 4 lineman is so you don't have to send extra people for pressure.

Create turnovers, win in TOP are the 2 things that will lead to success.

Broncomutt
01-14-2008, 04:25 PM
No thanks.

I'll take a big play defense. One that creates turnovers, even though they may give up a big play occasionally.

Worked pretty well about 10 years ago.

Denver Crush
01-14-2008, 04:26 PM
no, I want to see a physical beat em up, hit em in the mouth type defense. I miss the days of Atwater and Smith. Im tired of this finesse/old guy react not attack, zone d crap.

broncosteven
01-14-2008, 04:30 PM
The thing I hate most about a conservative approach on defense is that it lends itself to long sustained drives that keep your offense off the field. I think that we're close to having a very potent offense that can put a lot of pressure on opposing teams to put points on the board. With that type of offense we don't need a shut down style defense.

I concurr, it would be nice if our O controlled the clock and tempo of the game. Then our D could be good enough to force a couple 3 and outs to give the O a chance to win.

Anyone remember the TB game in 97 where TD controlled the clock to grind the game, when they were able to do that I realized they could win the SB.

cmhargrove
01-14-2008, 04:55 PM
I don't mean to be negative, but is there such a game plan as "bend but don't break." It just really means you can hold in the Red Zone. No one says, let's give up lots of yards, then we'll get really good and hold them at the goal line. You get classified as "bend but don't break," but no one plans for their defense to bend.

Unless you are Hannibal fighting the Romans at Cannae, there is no reason to "bend." It just happens.

yavoon
01-14-2008, 04:59 PM
I don't mean to be negative, but is there such a game plan as "bend but don't break." It just really means you can hold in the Red Zone. No one says, let's give up lots of yards, then we'll get really good and hold them at the goal line. You get classified as "bend but don't break," but no one plans for their defense to bend.

Unless you are Hannibal fighting the Romans at Cannae, there is no reason to "bend." It just happens.

bend but dont break just relies on the offense making some mistake. penalty, dropped ball, getting a sack. and yes there is such a thing. deny the big play+wait for offensive mistake=bend but dont break.

cmhargrove
01-14-2008, 05:24 PM
bend but dont break just relies on the offense making some mistake. penalty, dropped ball, getting a sack. and yes there is such a thing. deny the big play+wait for offensive mistake=bend but dont break.

Is there a defense out there that doesn't wait on the offense to make a mistake?

Is there one that doesn't try to deny the big play?

I'm not trying to be a Phillip Rivers (that's my new cuss word), it just seems that all defenses try to take advantage of offensive turnovers and try to prevent big plays. Some are just better at it than others.

Crushaholic
01-14-2008, 05:39 PM
"Bend, don't break", like Coyer's defenses? I'd actually take that over the crapola we saw on the field this past season. I thought I would NEVER say that. While (practically) everyone else was blaming Plummer for our losses, I was looking squarely at that defense...

The MVPlaya
01-14-2008, 05:51 PM
Is there a defense out there that doesn't wait on the offense to make a mistake?

Is there one that doesn't try to deny the big play?

I'm not trying to be a Phillip Rivers (that's my new cuss word), it just seems that all defenses try to take advantage of offensive turnovers and try to prevent big plays. Some are just better at it than others.

You have defenses that bend but don't break (non aggressive but very safe)...you're basically WAITING for something to happen in your favor.

Then you have defenses that create something, ala rex ryan, where you're aggressive. However, you're more vulnerable to the big play, but you're trying to create an INT, sack, etc

Basically it's aggressive vs non aggressive.

yavoon
01-14-2008, 06:06 PM
Is there a defense out there that doesn't wait on the offense to make a mistake?

Is there one that doesn't try to deny the big play?

I'm not trying to be a Phillip Rivers (that's my new cuss word), it just seems that all defenses try to take advantage of offensive turnovers and try to prevent big plays. Some are just better at it than others.

just for a small sampling of the two spectrums, if u like aggression ur more wanting eagles/ravens. if u like more coverage and denying the big play ur more dungy(or any cover 2 coach) and lets say the pats/jaguars.

WyoLaw
01-14-2008, 06:18 PM
Is anyone in favor of this type of defense?

NO!! Give me an aggressive attacking style of DEFENSE.

cutthemdown
01-14-2008, 06:24 PM
I prefer a defense that attacks. Then if you do give up big plays at least your offense gets the ball back enough to times to try and take over the game. If you give up scores and you use a bend dont break style you often end up with your defense on the field all game. I like the attacking style because it pressures offense more, keeps defense fresh, and gives offense a chance to have a lot of chances to have the ball.

I think a team with a strong running game, a good QB, and a defense that attacks to make big plays is the ticket.

broncolife
01-14-2008, 06:31 PM
attack,attack,attack,attack,attack,attack,attack,a ttack,attack,
Get Turnover
attack,attack,attack,attack,attack,attack,attack,a ttack,attack,
Get Burnt
attack,attack,attack,attack,attack,attack,attack,a ttack,attack,
Kill QB
attack,attack,attack,attack,attack,attack,attack,a ttack,attack,
Get 3 ints by back up qb:)

bcbronc
01-15-2008, 01:24 AM
I like aggressive defenses that have fast, athletic front sevens. I like a mix of blitzes and zone defences, with corners looking to jump hot routes. get pressure early with blitzes, then show blitz and drop into zones underneath.

my biggest problem with the 'bend don't break' is its hard to change your stripes when you are protecting a 2 point lead with 2 minutes to go.

Popps
01-15-2008, 03:47 AM
I liked our defense's strategy of tiring out the opposing offense by keeping them on the field the whole game.