For GOPers, if there had to be a Democratic president....

[JCMElway]

Who would be your choice? And be honest, only Republicans and conservative leaners in this poll.

[Hotrod]

There is no way in hell I'd vote for Billary or the socialist Edwards.

[Meck77]

Did Kucinich drop out?

[baja]

No

[JCMElway]

I only left viable candidates on the board. And, truth be told, Kucinich and Gravel are so left of center, I thought their inclusion in this poll would be pointless.

[spdirty]

Zell Miller or Joe Lieberman.

[Bob]

Bill Richardson has a ton of experience -- not sure why he has not gotten more tracton -- actually I think he will be the VP choice for Obama (if he got it) as Richardson could off-set the lack of experience concern folks should have.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Bill Richardson has a ton of experience -- not sure why he has not gotten more tracton -- actually I think he will be the VP choice for Obama (if he got it) as Richardson could off-set the lack of experience concern folks should have.

AP: Richardson to end presidential bid

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080110/ap_on_el_pr/richardson

[SoCalBronco]

If I had to confine it to just the four persons you listed in your poll, I would pick Bill Richardson (although now LABF reports that he's out of the race).

If it was just a Democrat in general, my favorite choices would be Joe Lieberman and Jane Harman, although there are some others that I would also consider (Gore, Bayh).

[Bob]

AP: Richardson to end presidential bid

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080110/ap_on_el_pr/richardson

Yeah just heard of that too ...

Still think he would be a good VP pick -- he does have more expereince than Hilary or Obama.

[JCMElway]

If I had to confine it to just the four persons you listed in your poll, I would pick Bill Richardson (although now LABF reports that he's out of the race).

If it was just a Democrat in general, my favorite choices would be Joe Lieberman and Jane Harman, although there are some others that I would also consider (Gore, Bayh).

Haven't you heard? Lieberman isn't a Democrat anymore. (I guess he is officialy, but puh-leeze.)

[SoCalBronco]

Haven't you heard? Lieberman isn't a Democrat anymore. (I guess he is officialy, but puh-leeze.)

Yes...he is officially an Independent, but he does caucus with the Democrats and is still liberal on several domestic issues.

[Bronco Bob]

Bill Richardson has a ton of experience -- not sure why he has not gotten more tracton -- actually I think he will be the VP choice for Obama (if he got it) as Richardson could off-set the lack of experience concern folks should have.

I think Richardson's problem is he comes off rather boring.
He's too calm and soft spoken.
Obama is a fantastic orator.
Edwards is a fiery populist.
Hillary inspires a lot of women
and is a pretty good BS'er too.
People like Richardson and Biden and Dodd
just get lost in the crowd.

[Spider]

I think Richardson's problem is he comes off rather boring.
He's too calm and soft spoken.
.

That and the white sands fiasco

[Bronco Bob]

That and the white sands fiasco

I doubt many of the Dems have even heard about White Sands.
Especially in places like Iowa and New Hampshire. When they
hear white sands, they probably think of some beach in Florida.
So I doubt White Sands accounts for Richardson's lack of
popularity with the voters.

[epicSocialism4tw]

I think Richardson's problem is he comes off rather boring.
He's too calm and soft spoken.
Obama is a fantastic orator.
Edwards is a fiery populist.
Hillary inspires a lot of women
and is a pretty good BS'er too.
People like Richardson and Biden and Dodd
just get lost in the crowd.

Aw...you can sense the child-like wonder of hero worship in this post.

You have much more hope in people than I do, sir.

:peace:

[orangeatheist]

What does it matter?

Seriously, do you think if any of these folks get into office they will be substantially different from the ones who didn't make it in? Seriously?

[epicSocialism4tw]

Gore seems to be crafty enough to get things organized, and isnt too whacked out outside of the global warming issue. On that note, if there was an acceptable issue to be whacked out on from that side of the isle, I would pick global warming/environment.

[epicSocialism4tw]

What does it matter?

Seriously, do you think if any of these folks get into office they will be substantially different from the ones who didn't make it in? Seriously?


There's the good ol' American cynicism. Ha!

[Kaylore]

I chose Obama because his lack of any real substantive plan and any kind of DC power base would guarantee his administration would fail and thus put a Republican back in the white house in 2012.

[TheDave]

I chose Obama because his lack of any real substantive plan and any kind of DC power base would guarantee his administration would fail and thus put a Republican back in the white house in 2012.

I am sooooo disapointed in you...

[spdirty]

I chose Obama because his lack of any real substantive plan and any kind of DC power base would guarantee his administration would fail and thus put a Republican back in the white house in 2012.

LOL ^5

[Kaylore]

I am sooooo disapointed in you...

It's ok, I still love you. :kiss:

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I am sooooo disapointed in you...

+1

He simply does not evolve...

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/5083/evolutionfinalfa5.jpg

[Rohirrim]

I chose Obama because his lack of any real substantive plan and any kind of DC power base would guarantee his administration would fail and thus put a Republican back in the white house in 2012.

Ouch! That's a little too close to the truth. Obama would be a Carter redux.

[Rohirrim]

Zell Miller or Joe Lieberman.

No fair picking Republicans. :rofl:

[spdirty]

No fair picking Republicans. :rofl:

Bullshlt! They have a (D) next to their names. Just like McCain, Huckabee, and Spectre have an (R) next to theirs.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I thought Zig Zag Zell retired?

[Kaylore]

Ouch! That's a little too close to the truth. Obama would be a Carter redux.

It's because it's true. Seriously, this barnstorming populist Obama movement is fun, but ultimately speaking he has done little nothing. He has no allies in Washington. He's already adversarial with the Clintonians and that immediately makes him enemies with several would-be allies as it is. He would be a lame duck.

Not that it'll happen. People are going to get tired of the sunshine rhetoric and want to hear something of substance. If he doesn't, then his support will fade fast. If he does and people realize that his actual "change" doesn't jive with the perfect change they've been imagining in their heads this whole time, then his well will run dry.

[Kaylore]

Bullshlt! They have a (D) next to their names. Just like McCain, Huckabee, and Spectre have an (R) next to theirs.

LOL Rep.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Kaylore vs. reality:

He (Obama) has no allies in Washington.

Even Conservative Media Chorus Sings Obama's Praises

By Howard Kurtz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, January 8, 2008; Page C01

Barack Obama, now the media's odds-on favorite to win the White House, is drawing effusive praise from the chattering classes.

"You'd have to have a heart of stone not to be moved by this. . . . This is a huge moment," one commentator wrote.

An unreconstructed liberal? An African American hungering for a racial breakthrough? No, it was David Brooks, the conservative New York Times columnist, and he's got plenty of company on the right.

The media overall are being swept up by a wave of Obamamania, in which normally hard-bitten journalists watch the orator in action and come away dazzled by his gifts. A New York Times piece Saturday compared the Illinois senator to JFK and Martin Luther King in the same paragraph. A Newsweek cover story out yesterday gushed that Obama, "tall and handsome and blessed with a weighty baritone, knows how to bring along a crowd while seeming to stay slightly above it." The journalistic scrutiny usually visited on instant front-runners has been replaced by something akin to a standing ovation.

What's more, the applause extends even to pundits on the right, many of whom routinely denigrate Democratic politicians and yet are strikingly warm toward Obama. There is gratitude, to be sure, that he seems poised to knock off their longtime bete noire, Hillary Clinton -- especially if he wins today's New Hampshire primary -- but also admiration for his inclusive approach to politics and for his sheer talent.

"Who's not proud of this kid?" says Amanda Carpenter, national political reporter for the conservative site Townhall.com. "He has a story people feel good about."

In the wake of Obama's remarks about unity on the night of his Iowa caucus victory Thursday, MSNBC's Joe Scarborough, a former Republican congressman and self-described conservative, called it "one of the most remarkable speeches I've ever seen."

Bill Bennett, the conservative author, said on CNN that it was a "remarkable breakthrough" for "Barack Hussein Obama, a black man," to win in a "rural, white farming state." Rush Limbaugh added his voice on the radio, saying that Obama and Mike Huckabee, the Republican winner in Iowa, "had really uplifting, inspirational speeches."

The Weekly Standard called Obama "the classiest candidate on the Democratic side." Peggy Noonan, the former Ronald Reagan speechwriter, wrote in the Wall Street Journal that Obama had won "with a classy campaign, an unruffled manner, and an appeal on the stump that said every day, through the lines: Look at who I am and see me, the change that you desire is right here, move on with me and we will bring it forward together."

What explains these cross-party kudos?

"There's clearly a matter of heart going on here," Bennett says after his morning radio show. "He's a cool guy, a handsome guy, has a fabulous voice. A leading Democratic candidate, a black man in America, and he does not talk about race, does not play the race card. It appeals to the better angels of all our natures."

Scarborough dismisses the notion that some conservatives are talking up Obama in the belief that he would be a weak general-election opponent. "I get e-mails from Republicans, who've never voted for a Democrat before, saying they were tearing up during his Iowa speech," he says from New Hampshire. "I don't think they're being calculated and cynical. This is so damn great for America."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/07/AR2008010702939.html?nav=rss_politics&sid=ST2008010800506

[Crushaholic]

I picked Obama for a couple of reasons. First of all, he's a powerful orator and could be a good morale leader for the country. Secondly, he could influence more young people to get involved in the voting process.

[defenseman]

I'd go with Hillary. On the nation's security front, I think she's best equipped to maintain it strong without doing something stupid. Second, I do believe she'll have a difficult time getting universal health care actually enacted. Taxes would rise, however, I think she has the savvy to head the economy in the right direction...dman

[FrontRowSeat1]

I'd go with Hillary. On the nation's security front, I think she's best equipped to maintain it strong without doing something stupid. Second, I do believe she'll have a difficult time getting universal health care actually enacted. Taxes would rise, however, I think she has the savvy to head the economy in the right direction...dman

Hate to agree but I agree.

[Dead Head]

Out of that group: I would vote for the departed Richardson, but I am not a GOP'er

[Rohirrim]

Obama is toast. He's getting the kiss of death from Kerry this morning. ;D

[Bronco Bob]

Obama is toast. He's getting the kiss of death from Kerry this morning. ;D

Kerry is just pissed off with Edwards because Edwards blamed him for
losing the election in 2004. And Kerry is pissed off with Hillary because
she criticized him for the "Don't stay in school and you end up in Iraq"
joke that Kerry made. So Obama gets Kerry's endorsement by default.