Why I support Hillary as president [Archive] - The Orange Mane

TheDave

01-09-2008, 03:53 PM

Damn dave in that case come on down I know a toothless pecker checker you will like.

Eh... No thanks.

Actually i'm not sure if i support Hilary or not. To be honest i love here in the debates, I agree with enough of her policies, but for some reason i just do not feel comfortable with here. Fortunately I still have plenty of time to figure things out.

and by the way... I was the one complaining about Sexism in our country,and the first thing out of my mouth is "Id hit it... Think i need to look at myself as far as that problem goes.

baja

01-09-2008, 03:56 PM

Nothing sexist about admitting you are a pervert.;D

cutthemdown

01-09-2008, 04:02 PM

Well I'm not saying I'm supporting her but I do think she would be a hard working President.

theAPAOps5

01-09-2008, 04:05 PM

Well I'm not saying I'm supporting her but I do think she would be a hard working President.

Well she hasn't proven to be a hard worker in the past...... Bill and Monica proved that.

I kid, sorry had to throw the juvenile post in here. I don't support her so I will leave now.

Spider

01-09-2008, 04:06 PM

Discuss....

OK.........Enough ... you are banging hillary

Hotrod

01-09-2008, 04:06 PM

She needs a new look. Lets start with the hair

Bronco Bob

01-09-2008, 04:08 PM

Well I'm not saying I'm supporting her but I do think she would be a hard working President.

Yeah, all fun aside, she does seem to be very hard working.
And seems willing to work with the Republicans.
Apparently in th Senate she is well respected on
both sides of the aisle.
Some see this as a liability, ie the Dems and Pubs
concluding to screw over the public. But nothing
is ever going to get done if both sides keep fighting
each other. Obama talks about how he is going to
bring the country together, but where exactly is
his track record on working with the Republicans.
And Edwards just sounds like he would end up
pissing everybody off.

theAPAOps5

01-09-2008, 04:11 PM

Yeah, all fun aside, she does seem to be very hard working.
And seems willing to work with the Republicans.
Apparently in th Senate she is well respected on
both sides of the aisle.
Some see this as a liability, ie the Dems and Pubs
concluding to screw over the public. But nothing
is ever going to get done if both sides keep fighting
each other. Obama talks about how he is going to
bring the country together, but where exactly is
his track record on working with the Republicans.
And Edwards just sounds like he would end up
pissing everybody off.

I actually agree. Obama is a talking head to me at this point. As a libertarian I will have to see who makes the parties nominations but I want someone who will try to bridge the gap of the parties. If Hillary already has a track record then that is a big plus. Edwards is such an extreme left candidate almost to the point of socialist I could never vote for him.

Spider

01-09-2008, 04:18 PM

She needs a new look. Lets start with the hair

welcome back ****er ;D ....... you missed it , I was called a Piller of the community . then the Dave called me a bitch ;D

Hotrod

01-09-2008, 04:20 PM

welcome back ****er ;D ....... you missed it , I was called a Piller of the community . then the Dave called me a b**** ;D

"Piller of the community" what retarded chef fan said that **** :)

Spider

01-09-2008, 04:24 PM

"Piller of the community" what retarded chef fan said that **** :)

LOL It was a Broncos fan , I was arguing with Garcia.....aka Dead head ... but needless to say I agree with him , but we now have the Dave on ignore

baja

01-09-2008, 04:37 PM

She needs a new look. Lets start with the hair

What'da talkin about she looks pretty good to me.

Course remove the makeup and ....

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/photos/2006/07/30/face-trans-china_cp_10473612.jpg

theAPAOps5

01-09-2008, 05:24 PM

LOL It was a Broncos fan , I was arguing with Garcia.....aka Dead head ... but needless to say I agree with him , but we now have the Dave on ignore

Why was Garcia using Dead Head? Or is that a different Garcia. Either way that was a damn fine smack fest last night.

Spider

01-09-2008, 06:23 PM

Why was Garcia using Dead Head? Or is that a different Garcia. Either way that was a damn fine smack fest last night.

Medication would be my guess ......

L.A. BRONCOS FAN

01-09-2008, 07:55 PM

Edwards is such an extreme left candidate almost to the point of socialist I could never vote for him.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/attachment.php?attachmentid=20704&stc=1&d=1197348109

theAPAOps5

01-09-2008, 08:12 PM

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/attachment.php?attachmentid=20704&stc=1&d=1197348109

Huh thats interesting. Listening to him speak several times I don't buy that he is that far right. But again thats my POV in the grand scheme he probably is. Thanks for sharing that.

Bronco Bob

01-09-2008, 09:28 PM

Since this is about Hillary, what's interesting about her is that
she is only one point to the right of Obama and Edwards.
And yet the far left paints her a hard core right winger.
And she is only two points to the left of the majors
GOP candidates, and yet she gets painted as a screaming
liberal by the right wingers.
So she ends up being despised by both extremes.
To further show the absurdity of judgments
about Hillary, she is only one point higher
than Ron Paul on the libertarian scale,
and more libertarian than any other major
candidate. Yet the libertarians triy to
paint Hillary as some authoritarian who
wants to be America's first queen
and Ron Paul is going to turn America
into some sort of libertarian paradise.

Paladin

01-10-2008, 01:23 AM

It's all media posturing. TV needs the money....

Kaylore

01-10-2008, 01:30 AM

I don't. She's a power hungry man. She's basically Nurse Rachet as a politician.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN

01-10-2008, 01:52 AM

I don't. She's a power hungry man. She's basically Nurse Rachet as a politician.

Whereas you are probably one of those "iron my shirt" protesters. Ha!

Bronco Bob

01-10-2008, 01:56 AM

Whereas you are probably one of those "iron my shirt" protesters. Ha!

The "iron my shirt" guys are part of the reason Hillary won New Hampshire.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN

01-10-2008, 02:00 AM

The "iron my shirt" guys are part of the reason Hillary won New Hampshire.

I wonder if she didn't borrow a page from the Rove playbook and plant those guys in the audience herself? ;)

Either way, even though I'm not a Hillary supporter, it's always nice to see conservative idiocy backfire. :thumbs:

Kaylore

01-10-2008, 02:07 AM

The "iron my shirt" guys are part of the reason Hillary won New Hampshire.

Those guys were placed by Hillary to evoke sympathy. As with her "tears" it was all planned.

spdirty

01-10-2008, 02:16 AM

I wonder if she didn't borrow a page from the Rove playbook and plant those guys in the audience herself? ;)

Either way, even though I'm not a Hillary supporter, it's always nice to see conservative idiocy backfire. :thumbs:

Man, how obvious could that be? Dude, seriously, what point are you trying to get across to do that? The only reason I can think of why anyone would ever try to do that is to give her sympathy and to caricature yourself as a sexist jerk.

Other than that, I have no ides why anyone would do that.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN

01-10-2008, 02:28 AM

Man, how obvious could that be? Dude, seriously, what point are you trying to get across to do that? The only reason I can think of why anyone would ever try to do that is to give her sympathy and to caricature yourself as a sexist jerk.

Other than that, I have no ides why anyone would do that.

Are you suggesting that these "iron my shirt" guys weren't saying what a lot of republi-bubbas are thinking but are afraid to say out loud?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN

01-10-2008, 02:29 AM

Those guys were placed by Hillary to evoke sympathy.

I was wondering the same thing, but is there proof of this?

Bronco Bob

01-10-2008, 09:57 AM

I was wondering the same thing, but is there proof of this?

Obviously she didn't. But you Hillary haters are so fixated on hating her
that you will grasp at straws in finding a way to smear her.
Doesn't matter if she did anything wrong or not. You'll just
make up crap if you haven't got anything real.
Even those GOP hacks on FOX are picking up on this. Bill O'Reilly
last night was even sticking up for Hillary, showing clips of that
lunatic Chris Matthews bashing Hillary.

defenseman

01-10-2008, 10:04 AM

Obviously she didn't. But you Hillary haters are so fixated on hating her
that you will grasp at straws in finding a way to smear her.
Doesn't matter if she did anything wrong or not. You'll just
make up crap if you haven't got anything real.
Even those GOP hacks on FOX are picking up on this. Bill O'Reilly
last night was even sticking up for Hillary, showing clips of that
lunatic Chris Matthews bashing Hillary.

NBC has made their bones, they want Obama and their sticking to guns. They'll continue to attack Hillary throughout. Amazing that americans put up with this from a major network, I don't watch them anymore, AT ALL because of this. For what it's worth, I thought she was pretty genuine with her tears to be honest. Just like I thought she was pretty genuine when she emphatically hammered Obama on a few issues during the recent debate on ABC. She won that debate, but NBC spun it to obama's side of the court...dman

Bronco Bob

01-10-2008, 10:12 AM

NBC has made their bones, they want Obama and their sticking to guns. They'll continue to attack Hillary throughout. Amazing that americans put up with this from a major network, I don't watch them anymore, AT ALL because of this. For what it's worth, I thought she was pretty genuine with her tears to be honest. Just like I thought she was pretty genuine when she emphatically hammered Obama on a few issues during the recent debate on ABC. She won that debate, but NBC spun it to obama's side of the court...dman

I used to enjoy Chris Matthews until he started his crusade this year to
bring Hillary down. Now even Keith Olbermann is jumping on the bash
Hillary bandwagon. So that's two programs not worth watching anymore
that I used to really like. Sad when a national news outlet sinks into
yellow journalism.

defenseman

01-10-2008, 10:20 AM

I used to enjoy Chris Matthews until he started his crusade this year to
bring Hillary down. Now even Keith Olbermann is jumping on the bash
Hillary bandwagon. So that's two programs not worth watching anymore
that I used to really like. Sad when a national news outlet sinks into
yellow journalism.

Fox news is doing the same thing with Huckabee and McCain. A slow but sure shift to their direction. I stopped watching them...dman

baja

01-10-2008, 11:46 AM

I used to enjoy Chris Matthews until he started his crusade this year to
bring Hillary down. Now even Keith Olbermann is jumping on the bash
Hillary bandwagon. So that's two programs not worth watching anymore
that I used to really like. Sad when a national news outlet sinks into
yellow journalism.

Actually I appreciate their new level of transparency.

Their agenda is clear to most now.

I'm talking about TV news not just these two programs

defenseman

01-10-2008, 12:02 PM

Actually I appreciate their new level of transparency.

Their agenda is clear to most now.

I'm talking about TV news not just these two programs

True. It's easy to avoid them, just change the channel, which I do. Fox isn't on that often anymore in my household. For the debate tonite though, I will tune in...dman

Kaylore

01-10-2008, 05:38 PM

Hillary Clinton is a power-hungry bitch. I hate Dennis Kucinich's views, but at least he's consistent. Hillary would sell her daughter to a slave trader if it meant she could be in the white house. Just look at her political views and voting record. They are designed for one purpose and that's to make herself more moderate so she can win the Presidency. She's a traitor to her own....and she's a wench too.

orangenblue2

01-10-2008, 05:41 PM

Kaylore

01-10-2008, 05:49 PM

But how do you really feel...

:P

Bronco Bob

01-10-2008, 05:55 PM

Hillary Clinton is a power-hungry b****. I hate Dennis Kucinich's views, but at least he's consistent. Hillary would sell her daughter to a slave trader if it meant she could be in the white house. Just look at her political views and voting record. They are designed for one purpose and that's to make herself more moderate so she can win the Presidency. She's a traitor to her own....and she's a wench too.

And here is Hillary's voting record for those interested in wading through it.

http://votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=55463

Here are the records of the rest currently running, if you want to compare.

Obama's

http://votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=9490

Edwards'

http://votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=21107

McCain's

http://votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=53270

Thompson's

http://votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=22003

Ron Paul's

http://votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=296

Kucinich's

http://votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=318

Hunter's

http://votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=26776

gunns

01-10-2008, 08:24 PM

Bronco Bob

01-10-2008, 08:29 PM

Too bad. Read this thread seeing what people were thinking about Hillary and get the standard man response anywhere from "hitting on her" to "she's a wench". I didn't know so many of you knew her personally. I know she doesn't look all warm and fuzzy like Barbara Bush but at least she isn't the moron Barbara Bush is either. When one of you comes up with a real reason, I'll be interested in reading that.

Folks, this is why Hillary won in New Hampshire. The more you guys make
lewd and sexist remarks about Hillary, the more women you end up pissing
off and making sympathetic to Hillary, maybe even enough to vote for
her. Yeah, keep making fun of Hillary's looks, laugh, sexual orientation.
I'm looking forward to President Hillary Rodham Clinton.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN

01-10-2008, 08:39 PM

I used to enjoy Chris Matthews until he started his crusade this year to bring Hillary down.

Matthews was part of the crusade to bring her husband down in the 90s. He was a corporate tool then, and he's a corporate tool now.

http://www.bartcop.com/tweety-demo.jpg

gunns

01-10-2008, 11:10 PM

Folks, this is why Hillary won in New Hampshire. The more you guys make
lewd and sexist remarks about Hillary, the more women you end up pissing
off and making sympathetic to Hillary, maybe even enough to vote for
her. Yeah, keep making fun of Hillary's looks, laugh, sexual orientation.
I'm looking forward to President Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Wrong. I'm really torn as to who I'm going to vote for. I've kind of moved away from Hillary because I can't see that there is a true commitment to bringing our troops home. But I haven't heard anything but rhetoric from all of them and can't say I know where any of them stand. I enjoy reading posts here as most of you usually provide an intelligent take on whatever the topic is, whether I agree with it or not. I don't mind laughing at a few jokes about the woman being President but damn, there was little substance at all. No, it will not make me vote for her but I did expect more out of you guys. If you don't like her, why? And an opinion of someone being a wench is not substance. Do any of you really know why you don't like her? I'd just like to know.

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