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baja
01-07-2008, 12:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F1bS0IoWYk&feature=related

Rohirrim
01-07-2008, 01:08 PM
But if Crick's idea is correct, where did that original DNA, the DNA of the original living planet, come from? Somewhere, there was a beginning.

baja
01-07-2008, 01:17 PM
Why does there have to be a beginning for omnipresent consciousness.

Rohirrim
01-07-2008, 01:18 PM
Why does there have to be a beginning for omnipresent consciousness.

I mean for DNA.

baja
01-07-2008, 01:22 PM
Could be a vehicle (DNA) of propagation of the ever evolving and changing omnipresent consciousness.

alkemical
01-07-2008, 01:33 PM
i can't watch the movie @ work - but i'm still waiting for ro~ to expound on narcisism

TheDave
01-07-2008, 01:36 PM
Speaking of open minded... Here I am :Thumbs:


J/K... I'm otta here.

orangeatheist
01-07-2008, 05:35 PM
But if Crick's idea is correct, where did that original DNA, the DNA of the original living planet, come from? Somewhere, there was a beginning.

I've only seen half the video. I'll watch the other half when I get a chance. But this is nearly the same thing that struck me. It's just like gaffney's mini-nuke theory. It sounds "good" isolated, but when you think about it on a larger scale, it's absolutely...stupid.

On the one hand, you've got people whose credulity is strained because they can't fathom how life began on earth. They say the odds are just impossible. And so, they think of all sorts of ways that it had to get here. Some say goddidit, some say aliens brought/sent it. Just like the World Trade Centers. For some, the buildings coming down just strains their credulity. So, rather than the least complicated explanation they invent things like mini-nukes or space lasers funded by George W. Bush. It all sounds so wonderfully conspiratorial and worthy of a Hollywood film that some are sucked in. We're just glued in fascination! But, what the mini-nukers fail to account for is how a Bush administration so clever as to set up mini-nukes was so utterly incompetent as to not set up WMDs in Iraq to cover up its supposed "grab for oil."

In much the same way, these fantasies about advanced civilizations fail to account for the FAR more incredulous assertion that somehow freezing bacteria on billions of space ships sent out in every minute direction from a planet would have required far more expense and technology than it would have to simply save the doomed planet in the first place. But beyond that, the sheer odds of one of these ships making it intact to earth at just the right time in her history to support newly seeded life strains one's imagination FAR more than merely letting nature handle the job herself right here from scratch. Just because scientists can't yet tell us how/why life began, it seems like that's an open invitation to every loon with a hyperactive imagination to posit all sorts of nonsense.

Having heard just a tiny fraction of the second part of this "must-see" video --regarding transdimensional beings--I don't hold out much hope that a more sober theory will be forthcoming.

baja
01-07-2008, 05:56 PM
Than why bother watching the other half?

Bronco Bob
01-07-2008, 06:11 PM
I'm not sure which "most scientists claim" he was referring to in regards
to DNA springing up on its own. More likely it was simpler molecules
such as simple RNAs that came before DNA. See thats the problem
creationists have. They seem locked in the idea that something
has to come full blown out of the box to work for the purpose
it was intended. They don't consider that something simple could
have come first and with minor but cumulative changes ended
up as something more complex. You have simple molecules
that are highly inefficient but are still capable of some degree
of replication. Minor changes occur and here and there a change
makes them better at it. More of these survive because the
are more efficient, and after a few years you have RNA.
And then a few more years pass and you have DNA.

Rohirrim
01-07-2008, 06:25 PM
Many may not be aware of this, but there are bacteria that live within fractures in the earth thousands of feet underground.
http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/20060919234956data_trunc_sys.shtml

What this might mean is these bacteria could exist in asteroids and comets for millions of years and when they crash into a planet, survivors begin to expand and mutate into new forms dependent on the niches available to them. They survive on forms of radiation which exist throughout the universe. What this also might mean is that life is spread throughout the universe, as abundant as comets and asteroids, and perhaps matter itself.

baja
01-07-2008, 06:32 PM
Life is always trying to expand it seems. Even the lonely distant sand spit has a coconut tree on it, that couldn't be considered easy.

Bronco Bob
01-07-2008, 08:35 PM
Many may not be aware of this, but there are bacteria that live within fractures in the earth thousands of feet underground.
http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/20060919234956data_trunc_sys.shtml

What this might mean is these bacteria could exist in asteroids and comets for millions of years and when they crash into a planet, survivors begin to expand and mutate into new forms dependent on the niches available to them. They survive on forms of radiation which exist throughout the universe. What this also might mean is that life is spread throughout the universe, as abundant as comets and asteroids, and perhaps matter itself.

Then again it might just mean that life first evolved on earth in thermal vents
in the oceans and that life on earth is already adapted to extreme conditions.

alkemical
01-07-2008, 09:47 PM
I'm familiar with Graham's work - Interesting Posit. Definitely interesting. I don't know if i agree with it - but who knows - mankind could be much older than we assume. His Points on Altered states is point on though from all my work. Time and Space would be relative when it comes to consciousness.

It's one reason that some say A. Crowley "brought" the greys here. (http://www.boudillion.com/lam/lam.htm)