PFT: Falcons Pursuing Mike Shanahan

[DomCasual]

File this under "Consider the Source."

http://beta.profootballtalk.com/2007/12/27/falcons-sniffing-around-shanahan/

FALCONS SNIFFING AROUND SHANAHAN?
Posted by Mike Florio on December 27, 2007 5:09 pm

A league source tells us that the Atlanta Falcons are exploring the possibility of pursuing Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan.

As the rumor/scuttlebutt goes, Shanahan would run the show in Atlanta, as the head coach and de facto G.M.

Though he’s still under contract with the Broncos, the thinking is that owner Pat Bowlen might be happy to let him leave, given the struggles of the team in 2007.

Another name that has emerged in Atlanta is Chiefs V.P. of player personnel Bill Kuharich. It’s possible that both Shanahan and Kuharich could join the Falcons, with Kuharich serving as the G.M. but Shanahan calling the shots.

[DeusExManning]

Ridiculous, Shanny cannot be in a better situation and it would look like he quit.

[manchambo]

I believe that it might look attractive to him to go to a college team or to a decent NFL team. I don't believe for a minute that he would want to take over that team.

[DomCasual]

Ridiculous, Shanny cannot be in a better situation and it would look like he quit.

I don't know. I've read that he likes it here, in part because of Jay Cutler's potential. He'd have a similar situation in Atlanta with Joey Harrington. :)

[peacepipe]

I hope Shanahan stays,actually I hope this is hogwash.

[RhymesayersDU]

Take him!


/it was bound to happen, I'm just beating people to the punch

[Spider]

Now why in the hell would the Falcons hire Mike Shanahan , when they could hire geniuses like Telluride , Wolf 7whatever the hell his name is , or some of the other few select Elites here , that know alot more then shanny ?

[NFLBRONCO]

This thread is funny.

[rbackfactory80]

Shanahan is always looking for more work. Why doesn't he coach and gm both.

[Orange_Beard]

2 first rounders and a starting DT.

[broncofan7]

while using one of his enemies, Mike Florio, in the process. Shanny will send you a Christmas card if this works, Florio

[eddie mac]

This thread is funny.

Almost as funny as the trade Champ Bailey threads.Hilarious!

[ND Bronco Fan]

2 first rounders and a starting DT.

Someone refresh my memory......is this still allowed? If it was then I would consider it and I have never wanted anyone other than Shanahan......jeez, you know what on second thought I still want him.

[elsid13]

Someone refresh my memory......is this still allowed? If it was then I would consider it and I have never wanted anyone other than Shanahan......jeez, you know what on second thought I still want him.

It not allowed any more, they changed the rules.

[NFLBRONCO]

Almost as funny as the trade Champ Bailey threads.Hilarious!

Guilty as charged on Bailey but, I'll gladly admit I'm wrong in 5 yrs be interesting to see how many playoff games we win in that time. I just hope we don't waste his talents here by underachieving team.

[rovolution]

2 first rounders and a starting DT.

plus throw in Warrick Dunn

[ND Bronco Fan]

It not allowed any more, they changed the rules.

Then this is never going to happen, he will not leave.....too much invested in his current situation and personal pride in Denver.

[crowebomber]

I can see how that would be a very attractive situation for Shanahan.

Go to a 3-13 team whose franchise qb just went to prison, whose headcoach walked out before the season was up pissing off the players and fans, and get to live and coach in a city that was nearly wiped off the map by a hurricane just two years ago. Who wouldn't be interested?

[elsid13]

Then this is never going to happen, he will not leave.....too much invested in his current situation and personal pride in Denver.

I agree, when Shanahan is done coaching I expect he see himself as this franchise's Bill Walsh, but in active role. He will always be part of the team as long as Bowlen owns the team

[crowebomber]

Oops, wrong city. Too much eggnog.

[elsid13]

I can see how that would be a very attractive situation for Shanahan.

Go to a 3-13 team whose franchise qb just went to prison, whose headcoach walked out before the season was up pissing off the players and fans, and get to live and coach in a city that was nearly wiped off the map by a hurricane just two years ago. Who wouldn't be interested?

When was Atlanta threaten by a hurricane??? Or were you talking about Sherman???

[NFLBRONCO]

Why would Shanny leave a place where the Owner and 70% of fans don't care what he does. I'm pretty sure Atlanta would hold him accountable.

[DomCasual]

Why would Shanny leave a place where the Owner and 70% of fans don't care what he does. I'm pretty sure Atlanta would hold him accountable.

Plus, Denver doesn't EVER get hurricanes!

[BlaK-Argentina]

Anyone who believes Shanahan will leave the Broncos with a QB like Jay Cutler who he hand picked and who can make great things for him is... well, crazy.

[backup qb]

This is going to be a looooooong offseason.

[backup qb]

very very looooooooooooooooooong

[TheDave]

Now why in the hell would the Falcons hire Mike Shanahan , when they could hire geniuses like Telluride , Wolf 7whatever the hell his name is , or some of the other few select Elites here , that know alot more then shanny ?

Exactly what I was thinking...

[cutthemdown]

I can see how that would be a very attractive situation for Shanahan.

Go to a 3-13 team whose franchise qb just went to prison, whose headcoach walked out before the season was up pissing off the players and fans, and get to live and coach in a city that was nearly wiped off the map by a hurricane just two years ago. Who wouldn't be interested?

Hurricanes in Atlanta?

[Bronco_Beerslug]

When was Atlanta threaten by a hurricane??? Or were you talking about Sherman???

LOL!

[Jason in LA]

As soon as I saw "PFT" my worries went away. They just make up the news.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

As soon as I saw "PFT" my worries went away. They just make up the news.I don't know, the older people get the more ready they are to get out of the cold.

[eddie mac]

Guilty as charged on Bailey but, I'll gladly admit I'm wrong in 5 yrs be interesting to see how many playoff games we win in that time. I just hope we don't waste his talents here by underachieving team.

The problem has never been Champ. It's always been the cheap ass crap in front of him. Whether we win a playoff game in the future wont be solely on him, it'll be his supporting cast.

[Needa Pass Rush]

How many first round pics would they give? Ha!

[tsiguy96]

i hope he leaves just to piss all you guys off. would be awesome

[BlaK-Argentina]

The problem has never been Champ. It's always been the cheap ass crap in front of him. Whether we win a playoff game in the future wont be solely on him, it'll be his supporting cast.

But we can already thank him for winning our only playoff game in years.

[BigPlayShay]

Mike Singletary.

[tsiguy96]

Mike Singletary.

he is gonna be a good hc...

[Bronco_Beerslug]

he is gonna be a good hc...Why?

[ZONA]

It's been how many years that John Elway has been retired and Shanny has been looking for "the guy" and now that he has a lagit young QB, he's gonna dash off to the Falcons???????????

Get real.

Although, I would not put it past Shanny and his always thinking self, to ask a souce to start a rumor so it puts the fear of losing him in the head of Bowlen................nah. The dude has 2 losing seasons in 11 years with Broncos and he's not going anywhere.

If there's 2 things Shanny covets the most, it's a stud at QB and a stud corner. I think he has the best corner right now and an upcoming stud at QB. I just don't see it.

[lex]

File this under "Consider the Source."

http://beta.profootballtalk.com/2007/12/27/falcons-sniffing-around-shanahan/

FALCONS SNIFFING AROUND SHANAHAN?
Posted by Mike Florio on December 27, 2007 5:09 pm

A league source tells us that the Atlanta Falcons are exploring the possibility of pursuing Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan.

As the rumor/scuttlebutt goes, Shanahan would run the show in Atlanta, as the head coach and de facto G.M.

Though he’s still under contract with the Broncos, the thinking is that owner Pat Bowlen might be happy to let him leave, given the struggles of the team in 2007.

Another name that has emerged in Atlanta is Chiefs V.P. of player personnel Bill Kuharich. It’s possible that both Shanahan and Kuharich could join the Falcons, with Kuharich serving as the G.M. but Shanahan calling the shots.

Isnt this the same dude who said Shanahan was going to Michigan? How did that work out?

[Captain 'Dre]

2 first rounders and a starting DT.

Wouldn't that be great?

The NFL changed the rules, though, after Al Davis 'traded' John Gruden to Tampa Bay.

Pat Riley is a great basketball coach, but a coach can only work with a group of players for so long before he's burned up all of his motivational techniques on that group. That's why Riley had to leave the Lakers. Once he landed elsewhere, he again enjoyed a greater level of success.

I wonder if the same principle applies with Shanny.

Not saying it does... but it might.

[WABronco]

So they're sniffing around him? So the F what? OMG PFT IS MAKING **** UP AGAIN OMG

[HEAV]

Ya sure... it's a lateral move. Mike wouldn't gain anything from going to the Falcons. He's already got the power in Denver.

Mike Florio is a ****ing hack! Jesus people wake up to his schtick! He's a monkey with a keyboard (like many of us) he as an issue with Shanny and bangs on him when he can.

He makes up 50% of his stories and steals the other 50% from other media outlets.

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NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports the Falcons have been looking into the background of 49ers assistant head coach/linebackers Mike Singletary and could set up an interview with him shortly.


Adam Schefter, now theres a guy I trust! He's a class act and isn't a prick in person like Florio.

[loborugger]

If I was in Atlanta I would be interested in hiring Shanny. I would also be interested in hiring Dungy, Bellicheat, Holmgren, and any other HC that has an established track record as a winner. This story has all the "no-duh" revelations of a HS newspaper announcing "Chess club member wants to ask the hot chick to the dance." However, that doesn't mean she has the slightest interest in him.

The only thing that gives this story the even smallest hint of creedence is that Shanny, unlike the other coaches I mentioned, has had a rough go of 2007.

[Los Broncos]

This is going to be a looooooong offseason.

Hasn't it started already?

[BroncoBuff]

Nonsense.

[telluride]

oh please oh please oh please

[Rigs11]

take him. we need a new coach.before you all jump all over my case, i'm not sure who would replace him. All i know is that his play calling is stale.we got beat by norv turner for christ sakes, twice!Hilarious!

[bpc]

Herm Edwards might be available.

[Ratboy]

I've been blaming Shanahan for a lot of things, but i rather keep him around. He needed a good QB and he finally got one, we just need the other pieces and he has to be willing to go get them.

[DivineLegion]

Trade Mike Shannahan for Atlantas first...The raiders did it...

[ScottXray]

Ya sure... it's a lateral move. Mike wouldn't gain anything from going to the Falcons. He's already got the power in Denver.

Mike Florio is a ****ing hack! Jesus people wake up to his schtick! He's a monkey with a keyboard (like many of us) he as an issue with Shanny and bangs on him when he can.

He makes up 50% of his stories and steals the other 50% from other media outlets.

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NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports the Falcons have been looking into the background of 49ers assistant head coach/linebackers Mike Singletary and could set up an interview with him shortly.


Adam Schefter, now theres a guy I trust! He's a class act and isn't a prick in person like Florio.


Shanny would LOVE to go to a team that HAD Dan Reeves as HC a few years back and take it to the super bowl...

theyl'l have that jailbird QB back in 16 months...MAX. He could turn vick into a respectable QB....who would then get busted for dope or something else.

Its the kind of Challenge he likes....show he still has IT.

Its WARM in Georgia! Play golf all year...without being indoors.:yayaya:

[JCMElway]

PFT is horrible. I think they're going to tell us that Shanny is looking to leave every year, and name 6 or 7 teams that he may go to. After about 7 or 8 years of this, they may finally be right. And then they'll say, "See? We TOLD you!"

Stupid hacks.

[go_broncos]

I will be happy to see shanny leave Denver.

We can hire Bill Cowher.

I am angry with shanny with the way he prepares the team in important games.
(against SF last year, against Bears, against OAK..)

I am even doubting the gender of our team(with the way we play games).

[DivineLegion]

I will be happy to see shanny leave Denver.

We can hire Bill Cowher.

I am angry with shanny with the way he prepares the team in important games.
(against SF last year, against Bears, against OAK..)

I am even doubting the gender of our team(with the way we play games).

Im pretty sure our roidrage punter lost the Chicago game for us...:peace:

[Vegas_Bronco]

The Falcons getting Shanny is as probable as you getting with cheeleader you drool over....just never gonna happen! Winners just don't hang with Losers.

[Northman]

Isnt Alex gibbs over there? I dont know, it might be something he would consider if the money was right.

[Northman]

take him. we need a new coach.before you all jump all over my case, i'm not sure who would replace him. All i know is that his play calling is stale.we got beat by norv turner for christ sakes, twice!Hilarious!


Yea, as if on field talent has nothing to do with it. Good grief, are people really this stupid? :rofl:

[alkemical]

Herm Edwards might be available.

evil, just evil

[-Slap-]

I wonder if Arthur Blank's next hard learned NFL lesson will come in the form of draft picks forfeited for tampering.

[-Slap-]

Dumbass Alex Spanos once hired Steve Ortmeyer away from the Raiders. At least he thought he did. Ortmeyer cashed Spanos checks, but remained loyal to Davis. This was culminated in the horrendously up the **** trade of perennial Pro Bowl OT Jim Lachey to the Raiders for John "Feet of" Clay and Napolean McCallum.

Thankfully, Davis pissed away the value gained in that crooked deal by sending Lachey to Washington straight across for Pig Face Jay Schroeder.

[wolf754life]

Yea, as if on field talent has nothing to do with it. Good grief, are people really this stupid?

great quote anubis, one question for you?

WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR AQUIRING TALENT FOR THE DENVER BRONCOS?

THE CEO, HEAD COACH, PRESIDENT, GENERAL MANAGER, WHO HAS TO APPROVE EVERY MOVE BEFORE IT IS MADE????

MIKE "I CANT EVALUATE TALENT" SHANADRAFTPICKBLOWERHAN

[Spider]

Yea, as if on field talent has nothing to do with it. Good grief, are people really this stupid?

great quote anubis, one question for you?

WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR AQUIRING TALENT FOR THE DENVER BRONCOS?

THE CEO, HEAD COACH, PRESIDENT, GENERAL MANAGER, WHO HAS TO APPROVE EVERY MOVE BEFORE IT IS MADE????

MIKE "I CANT EVALUATE TALENT" SHANADRAFTPICKBLOWERHAN

see this is what I am talking about .Why in the hell would the Falcons want Shanahan , when Wolf754life , who is unemployed in the NFL and has done alot more in the NFL then some has been coach that cant spot talent ...... After all if it wernt for the genius we know as Wolf754life T.Davis would have never been ...Right Wolf ?

[The MVPlaya]

I will be happy to see shanny leave Denver.

We can hire Bill Cowher.

I am angry with shanny with the way he prepares the team in important games.
(against SF last year, against Bears, against OAK..)

I am even doubting the gender of our team(with the way we play games).

And if we don't hire Bill Cowher?

Bill Cowher's offense would be a waste of Jay Cutler's talent.

[wolf754life]

lightning strikes, TD was once in a lifetime, give shanny credit, but THAT OFFENSIVE LINE, Shannon Sharpe, and #7 had alot to do with his success as well, great back, HOF in my opinion, but Spider you have to look at facts, last 10 yrs, where is your lightning? Greise, Plummer? Travis Henry, Darrell Gardner, Willie Middlebrooks, Deltha ONeal, Ashley Lelie, Dale Carter, Sam Adams, Simeon Rice, Paul Tovesi, Terry Pierce, Marcus Nash, George Foster, there is more Spider.........

THe point is he strikes out 5 times to every decent player he gets, if you drove truck that bad you would be out of a job, the guy is killing this franchise, open your eyes........

[Spider]

lightning strikes, TD was once in a lifetime, give shanny credit, but THAT OFFENSIVE LINE, Shannon Sharpe, and #7 had alot to do with his success as well, great back, HOF in my opinion, but Spider you have to look at facts, last 10 yrs, where is your lightning? Greise, Plummer? Travis Henry, Darrell Gardner, Willie Middlebrooks, Deltha ONeal, Ashley Lelie, Dale Carter, Sam Adams, Simeon Rice, Paul Tovesi, Terry Pierce, Marcus Nash, George Foster, there is more Spider.........

THe point is he strikes out 5 times to every decent player he gets, if you drove truck that bad you would be out of a job, the guy is killing this franchise, open your eyes........

well I am trying to get you a job ...... I am thinking I get you hired on to a NFL team you will shut the hell up ......

[Mountain Bronco]

What is all this Shanny hand picked Cutler crap? He didn't even interview him and picked the last remaining of the big 3 QB's of that class. If Leinert was available he would have screwed up and picked him. The only investigating he did was to call Jeff Fisher about Cutler. Fact!

He won't go to Atlanta though and is here to stay like it or not.

[Spider]

What is all this Shanny hand picked Cutler crap? He didn't even interview him and picked the last remaining of the big 3 QB's of that class. If Leinert was available he would have screwed up and picked him. The only investigating he did was to call Jeff Fisher about Cutler. Fact!

He won't go to Atlanta though and is here to stay like it or not.
who in the hell said anything about Cutler ?

[Ray Finkle]

see this is what I am talking about .Why in the hell would the Falcons want Shanahan , when Wolf754life , who is unemployed in the NFL and has done alot more in the NFL then some has been coach that cant spot talent ...... After all if it wernt for the genius we know as Wolf754life T.Davis would have never been ...Right Wolf ?

Viva la Spider!

[The MVPlaya]

lightning strikes, TD was once in a lifetime, give shanny credit, but THAT OFFENSIVE LINE, Shannon Sharpe, and #7 had alot to do with his success as well, great back, HOF in my opinion, but Spider you have to look at facts, last 10 yrs, where is your lightning? Greise, Plummer? Travis Henry, Darrell Gardner, Willie Middlebrooks, Deltha ONeal, Ashley Lelie, Dale Carter, Sam Adams, Simeon Rice, Paul Tovesi, Terry Pierce, Marcus Nash, George Foster, there is more Spider.........

THe point is he strikes out 5 times to every decent player he gets, if you drove truck that bad you would be out of a job, the guy is killing this franchise, open your eyes........

If you got to choose either a) shanahan leaves and cutler leaves or b) they both stay

Which would you pick?

It been 2 damn seasons since we were in the AFC championship, and you're talking about our franchise being RUINED?

I hope you look at some other franchises and tell me what's really "ruined."

How many seasons does it take other Franchises to even be THINKING about the playoffs? It's been 2 since we were 1 game away from the SB! We lost to the winning team too!

On TOP of that, we made it that far with JAKE PLUMMER. JAKE PLUMMER!!!

:rofl: @ you. I can't even take you serious because you're simply blinded by what the organization has brought us in the past.

It's like a rich kid looking at his dad, "what? you're selling your bugatti for a lambo? I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU! You're getting poor, why don't you just go live on the streets!"

I'd give everything we've done in the past however many years to end up with Jay Cutler now. Tell me the last QB to have his talent and potential. And remember that Shanahan is 100% responsible for his place in this organization by your logic.

[TDmvp]

Id love for all you Shanahan hater to get your wish and he leave then you all go thru a 12 year run like the Bengals winning no more then 4 games a year for 10 to 12 ... corse i dont want that to happen cuz im the Bronco fan .... BUT you all would cry like a 10 year old with a skinned knee if you actually knew what a bad stretch was ..

[The MVPlaya]

What is all this Shanny hand picked Cutler crap? He didn't even interview him and picked the last remaining of the big 3 QB's of that class. If Leinert was available he would have screwed up and picked him. The only investigating he did was to call Jeff Fisher about Cutler. Fact!

He won't go to Atlanta though and is here to stay like it or not.

Shanahan never interviews players he's about to draft dumbass! Hilarious!

And you know he was about to pick Leinert HOW?????

That's pretty dumb to say he would pick Leinert knowing that Leinert is not very effective out of the pocket.

[Spider]

I am waiting for the anti Shanny nerds to tell us that Rod Smith hip is all Shannys fault

[Smiling Assassin27]

I don't know. I've read that he likes it here, in part because of Jay Cutler's potential. He'd have a similar situation in Atlanta with Joey Harrington. :)

LOL

[Ray Finkle]

Shanahan never interviews players he's about to draft dumbass! Hilarious!

And you know he was about to pick Leinert HOW?????

That's pretty dumb to say he would pick Leinert knowing that Leinert is not very effective out of the pocket.

that and a few insiders here have stated that he had his eye on Cutler since his sophomore year and he was the target all along. They tried trading up to get him, not Leinert.

[Gcver2ver3]

It's like a rich kid looking at his dad, "what? you're selling your bugatti for a lambo? I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU! You're getting poor, why don't you just go live on the streets!"

...:rofl: ....LOL....that is hilarious...very nice

[Northman]

I am waiting for the anti Shanny nerds to tell us that Rod Smith hip is all Shannys fault

You mean he's not? Damn! Ha!

[elsid13]

I am waiting for the anti Shanny nerds to tell us that Rod Smith hip is all Shannys fault

Guess we're going to have to trade Champ to get a new hip for Rod

[summerdenver]

FWIW, on espn chat today Doug Kretz mentioned that there is a strong rumor in nfl that Falcons are pursuing Shanahan to be the GM/Coach. He did not say if there is any interest on Mike's side though.

You need to be an insider to access the chat.

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=18629

[Ray Finkle]

FWIW, on espn chat today Doug Kretz mentioned that there is a strong rumor in nfl that Falcons are pursuing Shanahan to be the GM/Coach. He did not say if there is any interest on Mike's side though.

You need to be an insider to access the chat.

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=18629

He's as bad as PFT....that is where he got it from.

[NFLBRONCO]

Shanny can't build this team how could he build Atlanta

[elsid13]

Ok I will summary for those that don't have the insider

First that he go and states when ask if Shanahan is still a great coach, that yes he is but, he lost some power in personnel (ELSID comment: HUH?), but he might be head to Atl with more power (ELSID what is he going to be part owner???)

Second someone ask him to explain what he means with the first comment:

Kretz: There is a strong rumor that Blank has been sniffing around Denver with the thought of bringing Shanny to Atlanta as GM/HC.. (ELSID isn't that tampering???)

Finally: Some one ask what Shanahan connection to Atl and why would he go there?

Kretz: it's just that some people think that a coach can go stale after a certain amount of time in the same place.. But the over riding factor would be the money (ELSID13 Shanny's contract requires him to be one of the top 5 paid coaches in the league, who much more money can they give him)

[Cito Pelon]

I haven't thought much of Shanny since he shelled out so much money for Dale Carter. I smelled a run of stupid coming on then. Not long after that he gives Griese - a third year player, maybe the slowest player I've ever seen at the QB position, and coming off some bad throwing shoulder injuries - a huge contract. Says he reminds him of Joe Montana. But he refuses to give Shannon Sharpe an FA contract. Says he can get the same production out of two TE's (Chamberlain and Desmond Clark) cheaper. Cuts both Byron and Clark, grooms Jeb Putzier as the TE of the future. The list goes on and on.

First day draft pick busts year after year - Toviessi, Middlebrooks, Eric Brown, Nash, Pierce, the Clemson boys, Chris Cole, the midget from Florida. I can add first day picks that never reached the potential their draft status would indicate - Foster, Kenoy Kennedy, Lelie, Ian Gold, Tatum Bell.

I get tired of hearing, "But he drafted/acquired Terrel Davis, Lepsis, Nalen, etc." Those are guys they had no idea if they'd work out or not. First day picks are the guys they were sure they had talent, so it really doesn't say much about talent-evaluation if the guys you thought would be blue-chippers are so-so at best, and the guys you figured were special-teamers turn out to be good.

I will say though that Shanny certainly has some credentials. I choose to give more weight to his stupid side because I think he's a jackass, loses his cool too easy when the team is behind. He certainly can get his O playing well for the first two quarters when he has the right personnel. And sometimes that's enough to win a lot of games when your ST's and D are also playing well. I think it's ridiculous for him to filter what the OC recommends before relaying it to the QB. It slows the O down and costs them TO's all too often when they're in a rhythm and have the D not knowing what the heck is coming next.

Overall, Shanny as HC has been above average in terms of winning seasons, but in terms of winning playoff games and AFC West Titles, he's equaled the worst stretches the team has had since 1977. So that doesn't say a whole lot for him.

I'd like to see a fresh young mind come in at OC and inject some new plays into the O, some new thinking. Maybe Shanny needs to reverse the roles - he recommends some plays now and then, and the OC calls the game he wants.

The bottom line is the way this team has been run since 1999 isn't building on the legacy built from 1977-1998, and that is a real shame on Bowlen and Shanahan.