Will the Broncos pick an O lineman in the draft?

[crazyhorse]

I am pretty sure the Chiefs will be picking an O lineman. If the Broncos pick O line, will the Maners be satisfied with the second or 3rd O lineman in the draft?

Or would you prefer something else? If so, what?

[azbroncfan]

I hope they pick OL.

[BroncoInferno]

For me, it depends on who is available at the pick. OT is certainly a high priority, but I don't want us to grab one just for the sake of it. If there is a more highly rated player available at a position of need (DL, LB), then that is the direction I'd prefer we go in.

[broncofan]

Whomever is the best available...OL, DL, or LB.

[SpringStein]

There may be a couple OTs picked by the time we select. So what? Drafting is an inexact science. Last time we moved up into this range we took the 3rd QB and I'm pretty happy with him.

This year may be the equivelent for OTs that the 83 draft was for QBs.

[2KBack]

They always do, the question is where

[oubronco]

i think they need tackles and guards holland is ok but they really need some beef that plays mean and mad

[summerdenver]

If we pick at 8-10 range, as i suspect, i would be disappointed if we pick up OL at that position unless its Jake Long. I think we deifinitely need to improve our OL and can still do it by not picking OL with 1st pick. I think we can get a decent OL who is comparable to 3rd/4th best OL from ( late 1st - 2nd round) range. Keep in mind most likely our OL pick will not help us next year. I would like us to trade down and pick OL there. If we can't trade down i think we should try to get the BP.

I really think (and hope) McFadden will fall down to our position. Even Mel Kiper mentioned in his chat today that he would not be surprised to see him fall a little as most of the teams at top do not need RB and teams are hesitant to trade up for a RB. I would like us to take him in that case. That will give us studs for the long term at every skill position on offense.

[Jetmeck]

They always do, the question is where


We need some studs so pick early instead of raiding the scrap heap.

[2KBack]

We need some studs so pick early instead of raiding the scrap heap.

Barring a super player falling to Denver that is too valuable to pass on, I could see this being the O-line draft in the mold of the Corner draft and D-line draft.

[cabronco]

Barring a super player falling to Denver that is too valuable to pass on, I could see this being the O-line draft in the mold of the Corner draft and D-line draft.

I agree and all for it. I think we need two OT's. Right now it seems Harris is a wild card for us and dont know what to expect from him. If Shanahan figures him in the mix next season, we may pursue one OT in the draft , so they can address LB / DT / or S too. But if they're not comfortable with Harris as a starter, I hope we pick up 2 tackles.

[elsid13]

If we pick at 8-10 range, as i suspect, i would be disappointed if we pick up OL at that position unless its Jake Long. I think we deifinitely need to improve our OL and can still do it by not picking OL with 1st pick. I think we can get a decent OL who is comparable to 3rd/4th best OL from ( late 1st - 2nd round) range. Keep in mind most likely our OL pick will not help us next year. I would like us to trade down and pick OL there. If we can't trade down i think we should try to get the BP.

I really think (and hope) McFadden will fall down to our position. Even Mel Kiper mentioned in his chat today that he would not be surprised to see him fall a little as most of the teams at top do not need RB and teams are hesitant to trade up for a RB. I would like us to take him in that case. That will give us studs for the long term at every skill position on offense.

Jake Long right now is a name that people know, doesn't mean that there aren't better OT in the draft once everything is said and done.

[Crushaholic]

I am pretty sure the Chiefs will be picking an O lineman. If the Broncos pick O line, will the Maners be satisfied with the second or 3rd O lineman in the draft?

Or would you prefer something else? If so, what?

How can you be so sure? The Chiefs also have several holes to fill. Logic would say that the Chiefs are picking an O-lineman, but logic is often shown the door on draft day...

[Broncojef]

The draft is so hit and miss I'm just hoping a for a stud MLB to build a defense around and a left tackle to protect Jay for years to come. Pushing the envelope would be asking for a Right Tackle and a hard hitting safety as well.

[OrangeShadow]

Crazy,im assuming you were refering to their first round pick. If so i certainly hope they do,they desperatley need to get more physical in the trenches.

[broncosteven]

I am pretty sure the Chiefs will be picking an O lineman. If the Broncos pick O line, will the Maners be satisfied with the second or 3rd O lineman in the draft?

Or would you prefer something else? If so, what?

I would take the top DT if KFC takes the top OL.

Right now the D can't stop anyone except the Chuggers 2nd team O.

At least Shanny can move the pocket with boot legs.

[FrontRowSeat1]

need a solid backup QB

[summerdenver]

Jake Long right now is a name that people know, doesn't mean that there aren't better OT in the draft once everything is said and done.
Thats true and we should be able to get a good one even around our 2nd pick. I would rather use our first pick on BPA.

[crazyhorse]

I would take the top DT if KFC takes the top OL.

Right now the D can't stop anyone except the Chuggers 2nd team O.

At least Shanny can move the pocket with boot legs.

After spending like 7 or 8 picks on 3 guys last year, you would belly up and pick another D lineman in the 1st round this year? That's risky.

[Orange_Beard]

When will the Bronco's pick a o-lineman?

1st or 2nd Day, I think it is pretty much given will take atleast 1.

[RMANCIL]

Unless a killer DT is on the board you guys should try and move back. This draft has a lot of talent at OL and LB which look like areas of need .

[SpringStein]

After spending like 7 or 8 picks on 3 guys last year, you would belly up and pick another D lineman in the 1st round this year? That's risky.

We took 3 DL last year - 2 of them were DE in the first 2 rounds. We don't have a true second DT and no depth. It's a definite possibilty. I'd expect a FA Dt and a draft pick.

[BroncoBuff]

Maybe O-Line, but WLB and DT are positions of greater need ... as will be S if Lynch retires. But the consensus around here is that DTs take time to develop, so maybe we'll spend some money in free agency for a DT.

[ward63]

OL and DT....Early and often!

[BroncoBuff]

OL and DT....Early and often!
Totally agree - If Lynch comes back.

Then we can sign a Will LB in free agency. Anybody have a list of free agent DTs and OLBs? And did the Giants re-sign Gibril Wilson, or is he a UFA this year?

[RMANCIL]

Totally agree - If Lynch comes back.

Then we can sign a Will LB in free agency. Anybody have a list of free agent DTs and OLBs? And did the Giants re-sign Gibril Wilson, or is he a UFA this year?

Unless your looking for a situational run plugger you won't find any DT in F.A. unless Detroit gives up on Rodgers. At some point you have to become concerned about the cap both short term and long.

I think the better choice is to draft and then resign your own guys vs the F.A. situation.

[sixtimeseight]

After spending like 7 or 8 picks on 3 guys last year, you would belly up and pick another D lineman in the 1st round this year? That's risky.

Wow, took you a whole 19 posts for you to start trolling in your own thread. Is that a new record?

[BroncoBuff]

Unless your looking for a situational run plugger you won't find any DT in F.A. unless Detroit gives up on Rodgers. At some point you have to become concerned about the cap both short term and long.

I think the better choice is to draft and then resign your own guys vs the F.A. situation.
Or maybe trade a 2nd round pick for a proven Pro-Bowler like Kris Jenkins?

And no, I'm not going to shut up about that. DT proved to be by far our weakest position, and that weakness spilled out like a waterfall to render us worthless against the run specifically, and on defense in general.

BTW - on this topic - I was 100% right about Amon Gordon way back in in the pre-season, and I've been proven mostly right about Kenny Peterson, too - he's a player. So mark my words: We trade for/sign Jenkins, we improve 25% or more vs. the run. ALL.THE.DIFFERENCE.IN.THE.WORLD.

[Broncojef]

Lynch is on the sidelines too often these days as is Gold. We need to stop counting on these guys if they can't play week-in and week-out and get some solid talent to at least perform every week. I realize Lynch has a Pro-Bowl name so flame away but he's only a bright spot because our LBs suck and he makes tackles when in the game.

[elsid13]

Unless your looking for a situational run plugger you won't find any DT in F.A. unless Detroit gives up on Rodgers. At some point you have to become concerned about the cap both short term and long.

I think the better choice is to draft and then resign your own guys vs the F.A. situation.

Dude, there are number of young defense men that are available in this FA class that will immediately help the interior of this line. Unlike a 3-4 it is easier to find quality DT to help, especially with the rotational scheme that Denver favors.

Plus Shanahan knows how to manage the cap isn't going to put this team in position not to be successful

[BroncoBuff]

Dude, there are number of young defense men that are available in this FA class that will immediately help the interior of this line. Unlike a 3-4 it is easier to find quality DT to help, especially with the rotational scheme that Denver favors.

Plus Shanahan knows how to manage the cap isn't going to put this team in position not to be successful
Good news ... but please, GO EASY on the new faces this year. In my opinion, lack of integration of all the new, young guys was our #1 downfall this year. A couple DTs, a Will, a punter and two O-Lineman is all we need - including from the draft (unless Lynch retires). Let these new guys gel.

[crazyhorse]

Good news ... but please, GO EASY on the new faces this year. In my opinion, lack of integration of all the new, young guys was our #1 downfall this year. A couple DTs, a Will, a punter and two O-Lineman is all we need - including from the draft (unless Lynch retires). Let these new guys gel.

Lynch is done whether he retires or not. IMO.

[RMANCIL]

Or maybe trade a 2nd round pick for a proven Pro-Bowler like Kris Jenkins?

And no, I'm not going to shut up about that. DT proved to be by far our weakest position, and that weakness spilled out like a waterfall to render us worthless against the run specifically, and on defense in general.

BTW - on this topic - I was 100% right about Amon Gordon way back in in the pre-season, and I've been proven mostly right about Kenny Peterson, too - he's a player. So mark my words: We trade for/sign Jenkins, we improve 25% or more vs. the run. ALL.THE.DIFFERENCE.IN.THE.WORLD.


How old is Jenkins? How much will he cost? I think that Denver has struggled the past few years like a lot of teams that over pay players from other teams and fail to draft well. As long as Denver can't stop the run they are not going to win the west.

[RMANCIL]

Dude, there are number of young defense men that are available in this FA class that will immediately help the interior of this line. Unlike a 3-4 it is easier to find quality DT to help, especially with the rotational scheme that Denver favors.

Plus Shanahan knows how to manage the cap isn't going to put this team in position not to be successful


Who do you have in mind?

[maher_tyler]

If hes gonna make an immediate impact or if hes the best player available...i think we draft best player available except for maybe WR or CB. If theres a RB that could make an imeadiate impact or whatever the case we take that guy!!

[elsid13]

Who do you have in mind?

In order
Long term solutions
1. Corey Williams Green Bay - BPC favorite player in DT FA class
2. Randy Starks- Tenn - young DT that shows power to push the middle
3. Isaac Sopoaga San Francisco - Big Plugger that would clog the middle

Short term contract

4. Brian Young New Orleans - older guy but has show some skills
5. Damione Lewis Carolina - same thing
6. Craig Terrill Seattle - young but been so-so

Also I always thought William Joseph has talent but taken him long to figure it out, and that he might need change of scenery

[maher_tyler]

The draft is so hit and miss I'm just hoping a for a stud MLB to build a defense around and a left tackle to protect Jay for years to come. Pushing the envelope would be asking for a Right Tackle and a hard hitting safety as well.

What will a ROOKIE MLB do that DJ hasn't?? He's come along pretty well if you ask me and will play that position for years to come..imagine what he could do with a good D line!! We will not draft a MLB...133 tackles, 103 solo, 1 sack, 2 FF, 1 Int.!!

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=5542

[yavoon]

Dude, there are number of young defense men that are available in this FA class that will immediately help the interior of this line. Unlike a 3-4 it is easier to find quality DT to help, especially with the rotational scheme that Denver favors.

Plus Shanahan knows how to manage the cap isn't going to put this team in position not to be successful

so finding avg to crappy retarded young dlinemen to stick in an 8 deep rotation is somehow a brilliant idea? yah I'm not gna jump on that bandwagon.

[yavoon]

If hes gonna make an immediate impact or if hes the best player available...i think we draft best player available except for maybe WR or CB. If theres a RB that could make an imeadiate impact or whatever the case we take that guy!!

bpa wins, especially in the first.

[OrangeShadow]

In order
Long term solutions
1. Corey Williams Green Bay - BPC favorite player in DT FA class
2. Randy Starks- Tenn - young DT that shows power to push the middle
3. Isaac Sopoaga San Francisco - Big Plugger that would clog the middle

Short term contract

4. Brian Young New Orleans - older guy but has show some skills
5. Damione Lewis Carolina - same thing
6. Craig Terrill Seattle - young but been so-so

Also I always thought William Joseph has talent but taken him long to figure it out, and that he might need change of scenery


els when it comes to starks how much of his success is due to people paying attention to haynesworth? (I havent watched much of tennessee this year)

[RMANCIL]

In order
Long term solutions
1. Corey Williams Green Bay - BPC favorite player in DT FA class
2. Randy Starks- Tenn - young DT that shows power to push the middle
3. Isaac Sopoaga San Francisco - Big Plugger that would clog the middle

Short term contract

4. Brian Young New Orleans - older guy but has show some skills
5. Damione Lewis Carolina - same thing
6. Craig Terrill Seattle - young but been so-so

Also I always thought William Joseph has talent but taken him long to figure it out, and that he might need change of scenery

Young is done , Starks is a kid who looked pretty good out of college makes you wonder why Tenn is letting him walk?

Sopoaga has done very little on a poor SF team. Lewis just lacks much effort.

Were did you get your list of F.A.?

[elsid13]

els when it comes to starks how much of his success is due to people paying attention to haynesworth? (I havent watched much of tennessee this year)

It hard to say, since we don't know exactly what the Titans coaches want him to do on any giving play. I would say that he has benfitted from having Haynesworth and Vanden Bosch playing next to him. I like him because he young only 24 years old has good size (6-3 312 LB By ESPN) and power.

ESPN Scouts states "He has a fine body for the position with a thick, strong lower body and a ripped powerful physique. Starks has good overall strength and can be quite powerful off the ball. He can press and shed well and is a sound, powerful tackler. When he maintains proper pad level, he is a real chore to handle due to his upfield power. His quickness is above average, as is his overall athleticism. He moves well in all directions and does a nice job on twists and stunts"

Problem is they also say that he "suspect stamina and wears down too easily. He needs to work harder on his conditioning in the offseason"

[elsid13]

Young is done , Starks is a kid who looked pretty good out of college makes you wonder why Tenn is letting him walk?

Sopoaga has done very little on a poor SF team. Lewis just lacks much effort.

Were did you get your list of F.A.?

Did you want to have football discussion or just criticize my answer to your question???

Young is older that why I put in short term solution,
Starks has the Haysworth resigning looming for the Tenn, and Tenn have a number of good young DT also on the roster.
Sopoaga plays as NT, what are you expecting for guy whose job is occupy linemen and let his Linebacker make plays. - There is a reason that Willis has been successful.

There is a list on the mane 2nd page

[RMANCIL]

Looks like this is Starks 4th season he should not be a F.A.

[theAPAOps5]

FA isn't going to fix things. A solid streak of good drafts is what fixes things. Forget FA build from the ground up even if it takes more than a few years.

Yeah that pisses of all the A.D.D. fans who want it now or not at all. But a team that is consistent will not fix itself with players that another team doesn't want to pay.

[RMANCIL]

I see that Starks is listed as a F.A. sure looks weird that Tenn is signing their picks to just 4 year contract. I think the Titans are in trouble if they let both starting DT walk.

[DBroncos4life]

I wish we would dump Engelberger and pick up Rucker this off season. They play about the same but Rucker can atleast provide more of a pass rush.

[dsmoot]

FA isn't going to fix things. A solid streak of good drafts is what fixes things. Forget FA build from the ground up even if it takes more than a few years.

Yeah that pisses of all the A.D.D. fans who want it now or not at all. But a team that is consistent will not fix itself with players that another team doesn't want to pay.


A good point. Free agency doesn't fix things it only allows a team to round out or complete the picture. It is an expensive and risky method as only Bronco fans know. We have had success such as Neil Smith and some others. However, you are usually taking someone who has been let go because of cost or questionable remaining skills. A big risk when you are trying to manage cap space and get value for your dollar. Our own failures in this area, along with the draft, have undermined our ability to keep a competitive team on the field. Yes, you can't rebuild in a year.

[Broncojef]

What will a ROOKIE MLB do that DJ hasn't?? He's come along pretty well if you ask me and will play that position for years to come..imagine what he could do with a good D line!! We will not draft a MLB...133 tackles, 103 solo, 1 sack, 2 FF, 1 Int.!!

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=5542

Once again Shanny is trying to stick a square peg in a round hole. DJ should be on the outside where he belongs and a true leader in the middle to take this group by the hair and give them some intensity. I personally love defenses where the guy in the middle is feared and people fall-in line behind him. Wilson had all the bark and no bite near the end but I'd almost rather have his heart and passion with no stick than to watch this defense continue as is. And I'm not saying the rookie will do it this year. Like it or not we are rebuilding and if so get the young stud that will lead for awhile to come this year and let him grow. This is the worst set of LB's this team has seen in awhile.

[Paladin]

Well, around 10, would Kenny Phillips be BPA?

I'd rather try and get the DT in FA if possible. I understand that is risky, but I think the LB and S positions require attention. Looking at the current roster, wouldn't the current DT and DE prospects improve because of experience? After the LB in the first, I'd go OT in the second. Don't have a third unless the Broncos trade down, but who would that be for?

To be honest, if McFadden were there at 10 when the Broncos pick, would that be equivalent to getting Cutler? Could he help as much as AP did Minnesota? Would a fellow with the talent level of LT be helpful to the Broncos?

Then the 2nd would be LB and the two fourths could be OTs, or trade them to get a better prospect at the end of 2 or early three....

And for spice. I think the mullets will draft a QB with their first.....