Broncos want revenge against Chargers

[dragondawg]

By FRANK SCHWAB
THE GAZETTE

ENGLEWOOD -- There is no remaining hope for a playoff spot, but the Denver Broncos’ memories are intact.

The last time the Broncos faced the Chargers, San Diego’s performance had Invesco Field at Mile High almost empty by the fourth quarter. The Chargers won 41-3 on Oct. 7, the worst home loss for the Broncos since 1966.

With few other team goals remaining, the Broncos can at least try to rally around getting some payback against the Chargers on Monday night.

“This is the NFL and some people think it’s above pride and issues like that, but it’s not,” safety John Lynch said. “That was humiliating and embarrassing.”

San Diego was 1-3 when it came to Denver on Oct. 7. The Broncos were 2-2 and had a chance to open a two-game lead against the defending AFC West champs.

That was a long time ago. The Chargers have already clinched the division title. The Broncos’ season has gone in the tank. They are 6-8 and were eliminated from the playoffs Sunday.

The Chargers’ blowout was a key to San Diego turning around its season.

“The game in Denver went our way and it got us going,” Chargers coach Norv Turner said.
Even though San Diego has the division wrapped up, Turner said he will play any healthy starters. The Chargers would probably like to get the third seed in the AFC, because that means it could delay a game at first-seed New England and avoid a first-round game against streaking Jacksonville.

The Broncos probably won’t be full strength. Tight end Daniel Graham (ankle) and linebacker Ian Gold (knee) didn’t practice for the third straight day. Gold is doubtful and Graham questionable on the injury report. They have the benefit of an extra day before the Monday game, and coach Mike Shanahan said he hoped they could participate in a short practice today.

“It gives them a little more recovery time, and we’ll see how they do tomorrow,” Shanahan said.

http://www.gazette.com/sports/chargers_31151___article.html/broncos_game.html

[Maximus]

The donks may want revenge but, what they'll get is an unforgiving asswhipping.

[penguintheory]

The only player quoted is the one who looks to be playing one of his last games, in his hometown.

[Broncojef]

May want revenge but what we need is a good offseason. This is just a bad squad.

[Crushaholic]

Stomp the Chargers! :strong:

GO BRONCOS!!!

[Paladin]

When will Max and RR come to realize that they are passe? They are as irrelevant as the mullet trolls.... I will put him on ignore.

[Paladin]

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Peace at last.....

[Spider]

what we will do in Sandiego should be against the law

[lex]

I dont want to hear about revenge. Its kind of ridiculous to mail it in like they did earlier in the year and talk about what youre going to do later. Id rather Denver worry more about showing up every week then get revenge when the season, for all intents and purposes, is over. "Revenge", yeah ok. Maybe if the beat San Diego, we should throw them a parade. LOL.

[Northman]

I dont want to hear about revenge. Its kind of ridiculous to mail it in like they did earlier in the year and talk about what youre going to do later. Id rather Denver worry more about showing up every week then get revenge when the season, for all intents and purposes, is over. "Revenge", yeah ok. Maybe if the beat San Diego, we should throw them a parade. LOL.


I agree. I would be happy with just not getting our ass kicked. At least make a game of it and if they can win great.

[Los Broncos]

I just hope we come out and play hard and not get killed by LT.

[400HZ]

Play hard and have fun. Rice Krispie squares for everyone after the game!

[Bronx33]

Play hard and have fun. Rice Krispie squares for everyone after the game!


Rice Krispie treats! the gift that keeps on givin, you sooooooo rock 400!

[broncolife]

Time to get our revenge and only lose by 20 points this time. I am really just hoping all our starters play good and make it a close one.

[Goobzilla]

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Peace at last.....

Welcome to the club! :thumbsup:

[phillybroncosnut]

The donks may want revenge but, what they'll get is an unforgiving asswhipping.


Gotta agree. The Chargers have our number for whatever reason. We sweep the Chiefs and KC plays SD very close. Yet, we get killed by SD. I'm not sure what KC does better then us against SD but, for whatever reason, we can't keep SD from scoring.
It's only been 3 games but SD has absolutely crushed us in those 3. I see no reason why that will change tomorrow. 44-17 SD

[Cito Pelon]

Sure would be nice to see Denver kick the living daylights out of the Chargers. It will be interesting to see who of the Broncos will show up to play.

[lex]

Gotta agree. The Chargers have our number for whatever reason. We sweep the Chiefs and KC plays SD very close. Yet, we get killed by SD. I'm not sure what KC does better then us against SD but, for whatever reason, we can't keep SD from scoring.
It's only been 3 games but SD has absolutely crushed us in those 3. I see no reason why that will change tomorrow. 44-17 SD

Because they have more talent. Thats what several years of drafting in the top 10 gets you.

[phillybroncosnut]

Because they have more talent. Thats what several years of drafting in the top 10 gets you.

I agree. That's not what I was trying to figure out though. My question is how do the Chiefs play SD so closely and we can't even stay in the stadium with the Chargers.

[lex]

I agree. That's not what I was trying to figure out though. My question is how do the Chiefs play SD so closely and we can't even stay in the stadium with the Chargers.

Two years ago we swept them when, in all likelihood, they had more talent than we did. In the last couple of years though weve been sort of transitioning to younger players, namely QB and DL and we havent matched up well vs SD. SD doesnt have the greatest WRs which would work in our favor if not for the fact that they have the best TE in the league...which makes our CBs kind of useless. Plus our OLine has been either getting old or is short on talent while SD has a pretty strong front 7 on defense.

[Cito Pelon]

Because they have more talent. Thats what several years of drafting in the top 10 gets you.

But, but . . . Denver has the Mastermind! What happened there? SD and Oakland have won the AFC West what, every year since 1998 except for one?

[lex]

But, but . . . Denver has the Mastermind! What happened there? SD and Oakland have won the AFC West what, every year since 1998 except for one?

It speaks to Shanahans acumen as a coach that Denver has won like it has in spite of poor draft spots and poor draft selections. When Denver won SBs a lot of the players on their offense werent drafted before the 6th round. The guy can do a lot with a little but the talent acquisition for a few years there has been a problem.

[Cito Pelon]

Two years ago we swept them when, in all likelihood, they had more talent than we did. In the last couple of years though weve been sort of transitioning to younger players, namely QB and DL and we havent matched up well vs SD. SD doesnt have the greatest WRs which would work in our favor if not for the fact that they have the best TE in the league. Plus our OLine has been either getting old or is short on talent while SD has a pretty strong front 7 on defense.

SD will probably win the AFC West next year also. Denver is way behind them in all three phases.

[Spider]

Play hard and have fun. Rice Krispie squares for everyone after the game!

Rice Krispies ? Beer and Braughts ...... some blood shed .... now that is an after game party .......

[Los Broncos]

Rice Krispies ? Beer and Braughts ...... some blood shed .... now that is an after game party .......

Hell yeah!

[400HZ]

But, but . . . Denver has the Mastermind! What happened there? SD and Oakland have won the AFC West what, every year since 1998 except for one?

The Queefs snuck one in, too.

[Maximus]

Gotta agree. The Chargers have our number for whatever reason. We sweep the Chiefs and KC plays SD very close. Yet, we get killed by SD. I'm not sure what KC does better then us against SD but, for whatever reason, we can't keep SD from scoring.
It's only been 3 games but SD has absolutely crushed us in those 3. I see no reason why that will change tomorrow. 44-17 SD

It all boils down to the matchups the differences are very subtle.
The donks matchup better against KC because of their ability to cover Gonzales and KC’s propensity to try and run outside. The donks lbs run well and their strength is not allowing RB’s to get outside. Gonzales is also easier to cover than gates. He’s not as fast or as physical as Gates. So when Gonzales is matched up against a LB or safety it’s not as big of a mismatch as trying to cover gates. So, KC plays right into denvers hands by design.

On the other hand SD runs inside more than people think. Tomlinson is murder between the tackles and he can break it outside. Running inside against the donks is the golden ticket. The other problem is Tomlinson is great at making the backside cut against LB’s that over pursue… the donk LB’s do this all the time. Couple that with an undersized DL and you have multiple problems without factoring in Gates. Gates is faster than Gonzales and is more physical. So, he can easily beat the donk LB’s and is too physical for your safeties.

The donks are forced to put 8 in the box against SD... this opens up a bigger mismatch against Gates. Put 7 in the box... Tomlinson kills ya... you need a Michael Huff to cover Gates... Speed and size with good cover skills!

[Paladin]

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Says it all right there......

[Spider]

It all boils down to the matchups the differences are very subtle.
The donks matchup better against KC because of their ability to cover Gonzales and KC’s propensity to try and run outside. The donks lbs run well and their strength is not allowing RB’s to get outside. Gonzales is also easier to cover than gates. He’s not as fast or as physical as Gates. So when Gonzales is matched up against a LB or safety it’s not as big of a mismatch as trying to cover gates. So, KC plays right into denvers hands by design.

On the other hand SD runs inside more than people think. Tomlinson is murder between the tackles and he can break it outside. Running inside against the donks is the golden ticket. The other problem is Tomlinson is great at making the backside cut against LB’s that over pursue… the donk LB’s do this all the time. Couple that with an undersized DL and you have multiple problems without factoring in Gates. Gates is faster than Gonzales and is more physical. So, he can easily beat the donk LB’s and is too physical for your safeties.

The donks are forced to put 8 in the box against SD... this opens up a bigger mismatch against Gates. Put 7 in the box... Tomlinson kills ya... you need a Michael Huff to cover Gates... Speed and size with good cover skills!

sounds well thought out , but what it all boils down to is beating the man in front of you ....just get back ot the basics , no sence in out scheming yourself ......

[elsid13]

Actually Max - the broncos have been very good on covering Gates, first because they had Big Nickle going with Brandon (lost for the year due to knee injury), then Champ when they play him man up. The only time they seem to struggle with Gates is when the go into soft zone coverage or when have Gold (to short) attempt to play him heads up.

Where Denver struggle that last two season is stopping LT on the edges -via the toss or by the screen.

[spdirty]

hopefully LT can get me 30 points and Marshall gets me about 15...then I am the Fantasy Football champ!!!!

Oh...and I hope we lose a close one. Its better for us to lose these next 2.

[Spider]

Actually Max - the broncos have been very good on covering Gates, first because they had Big Nickle going with Brandon (lost for the year due to knee injury), then Champ when they play him man up. The only time they seem to struggle with Gates is when the go into soft zone coverage or when have Gold (to short) attempt to play him heads up.

Where Denver struggle that last two season is stopping LT on the edges -via the toss or by the screen.

but .. but ....... but it is Gates for the love of pigskin , the most uncoverable T.E. to grace the hashmarks ;D
but in fairness to max I wish we had Al Wilson ...

[Garcia Bronco]

What are they going to do?

Get in the way back machine? Head way back to earlier this season whne we got embarassed by the Chargers...or are they going to go back to last season?

[Spider]

What are they going to do?

Get in the way back machine? Head way back to earlier this season whne we got embarassed by the Chargers...or are they going to go back to last season?
How about beating them in their crib tonight ? will that work or do we need to make it more complicated ?

[elsid13]

but .. but ....... but it is Gates for the love of pigskin , the most uncoverable T.E. to grace the hashmarks ;D
but in fairness to max I wish we had Al Wilson ...

Well if you had been nice this year, maybe Santa would have brought him to you. But since you were bad, you either get a lump of coal or Griese (and that female poster that won't be named) :pimp:

[Spider]

Well if you had been nice this year, maybe Santa would have brought him to you. But since you were bad, you either get a lump of coal or Griese (and that female poster that won't be named) :pimp:
look i said I was sorry for offering you as a payment for illegal aliens , I really didnt think you would mind ;D

[elsid13]

look i said I was sorry for offering you as a payment for illegal aliens , I really didnt think you would mind ;D

I do believe that Santa has removed the offer of lump of coal from the table.

[Spider]

I do believe that Santa has removed the offer of lump of coal from the table.

;D Santa is the ultimate trucker ......

[400HZ]

Actually Max - the broncos have been very good on covering Gates, first because they had Big Nickle going with Brandon (lost for the year due to knee injury), then Champ when they play him man up. The only time they seem to struggle with Gates is when the go into soft zone coverage or when have Gold (to short) attempt to play him heads up.

Where Denver struggle that last two season is stopping LT on the edges -via the toss or by the screen.

Have you been watching the same games as me?

[Spider]

Have you been watching the same games as me?

LOL I remember you , you are super charger fan , the one that claimed only your sister and her man trick were left at mile high ........... your word is golden

[400HZ]

LOL I remember you , you are super charger fan , the one that claimed only your sister and her man trick were left at mile high ........... your word is golden

And you're the scholastic phenom who can't figure out what hyperbole is. :flower:

[The Lone Bolt]

Because they have more talent. Thats what several years of drafting in the top 10 gets you.

Ummm. . . that has little or nothing to do with it.

Michael Turner: 5th round
Antonio Gates: Undrafted FA
Mike Scifres (Pro-Bowl punter): 5th round
Nick Hardwick (Pro-Bowl Center): 3rd round
Shaun Phillips: 4th round
Darren Sproles: 4th round
Kris Dielman: Undrafted FA
Eric Parker: Undrafted FA

We have a GM who picks talent in the low rounds and FA that other teams overlook, plus he uses the top picks wisely. That's why we are loaded.

[Garcia Bronco]

How about beating them in their crib tonight ? will that work or do we need to make it more complicated ?

LOL...the revenge boat has sailed.

[The Lone Bolt]

Two years ago we swept them when, in all likelihood, they had more talent than we did. In the last couple of years though weve been sort of transitioning to younger players, namely QB and DL and we havent matched up well vs SD. SD doesnt have the greatest WRs which would work in our favor if not for the fact that they have the best TE in the league...which makes our CBs kind of useless. Plus our OLine has been either getting old or is short on talent while SD has a pretty strong front 7 on defense.

Bronco defense, meet Chris Chambers . . . ;D

[Spider]

And you're the scholastic phenom who can't figure out what hyperbole is. :flower:

well you were given several chances to take it back ...... but you had your own foot too deep in your piehole to back out ..... Ha!

[Spider]

LOL...the revenge boat has sailed.

seaon isnt over yet ......

[Los Broncos]

I hope we pull out a win so all you draft whores suffer. Ha!

[400HZ]

well you were given several chances to take it back ...... but you had your own foot too deep in your piehole to back out ..... Ha!

Hyperbole
hy·per·bo·le /haɪˈpɜrbəli/ Pronunciation Key - [hahy-pur-buh-lee] Pronunciation Key –noun Rhetoric.
1. obvious and intentional exaggeration.
2. an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally, as “to wait an eternity.”


Does that help?

[Garcia Bronco]

Bronco defense, meet Chris Chambers . . . ;D

Chris Chambers...we've hit the field with him before.

[Spider]

Hyperbole
hy·per·bo·le /haɪˈpɜrbəli/ Pronunciation Key - [hahy-pur-buh-lee] Pronunciation Key –noun Rhetoric.
1. obvious and intentional exaggeration.
2. an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally, as “to wait an eternity.”


Does that help?A little late genius ....... you could have claimed that way back then , but you even tried to post pictures to prove your sister and her man trick were the only ones there ........ but nice try

[400HZ]

A little late genius ....... you could have claimed that way back then , but you even tried to post pictures to prove your sister and her man trick were the only ones there ........ but nice try

I posted a picture from ESPN of a Bronco fan sitting all by her lonesome with about 6 empty rows behind her. See, I overestimated your intelligence thinking that you could figure out an intentional and obvious exageration. That was my mistake. I was trying to addressing your denial of Invesco field emptying out so early in that game. And before I cause confusion and get you all worked up again, I don't mean literally 100% emptied out with not a soul in sight, I mean the majority of the fans had gone home.

[lazarus4444]

Gotta agree. The Chargers have our number for whatever reason. We sweep the Chiefs and KC plays SD very close. Yet, we get killed by SD. I'm not sure what KC does better then us against SD but, for whatever reason, we can't keep SD from scoring.
It's only been 3 games but SD has absolutely crushed us in those 3. I see no reason why that will change tomorrow. 44-17 SD


We can't keep anybody from scoring, lol.

[Spider]

I posted a picture from ESPN of a Bronco fan sitting all by her lonesome with about 6 empty rows behind her. See, I overestimated your intelligence thinking that you could figure out an intentional and obvious exageration. That was my mistake. I was trying to addressing your denial of Invesco field emptying out so early in that game. And before I cause confusion and get you all worked up again, I don't mean literally 100% emptied out with not a soul in sight, I mean the majority of the fans had gone home.

LOL you are such a bull****ter ....

[Spider]

. That was my mistake.

for some reason I picture your dad pointing at you and muttering these same words

[400HZ]

LOL you are such a bull****ter ....

By the way, it was my wife who went to the game at Denver, not my sister. I understand your mix up, though. I hear they are interchangable in Wyoming. :rofl:

[Spider]

By the way, it was my wife who went to the game at Denver, not my sister. I understand your mix up, though. I hear they are interchangable in Wyoming. :rofl:

see there you go again ...... In Wyoming it is sheep ..... but if you and your wife get a divorce will you still be brother and sister ?

[Spider]

Im wyoming if a ranchers daughter gets married at the age of 14 , he doesnt see it as a man stealing his daughter , he sees the marriage as getting free labor around the Ranch ........

[Bronco X]

By FRANK SCHWAB
THE GAZETTE

ENGLEWOOD -- There is no remaining hope for a playoff spot, but the Denver Broncos’ memories are intact.

The last time the Broncos faced the Chargers, Denver’s performance had Invesco Field at Mile High almost empty by the fourth quarter. The Chargers won 41-3 on Oct. 7, the worst home loss for the Broncos since 1966.

http://www.gazette.com/sports/chargers_31151___article.html/broncos_game.html

Fixed.

[broncolife]

Time to get our revenge and only lose by 20 points this time. I am really just hoping all our starters play good and make it a close one.

Man, I am good.